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Life & Living => Money & Investment => Topic started by: hmgROCK on January 14, 2019, 02:27:04 PM
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last week, i decided to deposit about $1,500
and use that for day trading purpose so i can posted it on pebhmong a week later
and show you guys how I daytrade
i made about $55 in a week
this ain't alot, because im using a small capital
I trade SCHD (etf dividend with good companies)
FYI, I did purchase $33 of SWYMX (stupid me)
as you can see, I BUY LOW and SELL HIGH
i'm usually in and out, and restart the next day
(https://i.imgur.com/S4vxFzi.jpg)
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stock they move up and down through the day
if you can catch that low during the day and sell it back at the top
you make like 0.2-0.7%
take that and times it by 20 days
and you have some good percentage for the month
SCHD on schwab.com has no commission (Free trading)
but it does for that expense ratio of 2 cent depending on how long you kept it
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want you guys to take a look at jan 10.
i bought it at 47.86 and sold it at $48.16
later that day it drop back so i bought it at $48.11 and sold at $48.22
stock, they move up and down through out the whole day
BUY LOW, SELL HIGH
lol
that's pretty much it
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Meh, why do all that work when you can just win the lotto and be a big "fish" now since you're "the hmong Nostradamus and is always right"? ???
What's next? Claim "sports only" again?? ;D
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WTF
why this dude always coming in here picking fight with me
that's all you, putting your own words in your own mouth
I NEVER SAY ANYTHING ABOUT LOTTERY
:2funny: :2funny: :2funny: :2funny:
here i am
trying to teach/get people interested in investing like the white man
go ahead
LOL SHOW US HOW YOU WIN LOTTERY SINCE YOU ARE AN EXPERTER
haha
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I don't (this is me)
-trade bitcoin/crypto
-pennystock
-sometimes even single stock
too volatile for me
moves too fast for me to keep track
i like ETF trading more
but to you, find your style and play
WHATEVER YOU DO
don't buy crypto like that dude above me suggest in other posted
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LMAO
check out this dude on reddit
bough PCG
company that started all those fire in california
dude is down big time
company file for bankrupty protection
those share might be worth zero and wipe out
that's why i don't recommend yall buy single stock
this dude going all in one Facebook and PCG
that's some big testicle
https://www.reddit.com/r/wallstreetbets/comments/afsgte/bought_5000_shares_of_pge_at_177_please_help_me/ (https://www.reddit.com/r/wallstreetbets/comments/afsgte/bought_5000_shares_of_pge_at_177_please_help_me/)
https://imgur.com/a/qNU6qC6 (https://imgur.com/a/qNU6qC6)
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WTF
why this dude always coming in here picking fight with me
Nope, not "picking fight" but rather wondering since you did in fact claimed to be "the hmong Nostradamus and is always right"...If you want me to to stop wondering, then admit to you are wrong with your claim, learn from it and move forward...
that's all you, putting your own words in your own mouth
I NEVER SAY ANYTHING ABOUT LOTTERY
Yes you have and I already proved your "sports only" claim wrong ...not that you were doing any good when it comes to sports either...remem ber Go "buccaneers", "falcons", "Uraguay", etc.... ;D ;D ;D
But if you chose to back pedal even when you are proven wrong, it'll just make you look worst in the eyes of others as they've also seen the evidence..whic h means more entertainment for me... ;D O0
here i am
trying to teach/get people interested in investing like the white man[
Again, why do all that work just to be a "small fish" when you can just when the lotto now and be a big fish since you're "the hmong Nostradamus and is always right"...?? ???
go ahead
LOL SHOW US HOW YOU WIN LOTTERY SINCE YOU ARE AN EXPERTER
haha
I wasn't the one that claimed, "I'm the hmong Nostradamus and is always right"... ::)
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Wtf are you smoking
Stop that mary jane even though it’s legal
Anyways....
I just doing simple trade and sell
You can do options and leverage for fast gain
Buts too hardcore
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Wtf are you smoking
Stop that mary jane even though it’s legal
Anyways....
I just doing simple trade and sell
You can do options and leverage for fast gain
Buts too hardcore
Nothing, just wondering why go through all that work just to be a "small fish" and/or wait "30 years" and hope to be a big fish along with getting called out for giving "bad investment advice" when you can just win the lotto now since you're "the hmong Nostradamus and is always right"...?? ???
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You interested in trading stock man?
I see you always lurking around in my thread
Investing is long and slow and boring
30-40 years +++
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I will do some more day trading once the government shutdown end
Orange man in office is making me nervous
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You interested in trading stock man?
I see you always lurking around in my thread
Investing is long and slow and boring
30-40 years +++
Depends but I'm more interested in knowing why one would do all that work just to be a "small fish" when one can just easily win the lotto and be a big fish now since one is "the hmong Nostradamus and is always right"? ???
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Depends but I'm more interested in knowing why one would do all that work just to be a "small fish" when one can just easily win the lotto and be a big fish now since one is "the hmong Nostradamus and is always right"? ???
that's all you bro...
i never say anything about picking lottery ticket
need to stop putting words in my mouth
i only say that mega million is at $1.5 billion
and make sure you buy your ticket
LMAO too funny
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that's all you bro...
i never say anything about picking lottery ticket
Already proved you wrong on that when you ignorantly claimed: "sports only"...
Does this line ring a bell? "I wish it would whisper the numbers into my ears"..
Would you like to post that "Nostradamus lottery" post of yours again?? ???
need to stop putting words in my mouth
You're the one that claimed you're "the hmong Nostradamus and is always right", not me...
i only say that mega million is at $1.5 billion
and make sure you buy your ticket
LMAO too funny
By not being able to match a single number, it really show how much of a fraud you are..."LMAO too funny"... ;D ;D ;D
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No more day trading for me. Takes too much time to figure out when to buy and sell. Most of the time, I came out even only. It's a full-time job to day trade, and I make more just working.
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H,
Bro, you did not day trade. You traded the lowest risk ever. A day trader looks for catalyst to move the price point positively or negatively and act accordingly. They may do technical analysis looking at resistance, support, MACD, RSI, osccilator, etc... You didn't day trade...You simply picked something low risk knowing it would go up because the market is recovery from the December asswhooping. Picking SPY could have netted you the same.
