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They used the sun as a rough estimate to help them navigate. I've heard stories of how some groups would send some of their most able-bodied men up into the trees early in the morning to locate the position of the sun in the sky (sun rises in the east) and then head in the opposite direction.

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Music Discussion / Re: Strictly instrumentals
« on: March 16, 2014, 01:51:49 AM »
"Muanitus" by Pauliina Syrjala

The kantelle is a type of dulcimer from northeastern Europe. What distinguishes this kantelle video from the countless others on Youtube is the fact that Miss Syrjala is playing the instrument in the old Finnish style using a toothpick. Although the kantelle is played by many different European peoples, this playing style from Finland had always distinguished itself from the others by the fact that the player would pluck the strings using a small stick (nowadays a matchstick or toothpick) held in their right hand while the others simply used the bare fingers on their right hand.

Pauliina is among one of the last few kantelle players in world who still know this ancient and culturally significant technique. The matchstick plucking style is much harder to learn than the simpler all-finger plucking style; and this unique and more aesthetically beautiful discipline is in danger of becoming a lost art as more and more of the younger kantelle players continue to gravitate toward the all-hand plucking technique.



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It is common knowledge among Southeast Asian Hmong people and Mien people that our two groups are companions. Ask any Hmong if they know who the Mien people are, and chances are that they know who they are. Ask any Mien if they know who the Hmong people are, and chances are that they know who we are.

However, ask any Hmong or Mien if they know who the Dong people are and chances are that they do not.

The Dong (Kam) are an ethnic group who live in Southern China (with a few, tiny isolated pockets in Vietnam).  The language they speak is classified under the Tai-Kadai Languages Family Tree, and they are genetically and historically ancient cousins of the Thai and Lao people who live further south.

Although very few of us S.E.A. Hmongs are aware of the venerable bond our ancestors shared with these people, the Chinese Hmong (obviously) still do and acknowledge the camaraderie between our two people. For example in China, the Hmong, Mien and the Dong/Kam people generally prefer to live in the same regions and establish villages adjacent to the other ethnic group. While traditional Hmong people have always had very strict views about marrying someone outside of our ethnic group, the Chinese Hmong are more willing to make an exception if their children were to marry a Mien or Dong person.

Like the Mien, the Dong people were also one of our people's closest allies. During the rebellions of the Ming and Qing dynasties, they fought alongside our ancestors against the Chinese, and like us, they too suffered heavy reprisals after our defeat in the wars. When our ancestors and the ancestors of the Southeast Asian Mien people decided to leave China, the Dong people chose to stay and over time us Southeast Asian Hmongs have mostly forgotten about them.



One thing I find very intriguing about the Dong people is how much of an impact OUR culture has had on theirs. For example, there are other Thai/Lao related peoples living in southern China, but the Dong people are the only ones where the women wear Hmong-style pleated skirts and wrap their calves with long black leggings like us.

The one distinct, defining feature of Hmong culture is our unique pleated skirts, and we all know how much money, cloth and hard work it takes to make just ONE, and then to maintain it so that the pleats don't flatten out. The mere fact that the Dong women would willingly adopt our very, labor and maintenance-intensive skirts over the much more easier-to-make-and-maintain sarongs just boggles my mind and fascinates me.



One thing that I absolutely love about the Dong people are their songs and singing culture. Down below are few examples of some of my favorite traditional Dong folk tunes and nursery rhymes.

Two Hearts Beating As One (a love song)
(listen closely and you might be able to catch some Hmong words borrowed into their language)


The Goose is Sighing (?)** (a song about unrequited love)
**Not very sure about the true name of this song as some sources list the name as "Spring Song of the Cicadas" but either way, still a beautiful tune.

http://video.sina.com.cn/v/b/16485695-1361838694.html



Two Hearts Beating As One (Version 2)
Here's a more modernized version of the first. It has the same singers from the first video as well as a few more people, and it includes the full, entire folk song.

http://video.sina.com.cn/v/b/14955970-1391964413.html



This is from a concert by the famous Chinese composer and songwriter "Tan Dun". (If any of you have seen the movies "Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon" or Jet Li's "Hero" then you should be familiar with his works.)

