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General Category => General Discussion => Topic started by: theking on November 27, 2018, 12:12:19 AM
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Sure some true believers like to think that their God is the only one or the best one but gotta have enough common sense to know that the true believers of other religions/beliefs may feel the same too and when one feels the need to force one's God/religion upon others, this could happen... ???:
John Allen Chau detailed efforts to convert islanders to Christianity in final diary entries: "You guys might think I'm crazy in all this, but I think it's worth it to declare Jesus to these people."
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Indian officials should abandon efforts to retrieve the body of an American missionary reportedly killed by an endangered tribe in the Andaman and Nicobar islands, a rights group says.
Survival International says any attempt is "incredibly dangerous" for both the Sentinelese tribesmen and officials.
John Allen Chau was said to have been killed with arrows when he landed on North Sentinel on 17 November.
He was trying to convert the protected people to Christianity.
Indian authorities struggled to retrieve Chau's body over the weekend, when a police boat faced off with Sentinelese tribesmen but withdrew to avoid confrontation.
"The risk of a deadly epidemic of flu, measles or other outside disease is very real, and increases with every contact," said Survival International's director Stephen Corry. "Such efforts in similar cases in the past have ended with the Sentinelese attempting to defend their island by force."
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Sounds like you're siding with the "Primitives" here.
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NOPE, I'm "siding" with *FACTS*...because fact is when you forced your subjective beliefs upon others, they'll usually fight back...
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NOPE, I'm "siding" with *FACTS*...because fact is when you forced your subjective beliefs upon others, they'll usually fight back...
How do you forced religion on someone
When you are kill on the spot as you were landing your boat
Before you can even open your bible and preach
Too funny
Lmao
These are just some aggressive groups of tribes
Who don’t like outsider
And attacking them on the spot
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We learn from this event that there is no God. You would think that God would watch over him and sprinkle something to change something so this man can live since he is doing God work. So, there you have it, here's the fact that there is no God.
They should just send in Pope Jorge Mario Bergoglio, that's the ultimate test of God. If he gets killed on the spot, well time to convert to Islam, Buddha, etc because Christianity is nothing but a bunch of BS......lol. I mean, you don't want to believe a fake religion all your life only to find out after you die that it was all BS, right? So there you go....
Let the Christians excuses and reasons begin, lmao.
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How do you forced religion on someone
When you are kill on the spot as you were landing your boat
Before you can even open your bible and preach
Too funny
Lmao
These are just some aggressive groups of tribes
Who don’t like outsider
And attacking them on the spot
He said he "preached a bit to them starting in Genesis."
I don't expect the the fraud that failed to match any of the mega millions numbers after claiming to be the " Hmong Nostradamus and is always right" to comprehend...t he story.."lmao". ;D
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We learn from this event that there is no God. You would think that God would watch over him and sprinkle something to change something so this man can live since he is doing God work. So, there you have it, here's the fact that there is no God.
They should just send in Pope Jorge Mario Bergoglio, that's the ultimate test of God. If he gets killed on the spot, well time to convert to Islam, Buddha, etc because Christianity is nothing but a bunch of BS......lol. I mean, you don't want to believe a fake religion all your life only to find out after you die that it was all BS, right? So there you go....
Let the Christians excuses and reasons begin, lmao.
Well god sure works in mysterious ways cuz he got you to talk about him.
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He said he "preached a bit to them starting in Genesis."
I don't expect the the fraud that failed to match any of the mega millions numbers after claiming to be the " Hmong Nostradamus and is always right" to comprehend...t he story.."lmao". ;D
Lol
Why you saying I’m matching mega millions
Yours words not mine
Need to stop making up stories about me
You fraudster
Everyone here know your egg
“John Allen Chau was said to have been killed with arrows when he landed on North Sentinel on 17 November.”
Dude didn’t even get a chance to open his book
Just go watch some YouTube clip of this tribe
They shootings arrow from the beach shores
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look at them
shooting arrow at airplane and boats
dude probably got kill before he even open his bible
how do you "forced" religion on someone,when you are dead
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Lol
Why you saying I’m matching mega millions
Yours words not mine
Need to stop making up stories about me
You fraudster
I know you would back pedal as usual..I mean you only posted a photo of your Mega Millions ticket... :idiot2: ;D
Everyone here know your egg
Says the fraud that give out "bad investment advice" to other PH members...
