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News & Announcements => News Headlines => Hmong News => Topic started by: fOrEvEr_sUn_76 on April 15, 2015, 03:47:03 AM
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Just in case if you hadn't already seen it on Facebook. Here's the video upload on YouTube about the Hmoob Nplog singer Zeb Yaj held captive a Hmoob mekas and beat him senseless because he somehow flirt with his wife, girlfriend, haha or something. I dunoo, you guy watch and see for yourself...
To see the captive beating go here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c8ozK9tG4uI (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c8ozK9tG4uI)
Just in case you don't know who this Zeb Yaj dude is, go here. He's this guy (PS: Enjoy all the hilarious comments there):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?t=253&v=T0wyTOyZ-4Y (https://www.youtube.com/watch?t=253&v=T0wyTOyZ-4Y)
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I'd like to see a picture of Zeb Yaj's wife! Those hmoob mekas need to stop sending their SSI money to those Laos honey. Otherwise Zeb Yaj will come after you.
American Hmong girls are hotter still because we're better at everything; make-up, hair, dress, education, and we speak fluent English. Haha
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I happened to know this hmong mekas. Besides Mos Hlub (Zaj), he is the second best guitarist here in the USA. Too bad, I almost didn't recognize him because he gained alot of weight. For sure, I thought he was going to stab him. Heard that he's in jail now (Zeb).
Read that the hmong mekas guy was from Fresno, CA. Do you personally know him ?
Someone should post a picture of Zeb's wife.
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Kekeke.... >:D
HA'MAUG should stop going to Laos period. :idiot2:
So I read on Facebook that the Hmong American's name is Alain.....
And that Zeb Yaj won't be able to come after you anymore because the Thai officials locked him up after the beating with the knife....
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I thought this hmong meka look familiar.
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It's good that he's locked up.
Does anyone have a picture of Zeb's wife...It seems everyone wants to see how she looks like...
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l don't know the hmong Laos man looks scary n mean...did his wife get beat up by him too
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So I just saw a picture of his wife...She not even sexy looking like some Hmong American girls...Laugh out loud.....I don't know why guys would go there for bling bling.....Twg tsis nyiam zoo nkauj li los hom....
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dang it i was looking forward to a real beating, it's just someone being held captive with a big machete knife.
Yeah can someone post or link to his wife?
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For those who are looking for Zeb's wife photo here it is....And its a Hmong knife not a machete...
Like I said, "Twg tsis nyiam zoo nkauj li hom ua cas Hmoob mekas yuav mus nyiaj ua luag."
(https://scontent-sjc.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xaf1/v/t1.0-9/11137090_1442534609372630_2744721628399590769_n.jpg?oh=5a11eff35c3e173a7d55e6e406299b91&oe=55E3F101)
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oooii...so was there any extortion involved in this? or just an unfound rumor?
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2 kicks to the face
17 hits with the knife's blunt side (3 to the head and 14 to the arms and lower body part)
Pulling off a batch of hair
One chop at the pulled-off hair
Drawing the knife back in a position to stab forth onto the victim
"...I'm the enemy," he says in translation. "..The American, I already chased out in seventy-five. I'm afraid of you?..."
It's easy case for the prosecutor for sure.
Just in case if you hadn't already seen it on Facebook. Here's the video upload on YouTube about the Hmoob Nplog singer Zeb Yaj held captive a Hmoob mekas and beat him senseless because he somehow flirt with his wife, girlfriend, haha or something. I dunoo, you guy watch and see for yourself...
To see the captive beating go here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c8ozK9tG4uI (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c8ozK9tG4uI)
Just in case you don't know who this Zeb Yaj dude is, go here. He's this guy (PS: Enjoy all the hilarious comments there):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?t=253&v=T0wyTOyZ-4Y (https://www.youtube.com/watch?t=253&v=T0wyTOyZ-4Y)
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No doubt.
I'd like to see a picture of Zeb Yaj's wife! Those hmoob mekas need to stop sending their SSI money to those Laos honey. Otherwise Zeb Yaj will come after you.
American Hmong girls are hotter still because we're better at everything; make-up, hair, dress, education, and we speak fluent English. Haha
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She's got a kid already, too, huh?
For those who are looking for Zeb's wife photo here it is....And its a Hmong knife not a machete...
Like I said, "Twg tsis nyiam zoo nkauj li hom ua cas Hmoob mekas yuav mus nyiaj ua luag."
(https://scontent-sjc.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xaf1/v/t1.0-9/11137090_1442534609372630_2744721628399590769_n.jpg?oh=5a11eff35c3e173a7d55e6e406299b91&oe=55E3F101)
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The picture looks vintage. She's cute, I don't know what the big deal is about her but you're in Laos, there's over 300,000 Hmong people in one spot and over 3 million in China.
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Well, to my eyes she doesn't look all that...I mean I seen way prettier and beautiful Hmong American girls.
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I wonder how Allen was able to get her number or contact without her knowledge. Wouldn't that be infidelity on her part. Why is it that when a husband's wife cheat, he gets mad at the other guy. Should be mad at her. Maybe that's why we have double homicides. His wife should have said no, I'm married to Zeb Yaj the singer. Maybe she wanted Allen Lee the second best Hmong guitarist in US?
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If I was the Hmong American dude, I would return home and never step foot back in Laos...You have everything here in America, what else do you need? You got education, career, you live in a nice house, you can go buy and drink beer any time you want, you can party every weekend in Saint Paul, MN at Myth or that one other club(not Stargate)....
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I saw a FaceBook post from Alain's sister; apparently, it's a scam set up by the Lao-Hmong guy, his wife, and some other third party from the US. Zeb Yaj is a repeat offender and was arrested for this incident by the Lao law enforcement. The FBI is also involved as well but at which level I don't know.
SIMPLE RULE: OPP
Naughty by Nature put it best here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uFTBG1sae0M (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uFTBG1sae0M)
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I'm pretty sure she wanted to scam him for $$. She doesn't look all that, maybe it was her sweet words that enticed Alain ? Plenty of woman here in US..geesh..why settle for less.
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Sounds like she loves and is good at chasing guys who are into music.
I wonder how Allen was able to get her number or contact without her knowledge. Wouldn't that be infidelity on her part. Why is it that when a husband's wife cheat, he gets mad at the other guy. Should be mad at her. Maybe that's why we have double homicides. His wife should have said no, I'm married to Zeb Yaj the singer. Maybe she wanted Allen Lee the second best Hmong guitarist in US?
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Is that picture you post really of her? She looks like she's standing in front of a Chinese building. There's nothing like that in Laos.
Well, to my eyes she doesn't look all that...I mean I seen way prettier and beautiful Hmong American girls.
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We cannot really do justice overseas. I think the Lao Hmong guy will get off in some ways.
I saw a FaceBook post from Alain's sister; apparently, it's a scam set up by the Lao-Hmong guy, his wife, and some other third party from the US. Zeb Yaj is a repeat offender and was arrested for this incident by the Lao law enforcement. The FBI is also involved as well but at which level I don't know.
SIMPLE RULE: OPP
Naughty by Nature put it best here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uFTBG1sae0M (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uFTBG1sae0M)
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Right. There's nothing like that in Laos. :2funny:
I don't think that's a pix of her. She and the baby look chinese to me. ;D
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Right. There's nothing like that in Laos. :2funny: :2funny:
It's never been that cold in Laos. On the coldest winter nights and days, we've gotten by with shorts on. Believe and trust me. I've been there, done that. I was born in the north where it was supposed to be the coldest part of the country. We never suffered summer rashes.
Is it that cold in Laos where they have to wear fur jacket? never been there. Only in China where it snow. ;D
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I know right.. ;D It doesn't look like its her. Alain should have known better though to fall for those con artist.
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Looks like Risingstar has a lot to explain to us now.
I know right.. ;D It doesn't look like its her. Alain should have known better though to fall for those con artist.
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Is that picture you post really of her? She looks like she's standing in front of a Chinese building. There's nothing like that in Laos.
Yeah, I got it from a source...It took some time to get this picture....The building in the background isn't of a Chinese building. There are some houses now in Thailand and Laos that has many designs. Either the photo was taken with phone camera and imported in or either it was scanned in.
If you go on Ywjsiab Vaj's Facebook and research through some comments you will be able to find this photo....
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We'll just take your words for it then.
Yeah, I got it from a source...It took some time to get this picture....The building in the background isn't of a Chinese building. There are some houses now in Thailand and Laos that has many designs. Either the photo was taken with phone camera and imported in or either it was scanned in.
If you go on Ywjsiab Vaj's Facebook and research through some comments you will be able to find this photo....
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oh wow...so much drama. She must be a gold digger.
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Maybe not, cuz girls who are divorced from Hmong Miskas there will have taken their own lives for shame already. She wouldn't have lived to marry another Lao-Hmong guy.
According to some of the feeds in youtube. His wife was once married to a hmong meka, divorced hmong meka and then married Zeb. Any truth to this?
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Isn't it interesting how Zeb goes after the man and not after his own wife?
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Yes, I really want to see how beautiful this lady was for a famous Hmong Guitarist to go to Thailand...
