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Title: White Men Religion
Post by: lifemystery on December 30, 2017, 02:36:11 PM
How many Hmong in here believe in a religion that was created from white men?  Such as Christianity and others that are created from white men.  Why do you believe in a religion that was created from white men?
Title: Re: White Men Religion
Post by: DuMa on December 31, 2017, 11:35:55 AM
So u on the internet created by Hmong people?

Title: Re: White Men Religion
Post by: joot on January 01, 2018, 09:11:39 PM
May you be enlightened now.... Christianity (The Way) as it was called in Jesus' time was actually formed in an Asian continent....
Title: Re: White Men Religion
Post by: lifemystery on January 02, 2018, 03:06:51 PM
Look what is happening to Hmong people who believe in a religion that was created by white; they believe they are religiously white.  Might as well abandon having Hmong kids also and have white kids instead like what that black ass Micheal Jackson did.  ;D
Title: Re: White Men Religion
Post by: DuMa on January 02, 2018, 03:31:03 PM
Look what is happening to Hmong people who believe in a religion that was created by white; they believe they are religiously white.  Might as well abandon having Hmong kids also and have white kids instead like what that black ass Micheal Jackson did.  ;D

Becareful what you say.  Weird shit have happened in history before.  Paul Saul, a roman who goes around to catch Christians and prosecute them ended up becoming a Christian himself. 

If not you, your kids or their kids will become a Christian.  Just in due time. 

Christianity is a universal religion and it should be because no one claiming this universal god for themselves.  Christians from all over the globe are praying to the same god. 

Title: Re: White Men Religion
Post by: lifemystery on January 02, 2018, 04:24:52 PM
Becareful what you say.  Weird shit have happened in history before.  Paul Saul, a roman who goes around to catch Christians and prosecute them ended up becoming a Christian himself. 

If not you, your kids or their kids will become a Christian.  Just in due time. 

Christianity is a universal religion and it should be because no one claiming this universal god for themselves.  Christians from all over the globe are praying to the same god.

Even my 8 year old nephew knows that religion is all about lies and the main purpose is about power and control.  He is a smart boy.  How old are you?
Title: Re: White Men Religion
Post by: DuMa on January 02, 2018, 06:00:20 PM
Even my 8 year old nephew knows that religion is all about lies and the main purpose is about power and control.  He is a smart boy.  How old are you?

Your 8 years old nephew n his generation will have a Christian in due time.  It took generations for the xtian religion to develop.  It will take more generations for heathens to convert.
Title: Re: White Men Religion
Post by: Believe_N_Me on January 27, 2018, 09:21:03 PM
How many Hmong in here believe in a religion that was created from white men?  Such as Christianity and others that are created from white men.  Why do you believe in a religion that was created from white men?

Christianity was not created by white men. The first Christ followers were Mary (Jesus's human mother) and the apostles. The first Gentile church (non-Jew) is believed to be Antioch. However, the believers were not called Christians at the time.
Title: Re: White Men Religion
Post by: TruthAboveKnowledge on February 07, 2018, 02:48:47 AM
Yes, religion is the game about lies, money, power and human control.  But it is not about spirituality.  Jesus was spiritual and he did not like the pharisee religion.  Let me just say that the teachings from Jesus are meant so that we as human beings, if applied correctly can have an aesthetic appreciation for Life.  Same thing for Hmong traditions.  If you told me that a shaman can cure the person's cancer by doing some voodoo ritual and getting some dead ancestor's to help, you better take a hike.

The Old Testament is a gathering of deep thoughts by many different ethnicities from people around that region.  The root of the Bible is in the first five book called the Pentateuch or The Book of Laws.  These books described the history and origin of the Hebrew people and its lineage.  These people are not white, they are middle eastern.  The term middle eastern is vague because they didn't know the Far East 7,000 years ago.  If I'm getting it correctly from the OP (original poster) I am aware what you mean by "white".  European set out on the Crusade because they understood that the land there is filled with gold, silver, spices and goods.  Just look at Egypt and all the vibrant history and gold.  During the Roman times, they dealt in heavy trades with Egypt in Africa.  The origin of Adam and Eve in the Garden of Eden is located in modern day Iraq.  But it may have been sunken into the sea.  This is proof because of how the Bible told EXACTLY where Eden was located by all these major rivers.  So here are simple answers to answer your questions:

Origin of man is more then 7,000 years.  Like I said the Bible only tells us the lineage of the Hebrew speaking people.  They also spoke Aramaic and are familiar with vedic sanskrit.

