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Title: Really Ivanka? Is that how Republicans see poor people?
Post by: YAX on March 06, 2019, 11:19:12 PM
"so I think this idea of a guarantee minimum is not something most people want" - Ivanka Trump

Really Ivanka?

https://youtu.be/kGGbqEi0MI4
Title: Re: Really Ivanka? Is that how Republicans see poor people?
Post by: Gucci K on March 07, 2019, 09:17:21 AM
Ivanka is Really pretty!  who cares what she thinks! ha..j/k!

when people starts to demand a standard pay, it forces employers to offer the minimum wage.  it eliminates the ability to negotiate your salary, your experience, qualifications and educational background are thrown out the window...it's either you want the job or you don't, cause the person interviewing after you might take it.

did i say Ivanka is Really pretty! ha!
Title: Re: Really Ivanka? Is that how Republicans see poor people?
Post by: YAX on March 07, 2019, 10:04:23 AM
It's probably pretty difficult to be a Republican.  You try and try to earn respect, but just when you think you got it, one of your leaders go and say something so dumb that you have to come up with lame excuses in support of their outrageous statement.  Like, "oh, what she really meant was...blahblah".   ;D
Title: Re: Really Ivanka? Is that how Republicans see poor people?
Post by: Gucci K on March 07, 2019, 02:02:04 PM
talk about being difficult...ha ve you heard some the news:

AOC's ridiculous Green New deal?  she's a hippo-crit, she goes against everything she says.
Ilhan Omar's anti semitics...she's as racist as one can be 
Nancy Pim Loj Xim's ineffectivenes s in controlling of the house...her dumb-0-crats are all over the place.
Dumb-o-crats' "illusion of collusion", they're unwillingness to work with trump in securing the borders, budgets, economics and other more important stuff, but instead they want to witch hunt him.

Right now there's only 15 but by the end of the year we'll probably have 20 democrats who think they can go against trump in the 2020 presidential race...correct ion: make that 14, Hillarious just dropped out!   

it's pretty difficult trying not to laugh at dumb-o-crats.  ha!
Title: Re: Really Ivanka? Is that how Republicans see poor people?
Post by: theking on March 07, 2019, 02:29:45 PM
LOVE IT!!! ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Really Ivanka? Is that how Republicans see poor people?
Post by: YAX on March 07, 2019, 03:42:12 PM
talk about being difficult...ha ve you heard some the news:

AOC's ridiculous Green New deal?  she's a hippo-crit, she goes against everything she says.
Ilhan Omar's anti semitics...she's as racist as one can be 
Nancy Pim Loj Xim's ineffectivenes s in controlling of the house...her dumb-0-crats are all over the place.
Dumb-o-crats' "illusion of collusion", they're unwillingness to work with trump in securing the borders, budgets, economics and other more important stuff, but instead they want to witch hunt him.

Right now there's only 15 but by the end of the year we'll probably have 20 democrats who think they can go against trump in the 2020 presidential race...correct ion: make that 14, Hillarious just dropped out!   

it's pretty difficult trying not to laugh at dumb-o-crats.  ha!
or divert attention from the issue being discussed.  I see that alot too.  Just bring up AOC.  Nevermind that she's not leading the Democrat party, just put her in the spotlight so the Trumps can have something to hide behind.

Alot of democrats are coming out because they're seeing an easy victory into the whitehouse.  They're just climbing over each other to make it to the door.  Kinda like millions of sperm swimming towards the egg because the path is wide opened.

 Okay, now that AOC and the dem side tracking arguments are done with, let's get back to Ivanka again.  ;D
Title: Re: Really Ivanka? Is that how Republicans see poor people?
Post by: w1s3m0n on March 07, 2019, 07:17:06 PM
Milton Friedman is a giant among economists.  He sees the real issue.  Same debate, new era.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ca8Z__o52sk (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ca8Z__o52sk)

"so I think this idea of a guarantee minimum is not something most people want" - Ivanka Trump

Really Ivanka?

https://youtu.be/kGGbqEi0MI4 (https://youtu.be/kGGbqEi0MI4)

The minimum wage will accelerate automation and only cause more issue versus allow society to slowly automate.

(http://static.conservativetribune.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/04/Cg_2O0NUYAA5vWu-470x465.jpg)
Title: Re: Really Ivanka? Is that how Republicans see poor people?
Post by: w1s3m0n on March 07, 2019, 07:18:45 PM
Another video on responsibility ...people have responsibility .

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rls8H6MktrA (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rls8H6MktrA)
Title: Re: Really Ivanka? Is that how Republicans see poor people?
Post by: w1s3m0n on March 07, 2019, 07:20:42 PM
Results of FREE MARKET.  You cannot deny the facts if you study the topic deeply.

