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Title: Liberals and their understanding of economic...
Post by: Hung_Low on February 17, 2019, 04:52:24 PM
AOC (the new darling of the dem/lib) doing victory laps when Amazon scrap plans to build a 2nd office in NY.

This is what she says... "The city was paying for those jobs. Frankly if we were willing to give away $3 billion dollars for this deal, we could invest those $3 billion in our district, ourselves, if we wanted to. We could hire out more teachers. We can fix our subways. We can put a lot of people to work for that amount of money if we wanted to.” What this idiot do not realized is that the $3billions are not actual money that the city already has. Remember, this is a liberal/dem that has a degree in Economic from Boston University. Apparently, she skip the class about how tax credit works.

Liberals/Dems must love to destroy jobs and call it a victory... Gone are the 25,000 jobs that pays in excess of $150,000... Gone are taxes from those jobs... Gone are the purchasing power and contribution to the city's economy from those individual, etc. etc. Yes, it's a great victory for people that need jobs.
Title: Liberals and their understanding of economic...
Post by: w1s3m0n on February 17, 2019, 05:46:12 PM
Far left are wingnuts.  I cannot believe she thinks it's a win for losing the Amazon HQ2 deal.   :idiot2: :idiot2: :idiot2: :idiot2: :idiot2:

The optimal strategy is to get the investment and then slowly push the regulatory burden.

There are a bunch of political wingnuts in MN too. 
Title: Re: Liberals and their understanding of economic...
Post by: hmgROCK on February 17, 2019, 07:15:07 PM
Amazon pay zero federal tax for 2018 (google if you don’t believe me)
With the tax break the state of new york is offering
They will probably pay zero state and local tax

This is just a badddd deal
Don’t need to be a genius to figure this out

Without tax
Local community will suffer
Bad school, road, services


Title: Re: Liberals and their understanding of economic...
Post by: hmgROCK on February 17, 2019, 08:02:22 PM
before you say, the employee will paid the taxes
they will also pee in gatorade bottle
that is not lemon lime favor, it straight up piss
 ;D ;D ;D

 


http://digg.com/2018/amazon-workers-pee (http://digg.com/2018/amazon-workers-pee)

Amazon is allegedly making warehouse employees pee in bottles, and unfortunately, it's not that surprising. The new accusation comes from author James Bloodworth, who went undercover at an Amazon warehouse in the UK. Bloodworth told The Sun that some workers were forced to walk the entire 700,000 square foot warehouse (a quarter mile, 10-minute walk) to get to two bathrooms that served the entire four-story, 1,200-employee workplace.
Title: Re: Liberals and their understanding of economic...
Post by: Gucci K on February 18, 2019, 08:51:03 AM
AOC believes that people don't have to work, if they don't want to.  she believes that money grows on trees, that is why she implemented the "green" plan.  idiocracy at it's best, being happy about losing a multibillion dollar company at your doorsteps...th e possible of jobs and tax revenues are out the window...every body back to receiving welfare.  ha!
Title: Re: Liberals and their understanding of economic...
Post by: dogmai on February 18, 2019, 09:08:22 AM
Amazon pay zero federal tax for 2018 (google if you don’t believe me)
With the tax break the state of new york is offering
They will probably pay zero state and local tax

This is just a badddd deal
Don’t need to be a genius to figure this out

Without tax
Local community will suffer
Bad school, road, services


So losing the tax from the employees would mean even more suffering for the community.
Title: Re: Liberals and their understanding of economic...
Post by: YAX on February 18, 2019, 09:18:06 AM
Far left are wingnuts.  I cannot believe she thinks it's a win for losing the Amazon HQ2 deal.   :idiot2: :idiot2: :idiot2: :idiot2: :idiot2:

The optimal strategy is to get the investment and then slowly push the regulatory burden.