The Flood and Noah.  The Flood did happen but it was localized.  Noah took all he could.

Abraham is the father of both Hebrew (Israelite) and Muslims.  God's promise to Abraham to make his offsprings as much as the sand is True.

Is God a being and if so was he Jesus:  God is not a being but a state of mind, a spiritual path.  Jesus was a good example.  For all we know, Jesus could be extra-terrestrial material, and the human species could of been from genetic material shot into space from somewhere far far away a long long time ago.  I know humans would shoot human genetic material into space in case an asteroid could possibly kill us all.

It is a sad thing that all things grow will eventually die.  Brace this idea and face it front on by being the best that you can be because this is your MOMENT!  You didn't win the cash lottery but you did win the race to get to the egg race and fertilized the egg to be born.  I say that's was a hell of a race, or divine intervention.  Either way, you won!  Hurray.

The Bible is the only book to lift your spirit.  It wants to give you back your Life, your motivation to want to see a pretty perspective.  If we all see the picture about Life, we can help one another out.  We need nothing else besides GOD.

Did Jesus ever existed in human flesh?  Yes, but he could of been a regular Joe who was intellectually trained and may have been a savant.  Many other figures have been spoken of before also.  Natural law is simple but could work in mysterious ways.  Who knows!
Title: Re: White Men Religion
Post by: w1s3m0n on February 07, 2018, 09:24:16 PM
TAK, dont waste your time.  He's a commie troll.
Title: Re: White Men Religion
Post by: Believe_N_Me on February 15, 2018, 10:50:56 PM
TAK, dont waste your time.  He's a commie troll.

Most Hmong atheists are simply parroting their anti-Christian, white, privileged, man-hating, daddy issues, leftist professors.

If these atheists truly believed that religion was dangerous then they would start with traditional Hmong Shamanism which literally breathes life into the Hmong patriarchy. It is the very reason why the Hmong practice bride price, polygamy, and so on.
Title: Re: White Men Religion
Post by: w1s3m0n on February 15, 2018, 10:53:29 PM
Most Hmong atheists are simply parroting their anti-Christian, white, privileged, man-hating, daddy issues, leftist professors.

If these atheists truly believed that religion was dangerous then they would start with traditional Hmong Shamanism which literally breathes life into the Hmong patriarchy. It is the very reason why the Hmong practice bride price, polygamy, and so on.

Perhaps Sam Harris has a point about the problem of free will.  Because they were Hmong and poor they didn't have the money to attend an expensive private Christian college and went to the 3rd tier universities and was force fed an ideology.  Maybe Sam Harris should have said the problem of free will is the inverse of the problem of predestination .
Title: Re: White Men Religion
Post by: DeadbeatDAD on May 10, 2018, 07:19:02 PM
There is a book written by a hmong person.
I happened to be the only person to own it. Lol.

Look people, dont be so foolish. White men created a religion to unite white people under their own terms. To conquer other groups, it is easier to teach them and have them converted.
Blacks did it and yet still killed. Women did it, but yet treated like trash.
Feel so sorry for my hmongs who just love god so much that often times they wish they were white.. lol

White men already controls half of the humans population. Ask the vatican, they control alot... lol..
Just remember the white mens word "these nuts".

Title: Re: White Men Religion
Post by: YeejKoob13 on May 14, 2018, 11:10:19 AM
Some are born stupid and become Meo. They have no sense of pride, honor, national duty, and manifest destiny. They would rather eat scraps and be satisfied with that. They are also shallow, selfish, and cowardly, only thinking about themselves that’s why they get tricked easily and try to be “saved” by jesus/jehova (but really it’s just a fictional character(s)/doctrines). These are the Meo... We the Hmong (who are not Meo) must remain steadfast so that Hmong live on.
Title: Re: White Men Religion
Post by: YeejKoob13 on May 14, 2018, 11:16:09 AM
There is a book written by a hmong person.
I happened to be the only person to own it. Lol.

Look people, dont be so foolish. White men created a religion to unite white people under their own terms. To conquer other groups, it is easier to teach them and have them converted.
Blacks did it and yet still killed. Women did it, but yet treated like trash.
Feel so sorry for my hmongs who just love god so much that often times they wish they were white.. lol

White men already controls half of the humans population. Ask the vatican, they control alot... lol..
Just remember the white mens word "these nuts".

