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Life & Living => Faith & Beliefs => Topic started by: TheAfterLife on April 02, 2018, 04:31:14 PM
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Yes, you can. As long Shaman is out.
I agree to what Mottel Baleston to what he says since he's a Jew and comes from a Jewish background. You can still be Hmong, Jew, or what not; yet, you can carry Jesus with you all the time...
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Dude, why havent you pass the word out. So many people want to burn hmong cultural icons and they are missing the point.
Also you cant be an israelite or any of the lost tribes. Lol
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Christianities have qualities/beliefs which are fundamentally anti-Hmong... When trying to merge the two, you get the Meo result. And so no, you are not Hmong anymore, but a buck Meo.
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Christianities have qualities/beliefs which are fundamentally anti-Hmong... When trying to merge the two, you get the Meo result. And so no, you are not Hmong anymore, but a buck Meo.
Agreed.. catholics beliefs share more common grounds with hmongs.
Most christians are dumb.. honestly, you take a white mans religion and make it yours. Then you claimed to be descedents of israelites, and god is truly, then you talk shit about hkong culture as if they spit on you and you debounces the hmong cultures. So dumb...
Shamanism is not a religion, it is thr practice of healing...
So you can be a shaman and a christian..
So many uninform christians.... get out of here..
You get sick, better call pastor salad and god, dont go to the doctor because that will contridicte your beliefs..
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What is Hmong culture?
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Well, the point is, you can still have a Hmong culture and have Jesus with you.
Where have you been... pass the word out... too many people begun to burning hmong cultural objects.. whats next? Hmong clothing because the dead wear it.. lol.. might as well burn the suit too..dead ppls wear that too..lol
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What is Hmong culture?
Youre hmong...
Youre hmong, you go to the new year and ball toss..
You listen to elders tell ghost stories.. and sew and learn to cook.. play the qeej and sing songs of love...
Write poetry and do a hmong rap poetry.. mr. Greencard did it n it was a hit..lol
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Youre hmong...
Youre hmong, you go to the new year and ball toss..
You listen to elders tell ghost stories.. and sew and learn to cook.. play the qeej and sing songs of love...
Write poetry and do a hmong rap poetry.. mr. Greencard did it n it was a hit..lol
I don't do any of that, sorry. :2funny:
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I don't do any of that, sorry. :2funny:
Dude, you need to get out more and try it for once..lol..
You married or single?
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Agreed.. catholics beliefs share more common grounds with hmongs.
Most christians are dumb.. honestly, you take a white mans religion and make it yours. Then you claimed to be descedents of israelites, and god is truly, then you talk shit about hkong culture as if they spit on you and you debounces the hmong cultures. So dumb...
Shamanism is not a religion, it is thr practice of healing...
So you can be a shaman and a christian..
So many uninform christians.... get out of here..
You get sick, better call pastor salad and god, dont go to the doctor because that will contridicte your beliefs..
It's not a white man's religion. If you study its history, you'll find that it all started back in the Mesopotamia regions.
There are several theories to how the Hmong people originate and the Mesopotamia theory is one of them.
In my theory, the Chinese would have been post Flood and were descendants from one of Noah's great grandson, Ham.
Genesis 10:15 And Canaan begat Sidon his firstborn, and Heth,
Genesis 10:16 And the Jebusite, and the Amorite, and the Girgasite,
Genesis 10:17 And the Hivite, and the Arkite, and the Sinite,
http://www.icr.org/article/how-can-chinese-dynasties-extend-back-many-thousan/ (http://www.icr.org/article/how-can-chinese-dynasties-extend-back-many-thousan/)
Just my two cents.
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It's not a white man's religion. If you study its history, you'll find that it all started back in the Mesopotamia regions.
There are several theories to how the Hmong people originate and the Mesopotamia theory is one of them.
In my theory, the Chinese would have been post Flood and were descendants from one of Noah's great grandson, Ham.
Genesis 10:15 And Canaan begat Sidon his firstborn, and Heth,
Genesis 10:16 And the Jebusite, and the Amorite, and the Girgasite,
Genesis 10:17 And the Hivite, and the Arkite, and the Sinite,
http://www.icr.org/article/how-can-chinese-dynasties-extend-back-many-thousan/ (http://www.icr.org/article/how-can-chinese-dynasties-extend-back-many-thousan/)
Just my two cents.
Of course christianity is not a whites man religion. It is sure aint a hmong religion thats for sure.
Christian derived from the sumerian gods and latef from the egyptian gods. If you want to get deeper, then go you will find oit that the truth is bee sting and it hurts.
