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General Category => General Discussion => Topic started by: hmgROCK on June 11, 2018, 01:52:39 PM
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pretty sad
almost remain me of the jim crow
(https://i.imgur.com/AYfn8e5.jpg)
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The "now this" doesn't apply...A day late and a dollar short again as that store owner has already done that a few years ago (putting the "no gays allowed" sign on)...
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Read one of the signs. Many religious people tend use the first amendment, "freedom of religion " defense without knowing what it means.
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If this keeps up, it's gonna be okay not to serve Jews or Muslims too since that would be against someone's religious beliefs.
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If this keeps up, it's gonna be okay not to serve Jews or Muslims too since that would be against someone's religious beliefs.
That's why we need stricter laws regarding separation of church and state. That we don't run into these kind of problems, favoring one religion over another.
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Read one of the signs. Many religious people tend use the first amendment, "freedom of religion " defense without knowing what it means.
Does the many includes myself?
Freedom of religion is also freedom from religion.
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That's why we need stricter laws regarding separation of church and state. That we don't run into these kind of problems, favoring one religion over another.
If I don't eat chicken then what can I eat at chick fil-a?
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If I don't eat chicken then what can I eat at chick fil-a?
Fries and yogurt
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Does the many includes myself?
Freedom of religion is also freedom from religion.
So is that what you think "freedom of religion" means?
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Fries and yogurt
There you go. Change your menu to fries and yogurt for gays.
It is not discrimination when what we sell, you have no use for.
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So is that what you think "freedom of religion" means?
Does not matter what I think what it means. I did not come up with that law. I may not be with the "many" whom you are speaking of.
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no differences than this
(https://i.pinimg.com/originals/e1/49/4e/e1494e59f18001713f58531faca8d2c1.jpg)
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There you go. Change your menu to fries and yogurt for gays.
It is not discrimination when what we sell, you have no use for.
Yes there you have it. Chick fil-a sell fries and yogurt. The cake place sell cake, not straight or gay sex.
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Does not matter what I think what it means. I did not come up with that law. I may not be with the "many" whom you are speaking of.
Yes, it doesn't matter what you think it means. Apparently you don't know what it means, so yes, you are one of those. Fyi, freedom of religion does not mean freedom from religion.
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Yes, it doesn't matter what you think it means. Apparently you don't know what it means, so yes, you are one of those. Fyi, freedom of religion does not mean freedom from religion.
You tell us what it suppose to mean or shall I say, what the original law makers wanted it mean.
I shall contrast and compare it with the Christian whom you think that don't know.
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You tell us what it suppose to mean or shall I say, what the original law makers wanted it mean.
I shall contrast and compare it with the Christian whom you think that don't know.
Easy question. Do you know what it means or not? From your comments, it doesn't seem like you know.
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Easy question. Do you know what it means or not? From your comments, it doesn't seem like you know.
I already told you. It doesn't matter what I think since I don't know the law Maker's intentions when they made that law.
If you know, feel free to share so we can compare what you think it means against what it suppose to mean against the many Christians that you think you know that represent what you think they mean.
Go ahead and educate us to what you think it should means.
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I already told you. It doesn't matter what I think since I don't know the law Maker's intentions when they made that law.
If you know, feel free to share so we can compare what you think it means against what it suppose to mean against the many Christians that you think you know that represent what you think they mean.
Go ahead and educate us to what you think it should means.
It means that you have the right to practice what ever religion or lack of as long as your actions do not interfere with peace and good order.
Since refusing service to anyone because of your religion, you are interfering with peace and good order. That is when the government can step in.
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There you go. Change your menu to fries and yogurt for gays.
It is not discrimination when what we sell, you have no use for.
So was the cake place selling people or sexual service?
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I already told you. It doesn't matter what I think since I don't know the law Maker's intentions when they made that law.
If you know, feel free to share so we can compare what you think it means against what it suppose to mean against the many Christians that you think you know that represent what you think they mean.
Go ahead and educate us to what you think it should means.
we have too many religion in this world
not everyone is a christian
a quick google search say there over 4,000 plus religion out there
keep that stuff to yourself
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It means that you have the right to practice what ever religion or lack of as long as your actions do not interfere with peace and good order.
Since refusing service to anyone because of your religion, you are interfering with peace and good order. That is when the government can step in.
The forefathers disagree with you. They did not made that law just so you can practice whatever religion you may please. It was created to prevent a certain religion to go into politics, one that may suppress all other religions. Like if the Catholics holds political power, they fear that such person is a puppet to the pope.
Plus the government Respect one to have a belief but practice still being regulated by the government. If my belief is Satanism, it doesn't mean I can go out and suck your blood in peace.
Try Again
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So was the cake place selling people or sexual service?
Don't matter what they sell. Laws are not the same in different states.
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we have too many religion in this world
not everyone is a christian
a quick google search say there over 4,000 plus religion out there
keep that stuff to yourself
Keep what to myself? What am I selling you here?
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Keep what to myself? What am I selling you here?
too many god and religion
that india chick with the 8 arms
keep that to yourself
and only use science fact base
(https://i.pinimg.com/originals/3d/10/fb/3d10fb443c82a1589baf66565b05a5a6.jpg)
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too many god and religion
that india chick with the 8 arms
keep that to yourself
and only use science fact base
(https://i.pinimg.com/originals/3d/10/fb/3d10fb443c82a1589baf66565b05a5a6.jpg)
I think you should be more concern about people who sees freedom of religion and ignore the atheist stance of freedom from religion. If you read up further, looks like the dog man is opposing it.