And when they disagree, because of desiring more political power or sometimes getting less of that, they simply rebel and create their own offshoots, like the protestant reformation and king james version... that should tell people that these religions are man made for political purposes... So some of you Meo better realize this and return to being Hmong.
Title: Re: White Men Religion
Post by: Yengimer on May 14, 2018, 11:43:06 AM
You hmongs can't even get along. That's why you have no country.  So back off! :2funny:

You hmongs are the troublesome because you worship different kinds of devils (ua dab/nyias muaj nyias dab)

You stay in different parts of the world, still get kicked out. You rebels!

 :2funny: :2funny:
Title: Re: White Men Religion
Post by: YeejKoob13 on May 14, 2018, 12:28:32 PM
Heh heh heh, but the Meo worship all sorts of dab yesxus as well. Which is worse. From peoples stories, even dab Yesxus CMA cannot get along with dab yesxus Baptist. One church will not come to support the other. Meo Family members fight with one another, refuse to attend funeral, and may not it even bury one another, if they belong to different yesxus religions.

I have two aunts from the same father but different moms. They live in minnesota. One is a catholic. The other a mormon. One disses the others yesxus saying it is fake, and vice versa. We get a good chuckle every time the story is brought up at family gatherings.

At least with Hmong we dont diss other Hmong’s xwmkab, kevcai, dabqhuas.
Title: Re: White Men Religion
Post by: Yengimer on May 14, 2018, 01:35:41 PM
 :2funny:

Right from the start your assumptions already assumes all people are Christians.
Just because pple called themselves Christians doesn't make them a Christian.

Just caus someone calls themeself a Church of Christ doesn't make it so.

Would a legitimate team of doctors support a brat who claims to be a doctor? It's that simple.  :2funny:
Title: Re: White Men Religion
Post by: Yengimer on May 14, 2018, 02:40:06 PM
Mormonism, Jehovah Witness, and other sect aren't Christians because they deny Christian essential doctrines.
While they may use the same terminology like... "we believe in Jesus too" or "we do believe in God also", or " oh yeah, we believe we go to heaven through Jesus Christ" etc.. they all have heretical views and teachings even the most basic and Christian doctrines.

You guys don't diss  xwmkab, kevcai, dabqhuas because you guys took everything to be "true" without questioning. lol.

At least in Christianity, we have the basis where we can correct, reproof, teach, refute, know what's right from wrong.

You guys dont do any of that becuase there arent a basis to know what is right or what is wrong. You guys follow blindly at everything.
Title: Re: White Men Religion
Post by: YeejKoob13 on May 14, 2018, 08:47:50 PM
1) what denomination do you belong to?

2) apart from jehova witness and mormonism, what other sects are not christians.
Title: Re: White Men Religion
Post by: YeejKoob13 on May 14, 2018, 08:59:24 PM
We Hmong don't even diss one anothers micro beliefs, and that’s a testament to our “brotherhood or getting along”, and yet we still couldn't come up with enough might to build a nation, thus here we are countriless... what do you think will happen when a bunch of Meo believing in different dab yesxus (who wont even help or show up to another Meos funeral) try to nation build?
Title: Re: White Men Religion
Post by: YeejKoob13 on May 14, 2018, 09:04:50 PM
Which one sect is the true christian, or the one following the true god? Which is the “team of doctors”?” And which ones are the brats?
Title: Re: White Men Religion
Post by: Visualmon on May 15, 2018, 02:59:38 AM
Since when Christianity became white men's religion?  Is it because every biblical movie portray Jesus seems always white?   :2funny: :2funny:

Dude, OP must be a POS from his birth. Jesus originate from the middle east. That's because European fabricate the ideas that the God favor mostly White race.  :idiot2:
Title: Re: White Men Religion
Post by: Yengimer on May 15, 2018, 09:52:52 AM
1) what denomination do you belong to?

2) apart from jehova witness and mormonism, what other sects are not christians.

1. I don't belong to a denomination.

2. I would put Seventh Day Adventist together with Momons and Jws.
Title: Re: White Men Religion
Post by: Yengimer on May 15, 2018, 10:47:24 AM
Which one sect is the true christian, or the one following the true god? Which is the “team of doctors”?” And which ones are the brats?