There are a bunch of political wingnuts in MN too.
Meanwhile, Wisconsin taxpayers are forced to pay $4.5 billion to Foxconn to bribe them into building a factory near Milwaukee.  That's how conservatives make jobs happen.
Title: Re: Liberals and their understanding of economic...
Post by: hmgROCK on February 18, 2019, 09:33:29 AM
So losing the tax from the employees would mean even more suffering for the community.

this is just a reallllly badddd deal
amazon is already paying zero federal tax
now they will pay zero state and local tax

nothing is free in this world
everyone has to pay their fair share

i will probably just give them a lower tax rate like 2-10%
so they are contributing to the local community

Title: Re: Liberals and their understanding of economic...
Post by: hmgROCK on February 18, 2019, 09:34:31 AM
Meanwhile, Wisconsin taxpayers are forced to pay $4.5 billion to Foxconn to bribe them into building a factory near Milwaukee.  That's how conservatives make jobs happen.

yes, that is a badddddd dealllll
i won't even offer them that
i would just give them a lower tax rate 2-10% so that they are still paying taxes

so we all win
Title: Re: Liberals and their understanding of economic...
Post by: YAX on February 18, 2019, 11:37:16 AM
yes, that is a badddddd dealllll
i won't even offer them that
i would just give them a lower tax rate 2-10% so that they are still paying taxes

so we all win
Aren't all the republicans in Wi in favor of giving money away just to bring foxconn into the area.
Title: Re: Liberals and their understanding of economic...
Post by: hmgROCK on February 18, 2019, 11:57:34 AM
Aren't all the republicans in Wi in favor of giving money away just to bring foxconn into the area.


it just a baddddddd deal
no tax revenue from foxconn= lots of pothole

damn
they are everywhere here in wisconsin

bad school, bad public services


like i say, i just lower their tax rate instead of zero
Title: Re: Liberals and their understanding of economic...
Post by: w1s3m0n on February 23, 2019, 05:52:21 PM
It's really what the collective do with the deal that determines if it is good or bad.

Case Study: China Economic Rise To Being #1 Largest Economy

The rise of China economic is precisely based upon bad deals.  Americans were shipping "BAD" jobs to China in the millions and paying the citizens a nickel to a dime per hour.  If that is not the definition of "BAD" then I don't know what is.  The Chinese did not b1.tch and complain about fair wages or "BAD" deals.  They seized the opportunity as a developmental one and used their INGENUITY to create MORE OPPORTUNITY.  This is what we call MOMENTUM.  Today China using American "BAD" opportunity is now THE WORLD LARGEST ECONOMY.

Typical socialist liberals (fake liberal, anti-free market thinking) think life is fair when life is competition and suffering.  It is only the past 60 years that have resulted in an anomaly we called Pax Americana.  Pax Americana is ending and who knows what is in store for the world.

To put it bluntly, the economic rise of China has proven without a doubt that job creation always wins...even if it's "bad" jobs...  Mao may have won the war for PRC, but that guy was so IDEALISTIC and ANTI-JOB that it wasn't until Mao passed and when Deng Xiaoping took over did China's fate change.  Prior to 1970, 97% of Chinese were starving and dying from extreme poverty (living on less than $1).  Beginning in 1970 to when Deng Xiaoping took over in 1978 the extreme poverty rate dropped to 90%.  Today, the extreme poverty rate is less than 1%HOW DID THIS WONDERFUL CHANGE HAPPEN?  I'll tell you...JOB JOB JOB JOB JOB JOB JOB...  Turning away job is simply ignorance in economics...do n't be a Mao...Be a Deng.   :2funny: :2funny: :2funny:

