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She puts in time and effort and enjoys being with me because I’m taking care of her. Simple as that.

We have a highly reciprocated relationship which makes us want to invest more into each other. This is actually what a healthy relationship looks like, it is mutual beneficial. I’m not saying that you’re wrong. What you describe there is an imbalance arrangement. It’s like tik for tat which is why the arrangement/relationship suffer.

Just look at it this way. That men are providers. It’s not difference than a married couple where the man provides and she’s giving him intimacy and sex.

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The Single & Dating Scenes / Bestowing more knowledge 2
« on: November 05, 2022, 10:51:55 AM »
Friends with benefits - She finds you attractive and doesn’t expect money she’ll still date you even if you’re broke or have money. You got her in the friend zoned because you’re not ready for a relationship.

If you’re the Boyfriend/Husband - She finds you attractive and you got money and both of you are ready to settle down.
Now she can also not be attracted to you too, but she sees you got money and resources and you’re a provider so she stays with you.

Friend zone - You’re average or below and ugly, unattractive. You’re not financially stable.

Creep zoned - You’re unattractive, broke, and just clingy.

This list isn’t black or white but just a general idea.


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I had to read what you wrote again just to get a jedi mind fawk going on.  My gosh, no wonder you can't win at dating the traditional way.

First off, it is not the bf's job to work for his paycheck and give her his paycheck just so she can be happy or else she'll stray.  When you date someone, you qualify them for some red flags and you make the choice to hold um or fold um. 

Spoiling a chick is optional.  It then becomes a problem if it is your job to kiss her azz and spoil her or else she will stray.  Same thing for guys.  If a girl is not giving him booty, is that a lame excuse for him to get booty elsewhere?  Read them red flags.  Get out early before you get played.   O0

He’s a regular bf and she’s a SB and they have different expectations that’s why their relationship doesn’t work. She’s better off to find a rich bf. 

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She's playing her role because it is her job.  How genuine is it?  Only god can tell. 

They say you are worth for what you are payed.  Perhaps there are no real ballers in your area that would make her a real high class baby.  Real smart babies are going for 5k a month the least and up.  Your half breed girl are going for a discount because she's not all that.  She is what she's worth. 

Real BF and GF relationship can lead to something.  There's potential and hope that it will end up in marriage.  Love is possible there too.  Take all of these PH guys for example.  They dated the traditional way and are now married to them. They invested their time for something that ended up being real at the end of the day.  Your so called sugar dating this one for more than 3 years and only half and half?  IT means you got played and they are smart at it.  They got you confused.  Good Job Ashley.  I don't feel sorry for her anymore but I feel sorry for you bra.  Good luck with your ventures.

The ppm or allowance is based on the area. It can be 5k+ in Cali or NY if they are lucky to find wealthy SDs but I’m not sure. And no legit SDs are going to pay 5k to start.

I met Ashley during July 4 weekend of 2022. She still seeing me and she sleeps over. The other chick was 3 years and we’re still friends to this day. It’s naive to think that I will just give her money without sex in return lol. No legit SD does that. So like if I give her the amount we agreed on and she lie then that means she played me. Or if i lie and claim I’m going to support her but don’t, and I tricked her into sleeping with me then she got played. Well, none of us have play each other and we both always hold our end on the deal. 

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If she’s dating the bf he should be willing to pull out the stop to keep her comfy so she won’t have to look elsewhere. That’s the hard part for most guys. They don’t help her enough. This means paying for her upkeep, dates, travel, bills etc. The reason why she’s looking for sugar daddies is because she want or need more money. I’m sure she would preferred to have the bf, but that’s only if he’s generous enough with her so that she don’t need to seek out the SDs. In my experience, having an exclusive gf costs more than a SB lol. Ashley is somewhere in between a gf and a SB. She’s a SGF (spoiled gf). She don’t always expect me to give her an allowance but I still spoiled her by taking her to shopping and paying her medical bills.

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If shes not giving you sex it means she’s not attracted to you, but she will give sex to the other guy shes attracted to. If she says no sex, she’s only saying that to YOU. Women likes sex but they only want it from the top tier good looking guys.