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The forefathers disagree with you. They did not made that law just so you can practice whatever religion you may please. It was created to prevent a certain religion to go into politics, one that may suppress all other religions. Like if the Catholics holds political power, they fear that such person is a puppet to the pope.
Plus the government Respect one to have a belief but practice still being regulated by the government. If my belief is Satanism, it doesn't mean I can go out and suck your blood in peace.
Try Again
So. Do know it, you won't accept it because it also effects your religious beliefs and not just other different religious beliefs. So try again with your "I'm not serving gays because it's against my religion " defense.
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So. Do know it, you won't accept it because it also effects your religious beliefs and not just other different religious beliefs. So try again with your "I'm not serving gays because it's against my religion " defense.
I don't think I made a stance or did I? All I did was showing you that you do not know the many Christians whom you think you know of them and their stance.
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Let me give you an example.
Let's say you are the owner of a cake shop. My son shot your son in the face and went to jail for 5 years. Now he is out and I wanted you to sell me a cake to celebrate his releasing.
According to you, you must sell me that cake?
Better learn from somebody.
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Let me give you an example.
Let's say you are the owner of a cake shop. My son shot your son in the face and went to jail for 5 years. Now he is out and I wanted you to sell me a cake to celebrate his releasing.
According to you, you must sell me that cake?
Better learn from somebody.
What does that gave religion?
Now that you have shown that you won't accept it because it effect your religious beliefs, you're changing your stance now.
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What does that gave religion?
Now that you have shown that you won't accept it because it effect your religious beliefs, you're changing your stance now.
I'm showing you why the cake case from Bakersfield was won in favor of the cake owner.
It is against his religion to sell to gay a cake that will be used for a gay event.
He will sell but Don't use it to provoke his religion is the stance.
A cake is not just a good. It is the artistic value to it that is at play here.
The court rule so shush it.
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I'm showing you why the cake case from Bakersfield was won in favor of the cake owner.
It is against his religion to sell to gay a cake that will be used for a gay event.
He will sell but Don't use it to provoke his religion is the stance.
A cake is not just a good. It is the artistic value to it that is at play here.
The court rule so shush it.
Changing again?
That's not even what this topic is about. I guess when you get proven wrong, you just change your stance.
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I'm showing you why the cake case from Bakersfield was won in favor of the cake owner.
It is against his religion to sell to gay a cake that will be used for a gay event.
He will sell but Don't use it to provoke his religion is the stance.
A cake is not just a good. It is the artistic value to it that is at play here.
The court rule so shush it.
So whatever happened to
Don't matter what they sell. Laws are not the same in different states.
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So whatever happened to
You said this
"So was the cake place selling people or sexual service"
And I responded with that it doesn't matter what they sell because the judge ruling did not focus on what they sell. They focused on the artistic value of the product
Stay focus Daniel son.
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You said this
"So was the cake place selling people or sexual service"
And I responded with that it doesn't matter what they sell because the judge ruling did not focus on what they sell. They focused on the artistic value of the product
Stay focus Daniel son.
Mr. Miyagi, I know it's hard for you to understand all of this, so I'll try and make it as simple as possible. The judge ruling wasn't because of the "freedom of religion" defense. Knowing how to comprehend the context of what is being discussed is key.
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This is just one example of you changing your stance when you're proved wrong.
If I don't eat chicken then what can I eat at chick fil-a?
There you go. Change your menu to fries and yogurt for gays.
It is not discrimination when what we sell, you have no use for.
In which your argument above failed as well. Proved that you do have and offer what the customer asked for, you're just refusing service for that particular customer.
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Mr. Miyagi, I know it's hard for you to understand all of this, so I'll try and make it as simple as possible. The judge ruling wasn't because of the "freedom of religion" defense. Knowing how to comprehend the context of what is being discussed is key.
No chit Sherlock. Where did I say it was? O0
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This is just one example of you changing your stance when you're proved wrong.
In which your argument above failed as well. Proved that you do have and offer what the customer asked for, you're just refusing service for that particular customer.
Understand to why I said what I said but if you read further to what you said, my response is a teaching at it.
If it is against my religion to eat chicken, should I call discrimination because all you sell is chicken?
Don't eat chicken then go elsewhere. Can't buy cake by haters then why support haters? Go somewhere else. Why call it discrimination?
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Understand to why I said what I said but if you read further to what you said, my response is a teaching at it.
If it is against my religion to eat chicken, should I call discrimination because all you sell is chicken?
like I said above, fries and yogurt is available.
Eating cake isn't against the religion of the gay couple, that why they went to cake cake shop instead of going to a chicken farm because that know that chicken farms don't sell cakes.
Don't eat chicken then go elsewhere.
Eat whopper, go to burger king, not chik fil-a. Eat big Mac, go to McDonald's, not chik fil-a. Eat cake, then go to a cake shop. Eat red herring, then stay here for some provided by DuMa.
Can't buy cake by haters then why support haters? Go somewhere else. Why call it discrimination?