Talk to me about economics???
Title: Re: Liberals and their understanding of economic...
Post by: Gucci K on February 26, 2019, 09:18:49 AM
foxconn:  the state gives $3billion+ in incentives.  in return the company provides 13,000 jobs and possibly $50billion+ in revenues in 10-15 years.  how is that not a win for WI?  If i lived in WI, i'd go open up a pho restaurant, a coffee shops or chain next to the facility, in 5 years, I might be a million year!  if one understand economics, the attraction of large corporations such as Foxconn and Amazon not only brings internal jobs but supporting companies, higher real estate values, jobs and more jobs...people don't have to wait for their welfare checks..they can go to work, make their own money and buy their own food.
Title: Re: Liberals and their understanding of economic...
Post by: hmgROCK on February 26, 2019, 09:32:47 AM
foxconn:  the state gives $3billion+ in incentives.  in return the company provides 13,000 jobs and possibly $50billion+ in revenues in 10-15 years.  how is that not a win for WI?  If i lived in WI, i'd go open up a pho restaurant, a coffee shops or chain next to the facility, in 5 years, I might be a million year!  if one understand economics, the attraction of large corporations such as Foxconn and Amazon not only brings internal jobs but supporting companies, higher real estate values, jobs and more jobs...people don't have to wait for their welfare checks..they can go to work, make their own money and buy their own food.

foxconn is only going do research only now
don't know how many job, but it's not going be 13,000
they not going do what they say they going do in the first place
this is what we call a classic BAIT AND SWITCH
Us Wisconsinite got made a fool, probably going get laugh at



https://thehill.com/opinion/technology/431003-wisconsins-bad-deal-with-foxconn-is-a-lesson-for-other-states

Two years ago, Taiwanese tech company Foxconn promised to construct a $10 billion factory and create up to 13,000 jobs in the southeast portion of the Wisconsin
. Last month, however, the company announced it was altering its plans for the factory. Although the company still intends to build a facility, it is unclear how many and what types of workers that facility would hold.
Title: Re: Liberals and their understanding of economic...
Post by: Gucci K on February 26, 2019, 01:08:08 PM
foxconn is only going do research only now
don't know how many job, but it's not going be 13,000
they not going do what they say they going do in the first place
this is what we call a classic BAIT AND SWITCH
Us Wisconsinite got made a fool, probably going get laugh at



https://thehill.com/opinion/technology/431003-wisconsins-bad-deal-with-foxconn-is-a-lesson-for-other-states

Two years ago, Taiwanese tech company Foxconn promised to construct a $10 billion factory and create up to 13,000 jobs in the southeast portion of the Wisconsin
. Last month, however, the company announced it was altering its plans for the factory. Although the company still intends to build a facility, it is unclear how many and what types of workers that facility would hold.
at this point, it's all about politics...lib erals will say, $3billion is alot of money, use it for the community, cut down taxes and etc (same as AOC addressed amazon)..not realizing that there will not be any more income after spending that money.  this is where cities, states become poor and broken down...it's because the politicians are not looking for your best interest...the y're not promoting self-sufficiency nor jobs...they want to keep you poor and yet, still ask for your votes by saying, "..see, i'm working for you by giving you welfare money!"   when nobody works because the lack of jobs, the life of crime rises...with no income tax to build the city, your property value lessens (your streets don't get clean or repair, no one to take care of parks and recreations, and all other things that derives from income taxes) and businesses gets shut down because nobody can afford food, services and it's enjoyments. 
Title: Re: Liberals and their understanding of economic...
Post by: hmgROCK on February 26, 2019, 01:48:37 PM
at this point, it's all about politics...lib erals will say, $3billion is alot of money, use it for the community, cut down taxes and etc (same as AOC addressed amazon)..not realizing that there will not be any more income after spending that money.  this is where cities, states become poor and broken down...it's because the politicians are not looking for your best interest...the y're not promoting self-sufficiency nor jobs...they want to keep you poor and yet, still ask for your votes by saying, "..see, i'm working for you by giving you welfare money!"   when nobody works because the lack of jobs, the life of crime rises...with no income tax to build the city, your property value lessens (your streets don't get clean or repair, no one to take care of parks and recreations, and all other things that derives from income taxes) and businesses gets shut down because nobody can afford food, services and it's enjoyments.

