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Relationship => The Single & Dating Scenes => Topic started by: Reporter on September 09, 2022, 12:41:21 PM
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Whatever that means...
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gonna lose your date since you've no clue ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
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That means tell more stories to keep them hook or else they get bored. ;D
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It means get her drunk fast ;D
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You gotta throw in some allowance on top of that too.
Here’s why: If you only offer experience to women by taking them out on dates then you’re no different than every other guy. Even a good bf should already do that by default.
This is why most men take a woman to dinner and expect sex at the of the night, she rejects him because there was no allowance, there was only experience to a dinner date. Women want more than that!
This is why sex isn’t guarantee in normal dating. Sex is guarantee for me because we are upfront.
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Ok.
You gotta throw in some allowance on top of that too.
Here’s why: If you only offer experience to women by taking them out on dates then you’re no different than every other guy. Even a good bf should already do that by default.
This is why most men take a woman to dinner and expect sex at the of the night, she rejects him because there was no allowance, there was only experience to a dinner date. Women want more than that!
This is why sex isn’t guarantee in normal dating. Sex is guarantee for me because we are upfront.
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You are a pro, Gracified23.
You gotta throw in some allowance on top of that too.
Here’s why: If you only offer experience to women by taking them out on dates then you’re no different than every other guy. Even a good bf should already do that by default.
This is why most men take a woman to dinner and expect sex at the of the night, she rejects him because there was no allowance, there was only experience to a dinner date. Women want more than that!
This is why sex isn’t guarantee in normal dating. Sex is guarantee for me because we are upfront.
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So now G is paying for sex? Isn't that basically hiring an escort service or paying a prostitute?
I am so confused.
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So now G is paying for sex? Isn't that basically hiring an escort service or paying a prostitute?
I am so confused.
A sugar relationship is not anything like hiring an escort or paying a prostitute, and is closer to a real relationship.
It’s not morally wrong to financially help someone you date. It’s morally wrong to pay for a prostitute you meet at a hotel.
With sugar, we both set our expectations upfront. We both know what we’re getting out of the relationship. We both have agree. So there’s no guessing like in a normal dating where the guy take the girl out to dinner and expect sex at the end of the night. The sex may not guarantee for him because that wasn’t expected. It’s how the toned it set from the beginning. Sugar dating is just defining this upfront. The man wants sex, the girl wants to be financially supported.
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You are a pro, Gracified23.
Yup, I am. Even in a normal dating situation most men still gonna expect sex at the end of the date. From men perspective, it’s always about sex. From women perspective it’s your resources.
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Yup, I am. Even in a normal dating situation most men still gonna expect sex at the end of the date. From men perspective, it’s always about sex. From women perspective it’s your resources.
You don't think women want sex above all else as well? I've given resources to women while avoiding sex and they never see me again. I think if I had offered sex in place of resources or if both, they might still be around?
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You don't think women want sex above all else as well? I've given resources to women while avoiding sex and they never see me again. I think if I had offered sex in place of resources or if both, they might still be around?
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Ne ned...
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You don't think women want sex above all else as well? I've given resources to women while avoiding sex and they never see me again. I think if I had offered sex in place of resources or if both, they might still be around?
You was leading with your wallet. Lol.
You have to lay out expectations on both ends and do not assume that she will put out.
Some women never intended to be intimate with you. But if you offer them resources they’re going to take it.
They may want sex too, but it may take a bit of time for them to warm up and feel the vibe.
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You was leading with your wallet. Lol.
You have to lay out expectations on both ends and do not assume that she will put out.
Some women never intended to be intimate with you. But if you offer them resources they’re going to take it.
They may want sex too, but it may take a bit of time for them to warm up and feel the vibe.
I see. I should do mutual exchanges to be fair then. Get them to agree to an exchange.
I still think we can't assume that only men are interested in sex.
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I see. I should do mutual exchanges to be fair then. Get them to agree to an exchange.
I still think we can't assume that only men are interested in sex.
See here’s the thing. Hmong girls are conservative so sex is highly unlikely to happen. Asian girls has the anti-slut mechanism. They get butt hurt easy and they don’t understand sarcasm. Everything you say they took it as an insult. That’s based on my experience. I’m not saying all Asian girls are like that, but I think sex can only happen to certain girls.
