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Title: I have one so I know how dangerous it can be especially with a young toddler too
Post by: theking on June 12, 2018, 12:26:16 AM
 :'(:

Olympian Bode Miller's 19-Month-Old Daughter Dies After Drowning in Pool: 'We Are Beyond Devastated'


millerbode: We are beyond devastated. Our baby girl, Emmy, passed away yesterday. Never in a million years did we think we would experience a pain like this. Her love, her light, her spirit will never be forgotten. Our little girl loved life and lived it to it’s fullest everyday. Our family respectfully requests privacy during this painful time.

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Title: Re: I have one so I know how dangerous it can be especially with a young toddler too
Post by: dogmai on June 12, 2018, 02:45:10 AM
The pool didn't killed her, the water did.
Title: Re: I have one so I know how dangerous it can be especially with a young toddler too
Post by: DuMa on June 12, 2018, 03:58:18 AM
This is the reason why I will not get one. 

It is like having zaj sitting in your backyard and waiting till that day.  I used to live in an apartment on 5th Street San Jose downtown for college and when I was there, the pool was cement blocked for a reason.  An old building and countless of history with it and death by accident drowning is among one.  Is zaj real?  Lets just say that I hopped over my balcony on the first floor like I'm diving bear feet into that swimming pool that one morning.  Only the first floor up and felt like forever free falling down.  I sprung my legs and ankles by using physic to absorbed the impact but my poor legs were almost broken.  My azz landed on the floor and great to have nice buns as air bags.  I couldn't feel my legs and I pissed in my pants. 

I still love the pool party but if needed to, I can always go to my friend's house to use his but never have one in mine.  I'm not taking any risk plus the constant cleaning job which is time consuming plus expensive supplies to keep maintenance. 

When your child is hurt, the parents will get the blame for it.  All for what you know? 
Title: Re: I have one so I know how dangerous it can be especially with a young toddler too
Post by: dogmai on June 12, 2018, 04:10:00 AM
This is the reason why I will not get one. 

It is like having zaj sitting in your backyard and waiting till that day.  I used to live in an apartment on 5th Street San Jose downtown for college and when I was there, the pool was cement blocked for a reason.  An old building and countless of history with it and death by accident drowning is among one.  Is zaj real?  Lets just say that I hopped over my balcony on the first floor like I'm diving bear feet into that swimming pool that one morning.  Only the first floor up and felt like forever free falling down.  I sprung my legs and ankles by using physic to absorbed the impact but my poor legs were almost broken.  My azz landed on the floor and great to have nice buns as air bags.  I couldn't feel my legs and I pissed in my pants. 

I still love the pool party but if needed to, I can always go to my friend's house to use his but never have one in mine.  I'm not taking any risk plus the constant cleaning job which is time consuming plus expensive supplies to keep maintenance. 

When your child is hurt, the parents will get the blame for it.  All for what you know?

True. Even if the child did what you did, the parents will get blame for not watching and/or stopping the child from doing it.
Title: Re: I have one so I know how dangerous it can be especially with a young toddler too
Post by: DuMa on June 12, 2018, 04:35:05 AM
So you child proof your pool by putting up fences.  Good for how long?

When your child is old enough, he can climb over.  The fence gets an upgrade.

When your child is an adult, he too may die. 

My grandma was a fisherman and dives for a living but one night, she went to the porty house which is at the end of a small bridge.  She accidentally fell in and possibly having a cramp and died drowning. 

This is my Omen and I have near drowning cases myself, all started with stories about me Rolling in the waves as a toddler in Malaysia refugee camp.  Got saved by a stranger.  Another time me thinking that if I jump in 4 feet of a swimming pool water, I can just give swim my azz to the steps.  Didn't make it but by the grace of willing to live, I found the steps but drank a gallon of water in the process.  2 of my childhood friends died in a canoe accident back in the Narleans days.  A bunch of us kids skip school and stole/borrowed a neighbors canoe for a joy ride.  One guy got cute in trying to catch a wild duck and the canoe flipped over.  One guy got to shore first and uses a branch to save the second.  One guy said he only knows how to dog paddle and already gave up and saw himself sinking slowly but once again, before death, you get that last urge of energy as your last hoorah.  He doggy paddled again to the surface when his friend caught him with the branch. 

Two guy cousins died.  One guy was a good swimmer that came back for his cousin.  Couldn't make it when the other guy hugged him to death. 

I had nightmares for months. 