Two different actions here by two different people. Support or not support haters - done by customers. Discrimination - done by owner.
hat·er
ˈhādər/
noun
a person who greatly dislikes a specified person or thing.
dis·crim·i·na·tion
dəˌskriməˈnāSH(ə)n/
noun
1.
the unjust or prejudicial treatment of different categories of people or things, especially on the grounds of race, age, or sex.
Why call it discrimination?
Because that's what it is. An action that was done will remain what it is regardless of anyone reporting it or not.
Ex: I killed a person in front of you. You ran away with the choice of reporting it to the cops or not. Either way, the fact is that I killed a person in front of you.
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If it is against my religion to eat chicken, should I call discrimination because all you sell is chicken?
No, because food don't discriminate, people do.
If it is against my religion to eat books, I would go to chik fil-a and eat something there and not to a book store that only sell books. If it is against my religion to go to a gay wedding, then I would just attend straight weddings and not gay weddings, but I won't deny entrance to anyone attending the gay wedding. If it is against my religion to bake a cake, them I would not be a baker and open up a cake shop. If it is against my religion to celebrate immoral marriage, then I would not have wedding cakes as part of my service. Because I run the risk of participating in an immoral marriage whether I know it or not. An act of sin is an act of sin even if I choose to ignore some parts of that act of sin.
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Duma
How bout you stop eating bacon and shrimp first
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Blah blah blah
Supreme Court still sided with the cake guy. Your Kung Fu is still weak so STFU :2funny:
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Duma
How bout you stop eating bacon and shrimp first
The hell you talking about?
Me stop eating any food got nothing to do with the topic at hand.
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No, because food don't discriminate, people do.
If it is against my religion to eat books, I would go to chik fil-a and eat something there and not to a book store that only sell books. If it is against my religion to go to a gay wedding, then I would just attend straight weddings and not gay weddings, but I won't deny entrance to anyone attending the gay wedding. If it is against my religion to bake a cake, them I would not be a baker and open up a cake shop. If it is against my religion to celebrate immoral marriage, then I would not have wedding cakes as part of my service. Because I run the risk of participating in an immoral marriage whether I know it or not. An act of sin is an act of sin even if I choose to ignore some parts of that act of sin.
Well this cake maker who just won his case said he don't discriminate so you are still wrong. Some people don't discriminate.
I already told you. It is not what they sell. Unlike other goods, a cake is for occasion that has an artistic value and a message behind it. Supreme Court is in his favor for a reason. Learn from it cuz obviously, you are not smarter than the supreme Court. :2funny:
"Baker who refused to make cake for gay wedding: 'I don't discriminate'
Jack Phillips maintained he would 'serve everybody that comes in my shop,' but that he wouldn't 'create cakes for every message.'"
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/ncna880061 (https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/ncna880061)
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Blah blah blah
Supreme Court still sided with the cake guy. Your Kung Fu is still weak so STFU :2funny:
But was still strong enough defeat yours, resulting in your use of ad hominem attack.
There's no need for you to admit defeat, your actions speak for itself.
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But was still strong enough defeat yours, resulting in your use of ad hominem attack.
There's no need for you to admit defeat, your actions speak for itself.
No need to cry foul play. You are arguing against the supreme Court and lost. What was the latest verdict for that Colorado cake Baker guy? The court found in favor for his case.
He is an artist just like a painter or any other artist. So you telling me that the government should tell a cake Baker what to bake or a painter what to paint?
Blah blah blah, your Kung Fu is still weak. :2funny:
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The hell you talking about?
Me stop eating any food got nothing to do with the topic at hand.
It’s against your religion to eat pork and shrimp
Don’t be a hypocrite
If you going hate the gays because it’s against your religion
From now here on
Better see you eat no more bacon
Stop these double standards
Leviticus 11:7-8
And the pig, because it parts the hoof and is cloven-footed but does not chew the cud, is unclean to you. You shall not eat any of their flesh, and you shall not touch their carcasses; they are unclean to you
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It’s against your religion to eat pork and shrimp
Don’t be a hypocrite
If you going hate the gays because it’s against your religion
From now here on
Better see you eat no more bacon
Stop these double standards
Leviticus 11:7-8
And the pig, because it parts the hoof and is cloven-footed but does not chew the cud, is unclean to you. You shall not eat any of their flesh, and you shall not touch their carcasses; they are unclean to you
Where I say I hate gays?
And you better start learning about another's man religion because you missed the whole boat. Lev is old testament. There is a new testament book too you know. :2funny:
And Jesus said,
Mark 17:17-19
After he had left the crowd and entered the house, his disciples asked him about this parable. 18 “Are you so dull?” he asked. “Don’t you see that nothing that enters a person from the outside can defile them? 19 For it doesn’t go into their heart but into their stomach, and then out of the body.” (In saying this, Jesus declared all foods clean.)
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Where I say I hate gays?
And you better start learning about another's man religion because you missed the whole boat. Lev is old testament. There is a new testament book too you know. :2funny:
And Jesus said,
Mark 17:17-19
After he had left the crowd and entered the house, his disciples asked him about this parable. 18 “Are you so dull?” he asked. “Don’t you see that nothing that enters a person from the outside can defile them? 19 For it doesn’t go into their heart but into their stomach, and then out of the body.” (In saying this, Jesus declared all foods clean.)
joel osteen about pork
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G3IsbqvIQJk (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G3IsbqvIQJk)
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joel osteen about pork
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G3IsbqvIQJk (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G3IsbqvIQJk)
Joel is not god.