No more day trading for me. Takes too much time to figure out when to buy and sell. Most of the time, I came out even only. It's a full-time job to day trade, and I make more just working.
Very wise...lots of work to trade.
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H,
Bro, you did not day trade. You traded the lowest risk ever. A day trader looks for catalyst to move the price point positively or negatively and act accordingly. They may do technical analysis looking at resistance, support, MACD, RSI, osccilator, etc... You didn't day trade...You simply picked something low risk knowing it would go up because the market is recovery from the December asswhooping. Picking SPY could have netted you the same.
Very wise...lots of work to trade.
I’m only using $1500 capital just for the sake of using example
There’s not much you can really do with that small amount of capital
Im just doing a quick swing trade daily examples to post on PH
Catch the low of the day, ride to the high
Many styles of trading
You can do chart, table, earning, swing, reacting, shorting, etc...
Whatever works for you
Just gotta win at the end
Don’t hate
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Don’t care what you trade
Commodity, gold, silver, Facebook, amazon, SPY, Growth MF, ETF, options, bitcoin etc...
Don’t matter your style
Just gotta win
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I’m only using $1500 capital just for the sake of using example
There’s not much you can really do with that small amount of capital ...
...Don’t hate
Caught! ;D
...Just gotta win
Why go through all that just to be a "small fish" when you can just "win" the lotto and be a big fish now then since you're the "hmong Nostradamus and is always right"?? ???
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Caught! ;D
Why go through all that just to be a "small fish" when you can just "win" the lotto and be a big fish now then since you're the "hmong Nostradamus and is always right"?? ???
lol
i hlub it!!!!!
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H,
Bro, you did not day trade. You traded the lowest risk ever. A day trader looks for catalyst to move the price point positively or negatively and act accordingly. They may do technical analysis looking at resistance, support, MACD, RSI, osccilator, etc... You didn't day trade...You simply picked something low risk knowing it would go up because the market is recovery from the December asswhooping. Picking SPY could have netted you the same.
Very wise...lots of work to trade.
hey man
since you don't like my ticker SCHD
i decided to do SCHK for you
i only trade ETF
you can trade whatever float your boat
plus i don't get charge any commission on these free ETF
i got in at 26.07
and out at 26.11
nice quick change for the day
im just trying to get my 0.10-0.5% of the day
(https://i.imgur.com/JRhzydF.jpg)
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Bro is that even worth it? The transaction fees alone would kill me if I traded like that.
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Bro is that even worth it? The transaction fees alone would kill me if I traded like that.
there's no transaction fee, commission, trading fee, etc...
im doing this on schwab.com
you gotta have an account with them otherwise, you might get charge a fee
they got those "fee free" ETF
the only thing you pay is the EXPENSE RATION within the ETF itself
as you can see its only like 2 cent
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different brokerage have different stuff to offer
so just read
some might be commission free
some might not
you can also try doing it on ROBINHOOD
they got zero trading fee
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Bro is that even worth it? The transaction fees alone would kill me if I traded like that.
check out ROBINHOOD
it's is legit
got a couple of people who are on it and making good money
all commission free/no trading fee
https://robinhood.com/
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check out ROBINHOOD
it's is legit
got a couple of people who are on it and making good money
all commission free/no trading fee
https://robinhood.com/
Can you tap into the bigger markets or is it limited to penny stocks.. just asking
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Can you tap into the bigger markets or is it limited to penny stocks.. just asking
robinhood is just a non commission brokerage
meaning they don't charge you commission/trading fee
For example: if you buy one stock of APPLE at ETRADE
$150 (1 stock of apple) + $6.95 (commission/trading fee)= for a total of $156.96
at Robinhoood it just $150
you can buy a lot of stuff at robinhood
penny, single stock, etf, option, too many to name
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robinhood is just a non commission brokerage
meaning they don't charge you commission/trading fee
For example: if you buy one stock of APPLE at ETRADE
$150 (1 stock of apple) + $6.95 (commission/trading fee)= for a total of $156.96
at Robinhoood it just $150
I need Robinhood. Lost about 50 bucks on commission fees with Etrade..
Are you on Robinhood.?
you can buy a lot of stuff at robinhood
penny, single stock, etf, option, too many to name
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Last I checked, Robinhood is played on an app so through your phone.
Good for low player's day trader. Now if you trade big money, $6 commission is nothing to them.
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Last I checked, Robinhood is played on an app so through your phone.
Good for low player's day trader. Now if you trade big money, $6 commission is nothing to them.
$6 add up fast, man
thats like per trade too
and if you trade alot throughout the day
that's like $200-500 alone in commission only
that why robinhood is soo good
also they are trying to do a 3% saving account
that is probably the highest, ive seen soo far
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I used to use Robinhood 2 years ago when I was more into frequent trading - primarily trading oil and biotech stocks. But funds took too long to settle and no margin trading, so when you're out of money, you're done.
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I used to use Robinhood 2 years ago when I was more into frequent trading - primarily trading oil and biotech stocks. But funds took too long to settle and no margin trading, so when you're out of money, you're done.
robinhood is trying to offer their customer a 3% interest saving/checking account
that is pretty high
highest, ive seen
if they can get it FDIC insured, or some kinda of insured
i will definitely switch bank
nice fixed income account
https://www.investmentnews.com/article/20181213/FREE/181219974/robinhood-announces-checking-and-savings-with-3-percent-interest-rate (https://www.investmentnews.com/article/20181213/FREE/181219974/robinhood-announces-checking-and-savings-with-3-percent-interest-rate)
The new offering from the Menlo Park, California-based startup is called Robinhood Checking & Savings, and promises a 3% interest rate, a sky-high payout in today's low-yield environment. Robinhood is pitching the service as akin to a checking or savings account, though there are some key differences in how the product was created — including how it's insured.
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I traded two stocks today because we had a snow day. Normally I would not day trade.
I enter NVDA at $133 in AM and decided it wasn't for me because the direction was not going right...so I sold at $134. I made $100. Had I held, I would have made $400 because NVDA went up to $137 today. I was wrong, but it's OK...I made a profit.
I entered FIT at $6 and still holding. I'm up like $200.
I only trade 10-20% of my day trade portfolio at a time. Today was a snow day so I did some AM trades.