Here is another picture of her in different clothes and close up....
(https://scontent-sjc.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xfa1/v/t1.0-9/22619_556804271089230_2447465517293460609_n.jpg?oh=8a2956cacc4aa0bdda708133dae2c54d&oe=55A697C1)
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But anyways.....th is story is getting out of hand and I'm not stop contributing to it because I don't want to be hit with a knife.... :knuppel2:
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that picture doesn't do justice. Kinda blurry. I wanna see one with out makeup and full pose.
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that picture doesn't do justice. Kinda blurry. I wanna see one with out makeup and full pose.
Gotta do some researching(reading all the comments in Hmong) if you follow closely at the convo you will come to the picture...
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You live in America. We have freedom of speech here, especially when it's a public issue. It can be discussed in depth.
Only when it's a private matter that you shouldn't be opening details up. For example, it's ok to bring up his wife's picture and maybe even say something about her backgrounds and how she may have gotten her picture on Tojsiab.com. But it's not ok to talk about her kids' lives and put them down just because of her and Zeb's doings.
But anyways.....th is story is getting out of hand and I'm not stop contributing to it because I don't want to be hit with a knife.... :knuppel2:
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Yeah, heard it too much: maum dev tsis tsa tw, txiv dev yeej tsis ...something. (Please complete.)
Yeah, you should listen to this guy and read all the comments. LOL
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=liuy8_9B_0o (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=liuy8_9B_0o)
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Why, koj tus pojniam nyob haus no lov? ;D
No, yog kuv yog ib tug txiv tsev zoo kuv tham ib ob peb los lus xwb yeeb zoo lawm. Thov nej sawv daws saib mus ntxiv thiab thov kom nej sawv daw noj qab nyob zoo.
No, I showed my wife the video and she said that Hmong meka guys mam always horny for Hmong Laos girls but I told her that, that is other people not I...I hlub I tus honey I tsis kam mus Laos because over there is a mine field...
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reading all the youtube comments. Damn...That Zeb guy is one nasty guy. She is so stupid, blame her too.
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this kind of incident causes a lot of tension and fear among our people. it also brings shame (worldwide) as it exposes the ugly side of hmong life, the exploitation of women, disrespect of others and disregard for human life (often being barbaric)... This might be the pivot point and separation of our people.
hmong knife for life!
Yea, the purpose of Hmong knife was to cut meat at Hmong gatherings.... I mean whoever has the best Hmong knife to cut through beef, pork or chicken would be well known....That is why whenever there is a gathering, relatives would go over to the person with the most "metal chairs, Hmong knifes, tables, propane tanks and other stuff" to borrow them.... :2funny:
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:2funny: :2funny: I can't stop laughing but this is so hmong...
:2funny: :2funny: You know its true hahaha.....
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... kekeke ... ::)
It looks well rehearsed if u ask me. The fact that it happened in public, the loving baby taps of the knife, the calmness of the crowd, and the cool clean breakup of the victim and his assailant, even hugging is just stupid if you want to put on a knife gutting show/act ... KEKEKE ... :idiot2:
Good performance though. Can't wait for the full F-class movie to come out with your typical Hmong-crap production values ... kekeke ... >:D
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Was this really a set-up for extortion by Zeb and his wife?
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Yes, I really want to see how beautiful this lady was for a famous Hmong Guitarist to go to Thailand...
Here is another picture of her in different clothes and close up....
(https://scontent-sjc.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xfa1/v/t1.0-9/22619_556804271089230_2447465517293460609_n.jpg?oh=8a2956cacc4aa0bdda708133dae2c54d&oe=55A697C1)
She's pretty here. No wonder Allain got hurt.
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It's an old picture. I think she no longer looks like that at the time of this conflict. She may have looked like that at other conflicts though. lol
She's pretty here. No wonder Allain got hurt.
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Yeah, you should listen to this guy and read all the comments. LOL
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=liuy8_9B_0o (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=liuy8_9B_0o)
The comments....LO L....
While holding that knife and hitting him why not chop off the hair too. The hair is not short and long so if your anger is to that point do more damage.... We would love to see more actions.... Blood all over otherwise why even bother to confront....
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His left hand already pulled a batch off. Look at the video carefully.
He's real strong. I work out a lot and I can't even imagine myself pulling someone's hair off just like that. It'd take me a lot more doing.
The comments....LO L....
While holding that knife and hitting him why not chop off the hair too. The hair is not short and long so if your anger is to that point do more damage.... We would love to see more actions.... Blood all over otherwise why even bother to confront....
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His left hand already pulled a batch off. Look at the video carefully.
He's real strong. I work out a lot and I can't even imagine myself pulling someone's hair off just like that. It'd take me a lot more doing.
You'd be surprise when you try...in fact you just never know when you'd be able to literally pinch the skin off of someone.
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This is probably why my adopted brother in Laos did not want to take us to visit Hmong people in the villages. They don't regard Hmong Mekas with much affection as Hmong Mekas do them.
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This stuff will continue to happen no matter what race you are, rich or poor. In countries where the law isn't quite defined and whatever goes, people will resort to such schemes, whether be extortion, robber, or which ever floats their boat.
I think it's safe to say that this dude and his gf/wife planned this. Why else would a man be having affair with another man's wife?
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Hmoob Mis Kas (perhaps not this Lee guy) but most deserved to be criminalized for child molestation and being sexual predators. Most that have frequented Laos/Thailand are up to no good.
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Hmoob Mis Kas (perhaps not this Lee guy) but most deserved to be criminalized for child molestation and being sexual predators. Most that have frequented Laos/Thailand are up to no good.
Yet u r ok with and promote parents there who are advertising/marketing their kids (sons/daughters) on the streets, airports, and Internet eh ... kekeke ... >:D. Hypocrites!
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Yet u r ok with and promote parents there who are advertising/marketing their kids (sons/daughters) on the streets, airports, and Internet eh ... kekeke ... >:D. Hypocrites!
Where did you see my approval stamp regarding that issue? Perhaps I have stamped it on your forehead already :2funny:? Talking about dev vwm barking without fact. To sound kinder and more PH appropriate, I should have said "don't be a dev vwm barking without fact. ;) ;).
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Where did you see my approval stamp regarding that issue? Perhaps I have stamped it on your forehead already :2funny:? Talking about dev vwm barking without fact. To sound kinder and more PH appropriate, I should have said "don't be a dev vwm barking without fact. ;) ;).
... kekeke ... :2funny:
Barking from experience eh Mr/Ms dev vwm barking without fact/s ... KEKEKE ... >:D
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There's miracle in things like that. lol
You'd be surprise when you try...in fact you just never know when you'd be able to literally pinch the skin off of someone.
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The wife is thin .....sorry guys l don't even know why she's so thin..scary
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The wife is thin .....sorry guys l don't even know why she's so thin..scary
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The hmong ladies in Laos are too thin n it is very scary
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First of all I don't understand why he's in Laos to begin with and is he by himself? Why doesn't his girlfriend or Zeb's wife or girlfriend that Alain was talking to come help him if she really loves him? I mean they were talking with each other and fell in love that's why he traveled over mountains, rivers, and oceans to come see her. LOL
Where's Zeb's wife in all of this? Doesn't she love Alain enough to come help him? His sister says that Zeb's done this before to other folks. You really need to talk to you wife, if she is talking to other guys and luring them in. It's either a scam or Zeb is dumb enough not to blame his wife? I almost want to believe the former but I honestly believe that Zeb is dumb enough not to blame his wife even though she is a slut.
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Wow, that is a horrific picture of the victim.
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Tim qhov niag Target ntawd xwb. Twb muaj qhov zoo zoo tas lawm mam lis mob mob ce kav liam thiab. Yus yeem yus lawm.
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... kekeke ... :2funny:
Those overseas punani/decks must b hella da besta ( esp Zeb's wife's punani) for all the US-Hmong OGs/losers b risking their lives just to sniff them like a stray dog n heat ... KEKEKE ... >:D ... kekeke ... :idiot2:
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what zeb did to him is not as bad as what he did to himself. :2funny:
... kekeke ... :2funny:
Thus a no-lifer/loser (trying to ua another man's punani) ... kekeke ... ::)
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For those who are looking for Zeb's wife photo here it is....And its a Hmong knife not a machete...
Like I said, "Twg tsis nyiam zoo nkauj li hom ua cas Hmoob mekas yuav mus nyiaj ua luag."
(https://scontent-sjc.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xaf1/v/t1.0-9/11137090_1442534609372630_2744721628399590769_n.jpg?oh=5a11eff35c3e173a7d55e6e406299b91&oe=55E3F101)
That kid tho!! LOL
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are you talking about his body? yeah, he gained twice the weight from the last time I met him, didn't even recognize him from the video, until confirmation from his family. :2funny: :2funny:
:-X :2funny: :2funny:
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...there's bad, crazy hmong people everywhere, we have so many cheating and domestic killings here in the u.s. , that was just one little cheating incident in laos, nothing compared to here in the u.s., including the rate of crimes and homicides on the news everyday.