Says the fraud that cried we are "ganging up" on him even though he only has his own fraudulent behaviors to blame... ;D
Says the fraud that claimed to be "the hmong Nostradamus and is always right" but failed big time during the big Mega Million drawing...I mean you can't even match a number... ;D ;D ;D
“John Allen Chau was said to have been killed with arrows when he landed on North Sentinel on 17 November.”
Dude didn’t even get a chance to open his book
Just go watch some YouTube clip of this tribe
They shootings arrow from the beach shores
I knew you wouldn't have enough brain cells to comprehend it...
When he said he, "preached a bit to them starting in Genesis."
Who do you think he referred to when he said "them"...?? ??? :idiot2:
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look at them
shooting arrow at airplane and boats
dude probably got kill before he even open his bible
how do you "forced" religion on someone,when you are dead
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And that's why you're a fraud that can't even match a single number during the recent big Mega Millions drawing even though you pounce your chest as "the hmong Nostradamus and is always right"...
No wonder others called you out for giving out "bad investment advice", lack "basic decimal" skills, and "your math is off"...
I mean you don't even know how old you are or where you are by claiming you actually experience the hardship in the Thai refugee camp... :idiot2: ;D
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Just watch those old clip of them tribe on YouTube
They be shoot arrows at the boats and plane
I don’t think this dude even got to the first page of genesis
Lmao
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Doesn't matter if he got to the first page or the whole bible or been there for years..The point of this thread is he is wrong for forcing or trying to force his *subjective* religion/belief down those people's throat...fully aware that he shouldn't be there in the first place...
What did he do? He went "underground" with the help of a couple idiots to avoid the authorities and got close enough. Then he use a canoe the rest of the way to get to that restricted area...
Therefore, all these resources and risks trying to retrieve his body is a total waste since it's his fault to begin with...
Yeah, I know you still can't comprehend the *point* even with this explanation..."Lmao"...
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it finally dawn on them...."well, what if they already ate him??"
knuckleheads like this guy...it's hard to have any sympathy for but also hard not to be angry at whoever brainwashed him so bad to the point it cause his life and die in a horrific way...by arrows?? maybe more like by spears...fook. ..i'll take a bullet....haha
I wouldn't be surprise.
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Doesn't matter if he got to the first page or the whole bible or been there for years..The point of this thread is he is wrong for forcing or trying to force his *subjective* religion/belief down those people's throat...fully aware that he shouldn't be there in the first place...
What did he do? He went "underground" with the help of a couple idiots to avoid the authorities and got close enough. Then he use a canoe the rest of the way to get to that restricted area...
Therefore, all these resources and risks trying to retrieve his body is a total waste since it's his fault to begin with...
Yeah, I know you still can't comprehend the *point* even with this explanation..."Lmao"...
So should we shoot these honkies crackers too........lma orofl
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So should we shoot these honkies crackers too........lma orofl
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Yeah, with primitive bow and arrows cuz they don't charge savages people with murder.
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I have read a few stories of asians going to dangerous areas to convert others on the behest of christianities . Like some Koreans going to Iraq or Afghanistan and then getting captured. And now this half breed chinese going to the Andaman islands... Tos peb Hmoob muaj lolus haistias “Cia ruam tua tsov mus ua ntej.” The white christians let these asians go first to test the tiger out. Ruam went in; Tiger got him, lol.
Wonder when a resident PebHmong poster, some one like Graciefied23 or theafterlife, etc, is going to be on the news over something similar to this?
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So should we shoot these honkies crackers too........lma orofl
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NO, we have different laws and ways here and they can come and knock on your door and you can deny them entry...
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I like this guy, Mark Jones’ reply.
What Mr Chau did was the equivalent of someone infected with a deadly contagious disease trying to break into your home to try and convert you and your children to an obscure religion. Imagine someone climbing through your childs bedroom window clutching a book and singing songs about some man in the sky in a strange language. You manage to chase him away yet the next day this person is banging on your front door so you shoot at him. He gets away with cuts to his body, only to return the next day - this time he snuck in through your backyard and is heading towards your children playing in the sand. So you kill him.
That’s, basically, what happened in simple terms.
He arrived in the Andamans on Oct. 16 and paid fishermen to take him by boat at night to the island on Nov. 14, evading the lights of patrols on the way. When the sun broke, Chau drew near the tribe. The women began "looing and chattering," he wrote, and he was faced by men armed with bows and arrows. "My name is John, I love you and Jesus loves you," he shouted before retreating.