But if we’re talking Meka dawb it’s waay harder to get sex as an Asian guy. Sometime if a woman is attracted to you sex can happen on the first date, but you have to know how the game works in order to lead the interaction to get sex. Even if the girl is attracted to you, if you don’t know what to say to get her wet and talk about stupid irrelevant stuff that doesn’t lead you toward the sex the girl will get bored and leave.
When it comes to online texting, I can get girls to open on the first message easy. You have to set the frame sexually right from the start if you’re looking to hookup. You have to know how to open, how to qualify her, then how to number closed. I usually move the conversation on the app to phone. There’s a method I personally follow that works for me. Even sugar dating is still tough for me. I still have to put in the effort and make them interested to get the date. Getting the match is the hardest.
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See here’s the thing. Hmong girls are conservative so sex is highly unlikely to happen. Asian girls has the anti-slut mechanism. They get butt hurt easy and they don’t understand sarcasm. Everything you say they took it as an insult. That’s based on my experience. I’m not saying all Asian girls are like that, but I think sex can only happen to certain girls.
But if we’re talking Meka dawb it’s waay harder to get sex as an Asian guy. Sometime if a woman is attracted to you sex can happen on the first date, but you have to know how the game works in order to lead the interaction to get sex. Even if the girl is attracted to you, if you don’t know what to say to get her wet and talk about stupid irrelevant stuff that doesn’t lead you toward the sex the girl will get bored and leave.
When it comes to online texting, I can get girls to open on the first message easy. You have to set the frame sexually right from the start if you’re looking to hookup. You have to know how to open, how to qualify her, then how to number closed. I usually move the conversation on the app to phone. There’s a method I personally follow that works for me. Even sugar dating is still tough for me. I still have to put in the effort and make them interested to get the date. Getting the match is the hardest.
Looks like a lot of work involved.
I guess if someone is just interested in sex, one might go that extent.
Ok. So, you have trained to do what a man needs to do.
I keep thinking, the chicks need the sex and love, too. They had better know how to hook us or we'd just move to other girls.
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Looks like a lot of work involved.
I guess if someone is just interested in sex, one might go that extent.
Ok. So, you have trained to do what a man needs to do.
I keep thinking, the chicks need the sex and love, too. They had better know how to hook us or we'd just move to other girls.
I’ve had 2 meets but didn’t work out. It took me 3 months to find my first SB.
I don’t like an arrangement that’s surrounded by sex only. If I wanted only sex I would see an escort.
I enjoy spending time together inside and outside of the bedroom where we have a real relationship and doing normal activities. Sometimes if we decided not to go out, we just stay indoor and dine in watching Netflix. We don’t have sex every time and she still gets her allowance. We are in it for 3 years so we already build enough trust. I won’t do that if I’m just starting out.
The love part is true, I agree. My SB gives me attention and sends me text every other day. I also give her affection. Doesn’t mean she no longer has bills lol.
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I don’t like an arrangement that’s surrounded by sex only. If I wanted only sex I would see an escort.
I enjoy spending time together inside and outside of the bedroom where we have a real relationship and doing normal activities.
If the "allowance" is right, an "escort" can spend time with you inside and outside of the bedroom too...
Money talks when it comes to most escorts' time just like sugar babies...Some buyers don't even want "sex" at all, they paid those girls just for their time.
I know a guy that paid an escort to be his fake girlfriend at a wedding just to impress others. Once the wedding is over, they went their separate ways, no sex involved, just time..
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If the "allowance" is right, an "escort" can spend time with you inside and outside of the bedroom too...
Money talks when it comes to most escorts' time just like sugar babies...Some buyers don't even want "sex" at all, they paid those girls just for their time.
I know a guy that paid an escort to be his fake girlfriend at a wedding just to impress others. Once the wedding is over, they went their separate ways, no sex involved, just time..
Yes you can take some escorts out on dates. But she does that has her job. You are just paying for her service.
A sugar baby is someone that receive financial support from someone she is dating. My SB texts me good morning and misses me. She also cooks for me. An escort doesn’t do any of that.
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My SB texts me good morning and misses me. She also cooks for me. An escort doesn’t do any of that.
Like sugar babies, if escorts are paid enough, I bet they'll have no problems doing those things either as money talks when it comes to many of those in the escorts and sugar baby segments and their services.
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Cool.
