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Relationship => Marriage & Family Life => Topic started by: Dok_Champa on July 05, 2019, 12:46:46 PM

Title: Thaub Laus Nkauj Mos Ab
Post by: Dok_Champa on July 05, 2019, 12:46:46 PM
I get sick to my stomach when I see things like this.  I don't mind someone closer to your age but come on, that's just a kid.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JjHKXF3RkbE (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JjHKXF3RkbE)

Tus txiv neeg no yog leejtwg tus txiv los yog kwvtij ua li cas mus tim nplog zoo li mus saib nkauj mos ab xwb...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7yiid5pppPQ (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7yiid5pppPQ)

Cov txiv neej hmoob coj zoo li no mas dhuav tiag tiag li!  Yes, I'm venting.  See, if I don't see, out of sight out of mind but when I see it, I need to vent or else I'm going to get high blood pressure which I don't need.

Title: Re: Thaub Laus Nkauj Mos Ab
Post by: Reporter on July 05, 2019, 09:13:17 PM
She looks mature enough.

When we are there and they know we are from America, they love us. Some even let go their local boyfriends. That's why those guys always feel threatened when we are there.

I like  his shirt though: MURICA.
Title: Re: Thaub Laus Nkauj Mos Ab
Post by: Fancee on July 09, 2019, 09:47:37 AM
Kuv los yeej xu xu siab rau lawv thiab os.
Ntuj e!
Title: Re: Thaub Laus Nkauj Mos Ab
Post by: Dok_Champa on July 09, 2019, 11:09:16 AM
She looks mature enough.

When we are there and they know we are from America, they love us. Some even let go their local boyfriends. That's why those guys always feel threatened when we are there.

I like  his shirt though: MURICA.
I don't know if Hmong people will ever get rid of this backward thinking because people tolerate it, even people who should know better.  Maybe because it's not your child so who cares right? 
Title: Re: Thaub Laus Nkauj Mos Ab
Post by: Reporter on July 09, 2019, 02:12:42 PM
I'm not saying I approve of this. I'm not saying I'm going to be doing this. I'm not even doing this. I was there and I didn't even do this.

But I'm saying she isn't a teenager anymore, it appears. This particular guy isn't that old, either.

I don't know if Hmong people will ever get rid of this backward thinking because people tolerate it, even people who should know better.  Maybe because it's not your child so who cares right?
Title: Re: Thaub Laus Nkauj Mos Ab
Post by: Dok_Champa on July 09, 2019, 04:35:56 PM
Interesting the video has been removed.   In the video she says she's 15 years old and I'm guessing the guy is 40+.  I understand Laos is a poor country and back in the homeland it's OK for old guys to go after young girls but still we should not tolerate this backward behaviors.  It's not right.  Never was right before, now, or in the future. 
Title: Re: Thaub Laus Nkauj Mos Ab
Post by: Reporter on July 09, 2019, 07:01:07 PM
People there have no restriction on age when it comes to relationship.

Now this one, I don't approve of.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jix7dIWGrlA (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jix7dIWGrlA)


Interesting the video has been removed.   In the video she says she's 15 years old and I'm guessing the guy is 40+.  I understand Laos is a poor country and back in the homeland it's OK for old guys to go after young girls but still we should not tolerate this backward behaviors.  It's not right.  Never was right before, now, or in the future.
Title: Re: Thaub Laus Nkauj Mos Ab
Post by: Dok_Champa on July 10, 2019, 08:31:05 AM
People there have no restriction on age when it comes to relationship.

Now this one, I don't approve of.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jix7dIWGrlA (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jix7dIWGrlA)
There's restriction on age and men starts to look at girls 14 or over differently.  Also, OG is OG doesn't matter if you're 40 or 50 or 60 or 70..leave young girls alone.
Title: Re: Thaub Laus Nkauj Mos Ab
Post by: Reporter on July 10, 2019, 06:20:28 PM
Money melts all the restrictions there. That's what I mean.

