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Title: Why Christian folk so obsessed at the end of time?
Post by: hmgROCK on February 18, 2016, 12:14:59 PM
A couples years back. This pastor told all his follower about rapture.
Many people sold their home and cars.
Gave away/donate all their money.
It was on national news

The rapture never came.....
The pastor than goes on to say he missed calculate
It was a couple month away.
A couple month later. Nothing..

No rapture. His follower are left with nothing. No home to go to.

Title: Re: Why Christian folk so obsessed at the end of time?
Post by: hmgROCK on February 18, 2016, 12:17:48 PM
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2011_end_times_prediction
Title: Re: Why Christian folk so obsessed at the end of time?
Post by: Believe_N_Me on February 18, 2016, 11:20:01 PM
Isn't it a good thing that people sold their homes based on YOUR beliefs? Aren't you against materialism? Now these people can truly be a citizen of the world because they don't possess anything.
Title: Re: Why Christian folk so obsessed at the end of time?
Post by: Dok_Champa on February 19, 2016, 08:43:38 AM
The people that believe this pastor didn't check their Bible.   The Bible- Matthew 34:26 says, "But about that day or hour no one knows, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father."

But of course some people believe the Bible is conceived by  MEN and therefore meaningless - What end time right?  You live.  You died.  End of Story.  and some might even say, You live.  You died.  You re-born.  Cycle starts all over again :D :D :D
Title: Re: Why Christian folk so obsessed at the end of time?
Post by: FetishDream on February 19, 2016, 08:48:13 AM
It is not an obsession but knowing that all things created must die so we look for the resurrection of the dead and the life of the world to come, Amen.

It's in the creed. 

Need more to energize your spirit?  Read this  http://www.catholicapologetics.org/ap090600.htm (http://www.catholicapologetics.org/ap090600.htm)
Title: Re: Why Christian folk so obsessed at the end of time?
Post by: hmgROCK on February 19, 2016, 08:51:34 AM
Isn't it a good thing that people sold their homes based on YOUR beliefs? Aren't you against materialism? Now these people can truly be a citizen of the world because they don't possess anything.

Lol no
My belief is against having

TOO many and TOO little

Too many money
Too many cars
Too many houses

Too little food to eat
Too little pay

Etc...

It what Jesus believe in.

Title: Re: Why Christian folk so obsessed at the end of time?
Post by: hmgROCK on February 19, 2016, 08:56:58 AM
It is not an obsession but knowing that all things created must die so we look for the resurrection of the dead and the life of the world to come, Amen.

It's in the creed. 

Need more to energize your spirit?  Read this  http://www.catholicapologetics.org/ap090600.htm (http://www.catholicapologetics.org/ap090600.htm)

See what I mean
This obsessed with end time

Nothing is going happen.
At least not in your lifetime

The end time is
About 500 million years from now when the sun get too big and engulf us

That is the end of time

If you believe in science
Title: Re: Why Christian folk so obsessed at the end of time?
Post by: FetishDream on February 19, 2016, 08:57:06 AM
Lol no
My belief is against having

TOO many and TOO little

Too many money
Too many cars
Too many houses

Too little food to eat
Too little pay

Etc...

It what Jesus believe in.

You believed in what jesus believed in but you don't want to be a student of Jesus. 

This is what so fawked up about today's world.   :2funny:
Title: Re: Why Christian folk so obsessed at the end of time?
Post by: FetishDream on February 19, 2016, 08:59:06 AM
See what I mean
This obsessed with end time

Nothing is going happen.
At least not in your lifetime

The end time is
About 500 million years from now when the sun get too big and engulf us

That is the end of time

If you believe in science

Nothing wrong with preparation because death can come to us at any moment.  Preparation is necessary or your soul will be lost to the devil when death comes and you are not prepared.  Even squirrel prepared themselves for the hibernation winter.   
Title: Re: Why Christian folk so obsessed at the end of time?
Post by: hmgROCK on February 19, 2016, 09:09:46 AM
Nothing wrong with preparation because death can come to us at any moment.  Preparation is necessary or your soul will be lost to the devil when death comes and you are not prepared.  Even squirrel prepared themselves for the hibernation winter.   