Even though Laos is still under communist rule, it's pretty safe to travel there if you go peacefully and come back peacefully. Many problems that hmong u.s. have while over there are self inflicted problems. Many u.s. hmong folks go there looking for trouble and thinking they can do what they want over there, putting on any kind of behavior they want to because they are from the u.s., they have money, that's why they get into trouble. The country is not the problem, it's the people bringing it onto themselves.
Don't know the truth behind this incident but there are men who have fetish going after other men's wives, they like it even better than going after a single girl. Must be the thrill and danger that makes their blood thirst after married women.
Don't blame the country, it's just the few individuals, wether here in the u.s. or in Laos.
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That kid tho!! LOL
Yeah, I'm thinking that if she takes a picture with her kid, she can say to Hmong mekas that, that kid is theirs.....Its a scam to get Hmong Mekas to send money to them....
Hello, is your name Money Gram? Hahahaha.... :2funny:
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LOL! Found this its pretty funny!
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I'm trying to imagine who has the better scream... ZEB YAJ or HOWARD DEAN?
https://youtu.be/l6i-gYRAwM0 (https://youtu.be/l6i-gYRAwM0#)
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They aren't fit over there. They just look so. They lack nutrition.
The wife is thin .....sorry guys l don't even know why she's so thin..scary
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O0 O0 O0
I really like our Hmong's creativity these days, even zaubqaub.com.
LOL! Found this its pretty funny!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZkUiqtxEUuE# (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZkUiqtxEUuE#)
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Another man, a Mr. Vince Lee from Cal, who was her abandoned husband affirms that this is the wife Zeb and Alain are at issue over.
So, ok, that's her.
For those who are looking for Zeb's wife photo here it is....And its a Hmong knife not a machete...
Like I said, "Twg tsis nyiam zoo nkauj li hom ua cas Hmoob mekas yuav mus nyiaj ua luag."
(https://scontent-sjc.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xaf1/v/t1.0-9/11137090_1442534609372630_2744721628399590769_n.jpg?oh=5a11eff35c3e173a7d55e6e406299b91&oe=55E3F101)
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after re-watching the video, I'm not sure why the US guy didn't fight back to defend himself, he had so many chances to take one of those white chair and smack the crap out of that guy, so many chances.
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after re-watching the video, I'm not sure why the US guy didn't fight back to defend himself, he had so many chances to take one of those white chair and smack the crap out of that guy, so many chances.
I was just thinking the same thing... but I guess it is human nature. We are all built differently, some of us when face with that "fight or flight" scenario, will stand up and get physical. Others like this guys, will just stand there, because of fear or because of his character and do nothing.
I try to put myself in this situation and I don't think I would be as calm nor would I have let him treated me so. I figure he might get one good swipe at me, but if he should miss, I can assure you that his A$$ would be on the ground. But again, that's just me.
To me... this Zeb guys seems arrogant, incapable of forgiving... and the crowd, just standing there??? When did we lose our humanity? When did it become ok to treat each other in this way?
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after re-watching the video, I'm not sure why the US guy didn't fight back to defend himself, he had so many chances to take one of those white chair and smack the crap out of that guy, so many chances.
If you watch his guitar show, you will know why. ;D
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Can someone link up his guitar show? I want to see Alain in action with music. I think musicians have passionate souls so they don't get aggressive or violent. Just a thought.
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after re-watching the video, I'm not sure why the US guy didn't fight back to defend himself, he had so many chances to take one of those white chair and smack the crap out of that guy, so many chances.
Nawww ... I actually applaud Alain for doing the right thing especially overseas under that situation ... O0. Staying calm and letting that animal (Zeb) show the world what overseas Hmong are truly like cannot be better scripted. To that extent, I can honestly say I am proud of US-Hmong the likes of Alain. Too bad other US-Hmong who were not as cool did not meet a better fate and are all but a distant memory now ... :-X
(Now, had this incident occured in the USA, Alain would have every right to defend himself -- if he wanted -- and whoop Zeb's aZZ, even gut him with the knife if he were able to get it. The authorities would have said, "Good job son!" And perhaps even gave him a medal ... KEKEKE ... >:D )
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Another man, a Mr. Vince Lee from Cal, who was her abandoned husband affirms that this is the wife Zeb and Alain are at issue over.
So, ok, that's her.
Sorry to bust out this move, but I told you so...I had to do some long ass scrolling through comments to find this picture for you guys. Thought it was much appreciated because we all hate scrolling through flooded comments....La ugh out loud. O0
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That's probably the best short hmong youtube film up to date. You can watch it over and over, and it's still good.
But seriously, let's hope the u.s.hmong guy is innocent in all of this and he's just been conned by that couple. Some hell he went through, it's like the hmong Jesus Christ being tortured in public for everyone to see.
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This one pretty funny too.
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We had to have a second opinion because of the nature of the internet and ph.
Sorry to bust out this move, but I told you so...I had to do some long ass scrolling through comments to find this picture for you guys. Thought it was much appreciated because we all hate scrolling through flooded comments....La ugh out loud. O0
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Alain's ib tug tij lauj made this video response to Zeb Yaj. This guy means war now:
https://www.facebook.com/louie.thao.5/videos/vb.100001609178054/889226944474270/?type=3&theater (https://www.facebook.com/louie.thao.5/videos/vb.100001609178054/889226944474270/?type=3&theater)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1-zYjSbw0xE (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1-zYjSbw0xE)
Also Nom Phaj respond to the Zeb Yaj video as well:
https://www.facebook.com/100008841971563/videos/vb.100008841971563/1426464570991595/?type=3&theater (https://www.facebook.com/100008841971563/videos/vb.100008841971563/1426464570991595/?type=3&theater)
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Those videos are going viral on fb..lol. Even Nompha has more common sense. This should be a lesson learned for everyone going to Laos and thailand for young meat.
RedDragon - Alain was married before ? hmm...Maybe his failed married was a big disaapointment which lead him to prey on those vunlerable girls in laos. Typical of any failed hmong marriages these days.
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Hopefully he doesn't have any kids. I bet the ex wife is laughing her butt off at his stupidity.
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I'm going crazy. This topic again. ha :2funny:
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Nomphaj hais yog lawm thiab. Hmong cov me talk show hais tawm radio and online TV los ntov ntoo tsi saib ceg qhuav lis. Lam tau lam hais lus. Qhib Mouth lawm ce hais xwb kom tas yus lub me siab. Some of them need to apologize to the hmong.
Zoo lis lwm haiv tib neeg thuam hmoob twb mob txhus tus ti nkaus bone. Hmoob rov thuam hmoob ma tsi tseg ib qhov lis.
God bless hmong!
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does anyone know why hmong men in laos use their wife for sex to get us dollar?
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I'm asking this question because i'm not going to deny the truth that many of the hmong men in laos use their wives for sex or in relationship with the hmong men from usa for money......doe s anyone know why the hmong men in laos would do this sort of thing
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I HAVE BEEN TO LAOS THREE TIMES AND AFTER SEEING THIS SITUATION...I DONT WANT TO GO ANYMORE OR SUPPORT HMOOB LAOS
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I FEEL HMOOB LAOS CAN JUST MAKE UP SOMETHING AGAINST A PERSON AND KILL ANYTIME
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does anyone know why hmong men in laos use their wife for sex to get us dollar?
EZ lay ... ooops ... I meant $PAY$ ... kekeke ... :2funny:
(It is a no brainer ... duh!)
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I FEEL HMOOB LAOS CAN JUST MAKE UP SOMETHING AGAINST A PERSON AND KILL ANYTIME
In a practically LAWLESS (corrupt) 3rd World Country like Laos, Cambodia, Vietnam, and even in Thailand that is the law more often than not. Anyone/everyone can get away with murder -- purely on accusation, lies, and most popular of all "bribery" if you have the $money$.
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I HAVE BEEN TO LAOS THREE TIMES AND AFTER SEEING THIS SITUATION...I DONT WANT TO GO ANYMORE OR SUPPORT HMOOB LAOS
I have NEVER supported overseas Hmong in any fashion (due to multiple infractions since our exodus of 1975), except for the rare occassion when my parents send money back to their relatives who plead for monetary assistance.
I do not buy overseas music CDs, videos, embroideries (unknowingly), and/or even attend any concerts/performances helmed by any overseas artists/singers here in the states. In fact I speak openly AGAINST all of these nonsense. And people (Hmong) accuse me of being anti-Hmong. I am PRO-Hmong but for the right reasons. Not just to give overseas Hmong a pretty penny and an excuse to further their exploitation of US-Hmong. That is my personal belief and advent for and towards Hmong progress, development, and modernization.
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Proverty. Even noj pha video, he claimed and acknowledged that some hmong men allow their wives to talk to hmong meeka to get $$$. The women would lied that they are single to gain interest.
This is a true fact. But some Hmong American men are blinded due to love. ;D
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Mekas Los yeej Muaj phone sex thiab Los Mas ...
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after re-watching the video, I'm not sure why the US guy didn't fight back to defend himself, he had so many chances to take one of those white chair and smack the crap out of that guy, so many chances.
I read somewhere that the video didn't capture the whole situation. Apparently, Zeb had people armed with AKs with him.