I’ve had 2 meets but didn’t work out. It took me 3 months to find my first SB.
I don’t like an arrangement that’s surrounded by sex only. If I wanted only sex I would see an escort.
I enjoy spending time together inside and outside of the bedroom where we have a real relationship and doing normal activities. Sometimes if we decided not to go out, we just stay indoor and dine in watching Netflix. We don’t have sex every time and she still gets her allowance. We are in it for 3 years so we already build enough trust. I won’t do that if I’m just starting out.
The love part is true, I agree. My SB gives me attention and sends me text every other day. I also give her affection. Doesn’t mean she no longer has bills lol.
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Cool.
Without an emotional connection it’s simply never work even if you are paying. Most arrangement just fizzles out.
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Like sugar babies, if escorts are paid enough, I bet they'll have no problems doing those things either as money talks when it comes to many of those in the escorts and sugar baby segments and their services.
Money is necessary in sugar dating, but it’s not sufficient. Most SBs have to find you attractive. Many are not just gonna have a sugar relationship with anyone that can pay them. They’re going to look more than just your ppm or whatever. They’re gonna want to see if you’re a good fit, your looks, your personality etc. But most sugar relationship don’t begin unless there is agreement on provision. An escort usually has too many high body counts with random dudes because the volume is higher.
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Money is necessary in sugar dating, but it’s not sufficient. Most SBs have to find you attractive. Many are not just gonna have a sugar relationship with anyone that can pay them. They’re going to look more than just your ppm or whatever. They’re gonna want to see if you’re a good fit, your looks, your personality etc. But most sugar relationship don’t begin unless there is agreement on provision. An escort usually has too many high body counts with random dudes because the volume is higher.
Whether money alone is sufficient, that depends on the sugar baby/escort. I disagree with the "Most SBs have to find you attractive" point as that's not their main objective. Their main objective when they signed up to be a sugar baby is support usually in the form of monetary (cash) or material (gift). I will say that a small number of sugar babies will have to be attractive to their sugar daddies just like a small number of escorts have to be attractive to their Johns before they agree to engage in a session or date. Some will even put down who they'll see and who they won't on their ads to be clear and upfront.
There may be a few minor subtle differences between sugar babies and escorts here and there but the main premise of them receiving support and/or getting paid for their time and companionship is the same concept and no it doesn't necessarily have to involve sex nor intimacy in every case.
Like some sugar babies, some escorts have also been able to develop long-term relationships with their Johns and some have even gone as far as married their Johns in the process.
I agree with this study as they pointed out the subtle differences but in conclusion, it still falls under the same umbrella:
The practice of prostitution in various forms in a country, including in France, cannot be avoided, as is the form of its
promotion. For example, through trucks around universities in Paris that promote a sugar dating site. With the rise of
sugar dating advertisements in society, sugar dating has become public consumption because it is considered to change
the concept of escort which is part of the elegant side of prostitution. This study attempts to investigate the factors that
motivate university students to decide to practice sugar dating. Moreover, this study aims at finding whether sugar dating
itself is a part of prostitution and its position in front of French Laws. Using the qualitative method of Wahidmurni and
Fairclough’s Critical Discourse Analysis, the work shows differences in practices between sugar baby and conventional
prostitution. Moreover, the findings show that sugar baby practice is a form of prostitution and is punishable under
French law.
....This study found that economic factors were the
main reason behind the practice of sugar baby among
university students in France. Other factors are the desire
to achieve higher social strata and access to the upper
classes. This can be seen from the testimonies of the
babies and also the fact that sugar baby customers in
France are generally executives whose income is far
above average. Students who do this practice generally
use intermediary sugar dating sites that are considered
safe and provide a lot of convenience in selecting
customers and setting rates. The relationship between a
sugar baby and sugar daddy/mommy is also generally
sustainable. This makes it possible to give gifts beyond
the agreed rate, which are usually in the form of luxury
goods. This is what mainly makes sugar babies actors feel
different from conventional prostitution workers.
France's 2016 prostitution law has so far not been able to
address paid dating via websites because the majority are
based abroad and are easy to reopen if blocked by the
government. The activity of exchanging money and
sexual services included in sugar baby services makes
this practice the same as conventional prostitution as
stated in the definition of prostitution in la Chambre
criminelle du 27 mars 1996 so that it must be eliminated,
following the French prostitution law 2016 and its
abolitionist nature. Yet, it cannot be realized.