What Joel Osteen Needs to Learn About Scripture and Pork
Texas mega-preacher shows astounding lack of biblical understanding and his ability to be duped by HSUS.
http://www.prairiefarmer.com/blogs-what-joel-osteen-needs-to-learn-about-scripture-and-pork-1000 (http://www.prairiefarmer.com/blogs-what-joel-osteen-needs-to-learn-about-scripture-and-pork-1000)
Try again or let me school you more about it. Just say that you are thirsty to know and I'll start you out with your research.
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Joel is not god.
What Joel Osteen Needs to Learn About Scripture and Pork
Texas mega-preacher shows astounding lack of biblical understanding and his ability to be duped by HSUS.
http://www.prairiefarmer.com/blogs-what-joel-osteen-needs-to-learn-about-scripture-and-pork-1000 (http://www.prairiefarmer.com/blogs-what-joel-osteen-needs-to-learn-about-scripture-and-pork-1000)
Try again or let me school you more about it. Just say that you are thirsty to know and I'll start you out with your research.
joel osteen is a preacher
he teaches from the Scripture
got millions of follower
including
obama and trump
his church is a baseketball stadium
yours church can barely get 100 people in every sunday
think before you open your mouth
you don't know anything
just mocking others
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dammmm
even the lord himself
god
say no no no
Isaiah 66:17
“Those who sanctify and purify themselves to go into the gardens, following one in the midst, eating pig's flesh and the abomination and mice, shall come to an end together, declares the Lord.
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says right there in the bible
clear as a days
Deuteronomy 14:1-29
“You are the sons of the Lord your God. You shall not cut yourselves or make any baldness on your foreheads for the dead. For you are a people holy to the Lord your God, and the Lord has chosen you to be a people for his treasured possession, out of all the peoples who are on the face of the earth. “You shall not eat any abomination. These are the animals you may eat: the ox, the sheep, the goat, the deer, the gazelle, the roebuck, the wild goat, the ibex, the antelope, and the mountain sheep. ...
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Why don't you quote one that God given to Noah?
God tells Noah to eat all.
Who did Moses gave those law to? God gave Moses them laws to give to his Jewish people but why? Easy answer. As a punishment for being wicked and idol worshipper.
It stayed with Jewish as a custom until Jesus shows up.
Now as yourself. Who are Christians? They are the new group that came after Jesus. If Christians follows that mosiac law of not eating pork then are they still Christian? If Jewish people eat pork, are they still Jewish?
I don't talk out of my azz. I bring you link that supplement to what I say.
"Although Christianity is also an Abrahamic religion, most of its adherents are permitted to consume pork – justified by Peter's vision of a sheet with animals and several verses of the New Testament which guides Christians with the Good News of the Gospels. Since Christianity lost most of its roots from Judaism, Christians are not bound to some restrictions of Mosaic Law. "
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religious_restrictions_on_the_consumption_of_pork
Now you and the rest of the goons like yourself may know so you sounds more intelligent on the next round. :2funny:
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Why don't you quote one that God given to Noah?
God tells Noah to eat all.
Who did Moses gave those law to? God gave Moses them laws to give to his Jewish people but why? Easy answer. As a punishment for being wicked and idol worshipper.
It stayed with Jewish as a custom until Jesus shows up.
Now as yourself. Who are Christians? They are the new group that came after Jesus. If Christians follows that mosiac law of not eating pork then are they still Christian? If Jewish people eat pork, are they still Jewish?
I don't talk out of my azz. I bring you link that supplement to what I say.
"Although Christianity is also an Abrahamic religion, most of its adherents are permitted to consume pork – justified by Peter's vision of a sheet with animals and several verses of the New Testament which guides Christians with the Good News of the Gospels. Since Christianity lost most of its roots from Judaism, Christians are not bound to some restrictions of Mosaic Law. "
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religious_restrictions_on_the_consumption_of_pork
Now you and the rest of the goons like yourself may know so you sounds more intelligent on the next round. :2funny:
lol suree
god teaches noah about clean and unclean animals
from the man himself
god
he himself, say no unclean animal
not me
god say s no no no
Genesis 7:2
Take with you seven pairs of every kind of clean animal, a male and its mate, and one pair of every kind of unclean animal, a male and its mate,
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lol suree
god teaches noah about clean and unclean animals
from the man himself
god
he himself, say no unclean animal
not me
god say s no no no
Genesis 7:2
Take with you seven pairs of every kind of clean animal, a male and its mate, and one pair of every kind of unclean animal, a male and its mate,
Your Bible quote did not say what he can eat or not eat.
Try Genesis 9
Then God blessed Noah and his sons, saying to them, “Be fruitful and increase in number and fill the earth. 2 The fear and dread of you will fall on all the beasts of the earth, and on all the birds in the sky, on every creature that moves along the ground, and on all the fish in the sea; they are given into your hands. 3 Everything that lives and moves about will be food for you. Just as I gave you the green plants, I now give you everything
Try Again harder before you laugh :2funny:
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Your Bible quote did not say what he can eat or not eat.