And yet, I fished all of my life but I'm cautious about the water from here on out.  Took a swimming class in college but wrong class as they only teaches how to be cute in the water.  We did backstroke, butterfly, freestyle and I did 100 meter worth and yet, I still claim my azz as a non swimmer.  I learned all that without them teaching me how to thread water first.  How the figure?

I hate drowning cases.  My phobia, my nightmare. 
Title: Re: I have one so I know how dangerous it can be especially with a young toddler too
Post by: Mr_Mechanic on June 12, 2018, 06:18:42 AM
My thought.

Sad news for sure.  But I must ask, who was watching her?  Look, wife and I have three kids.  Oldest one, 17 and youngest one, 5.  Every time my kids step into a pool or any body of water.  My eyes are on them and a few steps away.
I don’t care who you are but damn it, Watch your kids!!!  I understand that we can't always be with our kids.  In the case that you're not, find a responsible care taker of your kid/s.
Title: Re: I have one so I know how dangerous it can be especially with a young toddler too
Post by: theking on June 12, 2018, 09:55:42 AM
So you child proof your pool by putting up fences.  Good for how long?

When your child is old enough, he can climb over.  The fence gets an upgrade.

When your child is an adult, he too may die. 

Which is why we taught our daughter how to do this when she was around 6 months old. Some people are against it because they think at 6 months, babies are too young to learn to do things like that but we rather take as many preventive measures as possible just in case:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v_jrCTL1-jA#ws]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v_jrCTL1-jA#ws (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v_jrCTL1-jA#ws)

]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v_jrCTL1-jA#ws] (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v_jrCTL1-jA#ws)
Title: Re: I have one so I know how dangerous it can be especially with a young toddler too
Post by: theking on June 12, 2018, 09:57:26 AM

I don’t care who you are but damn it, Watch your kids!!!

That would be the number 1 preventive measure IMO.

Title: Re: I have one so I know how dangerous it can be especially with a young toddler too
Post by: theking on June 12, 2018, 10:02:01 AM
Reminds me of the 3 Hmong kids in Fresno that found their way into a neighbor's pool and drowned a few years ago.

I heard the grandma kind of got blamed for not watching them or something?

In reality, as parents, they are your kids, you are solely responsible for watching them, not grandma or the neighbor generally speaking...
Title: Re: I have one so I know how dangerous it can be especially with a young toddler too
Post by: DuMa on June 12, 2018, 10:50:29 AM
Lmao

Dude

You in California
You guys are in a drought
Shouldn’t even be filling your pool

/end

Learn what fake news from real news.

They tell you drought so you can conserve the water.  They tell you so you must listen. 

I rather listen to those that knows like higher ups. 

Guess who got fine the most for wasting water in the so called drought?  A high ranking official.  Why did he not care about wasting water?

Cuz he knows that there is no danger in the water supply.  Some political official down in southern California wants the aquaduct to stretch more from North to southern California cuz he be banking on the water business.  He's buying nor Cal water for peanuts and jacking up the price to be sold in sol cal. 

Look it up to verify my source.  Dig deeper behind the meaning if you may.  Do not listen to any first pencil that you see.  The truth is beyond our grasp and it is just right there. 

If you want to fancy yourself, trump just talked to council man Kim this morning.  What is the underlying truth behind this?  Why not call the guy rocketman or king or dictator Kim?  He called him chairman Kim for a reason.  There are other chit about this summit talks but I'm working on it. 

No fake news but if there are, we can re educate you again no worries.
Title: Re: I have one so I know how dangerous it can be especially with a young toddler too
Post by: hmgROCK on June 12, 2018, 11:26:09 AM
you know it's a drought
when you are happy because it finally rain
Title: Re: I have one so I know how dangerous it can be especially with a young toddler too
Post by: Yebleng on June 12, 2018, 11:33:10 AM
Water is scary. We went swimming over the weekend and my oldest and his cousins were out in the deep. Sure, there was a saftey line that they were hanging on to but yet being that far out and knowing how fast an accident can happen I had to yell for them to come back closer. So no matter how safe you think you are or your gaurds, never underestimate the dangerous of water.
Title: Re: I have one so I know how dangerous it can be especially with a young toddler too
Post by: DuMa on June 12, 2018, 12:24:45 PM

lol

the grass is sooooo brown
it crunch as you walk on top of it


sure, someone drain this whole river to get a photo op
c'mon man

too many fox news


(https://fortunedotcom.files.wordpress.com/2014/08/folsom-lake-cagov.jpg)

So your fake news say Cali in a drought and you believe?

In the words of the hangover movie... ,,"Did you die"

Show me pix of the reserve water supply of California or do you not have access?