The ones that holds to the essential doctrine of Christianity. Nicene Creed.
Anyone who rejects this is not a Christian.
Title: Re: White Men Religion
Post by: YeejKoob13 on May 15, 2018, 09:33:01 PM
The ones that holds to the essential doctrine of Christianity. Nicene Creed.
Anyone who rejects this is not a Christian.

So are catholics christians?
Title: Re: White Men Religion
Post by: Yengimer on May 16, 2018, 04:19:52 PM
So are catholics christians?

They are.  As long as they hold to the essentials of the faith. Christians agrees with the essentials but we differ from the secondary, and that's okay.
Title: Re: White Men Religion
Post by: YeejKoob13 on May 17, 2018, 06:30:06 PM
They are.  As long as they hold to the essentials of the faith. Christians agrees with the essentials but we differ from the secondary, and that's okay.

And what may the “secondary” difference be?

If “that’s ok”, since they are still true christians, then you would have no problem if I call you a catholic or reference catholic principles and beliefs as that of your own?
Title: Re: White Men Religion
Post by: DeadbeatDAD on May 18, 2018, 01:32:23 PM
Yes, religion is the game about lies, money, power and human control.  But it is not about een spoken of before also.  Natural law is simple but could work in mysterious ways.  Who knows!
You are awoke.. your name implies.. agreed with you...
Title: Re: White Men Religion
Post by: Yengimer on May 18, 2018, 07:41:04 PM
And what may the “secondary” difference be?

If “that’s ok”, since they are still true christians, then you would have no problem if I call you a catholic or reference catholic principles and beliefs as that of your own?

Whatever they may believe, if they disagree on the Trinity or the Divinity of Christ they are not Christians no matter what they may claim.

I don't really go outside of the Bible. I like to study history but I would always go back to the Bible. Catholics use traditions and i think that is one thing where we differ.
Title: Re: White Men Religion
Post by: DeadbeatDAD on May 18, 2018, 11:49:27 PM
Whatever they may believe, if they disagree on the Trinity or the Divinity of Christ they are not Christians no matter what they may claim.

I don't really go outside of the Bible. I like to study history but I would always go back to the Bible. Catholics use traditions and i think that is one thing where we differ.

If you believe in god, christ then you are a christian.. there is no such thing as a true christian..
Believe it or not, there is no true in religion.

Let me ask you a question.
Do you believe and agree with males and females becoming trans and do they have the right to marry one another under god?
Title: Re: White Men Religion
Post by: Yengimer on May 19, 2018, 01:01:40 AM
If you believe in god, christ then you are a christian.. there is no such thing as a true christian..
Believe it or not, there is no true in religion.

Let me ask you a question.
Do you believe and agree with males and females becoming trans and do they have the right to marry one another under god?

Anyone can say they believe on Jesus or God...that doesn't make them a Christian. They're just saying that to make it sound nice to fit in.

A true Christian is someone who is born again and has been regenerated. One who follows Jesus Christ, believe He is their Lord and Savoir, born of a virgin, Son of God, God in the flesh, Trinity, died and rose again the third day and continue abide to His teachings. Basically all the essentials the Bible teach.

Most people just go to church for social reasons only. I say "most" out of my own judgement of what I have seen. I know we shouldn't judge... but in my experience only about 10 percent show real faith - those who really have been born again and regenerated.

If you have not been regenerated, I cannot say your faith is sincere/legit.

To your question. I believe it's wrong and a sin. God made male and female and marriage is given by God to populate. Sure they have the rights to do whatever they want, it's still wrong though. It's wrong in the sight of God and was a capital offense under the Mosaic Law. If we consider such punishment as cruel and unusual, then the problem is that we don't see such sin the way a holy and righteous God does.
Title: Re: White Men Religion
Post by: YeejKoob13 on May 19, 2018, 06:39:10 AM
Whatever they may believe, if they disagree on the Trinity or the Divinity of Christ they are not Christians no matter what they may claim.

I don't really go outside of the Bible. I like to study history but I would always go back to the Bible. Catholics use traditions and i think that is one thing where we differ.

So the pope, the voice of jehova/jesus on earth, is “ok” and acceptable to you in defining what true christians should believe in. And all those catholics, the biggest yesxus denomination, who obey and believe in the popes role are still true christians in your view?
Title: Re: White Men Religion
Post by: dogmai on May 20, 2018, 07:48:36 PM
Anyone can say they believe on Jesus or God...that doesn't make them a Christian. They're just saying that to make it sound nice to fit in.