Bro


It’s about getting a good fair deal
Trump talks about this all the time
I even agree with trump
That the USA is being taken advantage of

The Foxconn and amazon are not a good fair deal
Open your eyes

Amazon is already paying zero federal tax
Title: Re: Liberals and their understanding of economic...
Post by: w1s3m0n on February 26, 2019, 08:08:39 PM
You cannot educate the liberals who lack a clear understanding of simple economics because they are blinded by their idealism.  I gave a precise example using Mao who was so idealistic he allow MILLIONS of Chinese to starve to death because of idealism.  Mao wasn't willing to be PRAGMATIC and work with the WEST to create jobs.  It wasn't until Deng became more powerful and Mao's power wane did China even saw a glimmer of hope.  What we know today about LEADERSHIP is it must have these three components:
1) Servant mindset to stakeholders,
2) Pragmatic to problem-solving, and
3) Transformative towards the prosperity of the collective.

AOC philosophy and those like her will demonstrate a lack of PRAGMATISM and lack of TRANSFORMATION .  Those like AOC will believe they are serving their stakeholders but it will not result in PROBLEM-SOLVING or PROSPERITY.  Therein lies the problem with SOCIAL-LIBERALISM today.  Sadly, the path to hell is paved with good intention...cl iche but applies so well.



at this point, it's all about politics...lib erals will say, $3billion is alot of money, use it for the community, cut down taxes and etc (same as AOC addressed amazon)..not realizing that there will not be any more income after spending that money.  this is where cities, states become poor and broken down...it's because the politicians are not looking for your best interest...the y're not promoting self-sufficiency nor jobs...they want to keep you poor and yet, still ask for your votes by saying, "..see, i'm working for you by giving you welfare money!"   when nobody works because the lack of jobs, the life of crime rises...with no income tax to build the city, your property value lessens (your streets don't get clean or repair, no one to take care of parks and recreations, and all other things that derives from income taxes) and businesses gets shut down because nobody can afford food, services and it's enjoyments.
Title: Re: Liberals and their understanding of economic...
Post by: w1s3m0n on February 26, 2019, 08:21:05 PM
Here are Amazon stats in 2018:

1) 238.88B in revenue
2) 27B EBITDA
3) 4.33% Net Profit Margin

https://www.macrotrends.net/stocks/charts/AMZN/amazon/profit-margins (https://www.macrotrends.net/stocks/charts/AMZN/amazon/profit-margins)

Amazon makes $0.0433 cents on a dollar.  Name another organization who is willing to do this?  Most people want a quarter on the dollar.  I bet you won't work for 4 cents on a dollar.  The reason why Amazon is killing everyone because Amazon is not focused on profit, it focuses on market domination via marginal cost theory. 

Come on you are suppose to be the accountant/financial experts on this forum.  Do your math bro before speaking out loud like a person who has no business savvy.

Bro


It’s about getting a good fair deal
Trump talks about this all the time
I even agree with trump
That the USA is being taken advantage of

The Foxconn and amazon are not a good fair deal
Open your eyes

Amazon is already paying zero federal tax
Title: Re: Liberals and their understanding of economic...
Post by: hmgROCK on February 26, 2019, 09:57:44 PM
Here are Amazon stats in 2018:

1) 238.88B in revenue
2) 27B EBITDA
3) 4.33% Net Profit Margin

https://www.macrotrends.net/stocks/charts/AMZN/amazon/profit-margins (https://www.macrotrends.net/stocks/charts/AMZN/amazon/profit-margins)

Amazon makes $0.0433 cents on a dollar.  Name another organization who is willing to do this?  Most people want a quarter on the dollar.  I bet you won't work for 4 cents on a dollar.  The reason why Amazon is killing everyone because Amazon is not focused on profit, it focuses on market domination via marginal cost theory. 

