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General Category => General Discussion => Topic started by: theking on April 05, 2023, 11:51:41 PM
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...that their home needs a serious upgrade or build them a new home or they'll be moving out ???:
Athletics' stripped-down roster was outdrawn by 11 Triple-A teams Tuesday
After yet another offseason of cost-cutting moves, the Oakland Athletics were outdrawn by 11 Triple-A games Tuesday.
The Athletics announced an attendance of just 3,407 fans during Tuesday's walk-off win over the Cleveland Guardians. That's a staggeringly low figure for an MLB team ... as reflected in the attendance numbers from Tuesday's Triple-A games.
Yeah, you're reading that properly. Eleven Triple-A teams beat the A's attendance Tuesday. Not only that, but four Triple-A teams had more than twice as many fans as the Athletics.
Athletics continue to sell parts as they look to relocate
That's really sad for an MLB team ... if you can refer to the Athletics as that. Team owner John Fisher seems intent on moving the team out of Oakland. The city and Fisher have been at odds for what feels like a decade now, and things are reaching a critical point. Fisher can't seem to get the funding he desires from the city and has seemingly responded by making the Athletics an unwatchable mess.
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Been to the Coliseum a few times over the years to watch games and it's not pretty and still has the same communal urinals it had when it was built.. :o:
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The A's will probably follow my Raiders' foot steps and relocate to Vegas or other city that can do what the city of Oakland can't do... ???
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And here we go... ???:
Oakland A's purchase land for new stadium in Las Vegas
The A's hope to break ground by next year and would hope to be move to their new home by 2027. The Oakland Athletics has signed a binding agreement to purchase land in Las Vegas for a future ballpark site, the team announced Wednesday night.
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Oakland lease is still good till end of 2024.
Selling tickets for $10 a seat will not cut it. Fan base in oakland is still weak. Can't blame hmong mayor of oakland for not trying to keep oakland A's in town.
Oakland lost GS warriors, faders and now a's.
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The list of Mayors that went through the stadium issue including Mayor Sheng Thao currently:
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The list of Mayors that went through the stadium issue including Mayor Sheng Thao currently:
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What are you trying to imply here... that women don't understand the important of sports? :2funny: :2funny:
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Lots of men in the mix too...All about greed when it comes to these things (pro stadiums) that could cost billions of dollars once it's set and done.
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Uh oh...perhaps the grass is not greener in the other side? ???:
Oakland Athletics Face a $500 Million Battle With Las Vegas Over New Stadium
To clinch the move, the franchise wants roughly $500 million in public financing to build a 35,000 seat retractable-roof stadium and entertainment complex. But the details still need to be hammered out and Las Vegas Mayor Carolyn Goodman is wary about using public dollars to subsidize a private enterprise.
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Pretty desperate now IMO...even the fans ???:
Why one Athletics fan is urging people to pack the ballpark amid reports of the team leaving for Las Vegas
Clary's idea was simple but unique. Fed up with the current state of the Athletics, he proposed a counter protest. Instead of boycotting the team, Clary suggested Athletics fans pack the stadium for a weekday night game to send a message: A's fans can support this team. The proposal gained momentum at incredible speed.
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A's reportedly land on new Tropicana Las Vegas stadium site after pulling out of 'binding' agreement
Like so many Las Vegas visitors, the Oakland Athletics are reportedly changing plans after reevaluating their financial circumstances.
The club has reached a new agreement with casino operator Bally's Corporation to build a $1.5 billion stadium on the current site of the Tropicana Las Vegas casino, according to the Nevada Independent.
The deal would reportedly see Bally's demolish the Tropicana and allow the A's to construct a 35,000-seat, retractable-roof stadium on nine acres of the 34-acre site located on the Las Vegas Strip. Meanwhile, Bally's would construct a 1,500-room hotel and casino across from the stadium, separate from the ballpark.
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Optimism can only go so far when trying to solve something this politically? ???:
'You have to have optimism to play this game': How A's players, coaches keep showing up for Oakland Amid the swirling uncertainty just outside the clubhouse, the Oakland Athletics are still playing baseball
Amid the swirling uncertainty just outside the clubhouse, the Oakland Athletics are still playing baseball
NEW YORK — Tommy Everidge remembers the first time he went to the Oakland Coliseum. How could you forget when Mark McGwire tosses you a baseball? Everidge was 10 years old, a San Francisco Giants fan growing up in Sonoma, California. But Oakland A’s tickets were cheaper, so he and his friend Cliff (and Cliff’s dad) went to see McGwire’s A’s and sat so close behind the dugout that the slugger himself pointed right at Everidge and tossed a baseball that didn’t quite make it to the intended recipient, plunking a couple in front of him too busy kissing to pay attention to the action on the field.