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I'm tired of this new.... the knife is just too scary....the hmong lao guy is at fault and he has no proof showing any connection to his wife's affair with the US Hmong man....the hmong lao just needs to shut up and know that its not okay use a sharp knife to wanting to kill anyone....
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laos is one of the poorest country....it is sad but is it the truth.......
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laos is one of the poorest country....it is sad but is it the truth.......
True but in this time and age, I don't think that would apply anymore. The middle east to me seems poorer, I mean you had Hmong Lao with their make-ups, motorcycles, iPhones, HD camera, internet, cars, and such. Those that lived near Vientiane are living like us now. Only such few like them farmer Hmong that lived in the mountains may be the only poor but more and more Lao Hmong are living similar lives like over here. The country is still corrupted but the people there aren't that poor. Some had jobs and went to school there so you just can't call that as poor and there are less conflict there now. Many Hmong Lao came to terms with the Lao government and lived under communist law, in doing so they are allow to live just like Lao citizen and even build their own business. I think countries like Jordan and Nigeria are much poorer, them people there still lived in huts and barely even had shoes to wear. Of course those are countries where scammers reside but the fact that it had scammers means it's still very poor that many citizen turns to scamming just to get a little bit of profit to survive.
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... kekeke ... ;D
U need to do better research and look at actual STATS (GDPs etc.) Versus what u think or see on TV which is dead Wrong.
Foremost the Middle East is by far Wealthier and more developed than SEAsia (Laos) by far. Just because u see the war torn images on TV means nothing compared to how civilized it is overall. True there are pockets of poorly developed regions but not like SEAsia (Laos) where the entire country is still impoverished. The same applies to the African nations u mentioned.
Simply put, your OIL comes from the Middle East and your GOLD n JEWELS comes from Africa. Practically NOTHING comes from SEAsia, namely Laos. At least Thailand has prostitution ... KEKEKE ... >:D
And I wouldn't call Vientienne developed necessarily either just because it happens to have some modern looking buildings and shops erected by foreign investors/Owners ... kekeke ... O0
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Laos is a poor country.
How do people with no economic status and no power exploit us almighty, wonderful, progressive and great Hmong Americans?
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... kekeke ... ;D
U need to do better research and look at actual STATS (GDPs etc.) Versus what u think or see on TV which is dead Wrong.
Foremost the Middle East is by far Wealthier and more developed than SEAsia (Laos) by far. Just because u see the war torn images on TV means nothing compared to how civilized it is overall. True there are pockets of poorly developed regions but not like SEAsia (Laos) where the entire country is still impoverished. The same applies to the African nations u mentioned.
Simply put, your OIL comes from the Middle East and your GOLD n JEWELS comes from Africa. Practically NOTHING comes from SEAsia, namely Laos. At least Thailand has prostitution ... KEKEKE ... >:D
And I wouldn't call Vientienne developed necessarily either just because it happens to have some modern looking buildings and shops erected by foreign investors/Owners ... kekeke ... O0
Wow I guess I you got a point there, still there are a few that are kinda as poor like in Laos. I mean I know in terms of corporate and stuff, the countries ain't so poor but the people there still suffer from a lack of support from their government and stuff. Hopefully someday I could go and see Laos for myself, not going for a bride or anything though, I have that already. Just want to see how the people there lived and see the beauty side of it.
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http://youtu.be/d2Bq72-KuC8 (http://youtu.be/d2Bq72-KuC8)
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Laos is a poor country.
How do people with no economic status and no power exploit us almighty, wonderful, progressive and great Hmong Americans?
... kekeke ... :2funny:
The simple answer is that Hmong - US tseem RUAM tshaj Hmong SEAsia despite having superior opportunities etc. ... KEKEKE ... >:D
Examp: A Hmong SEAsia brings over a piece of Rock they picked up by the hundreds off a rural road in SEAsia and tells a Hmong - US it is enchanted mineral and will gladly sell it for $5K though worth more. The Hmong - US negotiates it down to $4K and thinks they have hit the LOTTO ... :idiot2:
The Hmong SEAsia just made a fortune selling a worthless piece of Rock ... kekeke ... :o
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True but in this time and age, I don't think that would apply anymore. The middle east to me seems poorer, I mean you had Hmong Lao with their make-ups, motorcycles, iPhones, HD camera, internet, cars, and such. Those that lived near Vientiane are living like us now. Only such few like them farmer Hmong that lived in the mountains may be the only poor but more and more Lao Hmong are living similar lives like over here. The country is still corrupted but the people there aren't that poor. Some had jobs and went to school there so you just can't call that as poor and there are less conflict there now. Many Hmong Lao came to terms with the Lao government and lived under communist law, in doing so they are allow to live just like Lao citizen and even build their own business. I think countries like Jordan and Nigeria are much poorer, them people there still lived in huts and barely even had shoes to wear. Of course those are countries where scammers reside but the fact that it had scammers means it's still very poor that many citizen turns to scamming just to get a little bit of profit to survive.
Today, if one does research he or she will see that Laos is still listed as one of the poorest country in the world. Many Hmong people especially the ones in Laos will not recognize or accept this but it is the truth. My advice to the Hmong people in Laos is that the truth hurts if you live in a poor country but we as human beings cannot deny the truth because it is a fact. Furthermore, another advice to the Hmong people in Laos is that without the US dollars MANY of you will not have a motorcycle to ride, a warm shelter to stay in, clean water to drink, good food to eat especially meat, and money to support your kids. The whole truth to all this is that that if US dollars is not allow into Laos no more many of the Hmong people in Laos will suffer a lot more. Therefore, my suggestion for you all is to stop complaining and pretend to not know that it was evil and at fault for ZEJ YAJ to held a sharp knife in attempting to kill the USA Hmong man in front of small children or others. How would you all feel if someone held a sharp knife to beat and attempt to kill you in front of everyone?
Anyway, last advice for the Hmong people in Laos is that if you guys truly believe that the USA man is a fault then where is your evident or proof of the love relationship because all we see is your words nothing else. Also, how come the woman who created all this mess between the two men is nowhere to be found and none of you knows why she wanted to pursuit another man when she is a married woman. A woman who has a husband and still tries to pursuit another man especially for sex is consider a prostitute, slut, hooker, or whore. In this case your Laos Hmong woman is consider all of this because that’s what she tried very hard to do in this case since you guys keep saying she had a sexual relationship but no proof of it yourself. Anyway, if guys truly wanted to make this situation fair then all of you would of brought the woman and question her why she wanted to do prostitute work and punish her too.
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Today, if one does research he or she will see that Laos is still listed as one of the poorest country in the world. Many Hmong people especially the ones in Laos will not recognize or accept this but it is the truth. My advice to the Hmong people in Laos is that the truth hurts if you live in a poor country but we as human beings cannot deny the truth because it is a fact. Furthermore, another advice to the Hmong people in Laos is that without the US dollars MANY of you will not have a motorcycle to ride, a warm shelter to stay in, clean water to drink, good food to eat especially meat, and money to support your kids. The whole truth to all this is that that if US dollars is not allow into Laos no more many of the Hmong people in Laos will suffer a lot more. Therefore, my suggestion for you all is to stop complaining and pretend to not know that it was evil and at fault for ZEJ YAJ to held a sharp knife in attempting to kill the USA Hmong man in front of small children or others. How would you all feel if someone held a sharp knife to beat and attempt to kill you in front of everyone?
Anyway, last advice for the Hmong people in Laos is that if you guys truly believe that the USA man is a fault then where is your evident or proof of the love relationship because all we see is your words nothing else. Also, how come the woman who created all this mess between the two men is nowhere to be found and none of you knows why she wanted to pursuit another man when she is a married woman. A woman who has a husband and still tries to pursuit another man especially for sex is consider a prostitute, slut, hooker, or whore. In this case your Laos Hmong woman is consider all of this because that’s what she tried very hard to do in this case since you guys keep saying she had a sexual relationship but no proof of it yourself. Anyway, if guys truly wanted to make this situation fair then all of you would of brought the woman and question her why she wanted to do prostitute work and punish her too.
Truer words never being spoken. I fully agree with your arguments there.
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RDF...you got it all wrong...this is the real story!
http://www.zaubqaub.com/2015/04/after-failed-musical-career-laos-war-hero-turns-to-extortion/ (http://www.zaubqaub.com/2015/04/after-failed-musical-career-laos-war-hero-turns-to-extortion/)
People who find this type of made-up craps funny must be so dumb they don't know what funny is anymore :idiot2: :idiot2: :idiot2: :idiot2:.
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The Hmong-Lao are butt-hurt because there's a lot of truth in what the Hmong-USA said about them in their country. They do depend on receiving aid from relatives living in the USA to help them in their own country because their country has few opportunities.
The Hmong-Lao should just take that guy's lecture with a grain of salt. Besides, he wasn't only lecturing the Hmong-Lao but Hmong-USA, too. In fact, his video was more aimed at Hmong-USA. But no Hmong-USA is butt-hurt over his lecturing.