Come on you are suppose to be the accountant/financial experts on this forum.  Do your math bro before speaking out loud like a person who has no business savvy.

lol, bro why you soo mad???

i must admit, amazon they got some good accountant, probably better than me
but i will tell you what they did, because I USED TO DO IT WHEN I WAS WORKING IN ACCOUNTING

we will just use simple number and zero for simple sake

amazon made $11,000,000,000   corporate tax rate was 35%

$11,000,000,000  x  .35%=  $3,850,000,000  <<<<this is the tax they were paying before the cut

with now with the trump tax cut

$11,000,000,000  x   .21%=  $2,310,000,000   <<< this is the tax they are paying

after that

1.  paid your CEO, give out bonus to tops
2.  buy back your stock
3.  increase your deprecation expense
4.  get tax freebie (like new york was willing to offer zero tax)
5.  keep writing stuff off
6.. etc.. many loophole

and there you have it

zero federal tax

i know THIS CUZ I USED TO DO IT WHEN I WAS WORKING IN ACCOUNTING


when you got cities offering zero tax and tax break for you to move in and open a shop
that how you paid zero tax, IT'S NOT ROCKET SCIENCE, YOU CAN FIGURE THIS OUT, DON'T NEED TO BE AN ACCOUNTANT

Title: Re: Liberals and their understanding of economic...
Post by: w1s3m0n on February 27, 2019, 12:48:15 AM
You are not telling the whole story.  From 2012-2017 Amazon spent too much money on R&D and in human capital.  Their net profit was almost ZERO.  Yes, they paid their people handsomely and those people paid their fair share of taxes.

Now if you really want to address the REAL issue, then the REAL issue is social security tax cap at 132k and a dividend tax rate at 15%.  If I was the master of the universe I would lift the social security tax cap so people making more than 132k continues to pay more taxes.  I would also remove the dividend tax rate and tax it at the income rate.  In addition, I would adjust the wash sale regulation so normal people are not handcuffed to wash sale regulation and give them equal footing to day traders.  The whole idea behind the dividend tax rate is a scam.  The concept behind it originally was to avoid people gambling on Wallstreet and to invest.  Guess what, the daytraders/hedge funder traders are gambling our money on Wallstreet and making a killing.  Equalize the playing field with LESS REGULATION.

Also, BUILD JOBS...DON'T KILL JOBS...JOB KILLING IS STUPID. 


lol, bro why you soo mad???

i must admit, amazon they got some good accountant, probably better than me
but i will tell you what they did, because I USED TO DO IT WHEN I WAS WORKING IN ACCOUNTING

we will just use simple number and zero for simple sake

amazon made $11,000,000,000   corporate tax rate was 35%

$11,000,000,000  x  .35%=  $3,850,000,000  <<<<this is the tax they were paying before the cut

with now with the trump tax cut

$11,000,000,000  x   .21%=  $2,310,000,000   <<< this is the tax they are paying

after that

1.  paid your CEO, give out bonus to tops
2.  buy back your stock
3.  increase your deprecation expense
4.  get tax freebie (like new york was willing to offer zero tax)
5.  keep writing stuff off
6.. etc.. many loophole

and there you have it

zero federal tax

i know THIS CUZ I USED TO DO IT WHEN I WAS WORKING IN ACCOUNTING


when you got cities offering zero tax and tax break for you to move in and open a shop
that how you paid zero tax, IT'S NOT ROCKET SCIENCE, YOU CAN FIGURE THIS OUT, DON'T NEED TO BE AN ACCOUNTANT

Title: Re: Liberals and their understanding of economic...
Post by: Gucci K on February 27, 2019, 09:47:14 AM
You cannot educate the liberals who lack a clear understanding of simple economics because they are blinded by their idealism.  I gave a precise example using Mao who was so idealistic he allow MILLIONS of Chinese to starve to death because of idealism.  Mao wasn't willing to be PRAGMATIC and work with the WEST to create jobs.  It wasn't until Deng became more powerful and Mao's power wane did China even saw a glimmer of hope.  What we know today about LEADERSHIP is it must have these three components:
1) Servant mindset to stakeholders,
2) Pragmatic to problem-solving, and
3) Transformative towards the prosperity of the collective.

AOC philosophy and those like her will demonstrate a lack of PRAGMATISM and lack of TRANSFORMATION .  Those like AOC will believe they are serving their stakeholders but it will not result in PROBLEM-SOLVING or PROSPERITY.  Therein lies the problem with SOCIAL-LIBERALISM today.  Sadly, the path to hell is paved with good intention...cl iche but applies so well.
quite the truth...becaus e they weren't selective with the companies nor the work that was available, consumers paid hundreds of dollars for items "made in china"! ha!