“And McGwire was like, ‘Hey, give it to the kid behind you!’” Everidge remembered. “It was so cool.”
Sometime in the past three decades, Everidge lost that ball. Without a signature or any sort of authentication, he figured no one would believe it came from McGwire anyway, so he played catch with it until the ball disappeared.
In college, he and his friends went to the Coliseum for dollar Wednesday nights (a dollar to get in and a dollar for a hot dog). “I thought it was beautiful before they put up Mount Davis,” he said of the stadium.
But these days, Everidge goes to the Coliseum more than ever. Thirty years after that first visit, Cliff lives in Southern California and works at Lockheed Martin. Everidge is the hitting coach for his hometown Oakland A’s.
“I should probably try to get him out there [to see a game],” Everidge said.
He’ll have to hurry.
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Mayor Sheng Thao has spoken as she's feeling the same pressure as the past Mayors on this issue...so the ball is on the A's court now.. ???:
Oakland 'very close' to Howard Terminal ballpark deal if Athletics re-engage
Now, Oakland mayor Sheng Thao revealed that the City of Oakland is open to getting a deal back on the table with the A's if ownership re-engages. “Howard Terminal, it's already entitled.
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Now, Oakland mayor Sheng Thao revealed the city is open to doing a deal with the A’s if team ownership re-engages.
“Howard Terminal, it's already entitled. And so I want the A's to stay here,” Thao said Thursday on ABC7 News Bay Area (h/t ABC7’s Casey Pratt). “If the owners called us back and say, 'Let's get back to the table,' we are very close to a deal.”
Thao also said if that someone else is ready to buy the A's, Oakland also would be ready.
“If someone wants to buy the A's, and that happens, we are very close to a deal," Thao said. "So, I would say that we would be able to break ground as soon as possible in regards to the process after in having that deal, whatever that looks like. It could be two years.
“And if we do have a deal, this is something that I would want to expedite because it will be great for the city, it will be great for not just the fan base but for our economic potential as well.”
Pratt clarified that Howard Terminal isn't fully entitled, as Thao said, but it does have entitlements. For a deal to be reached, however, the project would need further approvals and permits.
Earlier this week, Bally's Corporation announced that it, in conjunction with Gaming & Leisure Properties, Inc., had reached a binding agreement with the A’s to build the franchise's new ballpark on a portion of the current Tropicana property on the southern end of The Strip in Las Vegas.
The deal is the second such agreement the A's have entered in the last month, with the first being a new stadium on 49 acres of Las Vegas land owned by Red Rock Resorts. However, that agreement fell through, and the A's started looking elsewhere.
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On Thursday, though, Tabitha Miller and Howard Stutz of The Nevada Independent reported, citing sources, that Nevada lawmakers haven't introduced legislation to bring the A's to Las Vegas because they "are only willing to contribute up to $195 million in transferable tax credits for stadium construction funding." The A's requested $395 million in public funds.
The A's never-ending roller-coaster ride for a new stadium continues to tick upward and fall downward, but if the team opts to stay in the East Bay, the city of Oakland will be ready for whatever comes its way.
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Be something if Sheng can pull it off and do something the other Mayors couldn't.. ???
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Looks like the A's are still looking but if Mayor Thao can do what other Mayors couldn't do, that may be enough to help her win re-election ???:
Athletics' first proposed Las Vegas ballpark renderings released
The Athletics released the first renderings of their proposed new ballpark in Las Vegas which includes a partially retractable roof and a seating capacity of 30,000. The ballpark will sit on nine acres at the Tropicana Las Vegas resort site on the south end of The Strip.
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Sheng and Oakland still have a chance ???:
Athletics Las Vegas stadium bill significantly opposed by public
As the Athletics take steps toward relocating from Oakland to Las Vegas, the public is offering its two cents about the proposed stadium.
The public won’t actually vote on Nevada Senate Bill 509 -- the A’s official pitch for up to $380 million in public funding for the ballpark -- but citizens still are making sure their voices are heard.
As of Tuesday morning, SB509 has received 2,370 public opinion positions of which 78 percent oppose the bill and 20 percent support it. The “neutral” option has received zero selections so far.
To be clear, anyone can submit their position on the bill, not just Nevada residents. So A’s fans from California and beyond also can weigh in.
Lawmakers, too, didn’t hold back during a six-plus-hour SB509 hearing that took place Monday by a joint committee of Senate and Assembly members.
"So, I’m just going it put it out there: I’m a no. Almost a hell no, so y’all have to get me to a yes, OK?" Assemblywoman Daniele Monroe-Moreno told A’s representative s (h/t The Nevada Independent).