A true Christian is someone who is born again and has been regenerated. One who follows Jesus Christ, believe He is their Lord and Savoir, born of a virgin, Son of God, God in the flesh, Trinity, died and rose again the third day and continue abide to His teachings. Basically all the essentials the Bible teach.

Most people just go to church for social reasons only. I say "most" out of my own judgement of what I have seen. I know we shouldn't judge... but in my experience only about 10 percent show real faith - those who really have been born again and regenerated.

If you have not been regenerated, I cannot say your faith is sincere/legit.

To your question. I believe it's wrong and a sin. God made male and female and marriage is given by God to populate. Sure they have the rights to do whatever they want, it's still wrong though. It's wrong in the sight of God and was a capital offense under the Mosaic Law. If we consider such punishment as cruel and unusual, then the problem is that we don't see such sin the way a holy and righteous God does.

So you believe that it's ok to own a slave?
Title: Re: White Men Religion
Post by: DeadbeatDAD on May 21, 2018, 01:06:30 AM
Anyone can say they believe on Jesus or God...that doesn't make them a Christian. They're just saying that to make it sound nice to fit in.

A true Christian is someone who is born again and has been regenerated. One who follows Jesus Christ, believe He is their Lord and Savoir, born of a virgin, Son of God, God in the flesh, Trinity, died and rose again the third day and continue abide to His teachings. Basically all the essentials the Bible teach.

Most people just go to church for social reasons only. I say "most" out of my own judgement of what I have seen. I know we shouldn't judge... but in my experience only about 10 percent show real faith - those who really have been born again and regenerated.

If you have not been regenerated, I cannot say your faith is sincere/legit.

To your question. I believe it's wrong and a sin. God made male and female and marriage is given by God to populate. Sure they have the rights to do whatever they want, it's still wrong though. It's wrong in the sight of God and was a capital offense under the Mosaic Law. If we consider such punishment as cruel and unusual, then the problem is that we don't see such sin the way a holy and righteous God does.
My dear yeng..
You know why so many people go to church for social gatherings? Because they have learn that being a christian is not all about being serious and letting life go by..
Enjoy life a bit..
Dont let the extreme take over you or you will be swallow whole, only then you ask god why you are taken so soon..
He will replied, i gave you eyes to see the wonders, ears to hears the sounds of life, hands to feel, you see, you didnt live at all. I introduced you to other races, cultures, but you didnt realized anything at all.. i am not an idol to worship, i am a role model for spiritual guidance...

Thats what buddha and yawg saub would say..

Btw.. if god created man in his image.. is he black or white or brown... if you just follow the bible, dont need to be 100 percent uptight... dont want you to lose yourself..

Also trans are created under god and he has a plan for them.
Who is right to decide that god treats them as lower class?
You all are so clueless that even the simpliest test have failed.
Accepting trans is a test of christians to allow and love as god is all loving, but yet, you so called true christians are very picky and dont act very christian like.
The bible this and bible that.. dude.. do know being gay was common in ancient times...
Also go read american history, americans wins at everything.. lol... winners write the story.. if you get that then you would know the bible was written for hebrews then change to hynotized europeans into a modest system...
Title: Re: White Men Religion
Post by: Yengimer on May 21, 2018, 08:32:08 AM
My dear yeng..
You know why so many people go to church for social gatherings? Because they have learn that being a christian is not all about being serious and letting life go by..
Enjoy life a bit..
Dont let the extreme take over you or you will be swallow whole, only then you ask god why you are taken so soon..
He will replied, i gave you eyes to see the wonders, ears to hears the sounds of life, hands to feel, you see, you didnt live at all. I introduced you to other races, cultures, but you didnt realized anything at all.. i am not an idol to worship, i am a role model for spiritual guidance...

Thats what buddha and yawg saub would say..


That's the behavior of a moderate person. God don't want moderate Christianity; that is just Pew fillers. Fundamental Christianity is where you love the Lord God with all your heart. You take the Bible at its word and you become a fundamental Christian. When you become a moderate, you care less about God and everyone. Soon you'll be an atheist.

Btw.. if god created man in his image.. is he black or white or brown... if you just follow the bible, dont need to be 100 percent uptight... dont want you to lose yourself..

The way to find out the image of God is to ask yourself is What is God like?

Whatever God is like, humans sometimes is just a little bit like some of that.