Title: Re: Liberals and their understanding of economic...
Post by: hmgROCK on February 27, 2019, 01:05:33 PM


Now if you really want to address the REAL issue, then the REAL issue is social security tax cap at 132k and a dividend tax rate at 15%.  If I was the master of the universe I would lift the social security tax cap so people making more than 132k continues to pay more taxes.  I would also remove the dividend tax rate and tax it at the income rate.  In addition, I would adjust the wash sale regulation so normal people are not handcuffed to wash sale regulation and give them equal footing to day traders.  The whole idea behind the dividend tax rate is a scam.  The concept behind it originally was to avoid people gambling on Wallstreet and to invest.  Guess what, the daytraders/hedge funder traders are gambling our money on Wallstreet and making a killing.  Equalize the playing field with LESS REGULATION.


to many, social security is consider a socialism program
i mean it's in the name itself:   SOCIAL
giving money to poor, old, and disable who can't work


daymee

why you going against your belief? that you been preaching and bashing???
i guess social program do work after all
don't worry, when you get old, you will get it


Title: Re: Liberals and their understanding of economic...
Post by: hmgROCK on February 27, 2019, 01:08:57 PM
quite the truth...becaus e they weren't selective with the companies nor the work that was available, consumers paid hundreds of dollars for items "made in china"! ha!


(https://cdn.cheapism.com/images/trump-clothing-china.max-784x410.jpg)
Title: Re: Liberals and their understanding of economic...
Post by: w1s3m0n on February 27, 2019, 07:37:11 PM
You are right, social programs are VERY important.  You are right, we must be compassionate to our fellow citizens who are poor, old, and disable who cannot work.  Now let me ask you this - if Amazon HQ2 opens in NYC area, a lot of jobs will be created.  Many people will have a job, and when they get paid, Amazon will pay 50% of the social security for the worker, and the worker will pay 50% of social security.  The poor, old, and disabled who cannot work, will now have income.  So what happens when those able to work don't have a job?  The poor, old, and disabled cannot depend on social security.  Saying no to job creation is saying no to social security.  Job creation is HUMAN DIGNITY AT WORK...

I GIVE UP.  The F'ng education system screw all of you millennials so bad you cannot even connect the dots of a 2-layer critical thinking scheme.  If you got a college degree, tell them to give you a refund.



to many, social security is consider a socialism program
i mean it's in the name itself:   SOCIAL
giving money to poor, old, and disable who can't work


daymee

why you going against your belief? that you been preaching and bashing???
i guess social program do work after all
don't worry, when you get old, you will get it
Title: Re: Liberals and their understanding of economic...
Post by: hmgROCK on February 27, 2019, 10:33:42 PM
You are right, social programs are VERY important.  You are right, we must be compassionate to our fellow citizens who are poor, old, and disable who cannot work.  Now let me ask you this - if Amazon HQ2 opens in NYC area, a lot of jobs will be created.  Many people will have a job, and when they get paid, Amazon will pay 50% of the social security for the worker, and the worker will pay 50% of social security.  The poor, old, and disabled who cannot work, will now have income.  So what happens when those able to work don't have a job?  The poor, old, and disabled cannot depend on social security.  Saying no to job creation is saying no to social security.  Job creation is HUMAN DIGNITY AT WORK...