Furthermore, the problem of human trafficking is also
increasingly difficult to overcome with sophisticated
technology that offers convenience in the practice of
prostitution and paid dating services without prior
physical meetings.
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Whether money alone is sufficient, that depends on the sugar baby/escort. I disagree with the "Most SBs have to find you attractive" point as that's not their main objective. Their main objective when they signed up to be a sugar baby is support usually in the form of monetary (cash) or material (gift).
It’s really a personal decision. Some sugar babies need to find you attractive, have chemistry and an emotion connection before they get intimate, others do not.
Escorts don’t usually factor in looks or personality. They only screen the guy. You’ll find a number of women on sugar sites who are escorts and not really a SB. Just like on Tinder you’ll find a few number of women who are not looking to date you, but will try to sell you their services through web cams or Only Fans. So there’s a mixture of escorts and SBs.
A John is not even a sugar daddy. Sugar daddy do not see prostitutes. Johns are just looking for sex.
To me the difference is the behaviors and activities. Both escorts and SBs have different behaviors. I personally prefer SBs over escorts. Escorts don’t communicate with you in between meets. They avoid these things. You only call when you ready to go do the deed. My SB and I communicate between meets and are in constant communication. She don’t charge me per hour. She don’t look at the clock. So many things to lay down here but I think you get it.
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Double post
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I still cringed :2funny:
Although the practice should not be illegal, I believe it to be a illness of our times. As a young man myself, who has given careful consideration to the type of individual he wishes to become, I personally find any man, who sees women as a commodity in this way, to be reprehensible.
The downfall of our society is that is it transfixed with the concept of youth - Anti-wrinkle creams, being ‘young at heart’, 40 is the new 30 etc. Gone are the days where individuals lived their lives to become wise, responsible and able to provide the youth of today with a framework for a respectable way of Being.
These men, it appears, are unable to hold down a relationship with a women of their own age, most likely because they are emotionally and spiritually immature and of course insecure. They need their ego’s to be stroked by having a younger women by their side who they can control and dictate to due to their financial situation.
Of course there are circumstances where certain women may have ‘good’ experiences within this field of work, and indeed gain a feeling of empowerment from it. However most of the time, sadly, this is not the case.
Women should indeed be free to make any choice they wish, however with this freedom comes responsibility to make the right choice. It makes me sad that these women are willing to become commodified for the use of men, it also makes me sad that our society contains men who have remained adolescent, child-men, victims of their peter-pan syndrome, unable to show the young men of today a successful and decent way to act.
These are the reasons I believe the practice to be wrong.
https://www.quora.com/Whats-so-wrong-with-having-a-sugar-daddy (https://www.quora.com/Whats-so-wrong-with-having-a-sugar-daddy)
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It’s really a personal decision. Some sugar babies need to find you attractive, have chemistry and an emotion connection before they get intimate, others do not.
Escorts don’t usually factor in looks or personality. They only screen the guy. You’ll find a number of women on sugar sites who are escorts and not really a SB. Just like on Tinder you’ll find a few number of women who are not looking to date you, but will try to sell you their services through web cams or Only Fans. So there’s a mixture of escorts and SBs.
A John is not even a sugar daddy. Sugar daddy do not see prostitutes. Johns are just looking for sex.
To me the difference is the behaviors and activities. Both escorts and SBs have different behaviors. I personally prefer SBs over escorts. Escorts don’t communicate with you in between meets. They avoid these things. You only call when you ready to go do the deed. My SB and I communicate between meets and are in constant communication. She don’t charge me per hour. She don’t look at the clock. So many things to lay down here but I think you get it.
Correction:
Attraction is not necessary if there is a contract involved. You are setting up an allowance with terms and she is just playing the actress role to get payed. This is why it is legal to be in a SB/SD relationship. Even the website is advertising money in exchange for "gifts"... vs escort is money in exchange for sex
50% of the SB job is to fake the funk like giving you emotional support, something you can not get or lacking in your life. Is the term for her not to have other Sugar daddy? She is free to get as many clients as she wants. It is still legal to be a gold digger.