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Don't be patronizing. This whole situation of sexual exploitation is not the same as relatives sending money overseas to sustain a comfortable life. The money used in exploitation isn't setting up work income and work experience opportunities and the money simply goes to those who are willing to used their daughters in such way or those who are conniving enough to manipulate men. It's quite disgusting when Hmong-Americans say that they rely on "us". Who's us? How many of you are sending money overseas on a regular basis?
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Don't be patronizing. This whole situation of sexual exploitation is not the same as relatives sending money overseas to sustain a comfortable life. The money used in exploitation isn't setting up work income and work experience opportunities and the money simply goes to those who are willing to used their daughters in such way or those who are conniving enough to manipulate men. It's quite disgusting when Hmong-Americans say that they rely on "us". Who's us? How many of you are sending money overseas on a regular basis?
... kekeke ... :2funny:
Granted the HA'Mung may not be the majority of "us" but without a doubt Hmong-Americans are the "us" most if not ALL Hmong SEAsians look to, depend upon, and seek out economic patronage from ... KEKEKE ... O0
(But no one, especially a/the HA'Mung would know, comprehend, and avow such a no nonsense and practicality of and about "us" ... kekeke ... :idiot2:)
$Hint$: "us" are the ONLY folks, aka "us", for the past 40+years to date in the USA who would care to buy anything from them (overseas) like their handycrafts, embroideries, herbal meds, music videos/albums etc. and would even care to sponsor them (the few notable artists) to perform (concerts) here in the USA. Without "us" they have practically NO market ($cashflow$) in the "USA" to their overseas pockets ... KEKEKE ... DOLT! ... kekeke ... >:D
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Don't be patronizing. This whole situation of sexual exploitation is not the same as relatives sending money overseas to sustain a comfortable life. The money used in exploitation isn't setting up work income and work experience opportunities and the money simply goes to those who are willing to used their daughters in such way or those who are conniving enough to manipulate men. It's quite disgusting when Hmong-Americans say that they rely on "us". Who's us? How many of you are sending money overseas on a regular basis?
The "us" is anybody who has or is currently sending money to a close relative in Laos to support them. Those are the lucky ones who don't have to resort to pimping out their daughters and wives. Not every Hmong-Lao is blessed to have a living relative in USA that still cares about them.
I don't know about your clan but in my husband's clan there are still close relatives in Laos. Many of them rely on the ones in USA for such things as to send their children to college, to open up business, to build a house, etc.. They won't deny that many people are poor. Lucky for them, they have a clan that hasn't forgotten about them and will pool resources and money to fly one or two of them out to America to stay months at a time. Without the clan in the USA, many of them would not be living as they do now.
It's not patronizing, it's the truth. The Hmong-Lao guy in the video is taking it the wrong way. If he's so well-off and comfortable then perhaps he should stop asking his relatives in America to wire money to him.
What he should've said was that even though there are poor Hmong living in Laos, the arrangement they have with their own relatives in USA is no concern to the Hmong-USA guy. It's not like they are begging money from him or every Hmong-USA. They aren't setting up stupid gofundme accounts begging money from Hmong who have no relations to them.
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A ha'clueless HA'MUNG is not expected to understand much less know/avow base logic/ facts/realities.
Example: Vietnamese restaurants are arguably 95% Pho/fast food eateries, not even your semi-wine-n-dine joint. For them to expect a tip to bring you a bowl of soup/noodles is absurd. They, Viets, hardly tip themselves. Besides "tipping" is a courtesy based on the level of service, not a mandate. But don't expect a HA'MUNG to understand this universal no nonsense fun fact ... kekeke ... >:D
At least we agree on this. I always tip and I'm usually a very generous tipper BUT I NEVER TIP AT A VIETNAMESE RESTAURANT. If anything I feel they should tip me for tolerating their shitty and rude services.
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At least we agree on this. I always tip and I'm usually a very generous tipper BUT I NEVER TIP AT A VIETNAMESE RESTAURANT. If anything I feel they should tip me for tolerating their shitty and rude services.
That will go for Saigon Pho here. Shitty service and the wait is 30-40 min. Not even friendly where you would have the manager or waitress asked how is the foods. No place to go for pho so guess just put up with it each time I got there. The one in Los Banos you told me I went one time but the next time it look like I can find it or it's no longer in business.
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Please don't pretend. We are Hmong, we know Hmong people, we live with Hmong people. Don't pretend like you know something I don't. I know Hmong people are stingy with tip regardless of the service. Here you guys go trying to make it seem like Hmong-Americans shower everyone with money. You still haven't argued my point (because you know I'm right) that there is very little money going to Laos for legitimate reasons such as income to sustain a comfortable life. The rest is just for sexual exploitation and even then, this is not every family whoring their daughters/wives. Like I said, there are over 150,000 more Hmong living in Laos than the USA. Somehow, you guys are making it seem like all of the 400,000+ Hmong-Lao are relying on us 200,000+ Hmong-Americans. Flawed argument. I highly doubt even 1/4 of Hmong-American households have a relative in Laos and continually send money to make sure they have three hots and a cot. Morons.
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Please don't pretend. We are Hmong, we know Hmong people, we live with Hmong people. Don't pretend like you know something I don't. I know Hmong people are stingy with tip regardless of the service. Here you guys go trying to make it seem like Hmong-Americans shower everyone with money. You still haven't argued my point (because you know I'm right) that there is very little money going to Laos for legitimate reasons such as income to sustain a comfortable life. The rest is just for sexual exploitation and even then, this is not every family whoring their daughters/wives. Like I said, there are over 150,000 more Hmong living in Laos than the USA. Somehow, you guys are making it seem like all of the 400,000+ Hmong-Lao are relying on us 200,000+ Hmong-Americans. Flawed argument. I highly doubt even 1/4 of Hmong-American households have a relative in Laos and continually send money to make sure they have three hots and a cot. Morons.
Who said anything about Hmong-USA showering them with money? That is your own words. :idiot2: I said that many Hmong-Lao rely on relatives in the USA and that's only if they have any or have ones who still care about them.
You contradict your own argument. If the Hmong-Lao are as well off as they (and you claim) then there would be no need for them to pimp out the women for the Hmong-USA who do go over there for fun in the sack. Furthermore, you seem to be completely unaware of how these arrangements work. No Hmong USA steps foot in Laos without a pre-made arrangement. Even in the cases where some of those women and their mothers have no shame to wait at the airports, many of them are there to meet Hmong-USA men whom they have already contacted and scheduled appointments with.
Btw, your reference to "tipping" is **** yawns ****. That's a whole other debate though and one that has nothing to do with being cheap.
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Any updates on this news?
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... kekeke ... :2funny:
HUNG TO LU < --- this ha'clueless HA'MUNG is ... :idiot2:
(That is the ONLY argument/explanation needed ... KEKEKE ... >:D )
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ye1DI-SXNik (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ye1DI-SXNik)
this is the best respond to the Zej Yaj case zong khang speech
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ye1DI-SXNik (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ye1DI-SXNik)
this is the best respond to the Zej Yaj case zong khang speech
... kekeke ... :2funny:
A rhetorical diplomatic plea is not necessarily a "best respond" ... KEKEKE ... >:D
ZKYang <--- :D ... kekeke ... nuff said ... KEKEKE ... :-X
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You contradict your own argument. If the Hmong-Lao are as well off as they (and you claim) then there would be no need for them to pimp out the women for the Hmong-USA who do go over there for fun in the sack.
Find and quote where I said they were well off and I'll permanently ban myself from PH. Saying that "Hmong-Laos do not rely on Hmong-Americans to survive." is not the same as saying "They are fukken rich and they don't need us." Surviving and thriving are not the same. If Hmong-Laos were so dependent on Hmong-Americans, they would've all died off before Hmong people became more thriving in USA since the 1980s. It takes 2-3 weeks of no food and water for a human to go into dying mode. But somehow, 40+ years later, MAGIC! POOF! There's 450,000 of them still kicking! GASP! And it took not $1.00 from Hmong-American money!
Even in the cases where some of those women and their mothers have no shame to wait at the airports, many of them are there to meet Hmong-USA men whom they have already contacted and scheduled appointments with.
Actually, you further support my argument. The majority of money going to Hmong-Laos communities are for sexual exploitation. Thank you come again.
Like I said, there are 150,000 more Hmong living in Laos than there are in USA. The majority of Hmong-Americans no longer have relatives in Laos or even if they have relatives, they either don't know their relatives well enough to send money, or they don't care to send money. It's absurd to claim that the 200,000 Hmong-Americans are somehow supporting the lives of the majority of the 450,000+ Hmong-Laos. Hell, most of us individual Hmong-Americans are living at or near the poverty lines. The only saving grace is that within our culture, it's normal to live with our parents and relatives and this provides extra income for mortgage and bills.
Believe n Me, instead of trying to dissect my post, why don't you just argue my point? Oh wait! You can't!