No need for preparation
Because you are just one car crash away.

Same reason why I only contribute 2% to my 401k
I don't know if I will live up to that point to use it.

Again these people really believe in the rapture
And that is what makes it crazzzyyyy
Title: Re: Why Christian folk so obsessed at the end of time?
Post by: FetishDream on February 19, 2016, 09:14:29 AM

No need for preparation
Because you are just one car crash away.

Same reason why I only contribute 2% to my 401k
I don't know if I will live up to that point to use it.

Again these people really believe in the rapture
And that is what makes it crazzzyyyy

Everything needs a preparation for order to be achieve.  You wake up this morning, you brush your teeth.  Is that a ritual or is that a preparation in anticipating that your teeth will rotten and fall off if you do not? 

Title: Re: Why Christian folk so obsessed at the end of time?
Post by: FetishDream on February 19, 2016, 09:19:53 AM
By the way, science will agree that the earth is dying or the sun is dying and one day, chaos will happen but before that, there will be signs as warnings.  Famine, global temperature all out of sync, weather going haywire, volcanic eruptions, nuclear chaos.  The end of the world can come at any time, any moment.  All they are asking for is are you prepared? 

When I say they, it does not include you.  You go play elsewhere while the believers will asked themselves if they are prepared.   :2funny:
Title: Re: Why Christian folk so obsessed at the end of time?
Post by: hmgROCK on February 19, 2016, 09:24:34 AM
Everything needs a preparation for order to be achieve.  You wake up this morning, you brush your teeth.  Is that a ritual or is that a preparation in anticipating that your teeth will rotten and fall off if you do not?

The Wodaabe (African tribe)
Google image them.

They have some of the whitish teeth I know.
Saw it on national geographic

I'm pretty sure they were not using Colgate whiten toothpaste in preparation

Again this pastor is nut
Make all his follower sold their stuff
Title: Re: Why Christian folk so obsessed at the end of time?
Post by: hmgROCK on February 19, 2016, 09:27:17 AM
By the way, science will agree that the earth is dying or the sun is dying and one day, chaos will happen but before that, there will be signs as warnings.  Famine, global temperature all out of sync, weather going haywire, volcanic eruptions, nuclear chaos.  The end of the world can come at any time, any moment.  All they are asking for is are you prepared? 

When I say they, it does not include you.  You go play elsewhere while the believers will asked themselves if they are prepared.   :2funny:

I don't know.

But I do know this pastor
Knows

He even know the exact date
I think he suffer a heart attack or stroke when it didn't come true
Title: Re: Why Christian folk so obsessed at the end of time?
Post by: FetishDream on February 19, 2016, 09:27:35 AM
The Wodaabe (African tribe)
Google image them.

They have some of the whitish teeth I know.
Saw it on national geographic

I'm pretty sure they were not using Colgate whiten toothpaste in preparation

Again this pastor is nut
Make all his follower sold their stuff

I am sure their white teeth is not god given gift to them either.  If they do not use toothpaste then they must have used something else in preparation because not doing so, they risk of losing their teeth.

today's word is preparation.  You can't escape it because you do it too.   :2funny:
Title: Re: Why Christian folk so obsessed at the end of time?
Post by: FetishDream on February 19, 2016, 09:30:28 AM
I don't know.

But I do know this pastor
Knows

He even know the exact date
I think he suffer a heart attack or stroke when it didn't come true

And this pastor, is he a friend of the pope because if the pope does not trip about the rapture like dude then there is no problem.  The pope owns a big stake in the population of those who are under the christian umbrella. 