(http://iresearch.worldbank.org/PovcalNet/images/ChinaSpecialNoteChart1.png)
Title: Re: Really Ivanka? Is that how Republicans see poor people?
Post by: YAX on March 08, 2019, 07:46:16 AM
great charts W1s, now let's get back to what Ivanka said:

"so I think this idea of a guarantee minimum is not something most people want" - Ivanka Trump

You really think most people don't want a guarantee minimum?  ;)
Title: Re: Really Ivanka? Is that how Republicans see poor people?
Post by: w1s3m0n on March 08, 2019, 12:44:20 PM
great charts W1s, now let's get back to what Ivanka said:

"so I think this idea of a guarantee minimum is not something most people want" - Ivanka Trump

You really think most people don't want a guarantee minimum?  ;)

Xay, you just trolling because I don't see how a guy with an MBA cannot comprehend Milton Friedman's points.  We want LIVABLE WAGES and not MINIMUM WAGE.  The livable wage is a market problem related to job creation.  The minimum wage is a fallacy.  Anytime the government control the market it blows up.  Look at how the government and the ZIRP.  What did ZIRP do?  It crashed the middle class and there's an upcoming market correction in 2020 or 2021.  Look at the corn subsidy and the solar subsidy.  Government regulation of the market IS NOT DURABLE.  When you get that, life is easy.
Title: Re: Really Ivanka? Is that how Republicans see poor people?
Post by: YAX on March 12, 2019, 07:10:03 PM
Xay, you just trolling because I don't see how a guy with an MBA cannot comprehend Milton Friedman's points.  We want LIVABLE WAGES and not MINIMUM WAGE.  The livable wage is a market problem related to job creation.  The minimum wage is a fallacy.  Anytime the government control the market it blows up.  Look at how the government and the ZIRP.  What did ZIRP do?  It crashed the middle class and there's an upcoming market correction in 2020 or 2021.  Look at the corn subsidy and the solar subsidy.  Government regulation of the market IS NOT DURABLE.  When you get that, life is easy.
I don't think you understand, it's not what you want, it's that The Trump's will never give you want you want and his base don't even care. You can argue till you're blue but it doesn't change the fact that he's a moron and so is his daughter but being a moron is exactly what his base desires because they look at him and they see themselves except with money.  By electing him, they are validating themselves and thinking if they had money they coul be elected just like him even though they are morons.  You don't need an MBA to see that, you only need to see beyond Fox news brainwashing.
Title: Re: Really Ivanka? Is that how Republicans see poor people?
Post by: w1s3m0n on March 12, 2019, 09:25:49 PM
I don't think you understand, it's not what you want, it's that The Trump's will never give you want you want and his base don't even care. You can argue till you're blue but it doesn't change the fact that he's a moron and so is his daughter but being a moron is exactly what his base desires because they look at him and they see themselves except with money.  By electing him, they are validating themselves and thinking if they had money they coul be elected just like him even though they are morons.  You don't need an MBA to see that, you only need to see beyond Fox news brainwashing.

I voted for Hilary and Obama so shut up with the polarizing bullsh1t you are doing.  The problem with people like you in the democratic party is you people are SOCIALIST who don't get that all species run on GREED.  Take the greed factor out and nobody is going to work.  Get over your stupid partyline and start thinking for yourself. 
Title: Re: Really Ivanka? Is that how Republicans see poor people?
Post by: w1s3m0n on March 12, 2019, 09:39:15 PM
I have great ideas...Make the minimum wage $25!  Then adjust it every 3 years for inflation and GDP.  That way EVERYONE working will never see poverty.  Let's make America great again by giving FREE HEALTHCARE TO ALL!  Fiscal responsibility?  What's that?  Us middle-aged Americans, we dead in 20-30 years.  Who cares...  Accountability to our children?  Who cares because let us get the gravy train rolling!

Only if life was as simple as those supersmart and intelligent DFL who thinks money grows on the tree and the debt is not a problem.  Bankers shave off 3%, transactional healthcare shave off another 3%, everybody shaves off 1-2%, and soon 10% of the wealth generated by hard-working American is gone to systems that government should be creating if they weren't so inept.  But heh, let's the inept government keep growing, and let's not hire those with merit too...That would create the best country. 
Title: Re: Really Ivanka? Is that how Republicans see poor people?
Post by: YAX on March 13, 2019, 04:35:05 AM
You're falling too much for Fox news.  Here's a Republican who says $174k is hard to live on and you all still expect people to live on $7/hr.