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Find and quote where I said they were well off and I'll permanently ban myself from PH. Saying that "Hmong-Laos do not rely on Hmong-Americans to survive." is not the same as saying "They are fukken rich and they don't need us." Surviving and thriving are not the same. If Hmong-Laos were so dependent on Hmong-Americans, they would've all died off before Hmong people became more thriving in USA since the 1980s. It takes 2-3 weeks of no food and water for a human to go into dying mode. But somehow, 40+ years later, MAGIC! POOF! There's 450,000 of them still kicking! GASP! And it took not $1.00 from Hmong-American money!
Actually, you further support my argument. The majority of money going to Hmong-Laos communities are for sexual exploitation. Thank you come again.
Like I said, there are 150,000 more Hmong living in Laos than there are in USA. The majority of Hmong-Americans no longer have relatives in Laos or even if they have relatives, they either don't know their relatives well enough to send money, or they don't care to send money. It's absurd to claim that the 200,000 Hmong-Americans are somehow supporting the lives of the majority of the 450,000+ Hmong-Laos. Hell, most of us individual Hmong-Americans are living at or near the poverty lines. The only saving grace is that within our culture, it's normal to live with our parents and relatives and this provides extra income for mortgage and bills.
Believe n Me, instead of trying to dissect my post, why don't you just argue my point? Oh wait! You can't!
Blamed the Hmong Meskas who has too much time on their hand to visited Laos 4-6 months out of a year. Their $$ is going toward sexual exploitation otherwise what is their purpose of going there in the 1st place. Only a small percentage will go because they have relatives meaning their real parents or siblings are still there otherwise most are just there to be a imposter when back home they are just a loser working under the table, in their 20/30s still living at home with parents, etc. Hmong Nplog survival in Laos as always been the same for many generation from farming or working hard together as family and the more you work hard together the more you can provided for your family and get through each year. Only a small percentage of Hmong Meskas are still sending money over there but I believed its more because its their parents or siblings that is still around.
What Hmong Meskas is doing allowed Hmong Nplog to take advantage, scheme, etc. Which is why they want the same 5k as we do here. 5k can go a long way for them while 5k here for us is hard to save. At the same time those who married one from there is providing too good for her while she is waiting to come. Some will go as far as renting a home, buy a motorbike, etc. They sound so desperate like she's the only one. Then you got those later who would complained about how much money they wasted or spend for her when they get divorced. My oldest bil whenever he and his wife argue or whatever he like to remind us what a haha she is and if he knew blah blah and then how he wasted 20k. I believed average Hmong here in the US are not that well off to be doing it but must be a show off to those young bride over there in Laos. We have to work hard to save $$ but to throw it down the drain for a pussy in Laos that at the end cheat, don't come, etc. .
IF you break it down to those who keep going to Laos.....
1- cov yawg laus noj nyiaj ssi
2- cov wear suit and tie like they work office job or just say Lao-Family
3- cov loser guy that here he can't do anything with his life, still living with his parents, etc.
I can't put nraug laus in those category because some of them have a life, job, etc.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e_y59-89blI (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e_y59-89blI)
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HUNG TU LO LISTEN TO THIS YOU TUBE AND MAKE SENSE OUT OF IT
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e_y59-89blI (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e_y59-89blI)
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HUNG TU LO LISTEN TO THIS YOU TUBE AND MAKE SENSE OUT OF IT
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e_y59-89blI (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e_y59-89blI)
That moron has no empirical data. You build your opinion from one source, a YouTube clip of one guy's view? He pulled the "80% of Hmong-Laos prey on Hmong-American for money" out of his asss. What's 80% of 450,000? That's 360,000...so.........360,000 Hmong-Laos are preying on Hmong-Americans at any given time? There are about 250,000 Hmong living in the USA and this census includes all children as well as all adults who can no longer function without assistance. So if you take a liberal guess at the number of male Hmong-American adults ages 30 - 60 who has the income as well as the desire to visit Laos, I would say maybe there's 30,000 and that's a damn liberal number because we all now there ain't no damn 30,000 Hmong men visiting Laos. So 360,000 Hmong-Laos cannot be preying on 30,000 Hmong-American men. Imagine 360,000 lions preying on 30,000 zebras - the lions would all die out because there's not enough meat to go around.
Even if we cut down the Hmong-Laos population to one-half of that guy's moronic 80% - that's 180,000 so we'll round it down to 150,000 for ease of explanation - that still doesn't make sense! 150,000 Hmong-Laos women foaming at the mouth waiting to prey on a pool of 30,000 Hmong-American men? At most, a single Hmong-American man can be preyed upon by two, maybe three women before he goes broke and ready to come home or he's...cum enough. That means that about 90,000 Hmong-Laos women misses the opportunity to prey on the Hmong-American men before he is done, whether in the wallet or in the sack. Bottom line, there is not enough supply (of Hmong-American men) to meet the demand (of taking their money). Most Hmong-Laos are righteous or smart enough to realize this and get money some other way (DUUURRRRRRRRRR RRRR - it's not hard to realize). Now, this is where many of you are having trouble realizing. You aren't the only smart ones. Americans are not the only ones smart enough to find a way to survive and/or thrive. And just because someone lives in a poor country, they don't have to suck ****k to get Hmong gai choy and bamboo shoots for the dinner table. Your grandparents use to live in Laos before 1970s. Did they have to suck some ****k for a bag of rice? I didn't think so.
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HUNG TU LO <--- ... kekeke ... ur edumacated HA'Mung rant is :2funny: ( :idiot2:)
If u r so edumacated with your rant why not just simply do an "online (if u r looking for irrefuttable FACTS from ALL renowned/accredited sources)" research on GPDs of Laos etc. compared to the rest of the world HA'Mung ... KEKEKE ... >:D.
(Oh yeah, u r clueless as to what "GPD" is or what it means ... kekeke ... ::))
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hung tu lo...what part in the you tube don't you understand? Just wondering
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HUNG TU LO <--- ... kekeke ... ur edumacated HA'Mung rant is :2funny: ( :idiot2:)
If u r so edumacated with your rant why not just simply do an "online (if u r looking for irrefuttable FACTS from ALL renowned/accredited sources)" research on GPDs of Laos etc. compared to the rest of the world HA'Mung ... KEKEKE ... >:D.
(Oh yeah, u r clueless as to what "GPD" is or what it means ... kekeke ... ::))
Gross domestic product. And it's GDP, not GPD, Gotham Police Department, kekeekekeke. Any 7th grader can answer that. We aren't discussing nations' wealth in terms of production and the gross value of products. We are discussing the money/sexual exploitation situation between Hmong-American (men) and Hmong-Laos (women). Stay on the subject please. Clueless?
Again, I never said Laos and Hmong-Laos citizens were so prosperous. As I have also challenged Believe N Me, I'll extend my challenge to you as well. He/she hasn't answered back because obviously, I never said such things and I'm sure you'll never answer back the challenge as well.
Find and quote where I said they were well off and I'll permanently ban myself from PH. Saying that "Hmong-Laos do not rely on Hmong-Americans to survive." is not the same as saying "They are fukken rich and they don't need us." Surviving and thriving are not the same.
hung tu lo...what part in the you tube don't you understand? Just wondering
What part don't you understand when I said it's just one guy who made a youtube video in his basement? He's just ranting and expressing his opinion. That's fine but when someone starts shooting off numbers and statistics (example: when he said "80% of Hmong-Laos prey on Hmong-American men to take their money") without any empirical data as well as citations of where they found such information (must be scholarly journal to count), you need to take a step back and realize he's just ranting and his speech should not be taken seriously.
If you want to take that as "fact" and develop your own conclusion and thoughts based on this one youtube clip, go for it. But, I would not do such a thing until I've looked into dozens of materials and think rationally and intelligently about the subject.
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Based on what's been said, and it's not hard to see, many of you believe that the vast majority of Hmong-Laos are whoring out their daughters, whoring out their wives, or simply, young teenage girls and adult women are independently whoring themselves to Hmong-men in order to coax their wallets.
I've already provided the calculations and we'll review, kiddos: there are about 250,000 Hmong in the USA and roughly 200,000 more Hmong in Laos, putting the total of Hmong-Laos at over 450,000. If we take a liberal and lax approach to try to ignore the population of Hmong children, frail elderly and those that do not desire to go to Laos, we could say that there are 30,000 Hmong-American men visiting Laos concurrently in any given 12-month span. Ok, so we do the same for Hmong-Laos population and can come to liberal number that 150,000...hell, let's make it super-liberal and round it up to 200,000 Hmong-Laos women are preying on Hmong-American men at any given 12-month span.
So think about it logically, rationally, and intelligently. ...in theory, how in the galaxy is 200,000 women preying on 30,000 Hmong men and actually making a living? How can a pool of 30,000 Hmong men have enough money to give out to sexually exploit a population greater by 600%?
http://www.hndinc.org/cmsAdmin/uploads/dlc/HND-Census-Report-2013.pdf (http://www.hndinc.org/cmsAdmin/uploads/dlc/HND-Census-Report-2013.pdf)
Page 28: " The decline in overall poverty
in the Hmong population from 40% in 2000 to 25% in 2010 is a sign
that they are doing better. However, income remains a significant
issue for the community and today the Hmong remain one of the
poorest ethnic groups in the U.S. Family and per capita income
rank much lower than the general population."