The second day, he kayaked to the island and tried to offer the tribe small gifts - fish, scissors, cord and safety pins. A man in white with a crown, possibly made of flowers, shouted at him. He responded by singing "worship songs and hymns," and the tribe fell silent. A juvenile fired an arrow at him, piercing his waterproof Bible. Chau fled on foot through the mangroves. - News Report from NDTV[1]
Did he care that these people had made it VERY clear that they want NO outside contact at all? - No.
Did he care that these people likely already have their own beliefs? - No
Did he care that these people have survived just fine without Jesus or a bible for thousands of years? - No
Did he care that these people have no immunity for the thousands of germs and/or pathogens he’d be carrying that you and I are immune to? - No
This was the third attempt of going to the island and trying to reach these people. Each time was met with arrows and the second time nearly killed him. What did he expect by going back again? You see, this is what religious delusion does to people. He had a belief system that works for him and makes sense to him and thinks everybody is wrong and should do the same as him.
It’s very sad that someone has died, but he has no one to blame but himself. He may actually have killed some of them by now seeing that the natives have come into contact with his body and are not immune to the germs he will have been carrying.
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I also like this reply by John Potter as well:
This answer is not meant to trigger anyone, but I have little doubt that it will. I apologize in advance, but I feel the need to express how I really feel about this event.
duck him.
This wasn't about the Sentinelese people. This was all about John Allen Chau and what he believed was his destiny. Don't believe me, read his diary.
Did he care about them? No. Only insofar as they were willing to be props in his "Christian savior" delusion.
Did he care about their unique culture, and the fact that they are one of the few uncontacted indigenous tribes in the world? No. In fact, he had utter contempt for what they ARE and only cared about what he could make them into.
Did he care about the Laws of Man, in this case the Indian government? Haha, no way. He bribed a number of fishermen to take him to the place he was not allowed to go, and in so doing made them accomplices to his crime. They are all now under arrest.
Let's be clear. History tells us what would happen to this tribe if they allowed outsiders to make contact with them. When Europeans reached the Americas, they encountered an indigenous population in the tens of millions that had no knowledge of or immunity to European diseases. In a generation, almost 90% of those indigenous people had died of them. 90 percent, in many places.
In other words, for the Sentinelese people to open themselves up to the "word of God," would come at an apocalyptic price. That's not a risk. That's a certainty.
John Allen Chau thought he was going to North Sentinel Island to save the people there from an eternity in Hell. What he was actually doing was that he was going to kill them. Not all of them, probably. But most of them, absolutely, Either he did not know this, although I doubt it, from the degree to which he appeared to know about them. Most likely, he did not care. Introducing pathogens that would kill 50 to 400 of them was an acceptable loss, in his mind, if he could convert the ones that survived.
The arrogance and superiority complex staggers the mind.
And let's not forget, these people speak a completely unknown language. Even if they did not kill him on sight (which they did, and for good reason), how was he going to convert them? Teach them all English? Teach them all to read the Bible? The 10 or 20 who lived, anyway.
And don't even get me started on the theology. What do these people need the Christian God for anyway? They've lived the same way for literally thousands of years. They're not cannibals, or thieves, or sex predators. They do kill, as Chau discovered, but only if you go out of your way to force them to.
Because of salvation? Really? Even if that salvation comes at the guaranteed price of up to 90% of their lives?!? And they're also damned to spend eternity in Hell because a "loving" God who created them in His image deposited them on this island with no access to the tools for His very specific conditions of salvation?
If that's the Christian God, and that is the price he demands for salvation, then he is not merciful or loving. He is a ****.
How do I feel about this? I feel satisfied that a unique people who can never be replaced saw this fool for what he was, and did what they had to do to protect themselves. No one made him undertake this monumental idiocy.
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Whether some of you see it as he invade others, only care about his visions, step into someone property, etc.
Truth is it all lead to........ther e is no GOD. God didn't do nothing to save him, to change the heart of the tribe people, cause a storm to change the odds, etc. This dude walk right into death by doing what he believe is a good thing, preaching God work. So, by this event, all it did was prove that there is no GOD and God ain't gonna help you AND ALSO THAT, there is always a reason to kill even those that work for GOD. So there you go........time to convert to Islam, them people will Blow sh1t up to prove there hardcore religion. That can be a bad thing, but it can be a good thing too, lol.