A stock I'm thinking about getting into is ILMN. I considered entering at $270 but the stock is approaching the 50/200 sma (death cross) so I wasn't sure if people would panic sell down into $250.. Historical charts show the death cross has no bearing on the stock price. BUT, psychology may and so I didn't want to gamble. Right now the stock is up to $274...Maybe I missed the entry point but PATIENCE is key.
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What I didn't do was buy some AMD...I was concerned about the tariffs and didn't want to be in a bad situation. Those that took the risk, made like 35% when AMD dropped to $17 and bounced back today at $22. That's 35% in a month on AMD!
The fear was tariffs/trade war would soften demand in China like what APPL and NVDA have been reporting.
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Everything is up today
Nvda, amd, aapl, etc
Sadly I didn’t not make any move today
I was hoping a weak quarter result with the Oct-Dec thing
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Yup everything was up so whatever you bought this AM, you would have profited.
But I'm done with daydrading, so doesn't matter to me.
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Yup everything was up so whatever you bought this AM, you would have profited.
But I'm done with daydrading, so doesn't matter to me.
That’s good man
Just go all into the S&P 500
You will do fine
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First rule of day trading...if it goes the other way...just sell...don't hold...be impatient with losers and be patient with winners.
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First rule of day trading...if it goes the other way...just sell...don't hold...be impatient with losers and be patient with winners.
warren buffett
these super rich old white folks
they just buy and hold good companies till FOREVER
they never sell
since we are not super rich like them
we just dollar cost average in every paycheck
should do fine
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Buffet is not a passive investor.
warren buffett
these super rich old white folks
they just buy and hold good companies till FOREVER
they never sell
since we are not super rich like them
we just dollar cost average in every paycheck
should do fine
(https://specials-images.forbesimg.com/imageserve/5babb7f1a7ea4342a948b79a/416x416.jpg?background=000000&cropX1=674&cropX2=3174&cropY1=1695&cropY2=4196)
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swing trading NXPI today until next week earning.
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swing trading NXPI today until next week earning.
them chips been taking a beating lately
NVDA got a good beating too if you are interested
these are wayy too risky for me
i will pass
just stick to my ETF
hope it works out for you
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It's a green day.
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It's a green day.
i hate that trump guy
but man
he making me rich
his other rich friend is pumping this market
they don't want it to fail
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got in at $SCHB at 65.37
left it in for two day, was feeling good
got out at 65.84
nice easy $10.69 return
think, imma sit out the rest of this February
hate February
i get back in march
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them chips been taking a beating lately
NVDA got a good beating too if you are interested
these are wayy too risky for me
i will pass
just stick to my ETF
hope it works out for you
NXPI netted a very nice gain in my trade. I did a technical analysis and comparative analysis. The entire semiconductor space is recovery...
I did swing trade NVDA again and did pretty well...Had I just held for now, it would have been more.
I hahaed out of SNAP and lost the 25% run.
I'm currently in PSX, TWTR, AXON, VOD, ILMN. I'm thinking about others too. I'm swing trading on earnings because the entire market is up and up.
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NXPI netted a very nice gain in my trade. I did a technical analysis and comparative analysis. The entire semiconductor space is recovery...
I did swing trade NVDA again and did pretty well...Had I just held for now, it would have been more.
I hahaed out of SNAP and lost the 25% run.
I'm currently in PSX, TWTR, AXON, VOD, ILMN. I'm thinking about others too. I'm swing trading on earnings because the entire market is up and up.
Just share a couple with you
Don’t see you put these down yet
EA
ATVI
these two look good for a swing trade
Videogame stock, NFL starwar, call of duty, Warcraft
Play caution
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Last week, I looked at EA, ATVI, GLUU, and ZNGA to compare quickly because they were reporting this week. I passed on all of them. I heard through social media ATVI was screwing all their programmers because of cost. I passed on the whole gaming industry because there are too much FREEMIUM and FREE games like FORTNITE, DOTA and LOL disrupting their industry. The industry has to figure out how to engage the customer and force them to subscribe or buy more games.
Just share a couple with you
Don’t see you put these down yet
EA
ATVI
these two look good for a swing trade
Videogame stock, NFL starwar, call of duty, Warcraft
Play caution
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EA - down 13%
ZNGA - down 1%
ATVI - down 10%
GLUU - down 10%
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If anyone is reading this crap, I DO NOT HOLD LONG TERM...1 WEEK MAX. DON'T INVEST IN WHAT I SAY. Do you own due diligence because I'm looking at short-term industry trends only.
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I played SNAP before. Made a nice $2700.
(https://img.photobucket.com/albums/v435/mikeydsm/snapstock_zps9ufvyuky.jpg)
NXPI netted a very nice gain in my trade. I did a technical analysis and comparative analysis. The entire semiconductor space is recovery...
I did swing trade NVDA again and did pretty well...Had I just held for now, it would have been more.
I hahaed out of SNAP and lost the 25% run.
I'm currently in PSX, TWTR, AXON, VOD, ILMN. I'm thinking about others too. I'm swing trading on earnings because the entire market is up and up.
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I played SNAP before. Made a nice $2700.
(https://img.photobucket.com/albums/v435/mikeydsm/snapstock_zps9ufvyuky.jpg)
Lol
Damn
You crazy
Got some big balls
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Bro I only play big. Can't stand nickels and dimes.
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If anyone is reading this crap, I DO NOT HOLD LONG TERM...1 WEEK MAX. DON'T INVEST IN WHAT I SAY. Do you own due diligence because I'm looking at short-term industry trends only.
I trade mainly ETF
It’s pretty low risk
Pretty much just buy low and sell high
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Bro I only play big. Can't stand nickels and dimes.
Naw
I won’t go $20k on a single stock
$1-3k max
You need to read up on risk management
You don’t show all your marbles
Im just trying to get my 0.2% to 0.4%of the day
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Naw
I won’t go $20k on a single stock
$1-3k max
You need to read up on risk management
You don’t show all your marbles
I know what you mean but that year I had a bunch of money to play with.
I've lost a few grand before going in big on a few stocks that tanked.
But now I'm doing more long term holds.
Another example of all in for me. Made a nice $6000 profit.
(https://img.photobucket.com/albums/v435/mikeydsm/netflix_zpsp076kwrv.jpg)
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The easy money years of 2017...
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I'm going to buy NVDA tomorrow because the buy signals are in... :) We might see a 10-15% pop on ER next week.
