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General Category => General Discussion => Topic started by: hmgROCK on June 07, 2018, 02:42:08 PM
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anti religion guy here
your hmong atheist
man, going be hard to explain this at church day
for science
https://www.cnn.com/2018/06/07/us/nasa-mars-curiosity-rover-findings/index.html (https://www.cnn.com/2018/06/07/us/nasa-mars-curiosity-rover-findings/index.html)
Organic matter has been found on Mars in soil samples taken from 3 billion-year-old mudstone in the Gale crater by the Curiosity rover, NASA announced Thursday. The rover has also detected methane in the Martian atmosphere.
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i always say we need to stop believing in this non sense
make believe stuff
and go with a fact base evidence
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It just needs the right sunlight and then "boom!", life exists!
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most already know this but most still choose to believe in the lord. Not because we're naive and blind, but because we still believe in hope for humanity.
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most already know this but most still choose to believe in the lord. Not because we're naive and blind, but because we still believe in hope for humanity.
The die hard one
They really think we live in a sphere
And nothing exists outside
It just seems sooo childish to me
Kinda like Santa
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It just needs the right sunlight and then "boom!", life exists!
Remember in biology class
Where we look at water from the local river
And daymeeeeeeee
There sooooo many micro life under the scope
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Good lord...you take a course in high school and you know all there is to know. You read a news article and that is proof. ;D ;D ;D ;D I see no evidence against God. All I see is organic matter found on Mars...then I also see...needs to be verified because instrumentatio n error and SNR can be a problem. Also, scientists and engineers are not perfect...incl uding PhD level ones. Yes they make mistakes...all the time.
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Good lord...you take a course in high school and you know all there is to know. You read a news article and that is proof. ;D ;D ;D ;D I see no evidence against God. All I see is organic matter found on Mars...then I also see...needs to be verified because instrumentatio n error and SNR can be a problem. Also, scientists and engineers are not perfect...incl uding PhD level ones. Yes they make mistakes...all the time.
If I see dead stuff (organic)
And me being 100% reasonably
I’m going have to say
Something die there
Something once live
You don’t just find a dinosaur bone in your backyard
After I eat a chicken
There left over bones
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i always say we need to stop believing in this non sense
make believe stuff
and go with a fact base evidence
I know right ...like believing in guns can shoot and kill all by itself *without any* human interactions/actions such as it can load up bullets in its own chamber, aim and shoot all by itself.."nonsense".. ;D ;D ;D
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Says the same people that tells you that we are a kazillion light years away from the next green looking dirt in the sky.
Why say kazillion and not kabillion? Either way, whatever they say, we get an idiot buying this news all the time.
Think about this for a minute here. How the hell you measure a kabillion light years anyway?
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Read that article again or go straight to the last paragraph.
Are there signs of life on Mars?" asked Michael Meyer, lead scientist for the Mars Exploration Program at NASA Headquarters. "We don't know,
Oh snap, they found something but when asked if there is life on Mars, they say they don't know.
Oh I get it. Took them almost 50 years just to say I don't know but give us 500 millions more dollars for research and we will find an idiot who still is hopeful on this news.
I'll save you billions so hear me out. The digging was at a crator. Bodies out there exploded all the time and these fragments with alien organic compounds would fly around as meteor and astroroids. They would hit other bodies in the universe. It hits Mars and the moon and us earth but by the grace of God, we had the right condition to make these alien compounds to come alive.
There you go. Eat my fake story too you gullible droids.
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Yeah. In my college biology class, we went out to the streams and netted many life forms. Zooplanktons, hydras, etc.
Remember in biology class
Where we look at water from the local river
And daymeeeeeeee
There sooooo many micro life under the scope
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If I see dead stuff (organic)
And me being 100% reasonably
I’m going have to say
Something die there
Something once live
You don’t just find a dinosaur bone in your backyard
After I eat a chicken
There left over bones
Organic molecules contain carbon and hydrogen, and also may include oxygen, nitrogen and other elements. While commonly associated with life, organic molecules also can be created by non-biological processes and are not necessarily indicators of life.