Life is more than meat, and humans are more than a body. Animals just are in a different class.

Also trans are created under god and he has a plan for them.
Who is right to decide that god treats them as lower class?
You all are so clueless that even the simpliest test have failed.
Accepting trans is a test of christians to allow and love as god is all loving, but yet, you so called true christians are very picky and dont act very christian like.
The bible this and bible that.. dude.. do know being gay was common in ancient times...
Also go read american history, americans wins at everything.. lol... winners write the story.. if you get that then you would know the bible was written for hebrews then change to hynotized europeans into a modest system...

The Bible is clear on this subject when put in its right context.

This is just another addition to the sex generation rise based around equality. I know.
Title: Re: White Men Religion
Post by: DeadbeatDAD on May 21, 2018, 03:21:33 PM


That's the behavior of a moderate person. God don't want moderate Christianity; that is just Pew fillers. Fundamental Christianity is where you love the Lord God with all your heart. You take the Bible at its word and you become a fundamental Christian. When you become a moderate, you care less about God and everyone. Soon you'll be an atheist.

The way to find out the image of God is to ask yourself is What is God like?

Whatever God is like, humans sometimes is just a little bit like some of that.

Life is more than meat, and humans are more than a body. Animals just are in a different class.

The Bible is clear on this subject when put in its right context.

This is just another addition to the sex generation rise based around equality. I know.

Then you must speak for them, the ones without a voice, and be humbled to those around you.. speak love instead of bigotry..
With yojr knowledge comes great respsonsibilty ...hehe
Title: Re: White Men Religion
Post by: Yengimer on May 22, 2018, 10:48:51 AM
So many people these days are careless. Watching too much hip hop/trap videos on Youtube.

So many people think they're savage. Them thots and niggas. They are lost. Better repent now when there is still time.

Your shitty bf/gf isn't an excuse to be a shitty person.
Title: Re: White Men Religion
Post by: Believe_N_Me on May 30, 2018, 09:56:57 PM
Perhaps Sam Harris has a point about the problem of free will.  Because they were Hmong and poor they didn't have the money to attend an expensive private Christian college and went to the 3rd tier universities and was force fed an ideology.  Maybe Sam Harris should have said the problem of free will is the inverse of the problem of predestination .

Christian colleges remain private so they can be free from secular control.
Title: Re: White Men Religion
Post by: Believe_N_Me on May 30, 2018, 10:00:02 PM
We Hmong don't even diss one anothers micro beliefs, and that’s a testament to our “brotherhood or getting along”, and yet we still couldn't come up with enough might to build a nation, thus here we are countriless... what do you think will happen when a bunch of Meo believing in different dab yesxus (who wont even help or show up to another Meos funeral) try to nation build?

Well that never stopped the European nations did it? Having different denominations actually isn't a problem at all when it comes to nation building. The reason divisions still exist among Hmong Christians is because the Hmong part still exists in them.
Title: Re: White Men Religion
Post by: Believe_N_Me on May 30, 2018, 10:12:54 PM
So you believe that it's ok to own a slave?

Know your history. Slavery existed long before Jesus. The practice was initiated by pagans. Any early Israelite who owned slaves would've been a product of the culture of the time, which was heavily paganism. The slavery that was brought to America already existed. Slave owners were simply bringing their old practices into the new country. Some slave owners, like Thomas Jefferson, inherited their slaves and it was actually against the law to free slaves at the time. Slaves would've been better off under a benign master than to be set free since freedom didn't really exist for them. Unless a slave thought he would rather die than remain a slave.

America's Judeo-Christian culture is actually what prompted the abolishment of slavery.

You are very wrong if you think countries that existed before America were better.

The problem with you Leftists is that you're too entitled. All those so-called "freedoms" you want can only exist under a Judeo-Christian culture. For example, homosexuality always existed but under a non-Judeo-Christian culture you would be stoned. Only the Judeo-Christian culture shows leniency and tolerance. You might not like Judeo-Christianity calling your act a sin but better that then to be stoned to death.

If Mary Magdalene was living under any other culture, she would've already been stoned to death. 

The only people who were being stoned and persecuted were CHRISTIANS (Christ followers).
Title: Re: White Men Religion
Post by: Believe_N_Me on May 30, 2018, 10:38:26 PM
If you believe in god, christ then you are a christian.. there is no such thing as a true christian..
Believe it or not, there is no true in religion.