Bottom line, she needs her bills payed and you need that emotional support. There is something wrong with the both of yall. Both of you guys are faking the funk so might as well go to hollywood and make a career out of it. She is calling and texting you with sweet stuff right? It comes with the job. Keep them allowance coming and if you put me on your allowance, I'll text you day and night too. ;D
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Correction:
Attraction is not necessary if there is a contract involved. You are setting up an allowance with terms and she is just playing the actress role to get payed. This is why it is legal to be in a SB/SD relationship. Even the website is advertising money in exchange for "gifts"... vs escort is money in exchange for sex
50% of the SB job is to fake the funk like giving you emotional support, something you can not get or lacking in your life. Is the term for her not to have other Sugar daddy? She is free to get as many clients as she wants. It is still legal to be a gold digger.
Bottom line, she needs her bills payed and you need that emotional support. There is something wrong with the both of yall. Both of you guys are faking the funk so might as well go to hollywood and make a career out of it. She is calling and texting you with sweet stuff right? It comes with the job. Keep them allowance coming and if you put me on your allowance, I'll text you day and night too. ;D
Sounds like you don’t go out and do normal activities.
I would say most arrangements are straight sex for money arrangement. It works best if both of you are clear on expectations. How often do you guys text or talk on the phone between meets.
I see my SB once or twice a week and we are on allowance.
The problem can also be that you didn’t pay her enough so she feels like her needs aren’t being met so she has to go see other SDs. It’s common for this to happen because women has needs and 1 SD can’t fulfill all of them. If we aren’t exclusive I can do the same too. I can see other women. It’s just that the SD have to invest a lot more to secure exclusivity. You have to know how much she is getting from the other 1-2 SDs she is seeing. If she stop seeing them she no longer has income so you need to close that gap. You are competing with other daddies lol. If you are on the lower end of the budget then she’s placing her priorities somewhere else. She’s prioritizing the one that is given her more money.
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A John is not even a sugar daddy. Sugar daddy do not see prostitutes. Johns are just looking for sex.
A John can be a sugar daddy and a sugar daddy can also see prostitutes. Some Johns are looking for other services besides sex, for example the guy I know that hired an escort in a pinch to be his fake girlfriend at a wedding. Once the wedding is over, they part ways, no sex involved in that pay for time and companionship business transaction.
To me the difference is the behaviors and activities. Both escorts and SBs have different behaviors. I personally prefer SBs over escorts. Escorts don’t communicate with you in between meets. They avoid these things. You only call when you ready to go do the deed. My SB and I communicate between meets and are in constant communication. She don’t charge me per hour. She don’t look at the clock. So many things to lay down here but I think you get it.
Again, Escorts can communicate with you in between meets too if the money or gift is right. And as I've pointed out, some have even gone as far as marrying their regulars.
As stated, there are a few subtle differences between sugar babies and escorts but the business premise is pretty much the same, their clients pay them for their time. There are also a few subtle differences between escorts and conventional prostitutes say a street walker for example but at the end of the day, the clients still paid them for their time and pretty all 3 falls under the same umbrella, sex industry:
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IMO, they should just legalize "the oldest profession in the world" because it's gonna go on regardless of the legality status of that activity. At least if they legalize it, it could be much safer for all parties involved and generate some public resources such as tax, licensing fees, etc.
I have no issues with those that participate in the sex industry either as I've done it myself during my younger years. As long as the business transaction is between two consenting adults, it's all good IMO. And I've pointed that out several times on PH in the past... O0
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I don't understand why these women don't just be with a man who wants a real commitment. I guess those men are far and few these days.
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I don't understand why these women don't just be with a man who wants a real commitment. I guess those men are far and few these days.
Women only go for Chad. They want relationship from Chad and every one else is simping them. The guys who are all
below her wants her, but she wants the top tier guy.
Man have to either look really hot or make money.
Most men don’t fit women’s sky high standards lol
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Women only go for Chad. They want relationship from Chad and every one else is simping them. The guys who are all
below her wants her, but she wants the top tier guy.
Man have to either look really hot or make money.
Most men don’t fit women’s sky high standards lol
I don't know if I can believe that. I see attractive women who want a relationship with the average guy all the time. However, it's the men who don't want commitment. That's probably why women stopped caring and started only wanting Chads. If average men are going to be like that then might as well shoot for the Chads.