So the pastor you know, how many people are under him and what percentage of the christian's population is that?  Just because the dude can trip under a small population, is it right or fair to claim that all Christians folks are so obsessed with the rapture?   O0

Title: Re: Why Christian folk so obsessed at the end of time?
Post by: hmgROCK on February 19, 2016, 09:30:56 AM
I am sure their white teeth is not god given gift to them either.  If they do not use toothpaste then they must have used something else in preparation because not doing so, they risk of losing their teeth.

today's word is preparation.  You can't escape it because you do it too.   :2funny:

Who know what they use
But they do not use Colgate for sure.

Because those people live in the desert
They need water for drinking not brushing teeth
Title: Re: Why Christian folk so obsessed at the end of time?
Post by: FetishDream on February 19, 2016, 09:32:30 AM
Who know what they use
But they do not use Colgate for sure.

Because those people live in the desert
They need water for drinking not brushing teeth

The issue here is not what they used.  The issue at hand is that they did used or prepared.   O0
Title: Re: Why Christian folk so obsessed at the end of time?
Post by: hmgROCK on February 19, 2016, 09:36:03 AM
And this pastor, is he a friend of the pope because if the pope does not trip about the rapture like dude then there is no problem.  The pope owns a big stake in the population of those who are under the christian umbrella. 

So the pastor you know, how many people are under him and what percentage of the christian's population is that?  Just because the dude can trip under a small population, is it right or fair to claim that all Christians folks are so obsessed with the rapture?   O0

Alot of people were under this pastor
Probably in the millions
Because if you look at the number $$$
(Number don't lie)

They made $135 million in 2007

That's alot of dough and follower if you ask me.


This dude takes advantage of the weak minded and make they give away all their stuff

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Family_Radio
Title: Re: Why Christian folk so obsessed at the end of time?
Post by: hmgROCK on February 19, 2016, 09:38:13 AM
The issue here is not what they used.  The issue at hand is that they did used or prepared.   O0

National geographic did say something about their diet.
How like we drink lots of coffee which makes out teeth brown.

Title: Re: Why Christian folk so obsessed at the end of time?
Post by: FetishDream on February 19, 2016, 09:46:40 AM
Alot of people were under this pastor
Probably in the millions
Because if you look at the number $$$
(Number don't lie)

They made $135 million in 2007

That's alot of dough and follower if you ask me.


This dude takes advantage of the weak minded and make they give away all their stuff

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Family_Radio

Your million is such a small number.  The catholic church alone is about 1.09 billion and when you add all them other christians denominations, that's 1/3 of the world's population. 

There are dudes who takes sleeping pills, jump off a bridge and we never heard of because they are that small and they don't represent the whole.   O0
Title: Re: Why Christian folk so obsessed at the end of time?
Post by: FetishDream on February 19, 2016, 09:54:02 AM
Ah, I found out the secret to their white teeth.  Once again, they did it in preparation for their beauty contest.  There goes that word of the day again.  Preparation.   :2funny:

I agree the Wodaabe are fascinating. I’m not an expert, but I do know they use a twig from a certain tree to clean their teeth. They chew on the twig and it frays and becomes like a brush which they scrub their teeth with.
http://www.rosemarysheel.com/travel-photographs/wodaabe-beauty-contest (http://www.rosemarysheel.com/travel-photographs/wodaabe-beauty-contest)
 
Title: Re: Why Christian folk so obsessed at the end of time?
Post by: hmgROCK on February 19, 2016, 09:54:52 AM
Your million is such a small number.  The catholic church alone is about 1.09 billion and when you add all them other christians denominations, that's 1/3 of the world's population. 

There are dudes who takes sleeping pills, jump off a bridge and we never heard of because they are that small and they don't represent the whole.   O0

You don't think $135 million is alot?
Dang let me this homeboy reach his hand and grab 1% of that.
I will be a happy man and live by the beach for the rest of my life

Point is this pastor dude has million of follower.
And he trick and lie to them.


Trust me
I'm aware of the $$$ in church
Such a useless wasteful causes.

