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The Single & Dating Scenes / Re: We have to be more romantic to keep our dates.

« on: September 14, 2022, 06:50:59 PM »

If the "allowance" is right, an "escort" can spend time with you inside and outside of the bedroom too...

Money talks when it comes to most escorts' time just like sugar babies...Some buyers don't even want "sex" at all, they paid those girls just for their time.

I know a guy that paid an escort to be his fake girlfriend at a wedding just to impress others. Once the wedding is over, they went their separate ways, no sex involved, just time..

Yes you can take some escorts out on dates. But she does that has her job. You are just paying for her service.

A sugar baby is someone that receive financial support from someone she is dating. My SB texts me good morning and misses me. She also cooks for me. An escort doesn’t do any of that.

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The Single & Dating Scenes / Re: We have to be more romantic to keep our dates.

« on: September 14, 2022, 11:23:18 AM »

Looks like a lot of work involved.

I guess if someone is just interested in sex, one might go that extent.

Ok. So, you have trained to do what a man needs to do.

I keep thinking, the chicks need the sex and love, too. They had better  know how to hook us or we'd just move to other girls.

I’ve had 2 meets but didn’t work out. It took me 3 months to find my first SB.

I don’t like an arrangement that’s surrounded by sex only. If I wanted only sex I would see an escort.

I enjoy spending time together inside and outside of the bedroom where we have a real relationship and doing normal activities. Sometimes if we decided not to go out, we just stay indoor and dine in watching Netflix. We don’t have sex every time and she still gets her allowance. We are in it for 3 years so we already build enough trust. I won’t do that if I’m just starting out. 

The love part is true, I agree. My SB gives me attention and sends me text every other day. I also give her affection. Doesn’t mean she no longer has bills lol.

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The Single & Dating Scenes / Re: We have to be more romantic to keep our dates.

« on: September 12, 2022, 10:56:08 PM »

I see. I should do mutual exchanges to be fair then. Get them to agree to an exchange.

I still think we can't assume that only men are interested in sex.

See here’s the thing. Hmong girls are conservative so sex is highly unlikely to happen. Asian girls has the anti-slut mechanism. They get butt hurt easy and they don’t understand sarcasm. Everything you say they took it as an insult. That’s based on my experience. I’m not saying all Asian girls are like that, but I think sex can only happen to certain girls.

But if we’re talking Meka dawb it’s waay harder to get sex as an Asian guy. Sometime if a woman is attracted to you sex can happen on the first date, but you have to know how the game works in order to lead the interaction to get sex. Even if the girl is attracted to you, if you don’t know what to say to get her wet and talk about stupid irrelevant stuff that doesn’t lead you toward the sex the girl will get bored and leave.

When it comes to online texting, I can get girls to open on the first message easy. You have to set the frame sexually right from the start if you’re looking to hookup. You have to know how to open, how to qualify her, then how to number closed. I usually move the conversation on the app to phone. There’s a method I personally follow that works for me. Even sugar dating is still tough for me. I still have to put in the effort and make them interested to get the date. Getting the match is the hardest.

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The Single & Dating Scenes / Re: We have to be more romantic to keep our dates.

« on: September 12, 2022, 11:22:30 AM »

You don't think women want sex above all else as well? I've given resources to women while avoiding sex and they never see me again. I think if I had offered sex in place of resources or if both, they might still be around?

You was leading with your wallet. Lol.

You have to lay out expectations on both ends and do not assume that she will put out.

Some women never intended to be intimate with you. But if you offer them resources they’re going to take it.

They may want sex too, but it may take a bit of time for them to warm up and feel the vibe.

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The Single & Dating Scenes / Re: Women date up

« on: September 11, 2022, 04:07:52 PM »

The men can sense this. They don't want a gal whose been around the block too many times, even if she was never married nor had children. At least the divorcees can say that they were trying to make a marriage work with only one sexual partner.

Lol! Men who bash women because they been around the block aren’t getting any.

If a guy is judgemental ageinst  women for having sex then it will be hard for him to get sex.

