PebHmong Discussion Forum
General Category => General Discussion => Topic started by: lexicon on December 19, 2019, 11:55:16 AM
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Updates are still streaming in. Long story short; domestic disturbance escalates to a standoff eventually leading to the death of Chiaser Fong Vue.
-reports indicate he had a knife at first
-grabbed a rifle and shot at the police (reports indicate Chiaser fired first)
-was he holding his family hostage?
-was anyone in the house in immediate danger?
I've seen plenty of outrage due to the discrepancy in the number of shots fired into the home at CFV (17 vs 107, police report vs family's count). But there's also a disconnect between what police should have done as opposed to what they did do. Would it change anyone's mind knowing one of the officer's who fired was Hmong (Yang)? Was this another case of a husband who intended to kill or threatened his spouse?
It'll be difficult to remain objective considering the recent trends in the Hmong Community regarding domestic abuse cases and their outcomes. What says anyone else?
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That is shocking news.
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We have a gun violence problem here in the USA
The police are train to engage the threat ASAP
When you wait
People die
That parkland Florida, that coward cop waited
And lots of kids die
The police are using this tactic everywhere these days
They shoot and killed that UPS HOSTAGE
Along with the gun man
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i don't condone or condemn
Where is this brother GOFUNDME page
Time to open up the wallet
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If you bring a weapon to confront the police, the police will be justified to shoot and kill you whether if one shot was fired or 100 until the threat is inactive. Domestic violence calls are extremely dangerous situations for all parties, best to comply with police. Dead guy was a fool putting his family through that, sounds like an unintelligent narcissistic sociopath.
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Without all the facts, it's too early to judge.
However, reports state this was the 3rd domestic disturbance call to this house in just December (5th of the year). What if no actions were taken and ultimately the couple became more victims of a murder-suicide in the Hmong Community?
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Primitive is, primitive does if true...
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There are two realities that PoC (people of color) must realize and begin to take action.
1) A white police force does not understand PoC. Their perception of PoC is through the media, and often time media says all black people are violent, Mexicans are druggies/rule-breaker, and Asians can't be trusted. Since these white police force never gets to spend enough time with the members of their community they serve, they fear their community versus loving their community. A fear-based individual will do really ugly things and stand behind the badge to get away with a mistake.
2) The police training is shoot first, ask questions later because a dead person cannot defend him/herself. Police training teaches the police force to fear their community members, and so again, fear drives their action. A police officer may see a member of their community as an enemy especially if it is a PoC.
What is the solution?
1) The training needs to change to reflect a more compassionate police force.
2) The police force needs to represent their community so that the community member don't fear the police, and the police don't fear the community member.
It is only through dialogue, exposure to each other, etc... that we can begin this healing process to where we (PoC) see our police officer as excellent member of society versus someone we cannot trust. It begins with the authority to want to change, but that will take a decade and the members willing to serve, teach, and become the police force.
I have family member who serve the force and they literally say, duck that, I rather shot first ask questions later because that's the safest thing for me. It breaks my heart to hear that, and I asked them why they serve...it pays good and why not, and I am serving. Fawking sad...we need servant leaders who want to become excellent leader of our community.
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Did the police use a hostage negotiator at all?
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I guess there was a legitimate language barrier but not sure if it was through a negotiator.
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its already trouble if you have gun in sight with the police