So 30,000 Hmong-American men, many of whom we all know are in manual labor workforce with very few Hmong business owners, uppermanagemen t, etc., actually desiring to go to Laos to exploit sex, are somehow supporting a pool of 200,000 Hmong-Laos women? Come on, people, THINK. We all know that the more rich and educated a Hmong man becomes, he is less likely to go to Laos and hence, why there are these toothless old creep Hmong men going over to Laos and not a flock of average looking, $50,000+ (USA general median) yearly income, educated, 20 - 30 year olds.
Just think about this shiit logically and rationally using your cerebral cortex and stop using that part of your brain that you Hmong people keep using everyday to watch MTV or some garbage Hmong dub YouTube clip.
CONCLUSION: it is not logical, based on lack of empirical data as well as sound reasoning and intelligent thinking, that would suggest that the majority or many of Hmong-Laos women prey on Hmong-American men. It would be logical and reasonable to assume that it is a small minority that engages in such activity of using their bodies for monetary gain.
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... kekeke ... :2funny:
HUNG TU LO <--- weren't your main argument about Hmong-Lao population being 450K (compared to the USA's measely 300K) not seeking "handouts" from Hmong-USA. Now you're ranting other nonse (to try and negate your original crass) ... KEKEKE ... >:D
The mention of GDP was to give you the very basis/facts to augment your initial rudimentary clueless argument ... kekeke ... >:D
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Have ya seen the movie " edge of tomorrow"? Seems like you two are just repeating the same Shit over and over again for like 2 ducken page already. LOL :idiot2:
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Have ya seen the movie " edge of tomorrow"? Seems like you two are just repeating the same Shit over and over again for like 2 ducken page already. LOL :idiot2:
... kekeke ... :2funny:
No. But a clueless HA'MUNG does need to repetitively get squashed, stumped, trampled etc to finally get a clue for being so :idiot2: ... like TCruise's char ... KEKEKE ... >:D
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Hung tu lo,
If you don't want to respond back to the message that was directed in the You Tube to Zej Yaj then that’s fine because no one is demanding you too. Anyway, one thing I wanted you to get out of the You Tube message is that there were so many Hmong people Laos who saw Zej with a very sharp knife beating and trying to kill The US Hmong man but no one tried to stop him. There were voices telling Zej to pursuit the killing until there was a pool of blood. Also, the people seem to enjoy the whole whipping and beating. Hung tu lo, if you are a 100 percent blood Hmong person and know that Hmoob should love Hmoob and feel pain, grief, sadness , or regret about the whole situation then you would not deny that beating and whipping is the best solution in this case.
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Hung tu lo, if you are a 100 percent blood Hmong person and know that Hmoob should love Hmoob and feel pain, grief, sadness , or regret about the whole situation then you would not deny that beating and whipping is the best solution in this case.
Quote me where I said that the beating was justified and I'll permanently ban myself from PH.
HUNG TU LO <--- weren't your main argument about Hmong-Lao population being 450K (compared to the USA's measely 300K) not seeking "handouts" from Hmong-USA. Now you're ranting other nonse (to try and negate your original crass)
My argument which is still the same, has been that it is not logical to say that many or most of Hmong-Laos women are preying on Hmong-American men because there is not enough supply of Hmong-American men and their wallets are not fat enough for the small number of Hmong-American men to pass out money to a pool of Hmong-Laos women that is 400%, 500%, maybe 600% of their size.
Everything I have wrote has supported my original argument. Quote me where I digress from my original argument and I will permanently ban myself from PH. My challenge is here for everyone to see. If this moron can do this, I will never log in from this IP address again and never visit PH and I can even get a moderator involved to oversee this challenge I have set for chidori.
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Woah, you guys have gone a long way with this issue but I'm with hung to low on this one. I mean, just look at the title of this thread, "Zeb Yaj Beat the Crap out of Hmoob Mekas."
No, Zeb Yaj knife whipped Alain Lee.
Zeb did not beat the crap out of Hmong Mekas, but the sudden nationalism coming out of those Hmong Meeka who are butt hurt is kinda funny. :P
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... kekeke ... :2funny:
HUNG TU LO <--- a/the HA'MUNG at their best ... :idiot2: ... ::) ... >:D
"Ignorance is bliss." Nuff said ... KEKEKE ... 8)
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... kekeke ... :2funny:
HUNG TU LO <--- a/the HA'MUNG at their best ... :idiot2: ... ::) ... >:D
"Ignorance is bliss." Nuff said ... KEKEKE ... 8)
Words of a defeated man. The dog is belly up.
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How come no one helps Alain when Zeb is attacking him. Instead they take out their phones and videotape it?
This also happened to Annie Kim Phan who was beat mercilessly in San Diego while walking out a night club she inadvertently walked in front of a photo shoot and got into a bloody fight. Her two assailants were convicted of murder and sentenced to 6 years in jail. While other suspects are being looked for who punched her. She was pronounced brain dead and taken off life support.
Why videotape? Is it that more important than trying to help?
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Words of a defeated man. The dog is belly up.
... kekeke ... :2funny:
Words of a dumbfounded HA'Mung. The doofus is bolstering irregularities ... KEKEKE ... >:D
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How come no one helps Alain when Zeb is attacking him. Instead they take out their phones and videotape it?
This also happened to Annie Kim Phan who was beat mercilessly in San Diego while walking out a night club she inadvertently walked in front of a photo shoot and got into a bloody fight. Her two assailants were convicted of murder and sentenced to 6 years in jail. While other suspects are being looked for who punched her. She was pronounced brain dead and taken off life support.
Why videotape? Is it that more important than trying to help?
With this type of case, especially in the hmong community where the public thinks the victim has committed a despicable crime/act they have no intention of helping the victim, and will only think he deserves to be punished.
If it's just an innocent person getting beat up, yes some of them will step in and try to stop it.
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I hear Alain is a former gangster! LOL.. No wonder he wasn't even "scared" of the knife or beating he got. Gangster aren't afraid especially laib laus folks.
He was also a top hmong soccer player back in the old days!
I don't feel bad for either party.
Alain got a learning lesson to not flirt with another married woman whether she is playing you are not. You just don't try to "own" her!
Zeb got his lesson for almost attempted murder.
I hate seeing all these videos of these hmong overseas and hmong american saying bad things to each other. We are all hmong for crying out loud.
Most of us migrated to the states during the gvp era. I am sure if it was easy to come to the states "majority" of the hmong there now will be on the first flight to the states as well. We should not be degrading them and looking down on them as they did not choose the path to stay there. The ones that were from gvp era that are still alive there choose to stay there but the newer generations did not..
it's true what nom phaj said - if your so smart you should have been or done or started something valuable to the hmong community. But of course the hmong in the states when they become too smart they are all for themselves :(
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I hear Alain is a former gangster! LOL.. No wonder he wasn't even "scared" of the knife or beating he got. Gangster aren't afraid especially laib laus folks.
He was also a top hmong soccer player back in the old days!
I don't feel bad for either party.
Alain got a learning lesson to not flirt with another married woman whether she is playing you are not. You just don't try to "own" her!
Zeb got his lesson for almost attempted murder.
I hate seeing all these videos of these hmong overseas and hmong american saying bad things to each other. We are all hmong for crying out loud.
Most of us migrated to the states during the gvp era. I am sure if it was easy to come to the states "majority" of the hmong there now will be on the first flight to the states as well. We should not be degrading them and looking down on them as they did not choose the path to stay there. The ones that were from gvp era that are still alive there choose to stay there but the newer generations did not..
it's true what nom phaj said - if your so smart you should have been or done or started something valuable to the hmong community. But of course the hmong in the states when they become too smart they are all for themselves :(
... kekeke ... :2funny:
Correction! (Especially for all the ha'clueless ha'edumacated HA'Mung ... KEKEKE ... >:D)
US-Hmong immigrated, not migrated (only animals, namely seasonal birds, migrate ... kekeke ... O0). And the overhelming majority were GVP loyalists/supporters whom, if they had stayed behind, would ALL be peresecuted if not executed so their only alternative to survive was to immigrate to the West. And arguably those who stayed behind were the ones (Hmong) who sided with the Vietcong/Pathet Lao to overthrow/defy GVP whether you, or most Hmong, nowadays want to acknowledge that FACT or not. They DID CHOOSE to stay behind for any number of reason -- being traitors/Anti-GVP for any number of reason which need not be mentiond. (This is why and where Hmong got the term "Hmoob Nyablaj" came from -- meaning traitor/enemy more or less, NOT necessarily referring to the Hmong who happens to live in Vietnam.) The "Caub Fab" (Chao Fa), original faction, more or less falls into the traitor/enemy category as well, but it is beyond this discussion/topic. They were definitely Anti-GVP. (And "NO", I am not referring to the Hmong-Chao Fa who were forced to live/survive in the wilderness during, throughout the war, and at present is being "Hunted Like Animals". They are mostly innocent civilians who are wrongfully branded GVP loyalists/supporters by the Pathet Lao regime -- mainly because they hated the communist regime not because they were GVP loyalists/supports wholeheartedly though some were, or may be.)