You see, in order for a gal to fk him, she has to sleep with him lol!

This is like people who are against making money. They think money is evil and this and that. If they think like that, then how they going to be rich?

Guys who bash women automatically stopping themselves from getting sex because they assume something is wrong with women.   

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The Single & Dating Scenes / Re: Women date up

« on: September 11, 2022, 01:59:28 PM »

Wait, so we aren't talking about dating that leads to a commitment?

Honestly, it just sounds like a lot of wasted time. Women don't stay young forever. There is always new crop coming in. Have fun but do not waste their youthful looks getting stuffed by men who aren't even serious. By the time these women are ready to be serious and settle down, they will feel too used up. The men can sense this. They don't want a gal whose been around the block too many times, even if she was never married nor had children. At least the divorcees can say that they were trying to make a marriage work with only one sexual partner.

Most arrangements are without commitment because the man is an older man with a wife and kids so there’s no possible of having a future together. Unless he’s single and she moves in and he continue providing for her. It’s rare but not impossible.

I look for sugar relationship that feels like normal dating except with the financial support. If I’m dating a woman and she move in with me, I will still continue supporting her. Maybe not in a monetary way but in another way (unless she needs it).

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The Single & Dating Scenes / Re: We have to be more romantic to keep our dates.

« on: September 11, 2022, 01:08:07 PM »

You are a pro, Gracified23.

Yup, I am. Even in a normal dating situation most men still gonna expect sex at the end of the date. From men perspective, it’s always about sex. From women perspective it’s your resources. 

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The Single & Dating Scenes / Re: We have to be more romantic to keep our dates.

« on: September 11, 2022, 01:04:01 PM »

So now G is paying for sex? Isn't that basically hiring an escort service or paying a prostitute?

I am so confused.

A sugar relationship is not anything like hiring an escort or paying a prostitute, and is closer to a real relationship.

It’s not morally wrong to financially help someone you date. It’s morally wrong to pay for a prostitute you meet at a hotel.

With sugar, we both set our expectations upfront. We both know what we’re getting out of the relationship. We both have agree. So there’s no guessing like in a normal dating where the guy take the girl out to dinner and expect sex at the end of the night. The sex may not guarantee for him because that wasn’t expected. It’s how the toned it set from the beginning. Sugar dating is just defining this upfront. The man wants sex, the girl wants to be financially supported.

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The Single & Dating Scenes / Re: We have to be more romantic to keep our dates.

« on: September 10, 2022, 09:56:10 AM »

You gotta throw in some allowance on top of that too. 

Here’s why: If you only offer experience to women by taking them out on dates then you’re no different than every other guy. Even a good bf should already do that by default.

This is why most men take a woman to dinner and expect sex at the  of the night, she rejects him because there was no allowance, there was only experience to a dinner date. Women want more than that!

This is why sex isn’t guarantee in normal dating. Sex is guarantee for me because we are upfront.

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The Single & Dating Scenes / Re: Focus on her initial interest

« on: September 07, 2022, 11:10:56 PM »

What you're doing proves my point about pretty women. Once they allow a man to use them for their looks then they become a dime a dozen. It might only be worth it if the man is filthy rich, but even Hugh Hefner's three wives divorced him later.

I prefer that the man falls in love with me first and my physical appearance is just a bonus. Again, this is why I don't show my picture before the guy knows me. If he feels doubtful about what I might look like then that is his loss.

Sugar standards are different. Women date men because they are successful/have stability. Men wouldn’t date women if they aren’t attractive. In normal dating, that may also still be true. People still has to find each other attractive. In sugar, I still want the girl to find me attractive. Money should be extra. She shouldn’t sugar out of desperation.

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The Single & Dating Scenes / Re: Focus on her initial interest

« on: September 07, 2022, 08:03:41 PM »

What you're doing proves my point about pretty women. Once they allow a man to use them for their looks then they become a dime a dozen. It might only be worth it if the man is filthy rich, but even Hugh Hefner's three wives divorced him later.