See that? That's complexity and randomness at play allowing patterns to emerge. The whole debate about how God and life is centered around the notions of complexity and randomness. Through randomness and complexity the conditions for the beginnings of life would emerge life itself. How else can life begin if you are an atheist?!?!? So finding organic molecular structure over 99% of the time is fake because the perturbation is mostly head fake. This is sound reasoning based upon sound technical knowledge and understanding. Otherwise, if the percentage was any higher, new life form would be popping up all over the place, and this new life form could be highly dangerous to us. Right now mutation is very slow mutations found in MRSA is killing people...we are racing against mutation because one day a mutation within a harmless bacteria that lives among us will mutate into a killer like the plague. Kaboom we all dead...Lucky for us what we have known so far is micro evolution and not macro evolution where an entire spectrum of species mutates... Think RED SUN on superman. ;D ;D ;D
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Two very early in development concepts to help us:
1) Complexity Sciences
2) Emergence Theory
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See that? That's complexity and randomness at play allowing patterns to emerge. The whole debate about how God and life is centered around the notions of complexity and randomness. Through randomness and complexity the conditions for the beginnings of life would emerge life itself. How else can life begin if you are an atheist?!?!? So finding organic molecular structure over 99% of the time is fake because the perturbation is mostly head fake. This is sound reasoning based upon sound technical knowledge and understanding. Otherwise, if the percentage was any higher, new life form would be popping up all over the place, and this new life form could be highly dangerous to us. Right now mutation is very slow mutations found in MRSA is killing people...we are racing against mutation because one day a mutation within a harmless bacteria that lives among us will mutate into a killer like the plague. Kaboom we all dead...Lucky for us what we have known so far is micro evolution and not macro evolution where an entire spectrum of species mutates... Think RED SUN on superman. ;D ;D ;D
when i tell my die hard christian family/friend/etc...
you know what they tell me?
they say it's all fake
it's all being tape and film somewhere in the desert like new mexico or something
and that we can't even go out into space cause it's all sphere up
nothing leaves the sphere
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when i tell my die hard christian family/friend/etc...
you know what they tell me?
they say it's all fake
it's all being tape and film somewhere in the desert like new mexico or something
and that we can't even go out into space cause it's all sphere up
nothing leaves the sphere
There goes your problem.
Stop asking your Christian family and start asking other people's family to gain better knowledge.
Science Don't make a conclusion. Even a science book gets updated with version 2.1 because why? It is because science gets debunked by other science news with given times.
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There goes your problem.
Stop asking your Christian family and start asking other people's family to gain better knowledge.
Science Don't make a conclusion. Even a science book gets updated with version 2.1 because why? It is because science gets debunked by other science news with given times.
Naw
I don’t ask them for advice
Too crazy
Eat pork and drink tons of beer
Than go ask for forgiveness every Sunday
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Says the same people that tells you that we are a kazillion light years away from the next green looking dirt in the sky.
Why say kazillion and not kabillion? Either way, whatever they say, we get an idiot buying this news all the time.
Think about this for a minute here. How the hell you measure a kabillion light years anyway?
You can't, because it doesn't exist.
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If I see dead stuff (organic)
And me being 100% reasonably
I’m going have to say
Something die there
Something once live
You don’t just find a dinosaur bone in your backyard
After I eat a chicken
There left over bones
Two things. First, that's not how "science" and/or the the scientific method works.
Second, what you have here is a false dichotomy. There's not only two answers here. There are many reasons why organic matter was found there. Your first premise is what makes your argument fail. You assume that the organic matter originated from there without having any further investigation.
Your example about the bones does nothing to support your argument because the conclusion is different. Here's the breakdown.
Argument: Finding dinosaur bones in your back yard, you concluded that a dinosaur died there.
Evidence: after you eat a chicken, there are bones left .It fails because the evidence only shows that those animals that have bones may leave their bones behind when they died. Nothing indicating that a dinosaur once roamed and died in your back yard. There are other possibilities for the bones being there. Ex: it was brought there by some other means, whether by a living force or nonliving force, such as gravity. Plate tectonics moved it there. Glaciers brought it there from somewhere else.
It's similar to those arguments from YEC claiming fossils of marine animals that were found up in the mountains as proof of a recent global flood because the mountains were under water at the time.