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Title: The Sentinelese
Post by: Believe_N_Me on November 29, 2018, 10:14:04 PM
In no way am I saying that they don't have a right to defend their island. What I am saying is that they are a good representation of how ancient tribal people must've been.

The world was not a friendly place. The people were not friendly. ----> This is what liberals are defending.

They are delusional if they think it was peaceful.

Funny thing is they want to protect this way of life for tribal people but they simply cannot let Conservatives be conservative.

We, too, just want to be left alone like the Sentinelese. Stop invading our spaces, our schools, our businesses, our minds, our beliefs, our values, and so on with your perverted worldview.
Title: Re: The Sentinelese
Post by: hmgROCK on November 29, 2018, 10:21:23 PM
Read their history
They try to be friendly
Got kidnap by explorers

These people used to be friendly
Until the white man starts fawk them


Just like the native Americans and them corns
Title: Re: The Sentinelese
Post by: theking on November 29, 2018, 11:09:31 PM


In no way am I saying that they don't have a right to defend their island. What I am saying is that they are a good representation of how ancient tribal people must've been.

The world was not a friendly place. The people were not friendly. ----> This is what liberals are defending.

They are delusional if they think it was peaceful.

Funny thing is they want to protect this way of life for tribal people but they simply cannot let Conservatives be conservative.

We, too, just want to be left alone like the Sentinelese. Stop invading our spaces, our schools, our businesses, our minds, our beliefs, our values, and so on with your perverted worldview.

Read their history
They try to be friendly
Got kidnap by explorers

These people used to be friendly
Until the white man starts fawk them


Just like the native Americans and them corns

LOVE IT!!! ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: The Sentinelese
Post by: theking on November 29, 2018, 11:10:34 PM

Until the white man starts fawk them

Says the FRAUD that claimed, "I never cuss".... ;D ;D :idiot2:
Title: Re: The Sentinelese
Post by: Believe_N_Me on November 29, 2018, 11:19:29 PM
Read their history
They try to be friendly
Got kidnap by explorers

These people used to be friendly
Until the white man starts fawk them


Just like the native Americans and them corns

Did I not say that I support their right to defend themselves? That's not even the point, idiot. I'm saying that decades of isolation leave these people simply savage. They haven't flourished at all. And don't give me that "well maybe they prefer it that way" - crap. What else would they prefer if they don't have options? They aren't Amish people who are surrounded by all sorts of communities but choose to live an austere life.

Either way, it just shows how savage people were.
Title: Re: The Sentinelese
Post by: Believe_N_Me on November 29, 2018, 11:31:55 PM
Btw, you being a Wisconsinite and complaining about white people is the most hilarious thing.  :2funny: :2funny: :2funny: :2funny: :2funny: :2funny: :2funny: :2funny: :2funny: :2funny: :2funny: :2funny: :2funny: :2funny: :2funny: :2funny: :2funny: :2funny: :2funny: :2funny: :2funny: :2funny: :2funny:
Title: Re: The Sentinelese
Post by: Dok_Champa on November 30, 2018, 09:52:49 AM
People are savage when there's no trust.  The first step to building trust is respecting the cultures/values of the people you're encountering. 

That missionary he didn't do that.  I understand he wanted to share the gospel but he was "rushing" almost like "forcing" down on them. 

Sometimes the best way to share the gospel is not what we say but what we do, how we act, our actions, our words etc..  Perhaps he should have just done that... like the previous person who contacted the Sentinelese..w ho brought gifts..   Do good deeds... slowly bring them gifts...gifts they need.  Ex:  it looks like they wear loin cloths  which means they use fabric..  why not bring gifts of fabric.....  or maybe they have a leather strap...why not bring leather..somet hing they're familiar use it on a daily basis...  Perhaps over time, the relationship deepen and he can share he's able to love others because God first love him... simple message...

As a Christian, we think we have the power to convert people but we don't.  Only God can change a person's heart.  Also, what we say means little but our actions, words, behaviors means more.  Something to think about. 
Title: Re: The Sentinelese
Post by: mind-teaser on November 30, 2018, 10:13:31 AM
Did I not say that I support their right to defend themselves? That's not even the point, idiot. I'm saying that decades of isolation leave these people simply savage. They haven't flourished at all. And don't give me that "well maybe they prefer it that way" - crap. What else would they prefer if they don't have options? They aren't Amish people who are surrounded by all sorts of communities but choose to live an austere life.

Either way, it just shows how savage people were.


The word "savage" doesn't sits well with me.  Why is that those who "THINK" they had developed something beyond a bow and arrow gets to label those who simply just prefer a simpler life?  Those who can KILL with MWD are consider "ADVANCED/CIVILIZED" and whereas those who kill bows and arrows are "SAVAGES"?  It's amazes me how human had evolved backward.  Sib ntsib dua nawb.
Title: Re: The Sentinelese
Post by: mind-teaser on November 30, 2018, 10:19:35 AM
People are savage when there's no trust.  The first step to building trust is respecting the cultures/values of the people you're encountering. 