Try Genesis 9
Then God blessed Noah and his sons, saying to them, “Be fruitful and increase in number and fill the earth. 2 The fear and dread of you will fall on all the beasts of the earth, and on all the birds in the sky, on every creature that moves along the ground, and on all the fish in the sea; they are given into your hands. 3 Everything that lives and moves about will be food for you. Just as I gave you the green plants, I now give you everything
Try Again harder before you laugh :2funny:
Lol
Dude god teaches Noah about clean and unclean animal
He knows which animal to eat and not eat
Eat only the clean one duhhhhh
Ain’t rocket science
Bible say no no no
To unclean animal
This includes pork and shrimp
As state from the lev and many verse above
Even Joel osteen himself say
No to pork and shrimp
So. It is against your religion to eat baby back ribs
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Bunches of hypocrite
Bet that dude probably marry twice
Can’t even practice what you preach
And he going go saying it’s against his religion
Hypocrite
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Lol
Dude god teaches Noah about clean and unclean animal
He knows which animal to eat and not eat
Eat only the clean one duhhhhh
Ain’t rocket science
Bible say no no no
To unclean animal
This includes pork and shrimp
As state from the lev and many verse above
Even Joel osteen himself say
No to pork and shrimp
So. It is against your religion to eat baby back ribs
Did you read at the end verse 3 of chapter 9 gen that I shared?
Clear as day, god told Noah to eat all.
Not my problem if you don't know how to read the Bible right.
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duma
ok, let's use some common sense rational reasoning
that hopefully, you and me can agree one
we both know the bible say do this/and than an counter verse don't do it
agree?
as in this pork and shrimp thing
it say eat/don't eat
agree?
there always a counter verse for a verse
agree?
soo my point is
is it better to be safe than sorry???
are you going eat that pork and risk not going to heaven
or
you going just not eat it at all
and eat something else
from a common reasoning religious point
you might not want to eat those unclean animal
there's a chance god won't let you enter his kingdom, because you are unclean.
agree??
better safe than sorry
agree?
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Bunches of hypocrite
Bet that dude probably marry twice
Can’t even practice what you preach
And he going go saying it’s against his religion
Hypocrite
Joel is not god. He only has 48000 followers. He don't represent nobody but his crew of few.
Even other sectors are debunking him like how I'm doing it to you. :2funny:
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Joel is not god. He only has 48000 followers. He don't represent nobody but his crew of few.
Even other sectors are debunking him like how I'm doing it to you. :2funny:
this dude has 400k+++ suscriber on youtube
millions of people over the world tune in and listen to his show
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCvxWyn4rfcI2H9APhfUIB1Q (https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCvxWyn4rfcI2H9APhfUIB1Q)
:2funny: :2funny: :2funny: :2funny:
while your church barely can get 100 member to show up on sunday
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duma
ok, let's use some common sense rational reasoning
that hopefully, you and me can agree one
we both know the bible say do this/and than an counter verse don't do it
agree?
as in this pork and shrimp thing
it say eat/don't eat
agree?
there always a counter verse for a verse
agree?
soo my point is
is it better to be safe than sorry???
are you going eat that pork and risk not going to heaven
or
you going just not eat it at all
and eat something else
from a common reasoning religious point
you might not want to eat those unclean animal
there's a chance god won't let you enter his kingdom, because you are unclean.
agree??
better safe than sorry
agree?
First off, your Bible reading cherry picking skills are still weak.
Secondly, the Bible is not just a one chapter book.
Third, I have already schooled you to learn about the transition of the Bible and why such laws were important during that era in time. At the end of the book or story, we see the Christian eating all.
Ta da
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this dude has 400k+++ suscriber on youtube
millions of people over the world tune in and listen to his show
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCvxWyn4rfcI2H9APhfUIB1Q (https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCvxWyn4rfcI2H9APhfUIB1Q)
:2funny: :2funny: :2funny: :2funny:
while your church barely can get 100 member to show up on sunday
Well Justin beiber has 10 times as much followers on YouTube so maybe you should believe in him too? :2funny:
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First off, your Bible reading cherry picking skills are still weak.
Secondly, the Bible is not just a one chapter book.
Third, I have already schooled you to learn about the transition of the Bible and why such laws were important during that era in time. At the end of the book or story, we see the Christian eating all.
Ta da
so don't eat pork
better safe than sorry right?
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Well Justin beiber has 10 times as much followers on YouTube so maybe you should believe in him too? :2funny:
dude
he's famous
baby baby ohhhhhh
got tons of follower
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duma
c'mon brother
join this hmong atheist for some brat and beer
brat spell=PH=pebhmong
(https://i.imgur.com/e7oI5Iu.jpg)
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so don't eat pork
better safe than sorry right?
Eat or no eat, still up to you. Just don't force your non eating pork belief on others. :2funny:
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Eat or no eat, still up to you. Just don't force your non eating pork belief on others. :2funny:
hey man,
you know what happen when you don't listen to god
(cough) noah flood
better to be safe than sorry
i won't listen to jesus (the son of god)
i rather just listen to god, himself,
the man, himself
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duma
you know a long time ago
i chit you not
they use to feed prisoner
shrimp, crab, pork
because it was unclean
google if you don't believe me
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in the mean time
lets just enjoy these delicious brat
(https://i.imgur.com/e7oI5Iu.jpg)
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hey man,
you know what happen when you don't listen to god
(cough) noah flood
better to be safe than sorry
i won't listen to jesus (the son of god)
i rather just listen to god, himself,
the man, himself
Did god tell you that? :2funny:
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duma
you know a long time ago
i chit you not
they use to feed prisoner
shrimp, crab, pork
because it was unclean
google if you don't believe me
They fed them because it is food.
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in the mean time
lets just enjoy these delicious brat
(https://i.imgur.com/e7oI5Iu.jpg)
No God needed but your doctor will say you gonna die eating that fatty food. Being Hmong, you die faster.
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i think the reason why your church is soo mall is
you guys don't follow the bible teaching
while
joel osteen has million
cuz dude teaches from the bible
im not a preacher
but watch that joel osteen video about pork
hopefully you learn a think or two
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G3IsbqvIQJk&t=51s (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G3IsbqvIQJk&t=51s)
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i think the reason why your church is soo mall is
you guys don't follow the bible teaching
while
joel osteen has million
cuz dude teaches from the bible
im not a preacher
but watch that joel osteen video about pork
hopefully you learn a think or two
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G3IsbqvIQJk&t=51s (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G3IsbqvIQJk&t=51s)
Did you not see my link about other pastors saying Joel don't know his Bible?
Here's more
Is Joel Osteen a False Prophet?
http://www.thebiblicalworldview.org/is-joel-osteen-a-false-prophet/ (http://www.thebiblicalworldview.org/is-joel-osteen-a-false-prophet/)
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Did you not see my link about other pastors saying Joel don't know his Bible?
Here's more
Is Joel Osteen a False Prophet?
http://www.thebiblicalworldview.org/is-joel-osteen-a-false-prophet/ (http://www.thebiblicalworldview.org/is-joel-osteen-a-false-prophet/)
dude his church is bigger than yours
basketball size
there's a reason why he's good
cuz THE DUDE TEACHES FROM THE BIBLE
unlike you guys
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dude his church is bigger than yours
basketball size
there's a reason why he's good
cuz THE DUDE TEACHES FROM THE BIBLE
unlike you guys
What is my church?
Here is a hint
A million members are not enough vs Joel 48,000.
Check your facts again
You don't read there for you don't know. I provided link to read. If my link you don't want to read then I can just bull my way around like Joel.
He is good at making you feel good speech without talking about biblical scriptures. In other words, he makes up what he thinks as he goes along. After his dad died, his Mom controls the church. She appointed him. Now a female appointing? Where in the new testament does it shows this? Appoint son to control the church. Sounds fishy to me.
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What is my church?
Here is a hint
A million members are not enough vs Joel 48,000.
Check your facts again
You don't read there for you don't know. I provided link to read. If my link you don't want to read then I can just bull my way around like Joel.
He is good at making you feel good speech without talking about biblical scriptures. In other words, he makes up what he thinks as he goes along. After his dad died, his Mom controls the church. She appointed him. Now a female appointing? Where in the new testament does it shows this? Appoint son to control the church. Sounds fishy to me.
Dude
Your church has lots empty chairs
Could barely fill them up every week
People don’t even show up
Once in a blue moon
You guys are not following the teaching by god
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I know you like to wiki
Dude got millions of followers and listener
Vs your barely 100 people
Lol
He’s teaching love and not eat pork
Joel Scott Osteen (born March 5, 1963)[2] is an American televangelist based in Houston, Texas. Osteen's televised sermons are seen by over 7 million viewers weekly and over 20 million monthly in over 100 countries.[3][4] His sermons also broadcast 24 hours a day on Sirius XM Satellite Radio, Channel 128.[5][6] Osteen has written seven New York Times Best Sellers.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joel_Osteen
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Dude
Your church has lots empty chairs
Could barely fill them up every week
People don’t even show up
Once in a blue moon
You guys are not following the teaching by god
My church is world wide. Lack of participants is your assumption and not following the teaching of God is the same assumption as if I were to tell you heathens that y'all going to hell for having no God n being atheist. :2funny:
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I know you like to wiki
Dude got millions of followers and listener
Vs your barely 100 people
Lol
He’s teaching love and not eat pork
Joel Scott Osteen (born March 5, 1963)[2] is an American televangelist based in Houston, Texas. Osteen's televised sermons are seen by over 7 million viewers weekly and over 20 million monthly in over 100 countries.[3][4] His sermons also broadcast 24 hours a day on Sirius XM Satellite Radio, Channel 128.[5][6] Osteen has written seven New York Times Best Sellers.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joel_Osteen
It saids 7 millions viewers but not 7 millions members.
The Superbowl has more tv viewer than his but no membership required.
Try again. :2funny:
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His Houston chuch only has 16,800 seats. Where the millions?
Lakewood Church is a non-denominational charismatic Christian megachurch located in Houston, Texas, US. It is one of the largest congregations in the United States, averaging about 52,000 attendees per week.[1] The 16,800-seat Lakewood Church Central Campus, home to four English-language services and two Spanish-language services per week,[2] is located at the former Compaq Center.[3]
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lakewood_Church xx
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His Houston chuch only has 16,800 seats. Where the millions?
Lakewood Church is a non-denominational charismatic Christian megachurch located in Houston, Texas, US. It is one of the largest congregations in the United States, averaging about 52,000 attendees per week.[1] The 16,800-seat Lakewood Church Central Campus, home to four English-language services and two Spanish-language services per week,[2] is located at the former Compaq Center.[3]
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lakewood_Church xx
Says right there
52,000 attendee
Maybe people stand
Or whatever
Millions of fellower and listener
I think you are just jealous
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Says right there
52,000 attendee
Maybe people stand
Or whatever
Millions of fellower and listener
I think you are just jealous
Do you know what 52,000 per week is?