I prefer that the man falls in love with me first and my physical appearance is just a bonus. Again, this is why I don't show my picture before the guy knows me. If he feels doubtful about what I might look like then that is his loss.

I can date average looking women for free. I’m way more pickier when money is involved. 

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The Single & Dating Scenes / Re: Focus on her initial interest

« on: September 07, 2022, 01:01:46 AM »

What is excitement according to the men? If it's a woman who keeps an active social schedule, such as frequent outings with family, female friends and/or recreational hobbies then I'm done for.   

I'm a real homebody and my hobbies are usually quiet activities. Walking, reading, writing, drawing, watching documentaries, listening to debates, solving puzzles, and storyboarding - things of that nature. I'm not opposed to enjoying physical activities: horseback riding, hiking, camping, tubing, biking, scootering, etc. I love all those things, too, but I just don't do them as regularly as the other stuff.

As I get older, I've become very cooperative and just want to get along for the sake of peace. That means I don't frequently suggest or invite things to do with my partner as I used to, but it doesn't mean I've lost feelings or attraction. We can peacefully exist in our own corner of the house and still feel comforted to know that commitment hasn't diminished. But reading the posts from men on here gives me some anxiety. It feels like many of you want to be entertained 24/7 by your woman in order to maintain your attraction towards her. Otherwise it's "good-bye". I think when you're in the dating or bf/gf stage then it is important (almost vital) to entertain the other person. Heck, I'd want to hear from my man all the time, too, in order to feel secure about his feelings for me. But once in a marriage, you know that you have true love when you don't have to talk to each other every minute of the day YET feel so in love and giddy the moment you do converse and spend time together.

Women who are less conventional attractive (5s and 6s are in less demand compare to 8s, 9s and 10s) across the board. In sugar, because I am putting out cash, I am more picky and women are now have to reach out where tables are turned. I don’t chase them if I am financially supporting them. The older and less attractive/overweight a woman is, the harder to find a sugar daddy.

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The Single & Dating Scenes / Re: Women date up

« on: September 05, 2022, 09:16:22 PM »

If a man only dates you for your looks then run away fast. Dating him only gives him the idea that he can get any beautiful woman and guess what? He will trade you in for another younger model. And he'll keep doing the same now that he's gained confidence.

I get why a super pretty woman will date and marry an unattractive, rich man. At least she is getting material things from him and gets to enjoy living a luxurious life. When he dumps her for the next skirt, her beauty can get her another unattractive, rich man. Keep doing this and sooner or later she will acquire actual monetary wealth from divorce settlements.

And a regular girl dating a bum gets nothing while she gets her heart broken. 

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The Single & Dating Scenes / Re: Women date up

« on: September 05, 2022, 09:12:11 PM »

If a man only dates you for your looks then run away fast. Dating him only gives him the idea that he can get any beautiful woman and guess what? He will trade you in for another younger model. And he'll keep doing the same now that he's gained confidence.

I get why a super pretty woman will date and marry an unattractive, rich man. At least she is getting material things from him and gets to enjoy living a luxurious life. When he dumps her for the next skirt, her beauty can get her another unattractive, rich man. Keep doing this and sooner or later she will acquire actual monetary wealth from divorce settlements.

Well the difference is that if the man is an older man (45+) it won’t be an equal value exchange to a girl in her early 20s, with dozens of options of guys more attractive than he is. Women in their 20s are far more desireable  than a man in his 40s, 50s or older. So the money bridge that looks gaps and age gaps. She will trade her beauty for his generosity. That’s how it work. Now of course there are other factors that comes into play like personality too. But it’s looks first.

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The Single & Dating Scenes / Women date up

« on: August 30, 2022, 06:20:48 PM »

I’ve been studying the manosphere culture for over 20 years, most of the sub 5 guys had a attractive woman due to his money, status, and or resources. But according to PUAs, it’s because he have game. Nope, 10 times out of 10, he’s providing something that the other guys can’t. Unless I see some proof  of the ugly broke guys with hot women I will believe otherwise.