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Title: Hmong funerals: Church & Traditional
Post by: Giggles_Shyly on April 14, 2015, 10:53:19 AM
I couldn't find a topic that relate to what I want to know. Hope no one finds this topic conflicting.

Church goers & Traditional doers:

When people offer "Nyiaj Tu Siab" to the family.

a. Do you say "thank you" to the giver or to God/Jesus?
b. Do you still pull them aside and "Ua lawv tsaug"?
c. Do you still record their names down?

Giving should be about giving, right? Should people feel offended if they are not thanked?

Please share your thoughts and give advice to those who are curious such as me.





Title: Re: Hmong funerals: Church & Traditional
Post by: VillainousHero on April 14, 2015, 11:47:09 AM
I don't go to enough funerals...to see what's what.

I'm not offended, write my name and write the amount I gave, that's all that's needed.
Title: Re: Hmong funerals: Church & Traditional
Post by: Giggles_Shyly on April 14, 2015, 12:50:08 PM
But what if they don't write your name down or the amount you gave?
Title: Re: Hmong funerals: Church & Traditional
Post by: VillainousHero on April 14, 2015, 01:11:23 PM
But what if they don't write your name down or the amount you gave?

If they don't write your name down, it's because they be thieving and pocketing that money. 
Title: Re: Hmong funerals: Church & Traditional
Post by: chidorix0x on April 14, 2015, 01:25:03 PM
... kekeke ...  :idiot2:  ...  KEKEKE ...   :2funny:

Foremost, WTF is "Nyiaj Tu Siab"?  ... kekeke ...  ::)  ( Must b a HA'MUNG phrase,  belief, and practice ... KEKEKE ...  :D)
Title: Re: Hmong funerals: Church & Traditional
Post by: Giggles_Shyly on April 14, 2015, 01:25:05 PM
That could be too, but I have been to church and traditional funerals and noticed some church goers don't write down names.
Title: Re: Hmong funerals: Church & Traditional
Post by: Giggles_Shyly on April 14, 2015, 01:28:21 PM
... kekeke ...  :idiot2:  ...  KEKEKE ...   :2funny:

Foremost, WTF is "Nyiaj Tu Siab"?  ... kekeke ...  ::)  ( Must b a HA'MUNG phrase,  belief, and practice ... KEKEKE ...  :D)

LOL, not sure what you would call it. Nyiab pab, I guess? I am not familar with funerals much.
Title: Re: Hmong funerals: Church & Traditional
Post by: VillainousHero on April 14, 2015, 01:30:54 PM
Some people don't want their names written down.  So those can be excused.


All money has to be recorded.  Unless you've got a donation box upfront, that can always be added to the fund later.

Sometimes it's the newbie who doesn't know to record names and amounts down...
Title: Re: Hmong funerals: Church & Traditional
Post by: VillainousHero on April 14, 2015, 01:31:14 PM
LOL, not sure what you would call it. Nyiab pab, I guess? I am not familar with funerals much.

Sunshine money
Title: Re: Hmong funerals: Church & Traditional
Post by: theking on April 14, 2015, 03:07:40 PM
I couldn't find a topic that relate to what I want to know. Hope no one finds this topic conflicting.

Church goers & Traditional doers:

When people offer "Nyiaj Tu Siab" to the family.

a. Do you say "thank you" to the giver or to God/Jesus?
b. Do you still pull them aside and "Ua lawv tsaug"?
c. Do you still record their names down?

Giving should be about giving, right? Should people feel offended if they are not thanked?

Please share your thoughts and give advice to those who are curious such as me.

a. A simple thank you for paying your respect is fine...
b. No
c. Yes, for those that are OK so I can send them a thank you card later.

When I'm paying respect and the deceased's family member(s) come over to kneel and say thank you, I usually don't allow them to do that. I tell them a simple thank you is sufficient, no need to kneel.

If one of my family members died and I don't do the kneeling thank you either as it's not necessary in this day and age...

Different folks, different strokes but a simple thank you has worked for my family over the years with zero issue... O0

Should people feel offended if they are not thanked?

I'm not as I understand the family is going through a tough time so whether they thank me or not is not a big deal...
Title: Re: Hmong funerals: Church & Traditional
Post by: chidorix0x on April 14, 2015, 03:36:55 PM
a. A simple thank you  for paying your respect is fine...
b. No
c. Yes, for those that are OK so I can send them a thank you card later.

When I'm paying respect and the deceased's family member(s) come over to kneel and say thank you, I usually don't allow them to do that. I tell them a simple thank you is sufficient, no need to kneel.

If one of my family members died and I don't do the kneeling thank you either as it's not necessary in this day and age...

Different folks, different strokes but a simple thank you has worked for my family over the years with zero issue... O0

Should people feel offended if they are not thanked?

I'm not as I understand the family is going through a tough time so whether they thank me or not is not a big deal...

...  kekeke  ...   ;D

This day and age, this is definitively a HA'Mung practice   ...  KEKEKE  ...   >:D

(And for the record, I have never received a "Thank You Card" from a/any HA'Mung  nor has anyone else to my knowledge  ...  kekeke  ...   :idiot2:)

Different folks, the same HA'Mung  thus different, or the "same BS"  ...  KEKEKE  ...   ::)
Title: Re: Hmong funerals: Church & Traditional
Post by: theking on April 14, 2015, 07:01:02 PM
...  kekeke  ...   ;D

This day and age, this is definitively a HA'Mung practice   ...  KEKEKE  ...   >:D

(And for the record, I have never received a "Thank You Card" from a/any HA'Mung  nor has anyone else to my knowledge  ...  kekeke  ...   :idiot2:)

Different folks, the same HA'Mung  thus different, or the "same BS"  ...  KEKEKE  ...   ::)

Says the HA'Ruam that continues to be more and more Ruam. ;D
Title: Re: Hmong funerals: Church & Traditional
Post by: chidorix0x on April 14, 2015, 07:43:23 PM
Says the HA'Ruam that continues to be more and more Ruam. ;D

...  kekeke  ...   :2funny:

Says the ha'clueless HA'Mung that incessantly ha'rant to be more and more becoming HA'Mung ...  KEKEKE  ...   >:D
Title: Re: Hmong funerals: Church & Traditional
Post by: theking on April 14, 2015, 11:43:28 PM
...  kekeke  ...   :2funny:

Says the ha'clueless HA'Mung that incessantly ha'rant to be more and more becoming HA'Mung ...  KEKEKE  ...   >:D

Says the HA'Ruam that talk a lot of shitte but can't back up any of his "Ruam" BS claims...

For examples:

-HA'Ruam claimed that traditional Hmong marriages are "perfectly legal" but can't explain why the couples married that way still have to file paperworks at their local courthouse so their marriage can be legal..

-HA'Ruam claimed that bride kidnapping is not part of Hmong wedding custom but can't explain why so many Hmong have accepted it and got married just the same as the other wedding hitch methods for centuries now.

Trust me, HA'Ruam will continue to have nothing to back up his "Ruam" BS claims... ;D

Title: Re: Hmong funerals: Church & Traditional
Post by: chidorix0x on April 15, 2015, 01:58:37 AM
/\/\  ... kekeke ...   :2funny:

Says the ha'clueless HA'Mung that incessantly ha'rant to be more and more becoming HA'Mung ...  KEKEKE  ...   >:D
Title: Re: Hmong funerals: Church & Traditional
Post by: theking on April 15, 2015, 09:32:17 AM
/\/\  ... kekeke ...   :2funny:

Says the ha'clueless HA'Mung that incessantly ha'rant to be more and more becoming HA'Mung ...  KEKEKE  ...   >:D

Yep, I'm right again!!! HA'Ruam still has nothing except for his BS babbling...

Again, HA'Ruam still won't have anything when he replies again. Trust me!;D
Title: Re: Hmong funerals: Church & Traditional
Post by: Giggles_Shyly on April 15, 2015, 10:39:30 AM
Another question:

What do people do with the "sunshine money" once it has been collected and accounted for?

Funeral costs? Shared among relatives as a memory of the deceased? The wife/hunsband keeps it all?

Title: Re: Hmong funerals: Church & Traditional
Post by: VillainousHero on April 15, 2015, 12:44:35 PM
Goes to the immediate family for funeral burdens - supposedly first son/daughter whoever takes charge.

The relatives better not be trying to skim some of it....although I've heard rumors of some relatives...
Title: Re: Hmong funerals: Church & Traditional
Post by: Giggles_Shyly on April 15, 2015, 01:02:40 PM
Very informative, ty.

How about the cows? Does every cow that is butchered used for food only and why so many cows? I just don't understand about the number of cows.
Title: Re: Hmong funerals: Church & Traditional
Post by: chidorix0x on April 15, 2015, 01:50:55 PM
Yep, I'm right again!!! HA'Ruam still has nothing except for his BS babbling...