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/rep-duncan-hunter-its-difficult-to-live-in-san-diego-on-a-congressional-salary-of-174k (https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/rep-duncan-hunter-its-difficult-to-live-in-san-diego-on-a-congressional-salary-of-174k)
Title: Re: Really Ivanka? Is that how Republicans see poor people?
Post by: w1s3m0n on March 13, 2019, 07:44:28 PM
You're falling too much for Fox news.  Here's a Republican who says $174k is hard to live on and you all still expect people to live on $7/hr.

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/rep-duncan-hunter-its-difficult-to-live-in-san-diego-on-a-congressional-salary-of-174k (https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/rep-duncan-hunter-its-difficult-to-live-in-san-diego-on-a-congressional-salary-of-174k)

So typical of coastal liberals.  I cannot believe they control the party and it's NO WONDER TRUMP WON.  You people are completely disconnected from the rest of America.  Don't cry me a river about how hard it is to live with 200k earning.  You get no sympathy.  We make 45k in the Midwest and we live off that comfortably.  No lavishness and we get by.  You coastal liberals are complaining about making 5x a Middle American.  Just STOP.  There is no SHAME with the coastal liberals and their CONSTANTLY demand for MORE-MORE-MORE.  There is no HUMILITY.  Trump will continue to win until people like you wake up and understand how half the Americans are living.

Honestly, I'm so sick of voting democrat...it's just that I cannot stand the Republicans.

Lastly, I don't watch the news.  Everything I write is based upon careful analysis within our system and outside of our system.  I'm pretty damn sure my mental model of America is quite right...If I was a tall white American man or a female Asian from a well to do family, I would run for some office but we all know too well white privilege exists, and the Asian man is the subservient beta male -- thank you liberals Hollywood for promoting the idea in all of your movies.
Title: Re: Really Ivanka? Is that how Republicans see poor people?
Post by: YAX on March 14, 2019, 08:43:46 AM
Maybe you misunderstood.  You got a Republican who said he couldn't live off $174K/year salary; while thinking that others can live off wages lower than $7/hr.  Think about it.  Every Republican on here has no empathy for others, just like the people they vote for.  No empathy means, you have no clue that you're hurting others with your policies that only benefit yourself.  I knew a republican once who had Muscular Dystrophy.  Yes, I hired him part time to speak to children with similar issue, but his whole thing was how he disagreed with SSI, eventhough he's on it and its the reason he has a home.  He disagrees with it because Fox tells him that it's being misused, but when it came to him, oh no, its okay for him because he's the exception.  Pretty much the mindset of all Republicans.  You can have it, you're entitled to it, but no one else is.  Just look at The Trumps.  Trump's grandfather can own a brothel and that's okay but no one else can. Trump can fck as many hooker as he likes and it's okay, but no one else can. etc.  Trump can bully anyone else, but no one can bully him, that's not okay.
Title: Re: Really Ivanka? Is that how Republicans see poor people?
Post by: w1s3m0n on March 14, 2019, 08:08:49 PM
Maybe you misunderstood.  You got a Republican who said he couldn't live off $174K/year salary; while thinking that others can live off wages lower than $7/hr.  Think about it.  Every Republican on here has no empathy for others, just like the people they vote for.  No empathy means, you have no clue that you're hurting others with your policies that only benefit yourself.  I knew a republican once who had Muscular Dystrophy.  Yes, I hired him part time to speak to children with similar issue, but his whole thing was how he disagreed with SSI, eventhough he's on it and its the reason he has a home.  He disagrees with it because Fox tells him that it's being misused, but when it came to him, oh no, its okay for him because he's the exception.  Pretty much the mindset of all Republicans.  You can have it, you're entitled to it, but no one else is.  Just look at The Trumps.  Trump's grandfather can own a brothel and that's okay but no one else can. Trump can fck as many hooker as he likes and it's okay, but no one else can. etc.  Trump can bully anyone else, but no one can bully him, that's not okay.