I GIVE UP.  The F'ng education system screw all of you millennials so bad you cannot even connect the dots of a 2-layer critical thinking scheme.  If you got a college degree, tell them to give you a refund.

damn bro, why you gotta drop the F bomb
we are just talking man

also your employer matches 100% of your social security and medicare
not 50%, dollar for dollar
you going be like that is a great thing,
ERRR... NO.... paid your worker low than you won't have to match alot
federal minimum wage is $7.25  x 1.45%(medicare rate)=  10 Cent ish
employer matchines 10 cent for a total of 20 CENT!!!!!!
WOOOT

I KNOW THIS BECAUSE I USED TO DO THIS TO MANY PEOPLE
 :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'(




IT'S ALL ABOUT BEING FAIRNESS
THEY TAUGHT THAT IN SCHOOL, REMEMBER
IF YOU HAVE 20 APPLE, YOU SHARE THEM TO YOUR CLASSMATE..... right???
hahaha, that not how it work in the real world

Title: Re: Liberals and their understanding of economic...
Post by: w1s3m0n on February 27, 2019, 11:47:41 PM
Tou works for Amazon.  For simplicity, we'll say Amazon matched dollar for dollar for Tou and Tou paid 1 dollar and so Amazon paid 1 dollar to match.  Tou now has 2 dollars in social security.  How much did Tou contribute to the $2?  50%.  How much did Amazon contribute to the $2?  50%.  Needless to say, your attempt to correct me is a complete red herring.  You know people use red herring when they got nothing.

Instead of talking idealism, we need to talk about pragmatism and practicality.  Is life fair?  The answer to that is an astounding NO.  Is the wage distribution fair?  Absolutely not...there is huge income inequality.  What dictates a person's wage?  Skill and experience.  Why should a person make more?  Skill and experience.  The law of supply and demand has and will always be in effect when it comes to the labor market.  Trying to fix the labor market with regulation is not how it should be done.  What should be done is to create a booming economy that raises the demand for labor and as a result, wages raises.  The other way is to cause period of inflation but the rich will capitalize on this the most like in the 1970-1980...thank you DFL and GOP for inflation.

The whole AMAZON HQ2 is a complete debacle by the "regressive" left.  The pragmatic left would have negotiated the deal then work towards better economic means.  I am floored about how denying jobs makes NYC more prosperous.

You play the stock market.  Do you understand what money flow means?  What happens when there is no money flow?  The stock stinks.  What happens when there is no influx of jobs?  The wage drops.  Do you want wage growth?  Bring more jobs.  The level of analysis to be done must be MULTI-FACTORIAL because the reality we exist in is a HIGH-DIMENSIONALITY space.  So doing single factor analysis or even 2-factor analysis doesn't give you enough insight into fixing society.  1 or 2 factors only tell you a problem exists...but doesn't tell you how to solve it.  Which is why policy people f'ck sh1t up all the time... single or double factor analysis don't always tell you how to solve the difficult problem...it only helps you identify there is a problem.

My recommendation to all millennial who wish to solve the world problems, they become an astute student of quality and complexity science.

damn bro, why you gotta drop the F bomb
we are just talking man

also your employer matches 100% of your social security and medicare
not 50%, dollar for dollar
you going be like that is a great thing,
ERRR... NO.... paid your worker low than you won't have to match alot
federal minimum wage is $7.25  x 1.45%(medicare rate)=  10 Cent ish
employer matchines 10 cent for a total of 20 CENT!!!!!!
WOOOT

I KNOW THIS BECAUSE I USED TO DO THIS TO MANY PEOPLE
 :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'(




IT'S ALL ABOUT BEING FAIRNESS
THEY TAUGHT THAT IN SCHOOL, REMEMBER
IF YOU HAVE 20 APPLE, YOU SHARE THEM TO YOUR CLASSMATE..... right???
hahaha, that not how it work in the real world

Title: Re: Liberals and their understanding of economic...
Post by: w1s3m0n on February 28, 2019, 12:06:35 AM
"If you work hard and you don't give up, you can do anything." - Lady Gaga.  That girl is smart.
Title: Re: Liberals and their understanding of economic...
Post by: Gucci K on February 28, 2019, 09:35:29 AM
damn bro, why you gotta drop the F bomb
we are just talking man

also your employer matches 100% of your social security and medicare
not 50%, dollar for dollar
you going be like that is a great thing,
ERRR... NO.... paid your worker low than you won't have to match alot
federal minimum wage is $7.25  x 1.45%(medicare rate)=  10 Cent ish
employer matchines 10 cent for a total of 20 CENT!!!!!!
WOOOT