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Wish me luck! I got TWTR and they are reporting in the AM... :) Up right now...but that could get blasted if ER is bad.
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The industry I think are going to report well: gas, semiconductors, and social media.
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Lol
Damn
Yall are YOLO hard
Should really look into ETF
I dont like semiconductor
I think they are already at atom level
Not sure how small they can go
Not a scientist
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The easy money years of 2017...
You know it brother! Still have my AAPL, FB, GOOGL from that year, holding long. Wish I kept my AMZN, NFLX and TSLA from that year.
I was all in on F/A/N/G.
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Lol
Damn
Yall are YOLO hard
Should really look into ETF
I dont like semiconductor
I think they are already at atom level
Not sure how small they can go
Not a scientist
I already have a bunch of EFT.
Those were just play money.
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You are right...In my 401k and IRA, I barely look at it...it's all funds...I'm playing the long game. In my trading account, it's for fun. Trading an ETF is like watching paint dry? :sleepy1: :sleepy1: :sleepy1:
Lol
Damn
Yall are YOLO hard
Should really look into ETF
I dont like semiconductor
I think they are already at atom level
Not sure how small they can go
Not a scientist
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You know it brother! Still have my AAPL, FB, GOOGL from that year, holding long. Wish I kept my AMZN, NFLX and TSLA from that year.
I was all in on F/A/N/G.
2019 might be like 2017!!! ;D Fed is not raising rate. Trade war is pretty much done. DOW going to 30k!!!
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Adding GOOS to my list! Thinking about ARNC and maybe IMGN...
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2019 might be like 2017!!! ;D Fed is not raising rate. Trade war is pretty much done. DOW going to 30k!!!
I hope that's true man! Would love to get backup up there.
I'm too busy this year to swing trade, but good luck to you!
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2019 might be like 2017!!! ;D Fed is not raising rate. Trade war is pretty much done. DOW going to 30k!!!
Man
Thats some hopeful stuff
But
Im thinking the opposite
Trump and his crook being arrested
These political turmoil will cause the market to crash
GOP vs DEmocrate
Think civil war like chao
You will have them trump supporters out in the street
With their gun rioting
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Here's another stock...
CNTTF is filing for listing on NYSE. Their sales statement is similar to CRON but their market cap is a few times smaller. Once listed on NYSE the institutions can buy. This one might have some violent upward movement.
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my strategy is low risk ETF
for 0.2% to 0.5% daily gain
it adds up quick, man
(https://i.imgur.com/sFwD3iA.jpg)
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Here's another stock...
CNTTF is filing for listing on NYSE. Their sales statement is similar to CRON but their market cap is a few times smaller. Once listed on NYSE the institutions can buy. This one might have some violent upward movement.
i don't do weed, man
not a drug guy
so for that reason
im out
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Wish me luck! I got TWTR and they are reporting in the AM... :) Up right now...but that could get blasted if ER is bad.
damn
not looking good for you brother
TWTR at $31 premarket
see how it plays out when the market open
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Damn
Twitter is taking a beating
I hope you put a stop loss
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Bro TWTR! :-[
Hope it goes back over $34.
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Meanwhile, my GOOGL is taking a hard beating :'(
Time to stock up!
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Meanwhile, my GOOGL is taking a hard beating :'(
Time to stock up!
might want to hold up
February is not a good investing month
valentine=red=bearish
lol jk
February just seem to be a terrible month in general from past experience
I would hold out till March for some greens
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That's true. Feb is red month, all that spending on spouse, girls, etc... gonna spend on acquiring more stocks. People sell, I buy. :D
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TWTR did great. They grew revenue by 24%, hit margins, hit expectations, but daily average user (DAU) is down, but mDAU is up (the users they can make $$ on and not the bots). The MM is punishing TWTR for changing the metric.
I have powder to average down but given it's 10% only...I'm not going to. Let's hope it swings back to $34+++ once the market digests the mDAU freakout.
my goos and imgu are up...as long as they stay up...it'll soften half the blow on the TWTR lost.
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might want to hold up
February is not a good investing month
valentine=red=bearish
lol jk
February just seem to be a terrible month in general from past experience
I would hold out till March for some greens
It's red because people spike January and they sell off in February and wait for new year signals in March earnings. As long as Donald do his job and don't wreck the tariffs...Marc h will be good.
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TWTR did great. They grew revenue by 24%, hit margins, hit expectations, but daily average user (DAU) is down, but mDAU is up (the users they can make $$ on and not the bots). The MM is punishing TWTR for changing the metric.
I have powder to average down but given it's 10% only...I'm not going to. Let's hope it swings back to $34+++ once the market digests the mDAU freakout.
my goos and imgu are up...as long as they stay up...it'll soften half the blow on the TWTR lost.
Do you use Twitter??
To me, it is dumb AF
Maybe if you are a famous person
Also the CEO came out and support crypto
For that reason, i am out
I can’t be dealing with dumb CEO
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It's red because people spike January and they sell off in February and wait for new year signals in March earnings. As long as Donald do his job and don't wreck the tariffs...Marc h will be good.
I think China is just going sit this administration out
And deal with the new president in 2020
There will be no deal by march 1
Trump has a ego
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TWTR did great. They grew revenue by 24%, hit margins, hit expectations, but daily average user (DAU) is down, but mDAU is up (the users they can make $$ on and not the bots). The MM is punishing TWTR for changing the metric.
I have powder to average down but given it's 10% only...I'm not going to. Let's hope it swings back to $34+++ once the market digests the mDAU freakout.
my goos and imgu are up...as long as they stay up...it'll soften half the blow on the TWTR lost.
Man
You are trading with emotions
Lol
How come you don’t put a stop loss?
Need to cut your loss fast
Hopefully you will recover
Good luck to you
I did not play Twitter
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I think TWTR is down because they lost too many users. Even SNAP has more users than TWTR now.
And SNAP was at $27, now $7. But good luck, hope it works out.
I think they could still make a run though but it probably be at the next earnings report.
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got in at $64.97
and out at $65.08
just collecting nickles and dimes, yo
don't get greedy
O0 O0 O0
(https://i.imgur.com/ahUJ51Z.jpg)
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I think TWTR is down because they lost too many users. Even SNAP has more users than TWTR now.
And SNAP was at $27, now $7. But good luck, hope it works out.