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The Single & Dating Scenes / Bestowing y’all with more knowledge
« on: October 27, 2022, 09:19:33 PM »
Women are naturally attracted to men who have the looks.

Women like men that have money because of the lifestyle he can provide like buying a home, nice cars, traveling, financial security etc.

Women don’t like you for your personality only. You need more than this.

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^^^

So then I assume that you are getting sex from these girls you've met on dating apps? I don't know about having sex with people that you go on dates with. I understand having sex with someone whom you're in a relationship with.

I am getting sex. I’m in a sugar relationship. People say that there are rules to this, but I’ve fallen for her and so is she. There are no rules. It’s up to the individual. I’ve met her mom and dad already.

Sugar dating is really just dating but I’m supporting her financially. I’m helping her to get her own place.

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If you take sex out of the equation, most men would not deal with most women.

If you take money out of the equation, most women won’t deal with most men.  :2funny:

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Then both of you guys got hustled and are fawked.   Check mate   O0

Most Sbs have multiple sugar daddy anyway because one SD can’t fulfill everything. But I know that if the price is right and she like you, there’s a chance she will be monogamous to you. But for that to happen you gotta have a lot of money. Money = long term relationship.

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Opening relationship per her call and she still got you for a paycheck?  That's straight up hustling.  I'm not mad at her though. She'll take your money and pay for her BF's bills too  O0

If she has a bf, he would still be her sugar daddy. If she’s hustling like a stripper her bf will be a sugar daddy not a normal guy.

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After 3 years of this and still no GF/BF title.  She still up one bra.  Well played on her part.   O0

How to trap a simp style.    :2funny:

We’re in an open relationship. I also have a rotation. 

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A date don’t always lead to something. An arrangement is also a date but it does lead to something because both party already agree to the arrangement. An arrangement is not a John seeing an escort, it is a date! A normal date doesn’t guarantee something. Sex is not guarantee. She might even make you wait lol. Those that are experts don’t play the waiting game. After 3 dates and no sex I’m moving on. But the newbies do not know this.  They take a girl out on 3-4 dates and get nothing in return.  :2funny:

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I don't think you even know what engagement you are getting yourself into.  It is not a date, it is an arrangement.   O0

Date leads to something.  Arrangement is a contract.  I pay you, you play the actress role to fill in my void.   O0

Being delusional is still free.  It is when you convinced yourself without anyone telling you to be delusional.   That is why there is a coin phrase " you are blinded by her beauty"  or you are just blinded by her booty  :2funny:

Yes an arrangement is just casual without commitment, but there are also other SBs that are looking for a sugar relationship which is a lot closer to a normal relationship where she is receiving financial support. She is not a prostitute or escort. There is still some kind of attraction and emotional connection involve. These are the ones I seek, not the casual one. My SB is staying with me and I give her enough so she has more time to see me. Before this I see her 2-3 times per week and we were always on constant communication and some days she would gave me gas money to come see her and she would pay for our dates. But she’s saying with me now. 

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How you know your babies not in it for the allowance?  Oh right, they are in it for the money otherwise they wouldn't be on an arrangement website to begin with.

I know that all my GF were not in it for the money because I don't have money for them to dig.  The one I'm with right now, I have given her the GF title and at least my story, I will Marry her some day.

What about your babies?  No GF title, does not pass go n will not in any hell shape or form that you will Marry her some day. 

Now if she's your GF, we wouldn't be here talking now would we?

The babies industry is a shame.  If you can't see this, you got issues n good luck with that.

I don’t think you understand how a sugar relationship work. Of course she’s in it for the money! - that’s kind of the point in a sugar relationship. We each give to improve our lives. But most SBs aren’t just going to date you. They need a connection and chemistry just like any normal relationships they must also find you attractive. If they don’t find you attractive they won’t date you. Sure some might be in just for the money and eventually you will know if that’s the case. When you start to feel the dynamic she’s not adding any value to your life but only keep asking for money then that’s when you know she’s not really into you.  I wouldn’t date Sbs who don’t find me attractive and I’m sure some won’t date you too just because you have money.

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