Let me ask you a question.
Do you believe and agree with males and females becoming trans and do they have the right to marry one another under god?

Transgenders don't "become" trans.

They can do whatever they want but it is blasphemous to do it in the name of God and then to cause others to sin by forcing them to participate.
Title: Re: White Men Religion
Post by: Believe_N_Me on May 30, 2018, 10:49:08 PM
God created all and He loves all. But if you think you can live your sin and still enter the Kingdom of Heaven then you are wrong.

There is nothing in the Bible that supports same-sex marriage. Every relationship bound by God that is mentioned in the Bible is one male and one female.

Does this mean secular people shouldn't enjoy their homosexuality? Who cares, but don't force others to participate through legal punishment.

It doesn't matter if you are born gay or straight. If we are Christians, we are instructed to uphold and practice God's design on marriage. This doesn't prevent gays from marriage, it just doesn't accept gays in same-sex coupling. Y'all acting like a gay person can't marry a person of the opposite sex.  ::) Marriage is suppose to be MORE than sexual attraction. Nowhere in the Bible does it ever define LOVE as a feeling of sexual attraction.

Furthermore, having homosexual thoughts is as sinful as having heterosexual thoughts (especially outside of marriage). Both are feelings of lust. Straight people are also commanded to rid themselves of lust.

Title: Re: White Men Religion
Post by: YeejKoob13 on May 30, 2018, 11:32:44 PM
Well that never stopped the European nations did it? Having different denominations actually isn't a problem at all when it comes to nation building. The reason divisions still exist among Hmong Christians is because the Hmong part still exists in them.

Give an example of a european people who had various conflicting christian denominations and was able to create a state for themselves? Go into a tad details.
Title: Re: White Men Religion
Post by: Believe_N_Me on May 30, 2018, 11:39:34 PM
Give an example of a european people who had various conflicting christian denominations and was able to create a state for themselves? Go into a tad details.

Um...duh...The Reformation.
Title: Re: White Men Religion
Post by: YeejKoob13 on May 30, 2018, 11:50:55 PM
Um...duh...The Reformation.

And what about the reformation?

To my knowledge all the european states existing today pretty much already existed then during the reformation. None of them (none that i can think of at the top of my head) had to create a new state (and this is what the various conflicting Meo christian denominations have to do; come together, gather strength, go conquer enemies and create a brand new state). After several generations of war the roman catholics just had to accept that there will be some protestants living within their already existing nation, country, state.
Title: Re: White Men Religion
Post by: YeejKoob13 on May 31, 2018, 12:08:11 AM
Don't know why I bothered logging on to Pebhmong. Too many uneducated Hmong who don't know sh.it what they are talking about and depend on me to educate them first.

How are we supposed to have any insightful convos on PH when many of you have not even done the reading? Now I know what Literature teachers feel like when the class shows up unprepared to discuss the assigned reading.

I'm out.

Yah, throw a weak punch and run before the returning fire gets you. Easily seen tactic.
Title: Re: White Men Religion
Post by: dogmai on June 04, 2018, 11:45:57 AM
Know your history. Slavery existed long before Jesus. The practice was initiated by pagans. Any early Israelite who owned slaves would've been a product of the culture of the time, which was heavily paganism. The slavery that was brought to America already existed. Slave owners were simply bringing their old practices into the new country. Some slave owners, like Thomas Jefferson, inherited their slaves and it was actually against the law to free slaves at the time. Slaves would've been better off under a benign master than to be set free since freedom didn't really exist for them. Unless a slave thought he would rather die than remain a slave.

America's Judeo-Christian culture is actually what prompted the abolishment of slavery.

You are very wrong if you think countries that existed before America were better.

The problem with you Leftists is that you're too entitled. All those so-called "freedoms" you want can only exist under a Judeo-Christian culture. For example, homosexuality always existed but under a non-Judeo-Christian culture you would be stoned. Only the Judeo-Christian culture shows leniency and tolerance. You might not like Judeo-Christianity calling your act a sin but better that then to be stoned to death.

If Mary Magdalene was living under any other culture, she would've already been stoned to death. 

The only people who were being stoned and persecuted were CHRISTIANS (Christ followers).

It's more like, know your god. For his law was the one that said it is ok for Israelites to own foreigners as slaves. Since you know so much about history, can you tell what kind of slaves did Americans owned back then?