I think they could still make a run though but it probably be at the next earnings report.
TWTR is down again
everything is VALENTINE RED today
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got in at $64.97
and out at $65.08
just collecting nickles and dimes, yo
don't get greedy
bro how much time you use to buy and sell and profit $2.63?
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bro how much time you use to buy and sell and profit $2.63?
like 3-5 minutes
don't you have a smartphone?
people play with their phone all day
or you can just do what i do
just glance at it every 30 minutes-1 hour
i'm only using/playing with $1,500 on this thread
just to give an example
because, i see too many hmong trader and newbie going for those 5-10% swing (heart attack)
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(https://i.imgur.com/ahUJ51Z.jpg)
1. woke up today, glance at my phone, saw everything was red
2. glance again at it an hour later, going down still
3. glance at it again, still not seeing what i want to see
4. glance at it 1pm ish, saw the sign and mid day pump i was looking for
quickly make a trade on my phone
5. glance at it an hour later and sold around 2 PM
probably took me 3-5 minutes just glancing at my phone
just collecting dimes and nickel
im working with small capital
just to show, yall my style
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(https://i.imgur.com/ahUJ51Z.jpg)
1. woke up today, glance at my phone, saw everything was red
2. glance again at it an hour later, going down still
3. glance at it again, still not seeing what i want to see
4. glance at it 1pm ish, saw the sign and mid day pump i was looking for
quickly make a trade on my phone
5. glance at it an hour later and sold around 2 PM
probably took me 3-5 minutes just glancing at my phone
just collecting dimes and nickel
im working with small capital
just to show, yall my style
bro you glancing once in a while but your mind is in it 24/7
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like 3-5 minutes
don't you have a smartphone?
people play with their phone all day
or you can just do what i do
just glance at it every 30 minutes-1 hour
5 minutes x 48 (30 mins) per 24 hour day = 240 minutes
Man what a waste... I bet buying the winning lotto numbers take much less time than that...
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just collecting dimes and nickel
im working with small capital
just to show, yall my style
All that work just to be a "small fish", should've just win the lotto instead of complaining about how hard work is especially little compensation work... ;D
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All that work just to be a "small fish", should've just win the lotto instead of complaining about how hard work is especially little compensation work... ;D
It's all good man.
You use your time however you want, and he does what he want.
I do what I want.
Everything's good.
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Losses suck...I'm glad half my loss in twitter was recovered with IMGN. Next week, it should be fine. Twitter CEO fawked the traders by reporting DAU for the 1st time.
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5 minutes x 48 (30 mins) per 24 hour day = 240 minutes
Man what a waste... I bet buying the winning lotto numbers take much less time than that...
Lmao
Thats some good math.
/s
A glance is like 5-10 seconds
3-5 minutes per day
Also
You should read some of my guide
The market doesn’t open 24/7
Maybe if u do bitcoin
Lol
Already show how much u know
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Losses suck...I'm glad half my loss in twitter was recovered with IMGN. Next week, it should be fine. Twitter CEO fawked the traders by reporting DAU for the 1st time.
Lol
I told you guys not to play with single stock
You are playing on earning
50/50
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bro you glancing once in a while but your mind is in it 24/7
Naw man
My mind is strong
I saw your trade
You be going $20k-30k on one stock (YOLO you only live once)
Like your SNAP
You probably
1. Foolish
2. Have lots of money
I would never buy single stock
If i do, im in and out
I probably splits that $20-30k
Into multiple stocks if you going that route
$3k Netflix
$3k google
$3k Facebook
$3k apple
You know
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Darkhelment
Don’t put all your money in one stock
Even if its Apple
You need diversificatio n
Single stock should just be play money
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Lol
I told you guys not to play with single stock
You are playing on earning
50/50
Out of 30 trades this year, only 3 are red. I'm still GREEN...YEY! Nothing ventured, nothing gain. As long as I keep to good risk management and portfolio theory, I should be fine unless I start to make a lot of mistakes, then I stop trading for a while.
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HR, he makes over six figure and his wife probably does the same...he can afford to plays with 20k-30k per position. He's probably sittin on 100k-200k...
Earth to HmongRock...we are not stupid...we've read all the books.
Naw man
My mind is strong
I saw your trade
You be going $20k-30k on one stock (YOLO you only live once)
Like your SNAP
You probably
1. Foolish
2. Have lots of money
I would never buy single stock
If i do, im in and out
I probably splits that $20-30k
Into multiple stocks if you going that route
$3k Netflix
$3k google
$3k Facebook
$3k apple
You know
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Darkhelment
Don’t put all your money in one stock
Even if its Apple
You need diversificatio n
Single stock should just be play money
Bro, no worries.... I have 7 investment accounts.
The one I show here is my play money.
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HR, he makes over six figure and his wife probably does the same...he can afford to plays with 20k-30k per position. He's probably sittin on 100k-200k...
Earth to HmongRock...we are not stupid...we've read all the books.
Bro I do make six figures but I have more than 200k. But don't tell anyone else.
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Lmao
Thats some good math.
/s
Definitely better than "lack basic decimal skills"...No "s"
A glance is like 5-10 seconds
3-5 minutes per day
You never mentioned "5-10 seconds" or "per day" so I take that as back pedal...
Also
You should read some of my guide
The market doesn’t open 24/7
Maybe if u do bitcoin
Lol
Already show how much u know
You want me to call you out for "giving bad financial advises" like other members too...That alone "Already show how much u know small fish"... ;D
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HR, he makes over six figure and his wife probably does the same...he can afford to plays with 20k-30k per position. He's probably sittin on 100k-200k...
Earth to HmongRock...we are not stupid...we've read all the books.
;D ;D ;D ...common knowledge...
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HR, he makes over six figure and his wife probably does the same...he can afford to plays with 20k-30k per position. He's probably sittin on 100k-200k...
Earth to HmongRock...we are not stupid...we've read all the books.
i don't know his situation
i don't know your situation
this thread is just about day trading
getting in and out
collecting nickel and dimes
trying to show you guys how i do it
share us your strategy
this strategy is what the super computer are doing
but at a much faster rate
and collecting pennies
(https://cdn-images-1.medium.com/max/1200/0*YvMkQge8LgTncdOx.png)
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wisemon,
nobody is calling no one stupid
i think i know your strategy
you are playing on earning report
and with your biotech, new FDA approval, testing result, and discovery
trust me, i know bro
i've been in this game for a long time
like i say it can go
50/50
if you choose to go this route,
i recommend you put a stop loss
not trying to scam everyone here
hmong people just started playing this white man game
so gotta spread the word and teach people the right stuff
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Bro where you from?