Now compare it with my church.
No need to be jealous here. We not trying to win a trophy or any. :2funny:
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Do you know what 52,000 per week is?
Now compare it with my church.
No need to be jealous here. We not trying to win a trophy or any. :2funny:
Lol
Damn dude
I thought you work in Silicon Valley
Though you smarter than that
I have a Netflix membership
But I don’t watch that stuff every day
Only when they have something cool
Same with church
Some people are too far/ busy/ work/ etc....
Why you think these people able to afford their own private jet
Ain’t rocket science
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No need to cry foul play. You are arguing against the supreme Court and lost. What was the latest verdict for that Colorado cake Baker guy? The court found in favor for his case.
He is an artist just like a painter or any other artist. So you telling me that the government should tell a cake Baker what to bake or a painter what to paint?
Blah blah blah, your Kung Fu is still weak. :2funny:
Don't blame the government for your own failures. I'm arguing against you your failed claims.
PS My kung fu may be weak, just not as weak as yours.
PSS Foul occurred when your attempts to "steal the ball" (failed arguments) fails and you dont have anything, so you committed a "foul" (attack my kung fu, which by the way, has nothing to do with this topic).
(https://i.pinimg.com/originals/4a/4a/78/4a4a78e24b370f9aa60272d227eb0ae7.jpg)
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Don't blame the government for your own failures. I'm arguing against you your failed claims.
PS My kung fu may be weak, just not as weak as yours.
PSS Foul occurred when your attempts to "steal the ball" (failed arguments) fails and you dont have anything, so you committed a "foul" (attack my kung fu, which by the way, has nothing to do with this topic).
(https://i.pinimg.com/originals/4a/4a/78/4a4a78e24b370f9aa60272d227eb0ae7.jpg)
Who is blaming the government?
You are so obsessed that you made a separate thread about it and guess what? You missed the reason why the supreme Court voted in favor for the cake Baker guy. :2funny:
http://www.pebhmong.com/forum/index.php/topic,394406.0.html (http://www.pebhmong.com/forum/index.php/topic,394406.0.html)
Are you smarter than the supreme Court? Who the hell are you again? :2funny:
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Who is blaming the government?
You are so obsessed that you made a separate thread about it and guess what? You missed the reason why the supreme Court voted in favor for the cake Baker guy. :2funny:
http://www.pebhmong.com/forum/index.php/topic,394406.0.html (http://www.pebhmong.com/forum/index.php/topic,394406.0.html)
Are you smarter than the supreme Court? Who the hell are you again? :2funny:
duma
the supreme court ain't smarter
have you see those people
they are some old ducker
still living in the past
if you look wayyy back
the supreme court actually favor negro slavery
they made a mistake on this one
this allow people to discriminate people
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Who is blaming the government?
You are so obsessed that you made a separate thread about it and guess what? You missed the reason why the supreme Court voted in favor for the cake Baker guy. :2funny:
That's funny how you keep saying that and referring back to the case when you don't have clue what the ruling is. That's why I said I'm arguing with you and not the government. You never stated the ruling of the court and yet keep saying that arguing against the government. Repeating what you think the court's ruling won't change what the actual ruling was, all it's doing is showing that you failed again and again at defending your claim.
http://www.pebhmong.com/forum/index.php/topic,394406.0.html (http://www.pebhmong.com/forum/index.php/topic,394406.0.html)
Are you smarter than the supreme Court?
I never claim that I am smarter than the supreme court. I claim that you were wrong by showing you why. For you, it's a case of reading the title of an article but article itself. Like that picture said "You know but you do not understand." You know that the court sided with the baker, but you don't understand why.
Who the hell are you again? I'm the guy with the weak kung that constantly defeats you over and over again. l:2funny:
So what's the reason for the court's decision in siding with the baker?
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So what's the reason for the court's decision in siding with the baker?
I already gave you a hint a few post in earlier. It is online. Free to Google :2funny:
Not my problem if you are afraid to click on any links that I have shown. :D
The Trump administration sided with Phillips.
"A custom wedding cake is not an ordinary baked good; its function is more communicative and artistic than utilitarian," Solicitor General Noel Francisco argued. "Accordingly, the government may not enact content-based laws commanding a speaker to engage in protected expression: An artist cannot be forced to paint, a musician cannot be forced to play, and a poet cannot be forced to write."
https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.cnn.com/cnn/2018/06/04/politics/masterpiece-colorado-gay-marriage-cake-supreme-court/index.html (https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.cnn.com/cnn/2018/06/04/politics/masterpiece-colorado-gay-marriage-cake-supreme-court/index.html)
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Here goes another cake case in California
As CBN News reported in February, Lampe ruled in Miller's favor, writing that the state cannot force her to act against her sincerely held beliefs.
https://www1.cbn.com/cbnnews/2018/may/ca-judge-issues-final-decision-in-wedding-cake-case%3famp
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Not my problem if you are dense and don't read or at least show some learning from me. :2funny:
Here I am quoting myself from page 3.
I'm showing you why the cake case from Bakersfield was won in favor of the cake owner.