Better off donating your money to a good charity
Title: Re: Why Christian folk so obsessed at the end of time?
Post by: FetishDream on February 19, 2016, 09:59:07 AM
You don't think $135 million is alot?
Dang let me this homeboy reach his hand and grab 1% of that.
I will be a happy man and live by the beach for the rest of my life

Point is this pastor dude has million of follower.
And he trick and lie to them.


Trust me
I'm aware of the $$$ in church
Such a useless wasteful causes.

Better off donating your money to a good charity

No the point is that this group of a small church is so small that it makes no impact and with little impact, why in the world would you have the title as Christian folks like you are grouping all the christians together with this group? 

You said a million followers and I showed you how the catholic church alone has 1.09 billion members and that is not including all them other protestant members. 

Pinions is small and they don't speak for the whole is the point. 

Title: Re: Why Christian folk so obsessed at the end of time?
Post by: hmgROCK on February 19, 2016, 10:00:33 AM
Ah, I found out the secret to their white teeth.  Once again, they did it in preparation for their beauty contest.  There goes that word of the day again.  Preparation.   :2funny:

I agree the Wodaabe are fascinating. I’m not an expert, but I do know they use a twig from a certain tree to clean their teeth. They chew on the twig and it frays and becomes like a brush which they scrub their teeth with.
http://www.rosemarysheel.com/travel-photographs/wodaabe-beauty-contest (http://www.rosemarysheel.com/travel-photographs/wodaabe-beauty-contest)


Chewing on twig makes your teeth white?
Interesting.
Yasmi gave an advice on her Facebook.
She say you use those stripe.

Does chewing on wheat twig makes your teeth white?
(https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/564x/b5/30/26/b5302643f3e4175d2cf4b91e5404fce3.jpg)
Title: Re: Why Christian folk so obsessed at the end of time?
Post by: hmgROCK on February 19, 2016, 10:06:41 AM
No the point is that this group of a small church is so small that it makes no impact and with little impact, why in the world would you have the title as Christian folks like you are grouping all the christians together with this group? 

You said a million followers and I showed you how the catholic church alone has 1.09 billion members and that is not including all them other protestant members. 

Pinions is small and they don't speak for the whole is the point.

This is by no comparison a small group/church/cult

Small group/church is your local church.
Barely getting enough people to fill them empty seat on Sunday.

Look man if you don't think $135 million is alot
That's all on you.

I see million of people who buy lottery ticket to win $135 million after taxes and lump sum fee.

I say yes!

There are people like that. Might even be you who sold your cars/house that rapture day

Title: Re: Why Christian folk so obsessed at the end of time?
Post by: FetishDream on February 19, 2016, 10:09:27 AM
This is by no comparison a small group/church/cult

Small group/church is your local church.
Barely getting enough people to fill them empty seat on Sunday.

Look man if you don't think $135 million is alot
That's all on you.

I see million of people who buy lottery ticket to win $135 million after taxes and lump sum fee.

I say yes!

There are people like that. Might even be you who sold your cars/house that rapture day

So after this rapture dude failure, he went out of business so does Christianity goes out of business because he goes out of business too? 
Title: Re: Why Christian folk so obsessed at the end of time?
Post by: hmgROCK on February 19, 2016, 11:52:14 AM
So after this rapture dude failure, he went out of business so does Christianity goes out of business because he goes out of business too? 

After he lie and trick his follower
He had an heart attack/stroke. Don't remember.
And stay hidden like the crook he is.
His company family radio continue to operate today with less follower.

The problem is not him
But Christian folks who are obsessed and in your case
Even prep for the end of time.


I am simply here to tell you the true as an honest human being.
That there is no end time.
Hell ain't going open and demon going come from the lava and destroy us

Stop these nonsense

Title: Re: Why Christian folk so obsessed at the end of time?
Post by: FetishDream on February 19, 2016, 09:29:18 PM
After he lie and trick his follower
He had an heart attack/stroke. Don't remember.
And stay hidden like the crook he is.
His company family radio continue to operate today with less follower.

