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« Reply #45 on: March 12, 2010, 01:29:40 PM » |
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Kuv thov qhuas tus xib fwb uas tsim cov ntawv Hmoob no. Cov ntawv Hmoob no yeej phim ua ntawv Hmoob kawg li. Nej puas tau tsim muaj "fonts" los siv rau computer?? Kuj thov hais qhia paub thiab.
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« Reply #46 on: March 15, 2010, 08:02:15 PM » |
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[/If you wanna meet the person who put it together you're gonna have to invent a time machine and go back some 5000 years because when asking who "tsim cov ntawv Hmoob no" the answer is "Hmoob Pog Koob Yawg Koob"]
I wish this statement is true, however I believe this person who invented this Hmong writing system may still live and well today. This writing system was possibly invented in the 80's in the refugee camp. It is similar way of writing comparing to the Chinese, Japanese or Koren systems. Compare to Phaj Hauj system this one is more logical, and again I admire it.
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« Reply #47 on: April 16, 2010, 09:48:53 AM » |
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Heard this some many times in the past but never pay close attention to this kawm ntaub kawm ntawv..it is very interesting
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« Reply #48 on: April 16, 2010, 10:03:14 AM » |
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I've actually been trying to create a font for this, but I never really have the time to get to it. I'll post a pdf where it cross references it to the RPA style if I ever get around to it.
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« Reply #49 on: September 28, 2010, 11:29:42 PM » |
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HI everyone im new here. reason im here cuz i want to understand more about these writing. I saw these symbols on youtube so i decide to look at it, it was very interesting. First time I view the video I was like how the hell can we read these...dan second time I decide to focus on what it means and for the symbols stands for. After knowing what the first symbols stand for every other letters was easy to read so i decide to translate them into the RPA. Some Im still confuse about. There are two symbols that have the same sound, ex: theres two symbols that have "NT" and "NCH" and they also spell DHIA HLUA as DIA HLUA and HNYUV NPUA as NYUV NPUA and theres not "HML" symbol. If anipne out there how to read and write and these plz..PM what i miss on my translation below and i also want to ask some question too. TY. http://s80.photobucket.com/albums/j165/4heavens/?action=view¤t=HmongWritingSounds-1.jpg |
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« Reply #50 on: November 14, 2010, 01:48:39 PM » |
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amazing. thanks for posting this.
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« Reply #51 on: November 14, 2010, 03:12:54 PM » |
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Makes me feel almost like an ophan, as if our ancestors knew the fall of our kingdom was inevitable so they engraved the symbols onto that piece of the crossbow with hopes that one day one of their own will dig it up or come across it. So sad.
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« Reply #52 on: December 02, 2010, 05:12:12 PM » |
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Did different clans have different writing? that might explain the multiples.
Over time as writings were re-discovered by other clans, they could have crossed clans, creating more accepted writings.
Especially since Hmong wasn't really officially written until what? around 1950? maybe a little before.
I'm not going to even try to work with the earlier stuff, until I can read/write and speak reasonably fluent.
The history of the Hmong is not sad because of how they lived, it's sad because of how every place they moved to, they were persecuted and driven out. So often no one knows where they originally came from. If you stay united as a community, the knowledge and history of thousands will put together everything. Unite and share knowledge, and I am confident it will come together.
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« Reply #53 on: December 09, 2010, 02:21:12 AM » |
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Did different clans have different writing? that might explain the multiples.
Over time as writings were re-discovered by other clans, they could have crossed clans, creating more accepted writings.
Especially since Hmong wasn't really officially written until what? around 1950? maybe a little before.
I'm not going to even try to work with the earlier stuff, until I can read/write and speak reasonably fluent.
The history of the Hmong is not sad because of how they lived, it's sad because of how every place they moved to, they were persecuted and driven out. So often no one knows where they originally came from. If you stay united as a community, the knowledge and history of thousands will put together everything. Unite and share knowledge, and I am confident it will come together.
Are you trying to educate a Hmong on his/her own history? The Hmong language wasn't written in your white latin alphabet until the 1950s but that doesn't mean it wasn't "officially" written until the 1950s. Does it have to be white to be official? Word of advice, do not try and tell an ethnic group who they are or where they came from, instead, let them tell you. Too long has the white man thought he was the master of the universe, yet every little action in North Korea scares him to death. Memories of Vietnam prove that a primitive nation can stop a powerful one. Just imagine if the white man went to war with China. Game over. |
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« Reply #54 on: December 12, 2010, 01:23:51 AM » |
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This is beautiful.
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« Reply #55 on: February 06, 2011, 03:09:22 PM » |
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I knew that pa dao is part of our writing but damn why do we have to go through pa dao and sew it up.. that take too long...how boring..  thats why in this generation we dont use pa dao as our writing anymore but we use american alphabet to write now.. theres a story about this will tell you why..go google it up.. |
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« Reply #56 on: February 06, 2011, 03:38:11 PM » |
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I knew that pa dao is part of our writing but damn why do we have to go through pa dao and sew it up.. that take too long...how boring.. thats why in this generation we dont use pa dao as our writing anymore but we use american alphabet to write now.. theres a story about this will tell you why..go google it up.. Just because it's on the internet doesn't mean it's real. |
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« Reply #57 on: February 06, 2011, 07:38:43 PM » |
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Just because it's on the internet doesn't mean it's real.
I heard it from the ogs...not just internet... and i think it's real in a way.. |
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« Reply #58 on: February 06, 2011, 09:56:21 PM » |
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I heard it from the ogs...not just internet... and i think it's real in a way..
So what's the story? What exactly am I supposed to Google? Why the Hmong don't use the Paj Ntaub Langauge anymore? |
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« Reply #59 on: February 09, 2011, 12:09:21 AM » |
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So what's the story? What exactly am I supposed to Google? Why the Hmong don't use the Paj Ntaub Langauge anymore?
I dont know i forgot, you can try that. LOL! |
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