It is against his religion to sell to gay a cake that will be used for a gay event.
He will sell but Don't use it to provoke his religion is the stance.
A cake is not just a good. It is the artistic value to it that is at play here.
The court rule so shush it.
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Reply #28 by me is just as beautiful. Did you not read?
Let me give you an example.
Let's say you are the owner of a cake shop. My son shot your son in the face and went to jail for 5 years. Now he is out and I wanted you to sell me a cake to celebrate his releasing.
According to you, you must sell me that cake?
Better learn from somebody.
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Reply #28 by me is just as beautiful. Did you not read?
Let me give you an example.
Let's say you are the owner of a cake shop. My son shot your son in the face and went to jail for 5 years. Now he is out and I wanted you to sell me a cake to celebrate his releasing.
According to you, you must sell me that cake?
Better learn from somebody.
You’re at the store
The Muslim cashier guy won’t ring you because you got pork
In your cart
It’s against his religion to touch pork
So you go to the next cashier
He is a Hindu
And can’t handle your chuck round beef
Because cow are sacred
3 days later
You die from no food
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You’re at the store
The Muslim cashier guy won’t ring you because you got pork
In your cart
It’s against his religion to touch pork
So you go to the next cashier
He is a Hindu
And can’t handle your chuck round beef
Because cow are sacred
3 days later
You die from no food
Your Muslim friend is not fit to be a cashier that sells what is against his belief.
According to their law, eating pork is forbidden but touching pork is ok? Only dead animal pork....
“He has forbidden you only dead animals, and blood, and the swine, and that which is slaughtered as a sacrifice for other than God.” (Quran 2:173)
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Your Muslim friend is not fit to be a cashier that sells what is against his belief.
According to their law, eating pork is forbidden but touching pork is ok? Only dead animal pork....
“He has forbidden you only dead animals, and blood, and the swine, and that which is slaughtered as a sacrifice for other than God.” (Quran 2:173)
this cashier guy is strict
can't touch or handle pork
because like that cake guy
it is against his religion
this hindu cashier guy is even stricter
only eats veggie burger
O0 O0 O0
DAMMIT,
JUST DO YOUR JOB
you know what i mean
make that cake
do your job
(https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/originals/e4/c1/56/e4c156710977c39d9fd1a0322a384029.jpg)
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this cashier guy is strict
can't touch or handle pork
because like that cake guy
it is against his religion
this hindu cashier guy is even stricter
only eats veggie burger
O0 O0 O0
DAMMIT,
JUST DO YOUR JOB
you know what i mean
make that cake
do your job
(https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/originals/e4/c1/56/e4c156710977c39d9fd1a0322a384029.jpg)
The cake maker is the owner of the store. It makes no sense for the owner to buy taboo meat and can not sell them.
Your analogy is way off.
I bought a pack of water. The cashier did not have to touch it but was able to scan it with a scanning gun or manual input.
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The cake maker is the owner of the store. It makes no sense for the owner to buy taboo meat and can not sell them.
Your analogy is way off.
I bought a pack of water. The cashier did not have to touch it but was able to scan it with a scanning gun or manual input.
dude lots of small business owner are also cashier/stocker/etc...
in that cake dude guy case, he makes the cake
they help around the store
ain't rocket science
point here is
imagine going to the store and being deny services
because of their religious beliefs
also, if you read the supreme court ruling
it says that the state of colarado violate his civil rights
thats' what he won
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dude lots of small business owner are also cashier/stocker/etc...
in that cake dude guy case, he makes the cake
they help around the store
ain't rocket science
point here is
imagine going to the store and being deny services
because of their religious beliefs
also, if you read the supreme court ruling
it says that the state of colarado violate his civil rights
thats' what he won
It also said that the gay couple ended up buying a cake at another place for their wedding.
So if the price is high, what you do? You go buy elsewhere. Free market enterprise at play. It will handle itself out.
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this cashier guy is strict
can't touch or handle pork
because like that cake guy
it is against his religion
this hindu cashier guy is even stricter
only eats veggie burger
O0 O0 O0
DAMMIT,
JUST DO YOUR JOB
you know what i mean
make that cake
do your job
(https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/originals/e4/c1/56/e4c156710977c39d9fd1a0322a384029.jpg)
i tell you, it's christians being hypocrites again. these people should not work in a job that service others directly then. :idiot2:
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Yup
That’s all they are
Hypocrite
Tell you to go left
Than they go right
Why go to church if you not going follow the rules/teaching???
because, of all religions being a Christian is the easiest. you can do all the bad things you want and then when it comes to it just say sorry and all is forgiven. :idiot2:
look at all the fake believers in here saying it's okay to take children from parents and not giving to the poor. :idiot2:
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i tell you, it's christians being hypocrites again. these people should not work in a job that service others directly then. :idiot2:
Well the gays are ruining the fun for dude. It got the government to force dude to stop baking wedding cake altogether.
Would love the government to tell you what to write and what not to write.
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because, of all religions being a Christian is the easiest. you can do all the bad things you want and then when it comes to it just say sorry and all is forgiven. :idiot2:
look at all the fake believers in here saying it's okay to take children from parents and not giving to the poor. :idiot2:
If that is the recipe for salvation then you do not know about another's man religion.
Tell us again. Who is a Christian around here that wants to separate the child from the parents?
Last I heard, it is your government at work.