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Life & Living => Work Avenue => Topic started by: slude on June 27, 2016, 09:28:10 AM
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if you have the option to work for the state (public) or private sector, which one would you pick?
state job
competitive salary (very little, or no annual raises)
great benefits (pto)
pension
secured, steady job (new position, needed for growth/technology innovation)
smaller projects; less than $1 million project (state lead projects, meaning we are the client and contractors work for us)
good work culture/environment (flexible)
no travel
private corp of +2,000 employees with offices all over the u.s.
same salary as the state job (annual raises, bonuses based on merit)
average benefits (pto)
401k
job security = this is a new position, the demand needed for future growth of company
big million dollar projects. communication/coordination with other contractors/clients across the country
some travel
it's a good dilemma to have, but it's a hard decision to make. just hoping for some thoughts/opinions or rational suggestions.
thanks in advance!
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if you have the option to work for the state (public) or private sector, which one would you pick?
state job
competitive salary (very little, or no annual raises)
great benefits (pto)
pension
secured, steady job (new position, needed for growth/technology innovation)
smaller projects; less than $1 million project (state lead projects, meaning we are the client and contractors work for us)
good work culture/environment (flexible)
no travel
private corp of +2,000 employees with offices all over the u.s.
same salary as the state job (annual raises, bonuses based on merit)
average benefits (pto)
401k
job security = this is a new position, the demand needed for future growth of company
big million dollar projects. communication/coordination with other contractors/clients across the country
some travel
it's a good dilemma to have, but it's a hard decision to make. just hoping for some thoughts/opinions or rational suggestions.
thanks in advance!
Depends on the job position and with who exactly for me...
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doing the same thing for both. the responsibiliti es are very similar; oversee technology innovation, helping to lead/coordinate, establish standards, train coworkers, implement ideas, and so some production work.
i know both hiring managers at the public and private sectors. i have worked with them before.
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I would do private if I was young and public if old because private sectors probably have a faster pace when it comes to advancement/work loads and not a lot of the older generations are willing to go beyond their limits while the public position is more secure and paints out to be stable long term.
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they both have their own pros and cons.
for me.
I would stick with corporate jobs at a younger age(not married, no kids due to high demands comes with high expectations including traveling overnight) to make all the money I can and gain all the experience or skills. After that slowly transitioning to a state job in the long run where it's a steady and secure.
but at the end of day everybody is different. Some people work to live and some live to work.
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I would do private if I was young and public if old because private sectors probably have a faster pace when it comes to advancement/work loads and not a lot of the older generations are willing to go beyond their limits while the public position is more secure and paints out to be stable long term.
I concur. O0
I know people who start off in the private sector when younger, they want to advance their career and make money. Then when they're older, they move to the public sector since they want a slower/leisure pace in order to spend more time with family or to do more recreational things. They're already financially secure/stable so they're not concerned about money anymore.
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doing the same thing for both. the responsibiliti es are very similar; oversee technology innovation, helping to lead/coordinate, establish standards, train coworkers, implement ideas, and so some production work.
i know both hiring managers at the public and private sectors. i have worked with them before.
When I worked for the USPS back in the 90s, our main competitors at the time were UPS and FedEx. Some jobs were "very similar" among all three but if I can start over and can work for any of those companies doing a very similar job, my choice would be:
UPS>USPS>FedEx ...in terms of employers in different sector...
I would need to know who the exact company is and which exact job title is available in order to form an educated opinion...
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i've put in 15 years of services with the private sectors, from mid-sized corp to a start-up company of 10 people. they say work for the big corp to learn 'process' and work for the small comp to learn how to do everything all at once. not that i can't learn new things, but i've learned and gained enough experience already to do what i want to do...
the easiest way to make the hardest decision is to flip a coin. the moment the coin is in the air, that's when you've made your decision.
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i've put in 15 years of services with the private sectors, from mid-sized corp to a start-up company of 10 people. they say work for the big corp to learn 'process' and work for the small comp to learn how to do everything all at once. not that i can't learn new things, but i've learned and gained enough experience already to do what i want to do...
the easiest way to make the hardest decision is to flip a coin. the moment the coin is in the air, that's when you've made your decision.
Yep, if all things are equal, sometimes that's the best way to go about it...Good luck with your choice!
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if you are result driven take the private sector job
if you are a status quo..individua l and do not care much about the outcome of your project then take public sector job.