Good point!
Title: Re: The Sentinelese
Post by: Mr_Mechanic on November 30, 2018, 10:57:17 AM
How can there be trust when arrows are flying at you before your feet even get wet?  Are you suppose to set off white smoke from your boat 200, 300 yards away meaning, you come in peace.  yeah, right.  Point is, those people don't want anything to do with you, I, or anybody else.  Leave them be.  going there and you're asking for it.
Title: Re: The Sentinelese
Post by: Dok_Champa on November 30, 2018, 11:16:41 AM
How can there be trust when arrows are flying at you before your feet even get wet?  Are you suppose to set off white smoke from your boat 200, 300 yards away meaning, you come in peace.  yeah, right.  Point is, those people don't want anything to do with you, I, or anybody else.  Leave them be.  going there and you're asking for it.
It's a risk but if a person is very persistent.... need to build trust.  People have different ways how to do that.  Maybe "drone" in supplies ;D ;D ;D Or " "float" in supplies... and trust takes time... you move "inch by inch".. ..and This Missionary, he doesn't even have to preach.. He can just do his normal thing like praying, reading the bible... and later on if people are curious, he can explains and if not, let it be. 
Title: Re: The Sentinelese
Post by: Mr_Mechanic on November 30, 2018, 11:22:51 AM
It's a risk but if a person is very persistent.... need to build trust.  People have different ways how to do that.  Maybe "drone" in supplies ;D ;D ;D Or " "float" in supplies... and trust takes time... you move "inch by inch".. ..and This Missionary, he doesn't even have to preach.. He can just do his normal thing like praying, reading the bible... and later on if people are curious, he can explains and if not, let it be.
I first read about them about two years ago.  And from that, I conclude it's best to stay away.  They're not hurting me.  And that's all I have to say about that.
Title: Re: The Sentinelese
Post by: Dok_Champa on November 30, 2018, 11:26:05 AM
I do believe that some group make it a "choice" to stay hidden and that means they don't want to be bothered.  They know or is aware of the "outside" world.
Title: Re: The Sentinelese
Post by: Mr_Mechanic on November 30, 2018, 11:29:35 AM
I do believe that some group make it a "choice" to stay hidden and that means they don't want to be bothered.  They know or is aware of the "outside" world.
but how do they know?  for example, does the sentinelese have TV's with fox or cnn news, high speed internet....WA IT!!!  You're not one of them are you??
Title: Re: The Sentinelese
Post by: Dok_Champa on November 30, 2018, 12:00:14 PM
but how do they know?  for example, does the sentinelese have TV's with fox or cnn news, high speed internet....WA IT!!!  You're not one of them are you??
When I say they know or is aware of the "outside" world, I mean they know there are "others" different from them.  In the case of the Sentinelese, I'm sure they've seen boats, ship passing through which indicate life has evolve from their small canoe to something bigger which means the outside world will be very different from their own.. They've seen strange looking men w/ various skin color(s) passing through.. Just because they live on the Island doesn't mean they don't see anything.  They silently witness strange things/objects/people passing through the Island.  They are the silent observer and they can tell it's different from their cultures, life, etc...

Oh yes, I'm not one of them but using common sense...
Title: Re: The Sentinelese
Post by: DuMa on December 03, 2018, 08:24:18 AM
I can solve this problem with one move. 

Since there are only a few of them, kill them all so others can not get hurt. 

Now who's the barbaric Savage here?
Title: Re: The Sentinelese
Post by: Vandal Savage on December 06, 2018, 08:38:41 AM
Did I not say that I support their right to defend themselves? That's not even the point, idiot. I'm saying that decades of isolation leave these people simply savage. They haven't flourished at all. And don't give me that "well maybe they prefer it that way" - crap. What else would they prefer if they don't have options? They aren't Amish people who are surrounded by all sorts of communities but choose to live an austere life.

Either way, it just shows how savage people were.

Increasing savagery is a reactive behavior modification through repeated negative shaping; these damn outsiders trying to impose their will and ways upon natives. 

I agree, why can't people just leave each other alone?   
Title: Re: The Sentinelese
Post by: Believe_N_Me on December 16, 2018, 01:48:27 AM
People are savage when there's no trust.  The first step to building trust is respecting the cultures/values of the people you're encountering. 

That missionary he didn't do that.  I understand he wanted to share the gospel but he was "rushing" almost like "forcing" down on them. 

Sometimes the best way to share the gospel is not what we say but what we do, how we act, our actions, our words etc..  Perhaps he should have just done that... like the previous person who contacted the Sentinelese..w ho brought gifts..   Do good deeds... slowly bring them gifts...gifts they need.  Ex:  it looks like they wear loin cloths  which means they use fabric..  why not bring gifts of fabric.....  or maybe they have a leather strap...why not bring leather..somet hing they're familiar use it on a daily basis...  Perhaps over time, the relationship deepen and he can share he's able to love others because God first love him... simple message...

As a Christian, we think we have the power to convert people but we don't.  Only God can change a person's heart.  Also, what we say means little but our actions, words, behaviors means more.  Something to think about.

If people have to approach someone in a specific way without being killed then guess what? That someone is "savage".
Title: Re: The Sentinelese
Post by: Believe_N_Me on December 16, 2018, 01:51:15 AM

The word "savage" doesn't sits well with me.  Why is that those who "THINK" they had developed something beyond a bow and arrow gets to label those who simply just prefer a simpler life?  Those who can KILL with MWD are consider "ADVANCED/CIVILIZED" and whereas those who kill bows and arrows are "SAVAGES"?  It's amazes me how human had evolved backward.  Sib ntsib dua nawb.

You can feel whatever you want but that is the appropriate word to use according to the definition in Merriam-Webster.
Title: Re: The Sentinelese
Post by: Believe_N_Me on December 16, 2018, 01:52:59 AM
Increasing savagery is a reactive behavior modification through repeated negative shaping; these damn outsiders trying to impose their will and ways upon natives. 

I agree, why can't people just leave each other alone?

But they weren't just savage in how they responded to the foreigner. I'm talking about the way they live.
Title: Re: The Sentinelese
Post by: Visualmon on December 17, 2018, 02:31:09 AM
Read their history
They try to be friendly
Got kidnap by explorers

These people used to be friendly
Until the white man starts fawk them


Just like the native Americans and them corns

 ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D