Nom Phaj <--- :idiot2: , it has no clue what it is talking about, just ranting like a typical ha'clueless HA'Mung from Thailand ... nuff said.
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... kekeke ... :2funny:
Correction! (Especially for all the ha'clueless ha'edumacated HA'Mung ... KEKEKE ... >:D)
US-Hmong immigrated, not migrated (only animals, namely seasonal birds, migrate ... kekeke ... O0). And the overhelming majority were GVP loyalists/supporters whom, if they had stayed behind, would ALL be peresecuted if not executed so their only alternative to survive was to immigrate to the West. And arguably those who stayed behind were the ones (Hmong) who sided with the Vietcong/Pathet Lao to overthrow/defy GVP whether you, or most Hmong, nowadays want to acknowledge that FACT or not. They DID CHOOSE to stay behind for any number of reason -- being traitors/Anti-GVP for any number of reason which need not be mentiond. (This is why and where Hmong got the term "Hmoob Nyablaj" came from -- meaning traitor/enemy more or less, NOT necessarily referring to the Hmong who happens to live in Vietnam.) The "Caub Fab" (Chao Fa), original faction, more or less falls into the traitor/enemy category as well, but it is beyond this discussion/topic. They were definitely Anti-GVP. (And "NO", I am not referring to the Hmong-Chao Fa who were forced to live/survive in the wilderness during, throughout the war, and at present is being "Hunted Like Animals". They are mostly innocent civilians who are wrongfully branded GVP loyalists/supporters by the Pathet Lao regime -- mainly because they hated the communist regime not because they were GVP loyalists/supports wholeheartedly though some were, or may be.)
Nom Phaj <--- :idiot2: , it has no clue what it is talking about, just ranting like a typical ha'clueless HA'Mung from Thailand ... nuff said.
You've said it elequently Chico. O0
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With this type of case, especially in the hmong community where the public thinks the victim has committed a despicable crime/act they have no intention of helping the victim, and will only think he deserves to be punished.
If it's just an innocent person getting beat up, yes some of them will step in and try to stop it.
What happened to, "innocent until proven guilty?" Zeb almost killed him.
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It just saddens me that our fellow Hmong people of both worlds are fighting like this. I hope this doesn't cause us to break apart. Lyn loves her people, she don't want us to become our own enemy.
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Made the local news
http://www.kmph.com/category/170789/video-landing-page?clipId=11448702&autostart=true (http://www.kmph.com/category/170789/video-landing-page?clipId=11448702&autostart=true)
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A question for the Hmong men who enjoy going to Laos to find love and perhaps getting marry to a Hmong lady from over there. If the government takes away your passport and visa and your not allow to fly in airplane back home into the USA will you be scare?
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A question for the Hmong men who enjoy going to Laos to find love and perhaps getting marry to a Hmong lady from over there. If the government takes away your passport and visa and your not allow to fly in airplane back home into the USA will you be scare?
... kekeke ... :2funny:
Any/ALL foreign countries CANNOT legally confiscate a traveler's/tourist's Visa/passport without just probable cause though in Laos there are well documented cases of Hmong On Hmong injustice.
Hint: That is why Embassies and Ambassadors are established throughout the world ... KEKEKE ... O0
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In the tourist-y areas where there are five-star hotels, there are as many Europeans and Americans as the locals, yeah, you're safe. But if you are in non-developed/non-commercial, non-tourist areas, don't kid yourselves in thinking that your "I'm an American" status allows you to be protected by the 4th Amendment (illegal search and seizure) or that because you are an American, they will bend their law system to make sure you go through the American process of law. If you believe that you are safe simply because you are an American, you are an idiot.
And don't think for a second that developed European countries will treat Americans better. It doesn't matter if you're in countries such as Germany, France, or Spain. Unless you're a somebody and you can drop names of important people in their country that you have on speed dial, the typical foot soldier military police doesn't give a hoot. You're no different from the civilian locals. They will hold you, they will try to extort cash from you, they will threaten physical harm, and yeah, it's probably 0.000000000000 00000000000000 01% chance that they will actually do physical harm to you, but then once they're done with you, they just release you and say "go...". Then what will you do? Who will you talk to? The local police captain whom employs these foot military police? You think they are going to crackdown on their own? Who will you report? The military police in Europe, Middle East, and South America do not wear badge numbers. And since they are not PEACE OFFICERS (like our USA city police), they don't have to walkie-talkie in a "10-66" (suspicious person) and 10-26 (arresting subject) to the dispatcher. There will be no trace or evidence that anything actually ever happened to you and even if a local saw this happening to you, they will turn around faster than you can say "help!".
I will say, however, that developed Asian countries/city-states such as S. Korea, Japan, Singapore, and Hong Kong, tend to let Americans get away with stupid stuff simply because they are American tourists. It's partly the culture; Asian countries/government don't want to be seen on the news that they bloody-nosed and manhandled a tourist or conspired in a murder of a tourist because it will look bad upon all of the society and people.
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Zeb Yaj had spoken now, it turns out he lied about his age and about getting rid of the Americans in 1975 as he now claims he was actually born in 1986 (just 29 yrs-old). This is Hmong radio in MN getting in touch with him on a few questions, the radio quality sucks but at least we got some answers from the guy now and why he did what he did to that Alain guy.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MCDflQSXJYA#ws (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MCDflQSXJYA#ws)
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I heard him on the radio and sorry I don't believe him. To me he lied everything about to cover up...
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I dont believe him when I heard him on the radio
1. I dont believe he hit his wife
2.I dont believe that the Hmong lee meet his wife at the store for the very first time
3.I dont believe that his wife gave another lady's phone to the Hmong lee but her own phone number
4.I dont believe that his wife would walk into the hotel and sleep with the Hmong lee guy without him agree with her to do it
5. I dont believe that the hmong lee guy didnt send him and his wife money
the list can go on...and I dont believe him at all..it is lies
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He looks like someone who beats his wife. I think she is staying with him out of fear of reprisal from her relatives or parents. She was supposed to marry the Hmong American but chose Zeb. To be honest, I think Zeb forced her to marry him and run off together like in those HTT movies. Hmong American comes to marry Laos girl, Hmong Lao guy is dating her but has no chance unless he forces her to wed or run off.
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He looks like someone who beats his wife. I think she is staying with him out of fear of reprisal from her relatives or parents. She was supposed to marry the Hmong American but chose Zeb. To be honest, I think Zeb forced her to marry him and run off together like in those HTT movies. Hmong American comes to marry Laos girl, Hmong Lao guy is dating her but has no chance unless he forces her to wed or run off.
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allowing herself to following his direction to sleep with hmong men for sex as he stated in the telephone conference radio and she did it and then allowing him to hit her is stated he did is something she's been trained to do. We don't know if she enjoys doing it for some women they do enjoy doing it and other it is a force.....if it was a force like you said then why is she not coming forward and speaking out and help put him away.......
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it sounds like the way he talks she does have money to runaway or hide it is not like she doesn't
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allowing herself to following his direction to sleep with hmong men for sex as he stated in the telephone conference radio and she did it and then allowing him to hit her is stated he did is something she's been trained to do. We don't know if she enjoys doing it for some women they do enjoy doing it and other it is a force.....if it was a force like you said then why is she not coming forward and speaking out and help put him away.......
That's why I don't care for Zeb's opinion. I want to hear from the wife! You would be able to tell whose the culprit after she speaks. Knowing that she's been with three different men says a lot already. The kid looks like Zeb, and I think she married Zeb because of the kid. Otherwise, she'd be known as a divorcee and even worse no one would want her, maybe Alain who is also a divorcee.
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I think all 3 are crooks for using each others. What a waste of Hmong youtube airing time.
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I don't hear Zeb being apologetic at all about smacking and kicking Alain and for offending Hmong-Americans. He has no remorse at all.
Zeb Yaj had spoken now, it turns out he lied about his age and about getting rid of the Americans in 1975 as he now claims he was actually born in 1986 (just 29 yrs-old). This is Hmong radio in MN getting in touch with him on a few questions, the radio quality sucks but at least we got some answers from the guy now and why he did what he did to that Alain guy.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MCDflQSXJYA#ws (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MCDflQSXJYA#ws)
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This Hmong American man should be prosecuted for child molestation. I wonder how many little girls did he rape on this trip to Laos. All Hmong men that went back to Laos went there for one thing only, sex with little girls. Unfortunately, this dude crossed the line and had sex with someone else wife as well, so this was what he got. He deserved it and more.
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To all Hmong men who love to travel to Laos for sex. Next time, your **** will be cut off.
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A question for the Hmong men who enjoy going to Laos to find love and perhaps getting marry to a Hmong lady from over there. If the government takes away your passport and visa and your not allow to fly in airplane back home into the USA will you be scare?
My wife is from laos, she's 21 years old, I'm 29. Before I go there for the first time and hearing negative stories about laos, I went there willing to die should that happen to me over there. Once I put that thought in my head I wasn't afraid anymore. Turns out, there wasn't really anything to worry about over there accept being over charge for street vendor things that you buy if you act too much like a dumb foreigner. And if you go there peacefully and come peacefully nothing will happened to you.