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my biggest concern is the little or no raise in the public sector. i will start out with the same salary in both sectors, but 5 years in the public sector my salary will stay close to the same whereas in the private i could be making more.
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decided to take the state job, tho it's $12k less than the private. in the end it came down to pension vs high salary. having dealt with corporate for 15 years, i had enough of the fast paced schedules, client/contractor headaches. public is slow but the work culture fits my current needs and family schedule.
thanks all.
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In my situation, I rather pick high salaries(private sect) now and retired to third world country. No matter how hard one works, one can never be a free slave in this country.lol
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In my situation, I rather pick high salaries(private sect) now and retired to third world country. No matter how hard one works, one can never be a free slave in this country.lol
single and under 30, i would go with the private sector. more opportunities. save and invest my money wisely. unfortunately i'm not single and under 30, and i have other goals. the public sector is slow and will allow me to focus on my goals.
jack ma, founder of alibaba has some great tips:
age 20
-be a good student, learn and get some experience.
-it's okay to make mistakes, don’t worry. you fall and get back up again.
-study about entrepreneur.
age 30
-follow somebody, have a role model.
-work for a company. big company is about process; you are part of a machine. small company teaches passion. it teaches dreams. you learn to do a lot of things all at once.
-it’s not which company you go, it’s which boss you follow.
age 40
-work for yourself, focus and do all the things you are good at.
-don’t try to start a new career, it’s too late. you may be successful but the rate of failure is high
-enjoy what you do.
age 50
-work for the young people because young people can do better than you.
-rely on them, invest in them and make sure they are good at what they do.
age 60
-spend time to yourself.
-enjoy the rest of your life on a beach.
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Jack Ma has good points, unfortunately, for some people like us, we can not afford to go down to get back up. Going down is hard, hard to get back up where you left up, besides that you neither have the time to make for your losses. One thing in life one should learn is that being positive can get you big rewards but it can also be one's own downfall, double edge sword...
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if you're still young, definitely go private. keep in mind the cons too: in a public org, your promotions are based on who you know, not what you know.
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i took the public job and has been here for over a month. glad i did it. the benefits are excellent and the work is less demanding/stress. the pay is less but i don't have to deal with headaches from other private contractors, fighting for work, meeting client deadlines and expectations. here i am the client, and we set our own expectation.
if you're 21-35 def get into the private sector to learn about entrepreneursh ip and company process.
if you're 35+ public work is nice and has a great mix of work and personal culture.
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i took the public job and has been here for over a month. glad i did it. the benefits are excellent and the work is less demanding/stress. the pay is less but i don't have to deal with headaches from other private contractors, fighting for work, meeting client deadlines and expectations. here i am the client, and we set our own expectation.
if you're 21-35 def get into the private sector to learn about entrepreneursh ip and company process.
if you're 35+ public work is nice and has a great mix of work and personal culture.
How do you get into the public works?
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How do you get into the public works?
"Public" jobs just means jobs that are mainly in the public sector i.e., city, county, state, federal..
Depends on the particular job, some required applicants to pass their tests, some required college degree, some you can just walk in and apply for...And many public jobs are unionized.
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I know what it means but where can you actually get a modest job at? It's so complicated, every f'en mofo requires a resume. :2funny: I totally hate this game. It's actually easier applying for welfare than is a job.
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I know what it means but where can you actually get a modest job at? It's so complicated, every f'en mofo requires a resume. :2funny: I totally hate this game. It's actually easier applying for welfare than is a job.
Hard to say as "modest" can vary from individual to individual so look up your city, county, state, etc., human resource department/online page and go from there...For example, some think being a Police Officer is a great thing but not others...
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lol, it is probably easier applying for welfare. govn't jobs can take a few weeks to months. it took me 3 months to get in.
knowing someone on the inside is helpful. they can refer you to the hiring committee. that's how i got in. otherwise, polish your resume and keep trying.
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lol, it is probably easier applying for welfare. govn't jobs can take a few weeks to months. it took me 3 months to get in.
knowing someone on the inside is helpful. they can refer you to the hiring committee. that's how i got in. otherwise, polish your resume and keep trying.
That's why I say it's easier applying for welfare. Always be requiring a resume for position that any monkey can do, ya know... ie mcdonals/target/walmart & etc. What a screw up world we live in. I outta call up a social worker to write a resume.lol :knuppel2: