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Title: lots of young folks are switching over to socialism
Post by: hmgROCK on February 20, 2019, 03:04:50 PM
i will be the first to admit
i hated this capitalism system
this idea where everyone works their ass off and the owner takes 99% of the reward/money
now you can't even survive on the basic stuff
gotta go get your food at church and see those free clinic  and etc...

maybe it just me
but does it even sound fair?

need some serious change
(https://static1.squarespace.com/static/5321dc4ae4b0c72ad0ceedfe/t/5b21548a1ae6cf9251e950a9/1528911135012/Screen-Shot-2018-02-14-at-2.05.14-PM.png)



here i made $12k++
from clicking a few button on my computer screen
IS THIS EVEN MORALLY RIGHT?

(https://i.imgur.com/6YEsB5C.jpg)
Title: Re: lots of young folks are switching over to socialism
Post by: Gucci K on February 21, 2019, 08:05:18 AM
millennials are lazy, that is why they want a socialist government. 
their train of thought is why work when you don't have to, expecting free healthcare, other free handouts and etc...where are the taxes coming from, for your welfare?  don't believe the hype of this "green" deal, money don't grow on trees!
they want to tax the rich up to 70% of their income :idiot2:  what would happen if the rich takes off to another country?  who's going to provide you jobs!? case in point, amazon leaving new york.
having socialist government will only benefit and empower the top tier government officials, you regular folks better grow your own farm, raise your own chicken, pigs and animals, find your own food...and without a border wall or fence, good luck with that! ha!

Title: Re: lots of young folks are switching over to socialism
Post by: hmgROCK on February 21, 2019, 08:20:29 AM
millennials are lazy, that is why they want a socialist government. 
their train of thought is why work when you don't have to, expecting free healthcare, other free handouts and etc...where are the taxes coming from, for your welfare?  don't believe the hype of this "green" deal, money don't grow on trees!
they want to tax the rich up to 70% of their income :idiot2:  what would happen if the rich takes off to another country?  who's going to provide you jobs!? case in point, amazon leaving new york.
having socialist government will only benefit and empower the top tier government officials, you regular folks better grow your own farm, raise your own chicken, pigs and animals, find your own food...and without a border wall or fence, good luck with that! ha!


I’m a millennial
Grow up being taught fairness
Only take what you need
That everyone is treated equally
But that is not the case

That is farther from the truth

A lot of us younger folks are getting tired
We are not blind
We can see the injustice

You got teachers going on strike
Government employees going to the food bank



Title: Re: lots of young folks are switching over to socialism
Post by: flint-rod on February 21, 2019, 10:29:38 AM
decades ago we had an altered form of socialism in which many hmong took advantage of... it was called welfare... gone are the days of welfare... lol!
Title: Re: lots of young folks are switching over to socialism
Post by: hmgROCK on February 21, 2019, 10:59:25 AM
decades ago we had an altered form of socialism in which many hmong took advantage of... it was called welfare... gone are the days of welfare... lol!


Didn’t the teacher in Colorado went on strike??
Few months ago

If our teachers are hurting

You know the average joe is in pain
Title: Re: lots of young folks are switching over to socialism
Post by: flint-rod on February 21, 2019, 11:46:51 AM

Didn’t the teacher in Colorado went on strike??
Few months ago

If our teachers are hurting

You know the average joe is in pain

get this... an office assistant with a ged gets paid more than a 1st yr teacher with a college degree here in colorado... lol! that's why i'll be in administration here shortly making six figures... i just need to get my master's degree first... lol!
Title: Re: lots of young folks are switching over to socialism
Post by: flint-rod on February 21, 2019, 11:47:36 AM
also, colorado ranks 3rd to dead last in terms of teacher funding... lol!
Title: Re: lots of young folks are switching over to socialism
Post by: Gucci K on February 21, 2019, 12:03:35 PM

I’m a millennial
Grow up being taught fairness
Only take what you need
That everyone is treated equally
But that is not the case

That is farther from the truth

A lot of us younger folks are getting tired
We are not blind
We can see the injustice

You got teachers going on strike
Government employees going to the food bank
you millennials forgotten the #1 golden rule...work hard, nobody is going to feed your mouth.  just because your path was paved by your parents don't mean you stop climbing the corporate ladder or better yourself.

teachers going on strikes because they let all these non-paying tax people bring in their children for free lunch and education, causing over crowded schools...more mouths to feed = no money/raises for the teachers.

government employees going to food banks because dumb-o-crats are playing far out left field (some outside the foul line), uncooperative and unwillingness to negotiate nor do what's right for the american people and it's government...c ausing a shut down.

socialism takes away growth, value and competition... it's like you starting a multi-million dollar company but everyone gets an equal share amount...you have this genius idea/patent but everyone takes credit...you grow a fruitful garden but your neighbors gets to pick for free.  socialist are simply lazy people who wants free hand outs...when they should be working hard to earn a living and paying their equal share of taxes so the country can bloom.
Title: Re: lots of young folks are switching over to socialism
Post by: Wi_sweetguy on February 21, 2019, 03:43:13 PM
Every country has capitalism in the form of socialism.  China is a prime example.  No country can thrive on socialism without capitalism. Look at venezuela, they had pure socialism..and little marktet of capitalism..
Title: Re: lots of young folks are switching over to socialism
Post by: YAX on February 21, 2019, 11:08:05 PM
The biggest problem with socialism is that it is still run by humans and humans on top will seek to benefit themselves first. Put an open source program in charge of dishing out resources and tasks and I bet it'll work out great.. until someone finds a way to corrupt it.
Title: Re: lots of young folks are switching over to socialism
Post by: Yebleng on February 22, 2019, 06:47:21 AM
Any system will work. Its the human errors thats what is wrong with the world :'(
Title: Re: lots of young folks are switching over to socialism
Post by: hmgROCK on February 22, 2019, 07:21:23 AM
you millennials forgotten the #1 golden rule...work hard, nobody is going to feed your mouth.  just because your path was paved by your parents don't mean you stop climbing the corporate ladder or better yourself.


bro,

we are all working hard
i don't know how much harder do you want us to work, man
busting 40+ hours per week, sometimes weekend too
the problem is reward/money is going to the top and people are getting scrap

my diet right now is fast food
cuz i will be too tired to cook


thank god for these midnight fast food places

PIC OR IT DIDN'T HAPPEN
straw spell P=pebhmong
(https://i.imgur.com/LKuWJVG.jpg)
Title: Re: lots of young folks are switching over to socialism
Post by: Gucci K on February 22, 2019, 07:59:58 AM

bro,

we are all working hard
i don't know how much harder do you want us to work, man
busting 40+ hours per week, sometimes weekend too
the problem is reward/money is going to the top and people are getting scrap

my diet right now is fast food
cuz i will be too tired to cook


thank god for these midnight fast food places

PIC OR IT DIDN'T HAPPEN
straw spell P=pebhmong
(https://i.imgur.com/LKuWJVG.jpg)
so here's flaw that you should see with socialism....y ou're busting your a$$ off, no time for a good meal just fast foods...but your millennial friends, neighbors or someone isn't working or not as hard.  your contribution to taxes is paying for their free health care and governmental assistance, of which they're eating steaks, crab legs and lobster tails.  socialist believes that whether you work 40 hours, 20 hours or none at all, everyone should be entitle to the same equal share and since you work more hours, have a higher income than the rest of society...you should be taxed more (because who else is going pay into that share?).  and here's the kicker, the government (often a dictator) that runs this socialist country, takes 80-90% of the pot, which leaves people fighting for nothing.

socialism will make you hard to swallow theking's whopper because it's going to be considered luxury food, when you have to work 40 hours just to get it!
Title: Re: lots of young folks are switching over to socialism
Post by: flint-rod on February 22, 2019, 08:53:28 AM
we have a good thing going here in the us... is it perfect, no but it sure as heck is better than other socialist countries... as human beings we have to right to up and leave anytime we feel we've been wrong... "laos" is always a viable option to relocate... lol!
Title: Re: lots of young folks are switching over to socialism
Post by: hmgROCK on February 22, 2019, 08:55:25 AM
we have a good thing going here in the us... is it perfect, no but it sure as heck is better than other socialist countries... as human beings we have to right to up and leave anytime we feel we've been wrong... "laos" is always a viable option to relocate... lol!

dude you teacher are always on strike
asking for higher paid

Title: Re: lots of young folks are switching over to socialism
Post by: hmgROCK on February 22, 2019, 08:58:23 AM
so here's flaw that you should see with socialism....y ou're busting your a$$ off, no time for a good meal just fast foods...but your millennial friends, neighbors or someone isn't working or not as hard.  your contribution to taxes is paying for their free health care and governmental assistance, of which they're eating steaks, crab legs and lobster tails.  socialist believes that whether you work 40 hours, 20 hours or none at all, everyone should be entitle to the same equal share and since you work more hours, have a higher income than the rest of society...you should be taxed more (because who else is going pay into that share?).  and here's the kicker, the government (often a dictator) that runs this socialist country, takes 80-90% of the pot, which leaves people fighting for nothing.

socialism will make you hard to swallow theking's whopper because it's going to be considered luxury food, when you have to work 40 hours just to get it!

bro

not sure about other state
but wisconsin has a really strict work program
basically no work=no welfare

everyone is working man
haven't you seen the unemployment number???
it is pretty low
the problem is  our reward/money  is F up
someone who sits all day in the office is taking up 99% of the profit

here i am, eating midnight fast food
because i will be too tired to cook when i get home

(https://i.imgur.com/LKuWJVG.jpg)
Title: Re: lots of young folks are switching over to socialism
Post by: Gucci K on February 22, 2019, 09:23:13 AM
bro

not sure about other state
but wisconsin has a really strict work program
basically no work=no welfare

everyone is working man
haven't you seen the unemployment number???
it is pretty low
the problem is  our reward/money  is F up
someone who sits all day in the office is taking up 99% of the profit

here i am, eating midnight fast food
because i will be too tired to cook when i get home

(https://i.imgur.com/LKuWJVG.jpg)
that's a good thing...imagin e if WI is a socialist state...everyo ne gets welfare, while only a few of you working.

there is no problem with your "reward/money"...the person taking "99%" of the profit, OWNS that company, he's entitled to the revenues it makes.  would you rather he takes his business elsewhere?  in the example of amazon leaving nyc...they've just lost 25,000+ jobs (theses would includes jobs within amazon, real estate people, constructions workers, the influx of other businesses and their employees)..we're talking about billions of dollars in lost wages, billions of tax revenues for the city and etc.

i say do away with socialism, get your mind right and 'make america great again'! ha!
Title: Re: lots of young folks are switching over to socialism
Post by: hmgROCK on February 22, 2019, 09:33:42 AM
that's a good thing...imagin e if WI is a socialist state...everyo ne gets welfare, while only a few of you working.

there is no problem with your "reward/money"...the person taking "99%" of the profit, OWNS that company, he's entitled to the revenues it makes.  would you rather he takes his business elsewhere?  in the example of amazon leaving nyc...they've just lost 25,000+ jobs (theses would includes jobs within amazon, real estate people, constructions workers, the influx of other businesses and their employees)..we're talking about billions of dollars in lost wages, billions of tax revenues for the city and etc.

i say do away with socialism, get your mind right and 'make america great again'! ha!


you can't just have job for the sake of having jobs
it's about people, too
that what Jesus would have wanted
these worker are getting paid soo low that they are on social welfare:  medicare, foodstamp, WIC
or they will die



billboard at my workplace in the breakroom area
minimum wage is $7.25 here still
i want to rip this cardboard out

straw spell P=pebhmong
(https://i.imgur.com/ZOj8Fyg.jpg)
Title: Re: lots of young folks are switching over to socialism
Post by: hmgROCK on February 22, 2019, 09:35:38 AM
one of my favorite scene from batman the dark knight rises


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q3CLc0IGstk (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q3CLc0IGstk)

(https://pics.me.me/theres-a-storm-coming-mr-wayne-and-you-and-your-17823524.png)
Title: Re: lots of young folks are switching over to socialism
Post by: Gucci K on February 22, 2019, 10:00:23 AM

you can't just have job for the sake of having jobs
it's about people, too
that what Jesus would have wanted
these worker are getting paid soo low that they are on social welfare:  medicare, foodstamp, WIC
or they will die



billboard at my workplace in the breakroom area
minimum wage is $7.25 here still
i want to rip this cardboard out

straw spell P=pebhmong
(https://i.imgur.com/ZOj8Fyg.jpg)
a job is better than no job.  if people don't work and don't pay taxes, how are the rest of you gonna receive welfare, health care and other government assistance...m oney don't grow on trees.  Jesus is undocumented, he works under the table, he don't care about you.  if everybody do their due diligence and be a contributing factor to the community...ev eryone can enjoy a socialist society.

be glad of the sign, it guarantees your minimum pay...work hard to obtain a raise and possibly promotion as manager, maybe you'll get the opportunity to sit at a desk and get paid more than rest.  that is life.

Title: Re: lots of young folks are switching over to socialism
Post by: hmgROCK on February 22, 2019, 10:29:29 AM
a job is better than no job.  if people don't work and don't pay taxes, how are the rest of you gonna receive welfare, health care and other government assistance...m oney don't grow on trees.  Jesus is undocumented, he works under the table, he don't care about you.  if everybody do their due diligence and be a contributing factor to the community...ev eryone can enjoy a socialist society.

be glad of the sign, it guarantees your minimum pay...work hard to obtain a raise and possibly promotion as manager, maybe you'll get the opportunity to sit at a desk and get paid more than rest.  that is life.

It’s about being treated fair
You know how they taught you in school
And how your parents taught you
To treat everyone equals

Just watch man

These new age generations is going see this and be helluva piss

YOU ALREADY SEEN IT FRON THE MASS SHOOTINGS
WE BEEN HAVING

parents too busy working to play with their kids
Title: Re: lots of young folks are switching over to socialism
Post by: flint-rod on February 22, 2019, 11:33:37 AM
join a union or work for a unionized establishment if fair pay is what you seek...
Title: Re: lots of young folks are switching over to socialism
Post by: Gucci K on February 25, 2019, 10:35:26 AM
It’s about being treated fair
You know how they taught you in school
And how your parents taught you
To treat everyone equals

Just watch man

These new age generations is going see this and be helluva piss

YOU ALREADY SEEN IT FRON THE MASS SHOOTINGS
WE BEEN HAVING

parents too busy working to play with their kids
speaking of mass shootings, you have a 99% chance of being killed in a car accident than from a mass shooting.  why worry about it?  however, Believe N Me..socialism will drive more people to mass shootings as the government will corrupt it's people.  just because you millennials are fed by your parents doesn't mean you can demand handout from other people (they have their own problems and their own mouths to feed).  what's fair for everyone is being in a capitalistic state, where you are awarded for what you put in.
Title: Re: lots of young folks are switching over to socialism
Post by: hmgROCK on February 25, 2019, 01:30:14 PM
speaking of mass shootings, you have a 99% chance of being killed in a car accident than from a mass shooting.  why worry about it?  however, Believe N Me..socialism will drive more people to mass shootings as the government will corrupt it's people.  just because you millennials are fed by your parents doesn't mean you can demand handout from other people (they have their own problems and their own mouths to feed).  what's fair for everyone is being in a capitalistic state, where you are awarded for what you put in.

all these mass shooting
it start right at home, bro
people too busy with work to take care/watch their kids

the tax rate use to be like 90% back in the old days
one spouse working
one spouse taking care of the kids


(http://s4.thingpic.com/images/bV/BLzjFh2nuTH5rhmE4NmScRuy.jpeg)
Title: Re: lots of young folks are switching over to socialism
Post by: theking on February 25, 2019, 05:27:08 PM
all these mass shooting
it start right at home, bro
people too busy with work to take care/watch their kids

You sure it's not a the gun manufacture plant since "guns kill, not people"...??

And what's with the "people too busy" talk when "guns kill, not people"..??  ??? :idiot2:
Title: Re: lots of young folks are switching over to socialism
Post by: w1s3m0n on February 26, 2019, 08:34:04 PM


(https://www.zerohedge.com/s3/files/inline-images/Venezuela-FeelingTheBern-Socialism-Attrib-AFBranco-ComicallyIncorrect-060116.jpg?itok=Ys-l_lLy)
Title: Re: lots of young folks are switching over to socialism
Post by: hmgROCK on February 26, 2019, 10:13:51 PM
yall hate socialism
but we already got them
it's call welfare

(https://i.redd.it/93kjpbtearg21.jpg)
Title: Re: lots of young folks are switching over to socialism
Post by: w1s3m0n on February 27, 2019, 01:03:43 AM
Talk about ignorance...Yo u quote Norway.

1) Don't speak/write Norwegian...Yo u get NO JOB.
2) If you are not assimilated into Norwegian culture...You are outcasted.
3) Diversity is not recognized.  Sami is indigenous people and if they want a good life, they must speak do #1 and #2.
4) Want to get the benefits of Norwegian.  Become a citizen.  To be a citizen it takes at least 3 years.  Good luck because they don't want all these immigrant flocking to their country.

The gravy train is stopping in Norway so let's see how long they can keep up that whole Socialism is so great mantra because it's super expensive to survive there.  OH...America use to be just like Norway...it became too expensive and what happens...DEBT rose, and benefits went down.  Norway also don't need to build up a large Army because of Pax Americana...We are paying for EVERYONE'S protection for FREE.  It's no wonder we are losing all of our benefits.

LONG TERM, Capitalism, and Free market society is the most durable concept...  It even works in a communist CHINA who operates a Capitalistic and Free Market economy.  Why does Capitalism and Free Market works?  It operates on GREED...  Greed is not a bad thing.  Greed is what you do when farm, and stock up because winter is coming.  Greed is what you do, when you plan ahead so you don't die.  GREED fundamentally is our #1 survival mechanism.  You fatten up for the winter...

Advice for all you liberals.  DON'T JUST LISTEN TO YOUR PROFESSOR...TH EY ARE PROFESSIONAL STUDENTS WITH NO REAL WORLD EXPERIENCE.  ALL THEORY NO PRACTICAL EXPERIENCE.  Use your critical thinking and come up with your own conclusion.
Title: Re: lots of young folks are switching over to socialism
Post by: w1s3m0n on February 27, 2019, 01:12:36 AM
So it's clear...I respect socialism like how I respect communism...gr eat concept...terr ible execution.  It's kind of like Christianity.. .great concept, great messiah...gosh so many Christians are terrible at executing their belief.  Drives me nuts...like voting for Donald Trump because he's supposed to be some Cyrus - flawed person but chosen by God to bring fulfillment of some providence.    :2funny: :idiot2:
Title: Re: lots of young folks are switching over to socialism
Post by: hmgROCK on February 27, 2019, 09:06:07 AM
Talk about ignorance...Yo u quote Norway.

1) Don't speak/write Norwegian...Yo u get NO JOB.
2) If you are not assimilated into Norwegian culture...You are outcasted.
3) Diversity is not recognized.  Sami is indigenous people and if they want a good life, they must speak do #1 and #2.
4) Want to get the benefits of Norwegian.  Become a citizen.  To be a citizen it takes at least 3 years.  Good luck because they don't want all these immigrant flocking to their country.

The gravy train is stopping in Norway so let's see how long they can keep up that whole Socialism is so great mantra because it's super expensive to survive there.  OH...America use to be just like Norway...it became too expensive and what happens...DEBT rose, and benefits went down.  Norway also don't need to build up a large Army because of Pax Americana...We are paying for EVERYONE'S protection for FREE.  It's no wonder we are losing all of our benefits.

LONG TERM, Capitalism, and Free market society is the most durable concept...  It even works in a communist CHINA who operates a Capitalistic and Free Market economy.  Why does Capitalism and Free Market works?  It operates on GREED...  Greed is not a bad thing.  Greed is what you do when farm, and stock up because winter is coming.  Greed is what you do, when you plan ahead so you don't die.  GREED fundamentally is our #1 survival mechanism.  You fatten up for the winter...

Advice for all you liberals.  DON'T JUST LISTEN TO YOUR PROFESSOR...TH EY ARE PROFESSIONAL STUDENTS WITH NO REAL WORLD EXPERIENCE.  ALL THEORY NO PRACTICAL EXPERIENCE.  Use your critical thinking and come up with your own conclusion.

bro,

saw a few clip of fox news, say how Venezuela fail, because they are a socialism state
hahahhaha, i just laugh

when you put sanction on countries
what do you expect???

don't compare apple to orange


if you want to compare look at some of those socialism state
they doing pretty good
their people are happy
when they go to maximum jail, it's just an open farm house

(https://static.boredpanda.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2018/07/world-prison-cells-prisoners-fb19__700-png.jpg)

 
Title: Re: lots of young folks are switching over to socialism
Post by: w1s3m0n on February 27, 2019, 07:24:33 PM
Obama issued sanctions against Venezuela because of drug support and human trafficking.  Meaning the great socialism movement of Venezuela wasn't all that great on equity and equality.  It basically meant more handout for people to shut them up until the government defaulted on their debts.  Call it what you may, the Venezuela socialist movement was a total turd and much of the policy was to pacify the people through socialist populism.  None of the policies were effective in generating meaningful prosperity to the people.  The policies were self-serving to keep the leaders in power who had a bad economic engine.

bro,

saw a few clip of fox news, say how Venezuela fail, because they are a socialism state
hahahhaha, i just laugh

when you put sanction on countries
what do you expect???

don't compare apple to orange


if you want to compare look at some of those socialism state
they doing pretty good
their people are happy
when they go to maximum jail, it's just an open farm house

(https://static.boredpanda.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2018/07/world-prison-cells-prisoners-fb19__700-png.jpg)

 
Title: Re: lots of young folks are switching over to socialism
Post by: w1s3m0n on February 27, 2019, 07:50:57 PM
(https://i.imgflip.com/1duatk.jpg)
Title: Re: lots of young folks are switching over to socialism
Post by: hmgROCK on February 27, 2019, 10:29:36 PM
hey wisemon, bro
i fix your pic a little bit
tell me what you think


(https://i.imgur.com/nHTh1bf.jpg)
Title: Re: lots of young folks are switching over to socialism
Post by: w1s3m0n on February 27, 2019, 11:17:34 PM
You want to know what bad deals and jobs do?  Or do you want to continue to be a snowflake giving excuses for irresponsible people?

I'll tell you what human being who want to become better can do in 30 years.  Here's a picture of Shenzhen...eve r been there?  It's more beautiful than NYC.  A fishing town is now a great metropolis.

(https://slideplayer.com/slide/4424731/14/images/23/Shenzhen+in+1982+Shenzhen+Today.jpg)
Title: Re: lots of young folks are switching over to socialism
Post by: YeejKoob13 on February 28, 2019, 03:01:18 AM
America is not paying for everyone’s protection for free. Ha ha ha.

Sounds like a Fox news and typical american conservative (ignorant?) talking point.

Hmmm, yah, as if America would install military bases in the Arabian Gulf region for altruistic reasons only; solely for arab and world protection... Maybe think about the much better and greater benefits America gets out of the oil supply and geopolitical control of that region than its military spending.

Title: Re: lots of young folks are switching over to socialism
Post by: YeejKoob13 on February 28, 2019, 07:49:17 AM
Socialism has a wide spectrum, so not sure exactly where each one of you guys draw your line on the scale.

America itself is not even full all out capitalism. It’s a mixed economy, leaning more to the right.

Even “conservatives” are not true to their principles and want socialism when things don’t go their ways. They are happy to privatize profits. But beg and cry to socialize their losses (gov’t bailouts, of which come from the public coffer), like the big banks and car manufacturers.

I don’t advocate for communism or hard socialism, as that’s not my political position, but at the very least have universal healthcare and some very basic income (guess you can call that welfare), something akin to canada... somewhere on the spectrum that’s a bit more left than where america is currently at.
Title: Re: lots of young folks are switching over to socialism
Post by: Gucci K on February 28, 2019, 08:32:40 AM
hey wisemon, bro
i fix your pic a little bit
tell me what you think


(https://i.imgur.com/nHTh1bf.jpg)
bruh, let tell you the truth...this isn't even $12/hr...this is receiving welfare from your tax money.  she don't have to work, because of socialism, she makes your equality.

here's a good video from youtube:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l3GfCmbPDN0 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l3GfCmbPDN0)
Title: Re: lots of young folks are switching over to socialism
Post by: w1s3m0n on February 28, 2019, 07:28:00 PM
Socialism has a wide spectrum, so not sure exactly where each one of you guys draw your line on the scale.

America itself is not even full all out capitalism. It’s a mixed economy, leaning more to the right.

Even “conservatives” are not true to their principles and want socialism when things don’t go their ways. They are happy to privatize profits. But beg and cry to socialize their losses (gov’t bailouts, of which come from the public coffer), like the big banks and car manufacturers.

I don’t advocate for communism or hard socialism, as that’s not my political position, but at the very least have universal healthcare and some very basic income (guess you can call that welfare), something akin to canada... somewhere on the spectrum that’s a bit more left than where america is currently at.

HRock was preaching to the choir so let me preach to the choir with the quote he used:  Give a man a fish, and you feed him for a day.  Teach a man to fish, and you feed him for a lifetime.

This is an American ideal that we aspire to.  It is a very classical liberal approach because it focuses on personal responsibility and freedom.
Title: Re: lots of young folks are switching over to socialism
Post by: dogmai on March 05, 2019, 03:03:23 PM
HRock was preaching to the choir so let me preach to the choir with the quote he used:  Give a man a fish, and you feed him for a day.  Teach a man to fish, and you feed him for a lifetime.

This is an American ideal that we aspire to.  It is a very classical liberal approach because it focuses on personal responsibility and freedom.

A lot of people these days take that quote literally and that's problem. It should be reworded properly.
Give a man a fish, and you feed him for a day. Teach a man how to fish, and he feed himself for a lifetime.

This way, they don't expect you to feed him for a lifetime.
Title: Re: lots of young folks are switching over to socialism
Post by: w1s3m0n on March 05, 2019, 09:46:29 PM
For the less researched on why wage is dropping in America and wage is rising by double digits in China.  Whatever China is doing - CREATING MORE JOBS - is the right strategy.


(http://www.themanufacturinginstitute.org/~/media/395C927D9ABF4C9497ABB9E6B6F9E85E.ashx)
Title: Re: lots of young folks are switching over to socialism
Post by: YAX on March 07, 2019, 10:01:33 AM
These young millennial..

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