I KNOW THIS BECAUSE I USED TO DO THIS TO MANY PEOPLE
 :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'(




IT'S ALL ABOUT BEING FAIRNESS
THEY TAUGHT THAT IN SCHOOL, REMEMBER
IF YOU HAVE 20 APPLE, YOU SHARE THEM TO YOUR CLASSMATE..... right???
hahaha, that not how it work in the real world


LOL...here's the problem with liberals..they think they can retire on social security alone, because they think government owes them.  they think that social security has this unlimited amount of money that they get paid equal to what everyone else is getting, for those who are retired.  fact of the matter is if you apply for social security now, they will base it on the amount of your contribution to social security.  if you haven't worked a day in your life, you better be mentally retarded, born incapacitated and/or some qualifying disability, in order to receive social security benefits.  And using amazon's example provided by the wiseman...peop le who work for amazon receives great benefits: the financial security added to retirement (401K, matched by company, life and disability paid by company)...the ability to OWN amazon via Restricted Stocks Units - how would you like to have "Owner of Amazon" on your resume? plus many other crucial benefits (Healthcare, time offs, maternity, holidays and etc)...not to mention the best benefit of all...DISCOUNTS!  :D ;D ha!

speaking of fairness...how about splitting your hard earned $20 among your 30 classmates? if you're smart you would rather sell them apples.
Title: Re: Liberals and their understanding of economic...
Post by: Believe_N_Me on April 03, 2019, 02:20:35 AM
Meanwhile, Wisconsin taxpayers are forced to pay $4.5 billion to Foxconn to bribe them into building a factory near Milwaukee.  That's how conservatives make jobs happen.

You're obviously clueless to the fact that a lot of Milwaukee residents could use jobs AND so could residents who lost out on Amazon because of AOC.
Title: Re: Liberals and their understanding of economic...
Post by: Believe_N_Me on April 03, 2019, 02:26:17 AM
foxconn is only going do research only now
don't know how many job, but it's not going be 13,000
they not going do what they say they going do in the first place
this is what we call a classic BAIT AND SWITCH
Us Wisconsinite got made a fool, probably going get laugh at



https://thehill.com/opinion/technology/431003-wisconsins-bad-deal-with-foxconn-is-a-lesson-for-other-states

Two years ago, Taiwanese tech company Foxconn promised to construct a $10 billion factory and create up to 13,000 jobs in the southeast portion of the Wisconsin
. Last month, however, the company announced it was altering its plans for the factory. Although the company still intends to build a facility, it is unclear how many and what types of workers that facility would hold.

Oh right. Because it's better to have companies that only pay entry-level. God forbid there are any companies that offer employment for those with skills!

Wisconsin needs to keep the talent in their state instead of pushing them out to other tech states.
Title: Re: Liberals and their understanding of economic...
Post by: Believe_N_Me on April 03, 2019, 02:30:37 AM
Brainwashed by the Left! It's no wonder they advocate late-term abortion and the right to die.

Too many idiots in their camp who should die and be replaced by complacent immigrants south of the border.
Title: Re: Liberals and their understanding of economic...
Post by: YAX on April 03, 2019, 10:47:35 AM
 :2funny:
You're obviously clueless to the fact that a lot of Milwaukee residents could use jobs AND so could residents who lost out on Amazon because of AOC.
Really?  A lot of them need jobs and this is how they'll get it? By bribing a company?  I bet if they just gave that money to the people who needed it, they'd be better off.
Title: Re: Liberals and their understanding of economic...
Post by: w1s3m0n on April 05, 2019, 09:58:04 PM
Oh right. Because it's better to have companies that only pay entry-level. God forbid there are any companies that offer employment for those with skills!

Wisconsin needs to keep the talent in their state instead of pushing them out to other tech states.

NO kidding!  Wisconsin is a NET EXPORTER of ENGINEERING/SCIENCE Talent.