Neither party in the past 30 years has done well.  Reagan, Bush Sr., Clinton, Bush Jr., Obama, Trump, etc...  Why is that?  Because the damn politicians care more about their next election than they do about governing.  There is a black conservative movement because of why?  Every four years the DFL comes asking for black votes, and after that, they forget about them.  In Wisconsin, Governor Doyle won the election with Hmong votes to support.  He promised the Hmong community a center and nothing happen.  Sounds familiar to the black issues eh?  Do you know why black people have high incarceration?  It's because of CLINTON's policy on the war on drug.  He needed to do that to win the election again.  Great idea but it became an issue with incarcerating young black man and destroying the young black family.  Clinton did more damage from social policy to black people than any of the Presidents after him.  A black President is voted into office.  What did black people get?  A cell phone and some money for community rebuilding.  It still doesn't address the underlining issue of the black crisis - lack of family value, high teen pregnancy, and lack of opportunity in the inner city.  Why is the inner city becoming blighted?  High taxes.  The DFL raises the taxes and the business leaves.  The business leaving reduces the demand for labor in the inner city, and it in term reduces the house value in the inner city, that in turn reduces the city revenue, that in turn reduces the quality of the school, and etc...  Business WILL ALWAYS LEAVE FOR LOWER TAXES.  It's why Texas is a hot growing job market.  Sure it's not Silicon Valley but once Silicon Valley reaches a certain price point, they can no longer be profitable and will have to leave.  These are just off the top examples, if we think through the policies, the path to hell is paved with good intentions.  As a nation we have to THINK MULTI-FACTORIAL ANLAYSIS, and not these singular concepts like raise taxes, or minimum wage.  They are simply not effective at governing.

Title: Re: Really Ivanka? Is that how Republicans see poor people?
Post by: theking on March 14, 2019, 10:37:08 PM
As I've said, Politicians AKA professional liars just suck in general based on my observations in the last few decades...Lots of talk but no walk...in many instances...re gardless of party affiliation.

(https://mstartzman.pbworks.com/f/Read%20my%20lips%20no%20new%20taxes.jpg)

(https://i.pinimg.com/474x/07/75/e1/0775e1b513018de0335c6715410666e2--political-corruption-politics.jpg?b=t)
Title: Re: Really Ivanka? Is that how Republicans see poor people?
Post by: Believe_N_Me on April 03, 2019, 02:14:23 AM
YAX,

If poor people want a guaranteed minimum wage then why are they trying to raise it to $15?

I mean after all, they are guaranteed $7.25 as of now. Isn't that what YOU AND YOUR dummy pals want? A guaranteed minimum wage.

This is why you don't want guaranteed minimum wage because it doesn't compel employers to pay more.


Title: Re: Really Ivanka? Is that how Republicans see poor people?
Post by: YAX on April 03, 2019, 10:31:59 AM
YAX,

If poor people want a guaranteed minimum wage then why are they trying to raise it to $15?

I mean after all, they are guaranteed $7.25 as of now. Isn't that what YOU AND YOUR dummy pals want? A guaranteed minimum wage.

This is why you don't want guaranteed minimum wage because it doesn't compel employers to pay more.
You got that backwards.  Companies do pay more than minimum wage to some people.  The minimum just guarantees that workers don't make $10/day like they do in Thailand and Laos.  ;)
Title: Re: Really Ivanka? Is that how Republicans see poor people?
Post by: Believe_N_Me on April 03, 2019, 06:40:59 PM
You're a typical west coast dummy. How you found anything offensive in what Ivanka said says more about you then what it does about her.

Minimum wage is just that ----> minimum. It's entry-level pay for entry-level skills. Ivanka is CORRECT.

As people gain work experience and skills they become more marketable in the workplace. People typically start moving up to better paying jobs that require more skills.

You dummies are fighting for a wage that you have not earned when you demand a $15 minimum wage.
Title: Re: Really Ivanka? Is that how Republicans see poor people?
Post by: YAX on April 03, 2019, 09:17:28 PM
That's not what she said, BTW .
Title: Re: Really Ivanka? Is that how Republicans see poor people?
Post by: DuMa on April 04, 2019, 03:51:14 AM
Increasing the min wages will benefit the government.  Her father wants to build a wall but has no money for it.  He even wants other people to pay for it.  That is exactly what he is going to do.  Get your employers to pay you $15 an hour which then disqualified you for low income goodies.  This will save the government tons of money and with money, here comes your wall. 

The thing with trump is that he's an egotistical guy.  You think he wants to be your president because he needs money?  A whistle blower said recently that trump is a cheater in the game of golf.  He will do whatever it takes to win.  He is in the game to win, no matter what. 

Trump care is next.   Coming to you after the next election. 
Title: Re: Really Ivanka? Is that how Republicans see poor people?
Post by: Believe_N_Me on April 05, 2019, 05:08:48 AM
That's not what she said, BTW .

You find what she said offensive because you're looking to be offended. Candida growth in the vajayjay again?

What she said is correct.
Title: Re: Really Ivanka? Is that how Republicans see poor people?
Post by: YAX on April 05, 2019, 08:40:23 AM
You find what she said offensive because you're looking to be offended. Candida growth in the vajayjay again?

What she said is correct.
I take no offense to what she says.  I am offended that dumb people actually thinks she's correct and not only one or two dumb people, a bunch of dumb people and they call themselves Republicans.  There, I said it.  ;)