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Bro where you from?
Wisconsin
Northern part
Wish i can go down to Foxconn
And gain 6 figures
Jk
Money means nothing to me
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Wisconsin
Northern part
Wish i can go down to Foxconn
And gain 6 figures
Jk
Money means nothing to me
Really? Me too bro
Foxconn been slow to create jobs, seem they have habit of lying.
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As I said, we've read all the decent books on trading and investing. High-frequency trading has been out for over a decade. The current thinking is HFT algos will one day replace day traders. Day traders value to the market (liquidity) will no longer be valuable, and day trader will also no longer be able to compete with the algos. One rich Chinese billionaire did a TEDTalk about it a few years ago.
Collecting nickels and dime is not how the HFT trade. They collect half a penny or a tenth of a penny. They also have ZERO friction in trades so the whole transaction cost them nothing. Unless a trader is using Robinhood they will have friction...Als o, Robinhood doesn't have priority so it's not for guys trading with a six-figure account. It's a platform for what marketer call priming.
i don't know his situation
i don't know your situation
this thread is just about day trading
getting in and out
collecting nickel and dimes
trying to show you guys how i do it
share us your strategy
this strategy is what the super computer are doing
but at a much faster rate
and collecting pennies
(https://cdn-images-1.medium.com/max/1200/0*YvMkQge8LgTncdOx.png)
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Their culture is HORRIBLE. They treat people as replaceable parts.
Wisconsin
Northern part
Wish i can go down to Foxconn
And gain 6 figures
Jk
Money means nothing to me
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wisemon,
nobody is calling no one stupid
i think i know your strategy
you are playing on earning report
and with your biotech, new FDA approval, testing result, and discovery
trust me, i know bro
i've been in this game for a long time
like i say it can go
50/50
if you choose to go this route,
i recommend you put a stop loss
not trying to scam everyone here
hmong people just started playing this white man game
so gotta spread the word and teach people the right stuff
Risk management and portfolio theory can be simple. Here is an algorithm.
You have 100 dollars. You can only buy 10 dollars of stock at a time. You can only have 70 dollars (7 position) out at a time. Why save 30? The 30 dollars is your cushion. You are not to use it unless you are stuck and believe the market is wrong. This allows you to average down or absorb losses without breaking the bank. Some argue for 5 dollars a time OR only 50 out at a time (never all in one position), but these guys are SUPER wealthy.
Now that you the defensive strategy setup, how do you select your offensive strategy? Offensive selection is the HARDEST part:
VALUE INVESTMENT THESIS
If you use Buffet, Bogle, or Graham's method then the selection is pretty straight forward. If a company pays a dividend and it's a consumable business that people will always need then invest in it if they have good management and culture. In addition, invest in what you know. The classic case here is Coca-cola 30 years ago. I don't know if I recommend coca-cola because sugar drinks are fading for healthier drinks. This is YOUR strategy. This strategy is called a LONG game and has a basic principle of dividend paying and profit over time = wealth. TRUE. Since this strategy is long-term, I decided why should I do the work when the fund manager is doing this for me? So for my 401k/IRA I let the fund manager do the work. It's far more efficient than what I can ever accomplish.
CYCLE/BALANCE INVESTMENT THESIS
If you use Lynch, Templeton, and Dalio method then they state that market moves in a cycle. Their goal is to identify market cycles and invest going into the upcycle, and bail before the down cycle. Lynch also encourages to take the risk. If there is blood on the street, you buy is what these guys would do then you sell when euphoria sets in... Today we call this the hype cycle.
Aside from that, there's the basic accounting 101, read the balance sheet, income statement, look at free cash flow...this type of review doesn't work on a growth stock because they normally are burning cash and raising cash. For example, Buffet and Graham method never have seen Amazon, Ebay, Facebook, etc... because the value thesis would never see the growth thesis. In 1990 to the present, the growth stocks outperformed the value stocks.
GROWTH/DAY TRADING INVESTMENT THESIS
This is one is harder to describe because fads do exists. In growth, you look at technology stocks and invest in a company with significantly higher growth than the market. For every facebook there is a myspace. So there's really no repeatable way here...Some use a metric in tech stock like number of users...for example Daily Average User is a growth metric for social media. But what about a biotech stock? Clinical trials make and break a biotech...so good clinical can mean 100% gain...but this is like gambling....so what really comes down to is that 50/50 as you've said...but it's slightly better than 50/50. One way to get some advantage is you look at trend...if a stock is trending negatively before the catalyst, the short cover will be higher... In this game, information is wealth, and so staying on top of information is key... Some people use scanners to scan the market for news and trend. Some people use technical analysis 50dma/200dma, RSI, stochastic, macd, volume and so forth. In my opinion, volume leads to pricing...one catalyst is ER...so in my game I was playing ER... You are right...I should have use a stop loss but it didn't matter...by 9am ET, the 10% loss was there. So I said keep it due to 24% revenue rise from last year...the market is wrong...time will tell. It's also telling me I should buy SNAP but I'm scared their DAU is not mDAU.
I honestly try a bit of this and that...to figure out my own investment style. As you said, risk management is the most important thing and to each their own. My 401k/IRA is long term, so the portfolio is high risk only in funds...I'll adjusts it downward as I approach certain age. My day trading account I day trade...To be VERY HONEST, it's a hobby...it's shop talk to senior management. Sometimes I don't trade actively and I put them into ETF and work. Sometimes I get excited about trading and I start to research the market to see what to do. I think most importantly, nobody rises to the top rank without understanding economics and markets. Nobody gets to the top position without learning how to make sound decision based upon high ambiguity, and being able to talk about learning from bad decisions. Call it practice to stay on top of things.