Yeng, you are still qouting the bible??? I will not qoute from the us history books because it was written for the whites.
You are still very delusion...hmo ngs didnt come from mesopotamia.. how foolish can a person be.
I bet you will probably claim that hmongs are one of the lost tribes of israel.. get out of here... hebrew text never mention hmongs, miao, asian nomads.. the closest thing to thr middle east was sanscript from tibet and mongols invasion.
Man, if you qoute from the bible, it just shows that you are just an outcast trying to get noriety..
Yeng, come back to being hmong. We love you and we believe in god, but we know that christianity was given to us and it wasnt our religion to begin with...
You know whats funny..
The creator isnt as crazy as his believers and that is the crazy thing
For example,
I shout trump.. and you cheer..
I say blacks are smarter than white people and you/whites booed,
Then i shout trump, then you/whites cheer.. lol..
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Christian derived from the sumerian gods and latef from the egyptian gods. If you want to get deeper, then go you will find oit that the truth is bee sting and it hurts.
Genesis 10:10 And the beginning of his kingdom was Babel, and Erech, and Accad, and Calneh, in the land of Shinar.
Look up "Erech" and do a word search in the Hebrew. You will find that Erech (Erek) is actually the Sumerian and later became a city of Babylonia.
https://www.britannica.com/place/Erech (https://www.britannica.com/place/Erech)
Read the context of Genesis 10 and you will see that Sumerian came from Noah's great grandson Nimrod who started the empire.
Look at it this way. When you actually look at the gods of Egypt and the monotheism of the Israelites and the revelation of YHWH there is no sort of comparison at all.
You are still very delusion...hmo ngs didnt come from mesopotamia.. how foolish can a person be. I bet you will probably claim that hmongs are one of the lost tribes of israel.. get out of here... hebrew text never mention hmongs, miao, asian nomads.. the closest thing to thr middle east was sanscript from tibet and mongols invasion.
The Tower of Babel is one of the main arguments for the difference of races on earth.
"The Chinese are descendants of these original Sinites and most call themselves “Han,” from Ham, one of Noah’s three sons. China in ancient times was called the land of the Sinites. This name is still used and the Bible even calls this distant land the land of Sinim (ISAIAH 49:12). Not all people in China are Sinites though. There are several people groups that made it to China. One group, the Maio people, have their ancestry through Noah’s son Japheth and his son Gomer. But let’s remember that all people in the world are descendants of Adam—which is why all people are sinners in need of salvation through Christ."
https://answersingenesis.org/kids/bible/babel/where-do-chinese-come-from/ (https://answersingenesis.org/kids/bible/babel/where-do-chinese-come-from/)
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"The Miao tribes, or as it is spelled in most encyclopedias "Miautso," at one time occupied most of inland China south of the Yangtze River, but have been gradually driven into the mountains of the southwest by the better-armed and better-organized Chinese. The Miao of our section claim to have been driven out of Kiangsi Province."
"The Miao did not originally worship idols, but learned this from the Chinese after having been subdued by them. This poem, which is learned by heart and transmitted from generation to generation, is translated and brought to you with the hope that you will be inspired to PRAY MUCH for these people. They evidently once knew the true God. Pray that they may learn to know Him as Father, and Jesus, whom He has sent to be the Way back to Him."
Seems like the Hmong used to believe in yer shao or whatever they used to believe then. lol.
http://www.icr.org/article/genesis-according-miao-people/ (http://www.icr.org/article/genesis-according-miao-people/)
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Dont fall for the vwjtxheej rovtaw tuam ntuj decievers tricks. He blatantly cited a biased christian website hoping nobody would notice. If hes being disingenuous then i would actually think he has some grey matters upstairs. But if he truly believes that fiction then wow, hes even more wacky than one other christian (theafterlife)in here.
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"The Miao tribes, or as it is spelled in most encyclopedias "Miautso," at one time occupied most of inland China south of the Yangtze River, but have been gradually driven into the mountains of the southwest by the better-armed and better-organized Chinese. The Miao of our section claim to have been driven out of Kiangsi Province."
"The Miao did not originally worship idols, but learned this from the Chinese after having been subdued by them. This poem, which is learned by heart and transmitted from generation to generation, is translated and brought to you with the hope that you will be inspired to PRAY MUCH for these people. They evidently once knew the true God. Pray that they may learn to know Him as Father, and Jesus, whom He has sent to be the Way back to Him."