"The Golden Knights didn’t cost taxpayers a dime," Monroe-Moreno said. "They came here, and they came at a time when we were hurting as a state, and they became Nevada's team, Vegas' team. This is different. It’s kind of apples and oranges in that comparison."
Las Vegas assemblywoman Michelle Gorelow didn’t specify how she would vote, but she did state that she received “a lot” of emails and social media pleas from the public asking her and her colleagues to vote no.
Reno assemblywoman Selena La Rue Hatch used the New York Yankees and Yankee Stadium as a reference to compare the direct public funding.
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What I like to know is this. You can built it but will they come? Where are they going to get them A's Fans?
The faders already has an established fan based from their former days in LA and LA is not too far away from Vegas. A's baseball can not walk in the same footprint as them faders.
Although the location is prime for fans to do a double wammy when in town. It is walking distance to the strip unlike the fader stadium that you will need to uber yourself across from that freeway.
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That "$300 million relocation fee" that MLB wants is an advantage for Sheng and her crew for sure at the bargaining table ???:
Athletics' Las Vegas relocation fee conditional on public stadium financing
Jeremy Aguero, an A's consultant on the stadium project, explained to the joint committee of state legislators that in order for the team to avoid paying MLB an estimated $300 million relocation fee for moving from Oakland to Las Vegas, it would need an “acceptable” public-private partnership in place
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$30 million more on Sheng's side ???:
Athletics would owe Oakland $30M if they leave after 2024 MLB season
Per the Las Vegas Review-Journal, the team is contracted to pay Alameda County $15 million each year between 2024 to 2026. If the franchise were to depart the Bay Area before its proposed Las Vegas ballpark is finished -- estimated for 2028 -- they would owe the city of Oakland $30 million.
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I'm sure Sheng is happy to hear about this ???:
A's Las Vegas Strip Ballpark in Limbo After Huge Setback
Team's Vegas Strip Ballpark Plans in Limbo
The A's ran into a big wall on June 6 when the Nevada State Legislature failed to pass Senate Bill 509, which would have provided the $380 million in public funding for construction of the Tropicana Las Vegas Property, the Las Vegas Review-Journal reported.
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Vegas is built on tourist money. You can not expect to fill them seats with tourists either.
Where them A's fans at that will fill up your seats in Vegas?
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karma has hit the Raiders and Athletics..now its our turn to act like we're too good for them...lols
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A's ownership has failed in three other Bay Area cities and are failing now in Sin City so bet Sheng Thao and her crew are smiling quietly ??? ;D:
Column: Athletics owners are failing on Las Vegas move. It’s time for Rob Manfred to act
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It’s hard to tell whether the Oakland Athletics are a bigger farce on or off the field.
On the field, the A’s are on pace to lose 127 games. No major league team in the entirety of the 20th century lost so many games in a single season.
Off the field, the A’s soon could go 0 for 4 in potential host cities, striking out in the pursuit of a new ballpark in Oakland, Fremont, San Jose and maybe now in Las Vegas.
The question is not where A’s owner John Fisher and team president Dave Kaval might look next. The question is why Major League Baseball commissioner Rob Manfred would trust them to wrap up the Vegas deal, let alone let them look for another stadium deal, when Fisher and Kaval have proven they cannot get a deal done.
MLB wants the Vegas deal done.
For two decades, the A’s have pitched a new ballpark as a panacea. In 2009, long before Fisher and Kaval and Manfred were the faces attached to this saga, then-commissioner Bud Selig said this: “The A’s cannot and will not continue indefinitely in their current situation.” (Narrator: They can, and they have.)
Here is Manfred, his successor, in 2021: “The Oakland process is at an end.”
Here is Manfred, in July 2022: “It needs to happen now. It needs to be done.”
Here is Manfred, in December 2022: “We’re past any reasonable timeline for the situation in Oakland to be resolved.”
Maybe Oakland was the issue. Or, as it turns out, maybe not.
In April, Fisher and Kaval said they would make a deal in Las Vegas. The deal was supposed to have been done by Monday. Or Tuesday. Or Wednesday.
Or, at least, sometime before major league owners meet next Tuesday.
Now? They’re still working on it, a process marked by ineptitude so prolonged and so public that Oakland congresswoman Barbara Lee this week found time to write Manfred and threaten baseball’s antitrust exemption.
There is a small group of specialists who negotiate stadium deals from coast to coast. I talked to one who has worked on MLB deals for years. He is not involved in the Las Vegas deal, but he is astounded at how Fisher and Kaval have failed at the basic give and take that accompanies any negotiation.