GTLA
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good stuff
hopefully we can convince/get more people involve with this white man game
outside the 401k at work
a lot of hmong folks don't really have anything
not even a brokerage account/roth
getting people to change their hearts and mind
i wrote a couple of guides here
but i don't think people are interest
getting to realized that 10%ish yearly is pretty good
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5 minutes x 48 (30 mins) per 24 hour day = 240 minutes
Man what a waste... I bet buying the winning lotto numbers take much less time than that...
got dumb ignorant hmong people like this
instead of asking the right question and learning
they come here and attack
if you are not interest
no need to open your mouth
just moved on
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I tell all my family members to open a Vanguard / Fidelity account and contribute as much or as little as they can monthly. Every penny helps to build long-term wealth. Especially, since they are all younger, they got time on their side.
I don't suggest they play stock market. Just buy and hold.
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got dumb ignorant hmong people like this
"got dumb ignorant hmong Nostradamus like this" that continues to fail and even get called out by other for giving "bad investment advise"...
instead of asking the right question and learning
they come here and attack
"instead of" taking ownership of his wrongs and learn from it, he continues his epic failure cycle and run to the "MOD" and cry about it when someone points out his fraudulent failures even though he also put them down like a know it all...
if you are not interest
no need to open your mouth
just moved on
"if you" cannot take ownership of your wrongs and learn from it, "no need to open your mouth"...
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ATVI has been taking a beating. I am thinking the $40pps is priced in already for ER. Took a position in ATVI. ;D ;D ;D ;D I already recover my twitter lost and some.
Just share a couple with you
Don’t see you put these down yet
EA
ATVI
these two look good for a swing trade
Videogame stock, NFL starwar, call of duty, Warcraft
Play caution
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ATVI has been taking a beating. I am thinking the $40pps is priced in already for ER. Took a position in ATVI. ;D ;D ;D ;D I already recover my twitter lost and some.
Im thinking about ATVI too, bro
Im a huge fan of the call of duty series
Used to play Warcraft
Love overwatch
They got some good games
But they been doing stuff I don’t like
Mostly mircotransacti on
It is really toxic
I was playing the new call of duty
And they wanted $1 for a red dot sight
Iono
The signs are not good on this one
They part way with destiny
The Warcraft expansion suck, people quitting
The new call of duty is pretty bad
Im thinking this thing is going tank
I will probably short
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Looking for it to tank to $35
I’ll sit out
Plus free battle royal is where its at
Aka fortnite
ATVI
I will be careful with this one brother
They haven’t make good games in a while
Actually all games suck these days
Too many mircotransacti on
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Wiseman
I don’t recommend you buy ATVI
All the bearish signs are there
You know they laying off hundred of workers
CEO and top brass are leaving
Put a stop loss at 1-5%
This thing is going down
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Looks like a green day. :)
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Wiseman
I don’t recommend you buy ATVI
All the bearish signs are there
You know they laying off hundred of workers
CEO and top brass are leaving
Put a stop loss at 1-5%
This thing is going down
Everything you just said is why I like this trade. There is so much pessimism that it tanked the stock 50% in less than half a year.
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Everything you just said is why I like this trade. There is so much pessimism that it tanked the stock 50% in less than half a year.
Be Fearful When Others Are Greedy and Greedy When Others Are Fearful
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Everything you just said is why I like this trade. There is so much pessimism that it tanked the stock 50% in less than half a year.
Lol
Im telling you man
Lots People are quitting call of duty and Warcraft
Too many mircotransacti on
Pay to win
50/50 chance
Good luck
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Be Fearful When Others Are Greedy and Greedy When Others Are Fearful
You in ATVI too?
Lol
Since you to like to gamble with earnings report
Should think about doing options
You can make some serious dough
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just got done shoveling snow
ok, let's play
im in for my $1500 share of 36 ATVI
may the great shaman sheyee be with us
let's YOLO this
LMAO
50/50 chance
my risk is really small on this one, im only playing with $1500
(https://i.imgur.com/cnpdQt6.jpg)
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You in ATVI too?
Lol
Since you to like to gamble with earnings report
Should think about doing options
You can make some serious dough
Nope I'm not in ATVI. Good luck to you guys. I'm heavily invested in AAPL and GOOGL. They're both green today so I'm happy.
I'm looking at other tickers but nothing I want to put money into yet.
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just got done shoveling snow
ok, let's play
im in for my $1500 share of 36 ATVI
may the great shaman sheyee be with us
let's YOLO this
LMAO
50/50 chance
my risk is really small on this one, im only playing with $1500
You're the "hmong Nostradamus and is always right" and you're begging a "shaman" to be with you?? ??? :idiot2:
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It was a quick trade...no brainer move. I was in yesterday late, and out today.
Lol
Im telling you man
Lots People are quitting call of duty and Warcraft
Too many mircotransacti on
Pay to win
50/50 chance
Good luck
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You didn't read my post about risk management. That is YOLO for sure.
just got done shoveling snow
ok, let's play
im in for my $1500 share of 36 ATVI
may the great shaman sheyee be with us
let's YOLO this
LMAO
50/50 chance
my risk is really small on this one, im only playing with $1500
(https://i.imgur.com/cnpdQt6.jpg)
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Base on trend charts, $44 is the resistance. From there it will go to $46... $48 is really hard to reach...MM has to buy MILLIONS to make that rise. Check volume because volume leads to pricing. Today is the 1st green day after . It may go green tomorrow or go red immediately. I would sell at open...within the 1st 15 minutes...depe nding on the price action.
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Base on trend charts, $44 is the resistance. From there it will go to $46... $48 is really hard to reach...MM has to buy MILLIONS to make that rise. Check volume because volume leads to pricing. Today is the 1st green day after . It may go green tomorrow or go red immediately. I would sell at open...within the 1st 15 minutes...depe nding on the price action.
i was shoveling the snow today
huge snow storm in wisconsin today
and im thinking about our ATVI discussion
early last year, when i was at gamestop for the release of black ops 4
there were tons of people waiting outside
everyone was pretty excited for the battle royal, zombie, and multiple
i got home, pop that disk in and play it evenever i can
it was pretty fun
as i'm shoveling the snow
i was thinking about how much fun, i have with black ops
that why i decided to just go for it
and say to myself, the market is just over reacting
after hour looks pretty good
well, see how the market react tomorrow
O0 O0 O0
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when i was at gamestop
they were alot of people
probably the biggest line, i seen in a while
i think they make like half a billion dollars
$500 million only on black ops 4
that's what make me change last minute
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after hour looks pretty good
well, see how the market react tomorrow
O0 O0 O0
That doesn't sound very confident from "the hmong Nostradamus and is always right"...?? ???