There's restriction on age and men starts to look at girls 14 or over differently.  Also, OG is OG doesn't matter if you're 40 or 50 or 60 or 70..leave young girls alone.
Title: Re: Thaub Laus Nkauj Mos Ab
Post by: Dok_Champa on July 11, 2019, 08:19:38 AM
Money melts all the restrictions there. That's what I mean.
Not true.  Before a girl starts menstruating, she is view as a "child" by our society.   Even OG predators stay away from them and parents know better to protect the child.  But as soon as she starts and body starts developing, she's game.  It's this mentality we need to change.  Just because a girl starts developing and has her woman's cycle does not make her a woman YET.  In our society, we associate a woman's cycle to being ready (ready for marriage, ready for relationship, ready to have a child, ready to tham luag nraug, etc..)  It's just sad to see these OLD OLD men treating these young young girl like they are hluas nkauj.
Title: Re: Thaub Laus Nkauj Mos Ab
Post by: Reporter on July 11, 2019, 11:52:44 AM
We can't apply modern standards to ancient practices.

The OGs are ancient; the girls there live in an ancient lifestyle. Now you can see how they get along so well. When they are together, despite their different looks, they have a similar heart, mind, and interest: mostly just the physical aspect of each other.

Not true.  Before a girl starts menstruating, she is view as a "child" by our society.   Even OG predators stay away from them and parents know better to protect the child.  But as soon as she starts and body starts developing, she's game.  It's this mentality we need to change.  Just because a girl starts developing and has her woman's cycle does not make her a woman YET.  In our society, we associate a woman's cycle to being ready (ready for marriage, ready for relationship, ready to have a child, ready to tham luag nraug, etc..)  It's just sad to see these OLD OLD men treating these young young girl like they are hluas nkauj.
Title: Re: Thaub Laus Nkauj Mos Ab
Post by: Dok_Champa on July 11, 2019, 04:33:16 PM
OG's from the US, when it comes to their own daughters know very well to apply modern standards but when others' children, they refer to ancient practices.  It's sad to see your own people exploiting your own kind and that takes the level of exploitation to a new low.  It's bad enough when other people exploits your people but when done by your own kind to one another - that's heartbreaking and sad.   



Title: Re: Thaub Laus Nkauj Mos Ab
Post by: Reporter on July 11, 2019, 08:33:05 PM
I live and let live.

Title: Re: Thaub Laus Nkauj Mos Ab
Post by: Dok_Champa on July 12, 2019, 11:41:51 AM
Li cas los kavliam tabsis yog thaum kuv pom tej tug thaub laus nrog tej tug ntxhais mos ces ua rau kuv tsis muaj qhov xu xu siab tabsis muaj qhov dhuav and tu siab nrog.  I suppose because I'm a mother and like all mothers in the world you want your children to be happy, have the choices to choose their life, their love, their destiny, and not be exploited by others.

Title: Re: Thaub Laus Nkauj Mos Ab
Post by: Cali Guy on July 13, 2019, 02:41:24 PM
OG's from the US, when it comes to their own daughters know very well to apply modern standards but when others' children, they refer to ancient practices.  It's sad to see your own people exploiting your own kind and that takes the level of exploitation to a new low.  It's bad enough when other people exploits your people but when done by your own kind to one another - that's heartbreaking and sad.   

Can’t help it, too many are hypocrites. Preaching is one thing but following it is another. I’ve seen respectable public figures behave like animals in a secluded settings.
Title: Re: Thaub Laus Nkauj Mos Ab
Post by: theking on July 15, 2019, 02:55:18 AM
There's restriction on age and men starts to look at girls 14 or over differently. 

That applies to some men but also applies to some women too and here's an example:

Teacher jailed for 20 years after having sex with 13-year-old boy

She cannot be released early for good behaviour and must serve the entire two-decade term behind bars


(https://static.independent.co.uk/s3fs-public/thumbnails/image/2019/07/14/16/ap-19193686413368.jpg?w968)
Title: Re: Thaub Laus Nkauj Mos Ab
Post by: theking on July 15, 2019, 03:02:16 AM
Money melts all the restrictions there. That's what I mean.

I don't approve of exploitation regardless of age and/or gender but...

I heard the exploitation goes both ways over there and other third world countries...So me old men and women exploit young girls and boys due to their desperation and some young people exploit the old due to their loneliness...

Even in America, there's been cases of exploitation due to similar situations.