Some legislators will vote yes, no matter what. Some will vote no. But, in a public hearing Wednesday, several legislators practically pleaded for Fisher and Kaval to give them something: help us get to a yes vote, a vote that we can defend to our constituents.
One legislator asked the A’s to consider a 9% ticket tax, the same tax assessed on tickets to concerts and shows in Las Vegas.
Another legislator asked the A’s to guarantee their community benefits promises by writing them into the stadium bill.
The stadium negotiator was flabbergasted that the A’s had dodged both requests. How, he wondered, do the A’s not at least offer to discuss a smaller ticket tax? That could be a way to a yes vote, since legislators could say they got the A’s to pay a tax the Raiders and Golden Knights do not pay. Perhaps the A’s even negotiate a mechanism to recoup that money in later years.
And, when a public hearing last week revealed citizen anguish that a baseball stadium might be a higher funding priority than public schools, it should have been a no-brainer for Fisher and Kaval to say this: “We want to be a part of the solution, not a part of the problem. If we are fortunate enough to become part of this community, the A’s will donate $1 million a year to public education in Las Vegas.”
Here is what the A’s would be getting in Las Vegas: $380 million in taxpayer money toward a new stadium, plus free land for the stadium donated by a private company, plus no property taxes because the A’s would donate the land to a public agency, plus no rent because the agency would waive it, plus revenue from naming rights. That’s a half-billion dollars worth of goodies right there.
The legislature went home for the weekend, tired of waiting for the A’s to give enough to get the votes.
If there is a deal to be made — and there is — Manfred should dispatch one of those stadium negotiation specialists to Vegas this weekend and let him do the talking. Fisher and Kaval have promised new ballparks at four locations in the past six years, and two in the past six weeks. Their track record speaks for itself.
If Fisher really draws the line at his $1.1 billion contribution to the stadium, so be it. However, his team’s lease in Oakland expires next year.
The A’s might still pull victory from the jaws of defeat in Las Vegas. Or they could find themselves homeless after the 2024 season, barnstorming like the Savannah Bananas.
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Hmmm...
Bill to help finance a Las Vegas ballpark for Oakland A's passes Nevada Senate, heads to Assembly
CARSON CITY, Nev. -- A stadium financing bill aimed at drawing the Oakland Athletics to Las Vegas cleared a major hurdle Tuesday after being approved by the Nevada Senate, but not before lawmakers amended the measure to strengthen its benefits for the community.
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The fans can be a factor too ???:
A’s fans come out en masse for reverse boycott and tell owner John Fisher to sell
Furious Oakland Athletics fans came en masse with a single message to owner John Fisher: "SELL." "Sell the team!" they chanted thousands of times during the A's 2-1 victory against the Tampa Bay Rays that gave Oakland a season-best seven-game winning streak.
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Sheng and her crew as well as many Oakland A's fans can't be happy about this update:
Oakland A’s $380M In Public Funding For Retractable Roof Stadium In Las Vegas Signed By Nevada Governor
UPDATE: Nevada Gov. Joe Lombardo has signed a Las Vegas stadium funding bill into law, marking yet another step forward for the Oakland A's to move to Las Vegas. Lombardo approved $380 million in public money to build a $1.5 billion, retractable roof baseball stadium for the Athletics.
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Looks like Sheng and her crew have 1 year to sort it out ???:
Report: A's to play in Oakland during 2024 MLB season
OAKLAND — Let there be no ambiguity: Even after this week's events in Nevada, the Oakland A's will still play the 2024 season at the Coliseum. But what happens after next year remains unknown. The A's will remain at the 55-year-old facility for at least another full season, a team spokesman confirmed Friday evening.
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Tom Hanks is in the mix now? ???:
Could Tom Hanks pull a Ryan Reynolds and help keep the A's in Oakland?
LOS ANGELES — First, a concise recap of the state of professional sports in Oakland, courtesy of East Bay native Tom Hanks:
"We've lost the Raiders."
"The Warriors moved to San Francisco."
"And now they're going to take the A's out of Oakland."
Then, a pause for dramatic effect followed by five words that sum up the feelings of all Oakland sports fans toward the owners responsible for the mass exodus:
"Damn them all to hell," said Hanks, who's shown he can be a little tough in movies. He did manage the Rockford Peaches in "A League of Their Own."
The line drew laughter from Hanks' audience, which likely didn't contain too many Oakland sports fans. While promoting his first book, "The Making of Another Major Motion Picture Masterpiece," at the Wilshire Ebell Theatre in Los Angeles last month, the actor answered questions from audience members read to him by event moderator John Horn.
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Wow, I read somewhere Oakland lost a pro hockey team a long time ago too.