I know women who are exactly like that. They will only allow themselves to fall in love with a Chad. If they don't get a Chad then they will settle for less but the lesser guy can never hurt them emotionally. And when they don't care about the guy, the guy is simping all over her.
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I don't know if I can believe that. I see attractive women who want a relationship with the average guy all the time. However, it's the men who don't want commitment. That's probably why women stopped caring and started only wanting Chads. If average men are going to be like that then might as well shoot for the Chads.
I know women who are exactly like that. They will only allow themselves to fall in love with a Chad. If they don't get a Chad then they will settle for less but the lesser guy can never hurt them emotionally. And when they don't care about the guy, the guy is simping all over her.
On the surface it might look like they do, but deep down average guys are all paying lol. They are providing or have something the woman can benefit from long term. The only time they aren’t paying is if he’s a 7 and she’s like a 3. But if he’s average and she’s a Stacy, there’s no way he can get her just with game alone.
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Women only go for Chad. They want relationship from Chad and every one else is simping them. The guys who are all
below her wants her, but she wants the top tier guy.
Man have to either look really hot or make money.
Most men don’t fit women’s sky high standards lol
Your problem is your belief that everything is institutionali zed. Like 2+2 will always be 4. It is given that everyone, including women wants the top pick of the crops. However, do not let it deter you from your dating game because there is always an exception to them rules.
There are list, from the top best to the bottom that goes something like 1. Chad looks, 2. Money, 3. Humor ect ect. If you dont' have the top 2, at least have the next few. Use that to win some hearts. Be realistic to what you can get and if you want a dime, you can try to make her laugh and if she falls for you then cool but if not then nothing to cry soil milk over. Here is an example from the Vietnamese tabloid. The guy represent you, not that handsome, shorter than her but he's a comedian. She's a vietnamese singer that is half korean so she brings kpop to the vietnam market. He got money and humor and he got the girl. You can say the same for comedian Kevin Hart as well.
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So you see, not everything follows the rules of the cosmos. The reason why I'm going to marry my hmong girl is because she's the exceptional. O0
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Comparing two celebrities to 99% of us is not realistic. Most guys are not comedians and celebrities are in a completely different world. If you haven’t notice a lot of celebrities date each other. You have millionaire dating other millionaire. Most dimes are dating CEOs, athletes, pop stars, sugar daddies etc. you don’t see a dime with average broke dudes.
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Comparing two celebrities to 99% of us is not realistic. Most guys are not comedians and celebrities are in a completely different world. If you haven’t notice a lot of celebrities date each other. You have millionaire dating other millionaire. Most dimes are dating CEOs, athletes, pop stars, sugar daddies etc. you don’t see a dime with average broke dudes.
Broke guys don't have no business in the end game of things. Women have their own choices. It is only logical that by the principle of biology for women to seek out the best of the best for her. Would she date a broke guy? No but with an exception. If he's handsome is the exception. Look at britney spears. She is a multi millionaire and she once married her back up dancer. What is that guy's net worth? Probably making less than I am but he's handsome.
My friend straight out of college met a dentist online and they ended up marrying. She was a tad older, late 30s and he just 21, fresh out of college. The guy was handsome and once they met for the first time in MN (she's from washington state), they ended up marrying in less than 6 months. You see, older women don't hang around and date for a long time. They pushes the envelop because they are not getting any younger. They now have a business in burnsville MN and he does front desk work for her.
Another real life case study for you. Loser guys with no money like druggie or gangster losers tend to have hot looking females. These women have no sense of a future nor do they know how to exploit their looks to make money or gold digging for her end game. So yes, pretty looking women do make mistakes by dating losers too.
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If a guy is average looking and when he finally finds his exceptional girl who will like him for him, that girl will more likely be a 3. This explains the reason why women who message you first tend to be uglier, that’s because those are the girls you can get based on your smv (sexual market value).
If we look at fat people for example, a fat guy dates a fat woman. The only time this is an exception is when the fat guy has money (aka sugar daddy).
Now a handsome guy can get dates and relationships but he’s not sugaring. Now if he decide to sugar, he still have to pay because that’s how sugar works. Sugar is always allowance no matter if the guy is attractive or not. Just because he’s handsome doesn’t rule him out. Sugar is supposed to be mutual beneficial. But he doesn’t need to sugar if he’s handsome enough. He can just stick to regular dating. Why do you think incels exist?