Again, HA'Ruam still won't have anything when he replies again. Trust me!;D

... kekeke ...   :2funny:

Says the ha'clueless HA'Mung that incessantly ha'rant to be more and more becoming HA'Mung ...  KEKEKE  ...   >:D
Title: Re: Hmong funerals: Church & Traditional
Post by: theking on April 15, 2015, 02:11:31 PM
... kekeke ...   :2funny:

Says the ha'clueless HA'Mung that incessantly ha'rant to be more and more becoming HA'Mung ...  KEKEKE  ...   >:D

Still nothing from HA'Ruam except his BS babbling..,.No wonder all of those PH'ers labeled you "Ruam"... ;D
Title: Re: Hmong funerals: Church & Traditional
Post by: MovKuam on April 17, 2015, 03:04:09 PM
...  kekeke  ...   ;D

This day and age, this is definitively a HA'Mung practice   ...  KEKEKE  ...   >:D

(And for the record, I have never received a "Thank You Card" from a/any HA'Mung  nor has anyone else to my knowledge  ...  kekeke  ...   :idiot2:)

Different folks, the same HA'Mung  thus different, or the "same BS"  ...  KEKEKE  ...   ::)


Reason, they will have to spend money on stamps and postcards to send it to you so NO no wasting money there got it  ;D
Title: Re: Hmong funerals: Church & Traditional
Post by: MovKuam on April 17, 2015, 03:07:22 PM
Very informative, ty.

How about the cows? Does every cow that is butchered used for food only and why so many cows? I just don't understand about the number of cows.

More than half of the cow meat suppose to use for meal. The rest divide to those whom involved. Like the cow killer  ;D etc
Title: Re: Hmong funerals: Church & Traditional
Post by: chidorix0x on April 18, 2015, 03:14:46 PM
More than half of the cow meat suppose to use for meal. The rest divide to those whom involved. Like the cow killer   ;D etc

...  kekeke  ...   :2funny:

Not true (more than half, or one could even say 3/4, of the cow goes to the funeral rites team: Txiv Qeej, Kav Xwm etc.);  not towards the daily meals  ...  KEKEKE  ...   >:D

I am a "cow killer" or "am involved" a lot of the times and get nothing except blood stained clothing etc.  ...  kekeke  ...   ::)
Title: Re: Hmong funerals: Church & Traditional
Post by: chidorix0x on April 18, 2015, 03:21:51 PM

Reason, they will have to spend money on stamps and postcards to send it to you  so NO no wasting money there got it  ;D

...  kekeke  ...   :2funny:

But according to the ha'clueless HA'Mung  they do send "Thank You Cards"  ...  KEKEKE  ...   :idiot2:  (See QUOTE)

QUOTE "c. Yes, for those that are OK so I can send them a thank you card later."  UNQUOTE   ...  kekeke  ...   ::)
Title: Re: Hmong funerals: Church & Traditional
Post by: theking on April 21, 2015, 06:50:58 PM


I am a "cow killer" or "am involved" a lot of the times and get nothing except blood stained clothing etc.  ...  kekeke  ...   ::)

That's because you're a HA'RUAM.. ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Hmong funerals: Church & Traditional
Post by: theking on April 21, 2015, 06:52:25 PM

Reason, they will have to spend money on stamps and postcards to send it to you so NO no wasting money there got it  ;D

Right especially when money is wasted on a HA'RUAM... O0
Title: Re: Hmong funerals: Church & Traditional
Post by: chidorix0x on April 21, 2015, 07:08:20 PM
/\/\  ...  kekeke  ...   :2funny:

Says the ha'clueless HA'Mung  that incessantly ha'rant  to be more and more becoming HA'Mung ...  KEKEKE  ...    >:D
Title: Re: Hmong funerals: Church & Traditional
Post by: MovKuam on April 23, 2015, 01:33:09 PM
...  kekeke  ...   :2funny:

But according to the ha'clueless HA'Mung  they do send "Thank You Cards"  ...  KEKEKE  ...   :idiot2:  (See QUOTE)

QUOTE "c. Yes, for those that are OK so I can send them a thank you card later."  UNQUOTE   ...  kekeke  ...   ::)


You got lied  ;D
Title: Re: Hmong funerals: Church & Traditional
Post by: yuknowthat on May 04, 2015, 06:08:15 PM
Pab nyiaj tshav ntuj? they record it down for the immediate families of the deceased. Kom nco luag txiaj luag ntsig tias muaj lawv tuaj pab yus. And also paper trail.