Don't be a gullible droid.
Title: Re: I have one so I know how dangerous it can be especially with a young toddler too
Post by: DuMa on June 12, 2018, 01:12:56 PM
lol

sooo
those brown grass that i step on
didn't make those crunch noise



i know yall like to google
so i will just let you google and find out

please no alex jone or fox news info


Fake news got you to believe so of course you stop watering your grass. 

I never missed a shower day since the so called drought.  Where did I get the water from if there is no water?
Title: Re: I have one so I know how dangerous it can be especially with a young toddler too
Post by: SummerBerry on June 12, 2018, 01:30:43 PM
My thought.

Sad news for sure.  But I must ask, who was watching her?  Look, wife and I have three kids.  Oldest one, 17 and youngest one, 5.  Every time my kids step into a pool or any body of water.  My eyes are on them and a few steps away.
I don’t care who you are but damn it, Watch your kids!!!  I understand that we can't always be with our kids.  In the case that you're not, find a responsible care taker of your kid/s.

I take my kids to the pool, lake, etc. Im always yelling at them if they do something I don't like, etc. I don't swim or get in the water with them. I just supervised them frim start until end when we leave.

I take my kids with me hiking. I have to remind them no chasing, running, etc. Some trails are narrow, steep, etc. but safety come 1st.

I may not get to enjoyed anything much because I have to keep my eyes on them regardless of the place/location. What matters at the end is that we got to spent the day together.
Title: Re: I have one so I know how dangerous it can be especially with a young toddler too
Post by: DuMa on June 12, 2018, 01:46:14 PM
There are bans on emptying and refilling swimming pools in at least two communities in the San Francisco Bay area.
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/ncna333111 (https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/ncna333111)

Why only 2 n a few communities and not all?

"Coalinga still limits the emptying of swimming pools to once every 12 months, although most swimming pools have the same water for up to seven years."

Here, you see not a ban on swimming pool.  Only restrictions. 

Ta da



Title: Re: I have one so I know how dangerous it can be especially with a young toddler too
Post by: DuMa on June 13, 2018, 07:31:39 AM
Once again.  If it is a drought, where in the drought world did they get the water to water their lawn.

Like I said, I did not miss a day of shower in the so called drought. 
Title: Re: I have one so I know how dangerous it can be especially with a young toddler too
Post by: DuMa on June 13, 2018, 07:40:25 AM
The satellite data he cited, which measure a wide variety of water resources, show "we are way worse off this year than last year," he said. "But we're not going to run out of water in 2016," because decades worth of groundwater remain.
http://www.latimes.com/local/california/la-me-0320-drought-explainer-20150320-story.html (http://www.latimes.com/local/california/la-me-0320-drought-explainer-20150320-story.html)

Underground water remains so shower up and fill your swimming pool. 

Title: Re: I have one so I know how dangerous it can be especially with a young toddler too
Post by: hmgROCK on June 13, 2018, 07:48:13 AM
Once again.  If it is a drought, where in the drought world did they get the water to water their lawn.

Like I said, I did not miss a day of shower in the so called drought.

duma
that's not how it work
it is a really dumb logical agruement
i turn on the water and it comes on
there's no drought

lol

the water is probably being pump from a water reservoir miles away or underground
because your local one is probably almost dry up

 instead try this

"you know its a drought, when you get happy because it finally rain"
Title: Re: I have one so I know how dangerous it can be especially with a young toddler too
Post by: DuMa on June 13, 2018, 09:10:40 AM
duma
that's not how it work
it is a really dumb logical agruement
i turn on the water and it comes on
there's no drought

lol

the water is probably being pump from a water reservoir miles away or underground
because your local one is probably almost dry up

 instead try this

"you know its a drought, when you get happy because it finally rain"

A dumb argument is allowing the media to fake you into thinking what they want you to think.

A good argument is asking good questions that you can not answer.  Someone out there knows that there is no real danger with the drought. 

Do we have less water? Yes
Are we in any danger? Nope

Let's just throw out that drought word so you can conserve while I continue to take daily shower or fill up my swimming pool is what on trial here. 

Don't be a droid.  The media fawks up your mind too. 
Title: Re: I have one so I know how dangerous it can be especially with a young toddler too
Post by: DuMa on June 13, 2018, 09:16:56 AM
Most of California is out of the drought
http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-drought-gone-20170223-story.html (http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-drought-gone-20170223-story.html)
Title: Re: I have one so I know how dangerous it can be especially with a young toddler too
Post by: Mr_Mechanic on June 13, 2018, 09:18:22 AM
how do we go from toddler drowning to drought?