If the handsome guy get in a relationship with the girl she will not receive allowance but she’s probably still benefiting from his lifestyle and I’m sure he still spends on her, just not giving her cash directly.
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If we look at fat people for example, a fat guy dates a fat woman. The only time this is an exception is when the fat guy has money (aka sugar daddy).
Not always the case. Although the numbers are small, some girls that society generally considered good looking prefers fat guys. On the flip side, some guys that society generally considered good looking also prefers fat girls. Money and/or status aren't really a factor, they're just genuinely attracted to them.
5 Scientific Reasons Why Women Love Fat Guys
Why are larger men lusted after? Here's what science says.
Good news for chubby, husky, and straight-up fat guys: A growing body of research suggests that women are attracted to men who edge closer to the side of overweight. And it’s not just because they think chubby guys are funny or cute. In fact, women love fat guys for a number of reasons grounded in science, ranging from the assumed trustworthines s of fat guys to increased sexual stamina that extra pounds bring. And although being overweight comes with a number of health risks, including heart disease and erectile dysfunction, chubby guys don’t need to get lean to find love. Science suggests that if there’s one area in which husky men don’t seem to struggle, it’s relationships. But why do girls like fat guys? Here are five scientific reasons why women lust after fat men.
Chubby Men Are Thought to Be Funnier
A substantial amount of evidence shows that women are more attracted to men who can make them laugh. (In line with everything wrong with the world, it doesn’t work the other way around.) Although all fat men aren’t necessarily funny, pop culture has socialized most people to believe that fat equals funny, unless proven otherwise. So whether or not those extra pounds translate to a sense of humor, women are likely to assume that fat guys are funny.
Love Handles Can Handle Longer Lovemaking
Chubby guys are better in bed, according to a survey of 2,544 British women. Thirty-eight percent reported that overweight or plus-size men were superior lovers. It’s not totally clear why extra cushion improves the pushin’, but research suggests stamina might have something to do with it. Men with noticeable bellies and higher BMIs last 7.3 minutes longer in bed than slimmer men, a 2010 study from the International Journal of Impotence Research found. Hey, that’s 7.3 fewer minutes needed in the gym.
Fat Guys Are Considered Trustworthy
The saying “never trust a skinny chef” may have less to do with food than people think, according to research from the University of Missouri. This study found that skinny politicians are less trustworthy compared to their husky counterparts. These findings make a solid case for Democratic presidential candidates eating more carbs, and this may be why women are into fat guys. Sure, trustworthines s isn’t exactly the same thing as attractiveness . But it definitely adds to the appeal of chubby men.
Attractive Fat Guys Are a Product of Evolution
“Those who could store fat easily had an evolutionary advantage in the harsh environment of early hunters and gatherers,” Garabed Eknoyan, M.D., of the Baylor College of Medicine wrote in a 2006 paper. “This ability to store surplus fat from the least possible amount of food intake may have made the difference between life and death.” Indeed, in early human history, being husky was a status symbol: It meant you had the resources to survive, and you could share with a spouse. Being a fat guy indicated you were well off. Although modern women are more likely to be attracted to money than food, old habits die hard. It’s possible, Eknoyan writes, that traces of this instinctual attraction for fat guys linger, even when it doesn’t come with a mansion.
Everyone Looks Thin Next to a Fat Guy
Let’s face it. For every study that says men (chubby ones in particular) aren’t judged for their bodies, there are another 10 that say women are positively flayed for theirs. Partnering with a huskier man who’s not obsessed with his body might make a woman feel more secure about her own. This, of course, on top of the literal comfort of cuddling with a chubby man’s cozier bod. There’s just more to love on a fat guy.
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You can always find an exception but it’s not the rule.
There’s no magical formula for average guys or obese guy dating a hot supermodel unless he have money or status.
There’s a science that showed younger girls like older men too. Older men who are more established. Of course most women don’t like older men but they are out there.
For some people, dating someone on Tinder is the same as dating someone older. She might prefer an older man the same way when she sugar. Others may accept a few flaws here and there.
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Yep, that's all I'm saying, we shouldn't say the rule applies to all and say things like "the only time this is an exception is"...due to several exceptions out there that we should look at first. For example, this French President, I'm sure he can have pretty much any girl he wants at his age or even younger but he prefers this much older lady:
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