The problem is not him
But Christian folks who are obsessed and in your case
Even prep for the end of time.


I am simply here to tell you the true as an honest human being.
That there is no end time.
Hell ain't going open and demon going come from the lava and destroy us

Stop these nonsense

So what he did was a cult activity that has been done before.  It could of been worse like telling members to kill themselves. 

The problem I am seeing here is that a small cult doing dubious activities and you see that and say Christians as though that his cult represent the whole.  The problem here is that you see the end times as hell going to open up and demons coming out from a lava to destroy you like a video game. 

Do you see the problem?  The problem is you and here's why.

Science say that our sun is going to die one day and that is observable because our sun is nothing but a star.  They have observed a dying sun and what not.  What this tell us is that our own sun is like a battery being burned off and there is no rechargeable outlet for it.  By logical deduction tells us that our sun is not as bright and shiny and strong today comparing it when it was a lot younger of the past.  All of these will show us a dying sun and if the sun dies out, there will be no light and no heat and without it, the earth and those living on this planet will die with it.

So there goes your end of times there.  The end of humanity can be real with science to back it up too.  To say that you will live forever is horsechit.  To say that you will die one day is the real chit.  Get with the program already.   O0
Title: Re: Why Christian folk so obsessed at the end of time?
Post by: Believe_N_Me on February 19, 2016, 10:13:03 PM
It's hilarious that someone like HmgRock is a big time climate change believer yet doesn't believe in end times.

Climate change believers say that human consumption contributes to the accelerated rated of climate change. The Bible says that human greed and selfishness contributes to end times.

Well there you have it, folks! Climate change believers are nothing more than Revelation-thumping Christians.  O0 :2funny: :2funny: :2funny:
Title: Re: Why Christian folk so obsessed at the end of time?
Post by: hmgROCK on February 20, 2016, 05:04:30 PM
So what he did was a cult activity that has been done before.  It could of been worse like telling members to kill themselves. 

The problem I am seeing here is that a small cult doing dubious activities and you see that and say Christians as though that his cult represent the whole.  The problem here is that you see the end times as hell going to open up and demons coming out from a lava to destroy you like a video game. 

Do you see the problem?  The problem is you and here's why.

Science say that our sun is going to die one day and that is observable because our sun is nothing but a star.  They have observed a dying sun and what not.  What this tell us is that our own sun is like a battery being burned off and there is no rechargeable outlet for it.  By logical deduction tells us that our sun is not as bright and shiny and strong today comparing it when it was a lot younger of the past.  All of these will show us a dying sun and if the sun dies out, there will be no light and no heat and without it, the earth and those living on this planet will die with it.

So there goes your end of times there.  The end of humanity can be real with science to back it up too.  To say that you will live forever is horsechit.  To say that you will die one day is the real chit.  Get with the program already.   O0


Some scientists say time is like a river.
This is why astronaut age slower in space

You may travel back in time if you have a time machine.
Thus really no end of time

Even if a million years from now the sun die offor explosive
Time will continue go without you


Title: Re: Why Christian folk so obsessed at the end of time?
Post by: Believe_N_Me on February 20, 2016, 08:25:40 PM
^^^
What is time to a human being other than the measurement of days, which is determined by the rising and setting of the sun? If there is no sun to mark the days then what is time?

God is outside of time. He goes on with or without the sun.

End times applies to human beings when the sun blacks out, not to God.
Title: Re: Why Christian folk so obsessed at the end of time?
Post by: hmgROCK on February 21, 2016, 11:13:44 AM
^^^
What is time to a human being other than the measurement of days, which is determined by the rising and setting of the sun? If there is no sun to mark the days then what is time?

God is outside of time. He goes on with or without the sun.

End times applies to human beings when the sun blacks out, not to God.

Have you see that vampire movie 30 days of night
Where the sun don't come up for 30 days.

You and your premetive ideas

Lol

Just because you don't see the sun. Don't mind it not burning or die for the day.
Call your aunt in Thailand
She will say the sun is over here.