In 2002, Tan Dun was touring around Southern China looking for inspiration for his music when he videotaped a group of Dong women singing while using the Tounge Trilling Technique. He then wrote an orchestral piece around the song they were singing and presented it in this concert.



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The people in this group are Hmoob Dawb from China, but look at how beautiful and unique the Chinese White Hmong women's clothes are from ours:

-colorful leggings
-not one, not two, but THREE sev/aprons (one wide, pleated black sev and a regular apron on top of that, including a third one at the back)

The Hmoob Dawb from Vietnam are the only other ones I know of that wear two sev/aprons with a skirt front and back, while us Thai and Laotian White Hmongs normally only do that with pants. It's got me curious about how our fashion has changed in the past few hundred years since we migrated out of China.


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In the first group, look at how hard the girl is kicking the poor guy's ankles and shins. I'd give up too if I had to go up against such a fierce dancer like her.  :2funny: :2funny: One look at the smug, mischievous grin on her face and you can easily tell who truly wears the pants in their relationship.

The second group is the more romantic out of the two. The dancers go at a more leisurely pace and they actually dance WITH each other rather than dancing AGAINST each other.  O0






Using the Qeej as a Weapon  :o :o

In addition to being a musical instrument, the qeej can also double as an impromptu weapon that could be used to defend yourself against small and minor attacks. (Imagine getting whacked on the head by one being twirled around by an experienced fighter. Speed up the technique and mix in some well-placed kicks and punches against your attacker and you could have one very impressive fight scene.)


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Courtship Dance by the Side-Comb Hmong in Guizhou. You can hear all the sweet words the qeej player is saying to those three ladies. (Also note that this Hmong group wears long, ankle-length skirts.)
http://www.56.com/w35/play_album-aid-9835147_vid-Mzg4MDU4Nzk.html


This Hmong group has a very interesting variation on the Qeej Tuam Taws dance. Usually the men and women face each other when they kick their legs together. But in this version, they jump in ahead of each other so their backs are turned, then they kick their legs BACK instead of forward.

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Hmong Culture & History / Traditional Hmong Dances (No Thai/Lao influence)
« on: February 13, 2013, 09:11:12 PM »
Here are come clips of an old style of Hmong dance called "Tsuab Qeej Tuam Taws" which translates as "Kicking Your Feet While Playing the Qeej". Unlike most other Asian cultures' dances, which focus more on graceful hand movements, these old, traditional Hmong dances put emphasis on using complex footwork.

My grandpa used to always tell me stories about how back in the days, long before ball tossing was introduced into our culture, how young men would play the qeej to woo their prospective girlfriends. During any community events, and especially during the New Years, they would gather in the village square, showing off their skills to whomever was watching them.

If a girl liked the way a certain boy danced or the way he played his qeej, she would come up, grab his arm and pull him aside from his friends so she could dance with him.

Today, the Hmong in China are the only ones who still practice this age-old courting dance where both genders participate together. Us SEA Hmongs have lost the female part of this courting dance, and very rarely do you ever see women dancing alongside a qeej player in our performances.





Here's one of my favorite videos: in the first clip, a father is teaching his little girl the steps to the dance, then in the next scene, we see a young couple demonstrating the routine.


Musical Chairs (Hmong-Style!!!): in this version, the men and the women start off in two separate groups. When the music changes, they must quickly merge into each other and whoever they end up with, they have to dance with each other until the song changes again (the cameraman only captured the ending of the dance though).


Hmong Square Dancing: In this last video, an old qeej player explains the words to the qeej song then demonstrates the dance. Notice how the onlookers gradually join in with the dance, then form a circle around the main dancers.


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Music Discussion / Re: Song You're Currently Addicted To
« on: February 20, 2012, 12:22:06 AM »
"Desert" by Cirque du Soleil, from their show, called "O"

I was a band geek when I was in high school, so I like listening to epic instrumentals.

Someday, I'm going to go watch this live.

(Listen closely, and you can hear a Chinese erhu among the instruments in the song.)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v98cHEKP5K0 (Embedding disabled, limit reached)

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