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Don’t fall in love bro... a stock is a trading vehicle. Here you are telling me a love story about the stock you just bought.
You do you. It’s not a bad investment.
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looks like the great shaman sheyee was with me today
rode the wave this morning and close at $44.42
took some nice gain
outlook is slow
they are rebuilding, so probably no growth this year
my $1500 has turn into almost $1700 year to date
let's keep this thread experiment going
(https://i.imgur.com/R4aWUAD.jpg)
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what are you guys playing?
just long?
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Here is what I'm thinking...
WB, BUD, Z and MAYBE...not sure yet HRB (tax season may give lift). I'm sidelined because I've been too busy to look at stocks and nothing looks sexy... I was considering MJ stocks but their P/E is unknown....CAN NTRUST was on my map....wish I woulda jumped on it 2 weeks ago, but again, very speculative in MJ stocks...their valuation is whacky such as CRON, TLRY, and APHA...but peeps keep buying...
Also, NWL just got slaughtered on earnings...Thi s may allow for a dead-cat bounce after the 3 days. My company competes with NWL and we got slaughtered too and it bounced back 10%.
I'm thinking of buying PUTS on EXAS because their growth rate is unsustainable. ..Last year they grew 70%...can they keep growing at that rate...I don't believe so...Whatever happens, I think they are going to get a trim...maybe 10%.
Another PUT is FIT but it's highly speculative given they may have had a great Q4...I use to be a bull but the CEO is an idiot...wished I had bought DXCM instead...inst ead of making like 12k...the return would have been like 5-10x of FIT return. Lack of diversificatio n and falling in love with a product I use.
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Here is what I'm thinking...
WB, BUD, Z and MAYBE...not sure yet HRB (tax season may give lift). I'm sidelined because I've been too busy to look at stocks and nothing looks sexy... I was considering MJ stocks but their P/E is unknown....CAN NTRUST was on my map....wish I woulda jumped on it 2 weeks ago, but again, very speculative in MJ stocks...their valuation is whacky such as CRON, TLRY, and APHA...but peeps keep buying...
Also, NWL just got slaughtered on earnings...Thi s may allow for a dead-cat bounce after the 3 days. My company competes with NWL and we got slaughtered too and it bounced back 10%.
I'm thinking of buying PUTS on EXAS because their growth rate is unsustainable. ..Last year they grew 70%...can they keep growing at that rate...I don't believe so...Whatever happens, I think they are going to get a trim...maybe 10%.
Another PUT is FIT but it's highly speculative given they may have had a great Q4...I use to be a bull but the CEO is an idiot...wished I had bought DXCM instead...inst ead of making like 12k...the return would have been like 5-10x of FIT return. Lack of diversificatio n and falling in love with a product I use.
Dang
You playing those options put and call huh?
I don’t know man
To me, it. Is wayyyy too gambling
50/50 chance
Roll the dice
Im watching $SIX
Six flag
Theme park are packed these days
Crowded as hell
Should see a bounce back quick
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the role of option is really two folds:
1) insurance against your equity (putting a collar)
2) making money selling calls/puts because you are required to hold.
The gamblers like you said do by calls/puts on ER for 50/50.
It is like calling black or red but you have the option to sell before expiration and the payout can be amazing. The best traders play options.
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people YOLOing on option
lol
live free or die hard
(https://i.redd.it/6qno5ezn9p321.jpg)
the role of option is really two folds:
1) insurance against your equity (putting a collar)
2) making money selling calls/puts because you are required to hold.
The gamblers like you said do by calls/puts on ER for 50/50.
It is like calling black or red but you have the option to sell before expiration and the payout can be amazing. The best traders play options.
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It's all or nothing! YOLO!
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Lol
Bro, once i hit that one million
Im taking everything out
And just 100% bond and CDs
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Lol
Bro, once i hit that one million
Im taking everything out
And just 100% bond and CDs
When you hit that million, let's blow it on a Vegas trip. Deal? O0
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When you hit that million, let's blow it on a Vegas trip. Deal? O0
no need to wait
i might go this summer
hit up them lobster casino buffet
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Let's do it man. Always wanted to try this one.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4xa4vYHwcwY (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4xa4vYHwcwY)
or this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cA-Eh33C8Z0 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cA-Eh33C8Z0)
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FTR was a winner.
BIG was a winner.
HRB was a winner.
TNXP was a winner...but I sold TOO early.
BIOC is my next bet. Low float, near 52week low, with data coming out in march.
My dogs are VOD, TWTR and NWL... :'(
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FTR was a winner.
BIG was a winner.
HRB was a winner.
TNXP was a winner...but I sold TOO early.
BIOC is my next bet. Low float, near 52week low, with data coming out in march.
My dogs are VOD, TWTR and NWL... :'(
Nice picks! What you looking at this week?
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Nice picks! What you looking at this week?
Nano Biotech
* BIOC - low float setup. I believe $1 floor has been established. Catalyst end of the month could lead to some big gains. (I'm already in)
Things I am looking at...
Tuesday
* NOG - All the energy stocks saw positive Q4 and 2018.
Wednesday
* SMRT - PPS to EV is off. I think it will jump on ER.
Thursday
* HMI - outselling everyone on the wearable.
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Nano Biotech
* BIOC - low float setup. I believe $1 floor has been established. Catalyst end of the month could lead to some big gains. (I'm already in)
Things I am looking at...
Tuesday
* NOG - All the energy stocks saw positive Q4 and 2018.
Wednesday
* SMRT - PPS to EV is off. I think it will jump on ER.
Thursday
* HMI - outselling everyone on the wearable.
BIOC and NOG are the stocks I used to play when I first started.
I'll check out the other two. Too busy right now to do my research.
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NOG and HMI ran today. BIOC and SMRT are maintaining position.
$HMI = $18?
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$BIOC is running after hours. 3 out of 4 are hitting today :)) What a lucky day.
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16 swing trades with only 1 loss...Holding 2 ducks...
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$BIOC is running after hours. 3 out of 4 are hitting today :)) What a lucky day.
What a day! I caught ATOS and BIOC!!! :).
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What a day! I caught ATOS and BIOC!!! :).
those are penny stock
for that reason
im out