Seems like the Hmong used to believe in yer shao or whatever they used to believe then. lol.
http://www.icr.org/article/genesis-according-miao-people/ (http://www.icr.org/article/genesis-according-miao-people/)
And we still do... yawg saub for life...
So much for you to learn my young apprentice.
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I've been listening to a lot of Hmong storytellers online. Through the stories I've learned so much about Hmong culture, customs, practices and Hmong spiritual beliefs. My conclusion is that Shamanism, while interesting, is nothing but playing with fire by tapping into the unknown spiritual world. Even if a shaman could do all those things it's still dangerous to open portals. The Hmong should be informed that they needn't engage with unknown and often times diabolical spirits. Doing so only leads to a never-ending lifetime of having to deal with them. The Creator loves them and it is better that they go directly to Him.
Before the Word was made known to the Hmong, they were left to use the old ways. But now that they have heard the Word, they should rejoice and be glad in it. They have been liberated!
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Before the Word was made known to the Hmong, they were left to use the old ways. But now that they have heard the Word, they should rejoice and be glad in it. They have been liberated!
I know right? Thats why mormons have booths at hmong soccer tournaments to liberate people with the true teachings. Pretty sure the CMA, Baptist and even Catholic Meos are very happy with this.
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I know right? Thats why mormons have booths at hmong soccer tournaments to liberate people with the true teachings. Pretty sure the CMA, Baptist and even Catholic Meos are very happy with this.
Why are you so threatened by Hmong Mormons opening their own booth at tournaments? I could care less if 50 more denominations emerge. We are all put to the task of finding the truth. Nobody will find it for you. The Good Shepherd knows His sheep and His sheep knows him.
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Why are you so threatened by Hmong Mormons opening their own booth at tournaments? I could care less if 50 more denominations emerge. We are all put to the task of finding the truth. Nobody will find it for you. The Good Shepherd knows His sheep and His sheep knows him.
Not sure why you wouldnt be threatened by mormons, especially if you believe your brand is the correct path. Many other non mormons are indeed threatened and critical of them, as evidenced by a thread in this forum,,,, unless youre a mromon then that would answer it.
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Not sure why you wouldnt be threatened by mormons, especially if you believe your brand is the correct path. Many other non mormons are indeed threatened and critical of them, as evidenced by a thread in this forum,,,, unless youre a mromon then that would answer it.
I'm not Mormon and I don't find their booth at soccer tournaments a threat.
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Not sure why you wouldnt be threatened by mormons, especially if you believe your brand is the correct path. Many other non mormons are indeed threatened and critical of them, as evidenced by a thread in this forum,,,, unless youre a mromon then that would answer it.
The Mormons has two Testament. The Bible and also the Book of Mormons. Keep that in mind.
According to Mormons, we are children of God even before we we're born into this world. However, according to the Bible one cannot be a child of God prior to accepting salvation (adoption). You see, if we are born children of God then EACH of us would have no need of a savior and would all have to be subject to the conditions Adam and Eve were, as they did in order to require a savior (Christ) in our lives. You go explain that to the Mormons and see what they tell you.
Furthermore, Mormonism hinges on the idea that Jesus, Satan, and us are brothers because we're all spiritual children, even the angels were sons of God, so that makes us all one big family. But, until you get past these notions of exaltation to godhood Mormons have been indoctrinated into, it's not going to get far using the Bible because Mormons down plays the Bible favoring their other Testament using it when it suits them mostly to gain naive Christian converts into their cult.
This is why.
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Dont fall for the vwjtxheej rovtaw tuam ntuj decievers tricks. He blatantly cited a biased christian website hoping nobody would notice. If hes being disingenuous then i would actually think he has some grey matters upstairs. But if he truly believes that fiction then wow, hes even more wacky than one other christian (theafterlife)in here.
You dont even know what biased is if u think that christian website is baised??
prob dont even know how to tell bias from real wit cho dumb***
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It doesn't take a genius to see that basically the Mormons used Christianity's own playbook on itself. The Mormons is to Christianity what Christianity is to Judaism.
I'm not a Jewish, so how could I know? Jesus was a Jew but He founded Christianity. They're OT scripture. However, Judiasm is far closer to the scriptures than Mormonism. Mormonism and Christianity are two different religions.
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Mormonism borrowed and tamper the Christian bible so many times; yet, they refuse so stubbornly that they are wrong. The founder was a crazy white cult British man who found an angel rather than God. Angel didn't make man; God did. So why believe it with the lack of evidence of science and philosophy of reasons?faith It's nothing but LIES!
Shall we watch another video debate between a mormon vs. Christians again?