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Sports Category => Outdoors & Recreational Hobbies => Topic started by: VillainousHero on August 25, 2021, 04:18:48 PM

Title: New fishing reel
Post by: VillainousHero on August 25, 2021, 04:18:48 PM
Gosh I tell myself I have no need for it.  However with just a few mouse clicks, I went a ordered a new reel.  D'uh D'oh D'ang.  I guess all that time not fishing, means I'll just spin the reel at home for no apparent reason.  Just to have it.  Shimano shenanigans.  Twin power wins.

And to date, since my Curado BFS reel finally got delivered about a month ago, I still haven't even put line on that reel.
Title: Re: New fishing reel
Post by: VillainousHero on August 29, 2021, 05:12:53 PM
I spooled up some YGK Soul upgrade X-8 line 14# box listed onto the Curado BFS reel.  Mounted the reel on the Phenix Ultra MBX 6'6" Light power rod.  Did some backyard casting just lightly casting only and was getting roughly about 20-25 handle cranks of distance on 1/8th oz bullet weight.  So that probably puts it at about 40-50 feet of distance.  Not too shabby, that's far enough to get to where most fish will bite on the water.

This is really gonna be my ice fishing reel going into winter.  The only thing that I really don't like is how there's a different paint job on the BFS reel on the front guard.  It's black while the rest of the reel is a matted greyish black.  Why they couldn't get the same paint color scheme, no idea.
Title: Re: New fishing reel
Post by: Reporter on September 13, 2021, 06:56:59 PM
My Loomis rod and Shimano reel are waiting for a good spot to catch any kind of fish. But I haven't been able to get out there at all. I've gone out only twice this entire spring to summer.
Title: Re: New fishing reel
Post by: VillainousHero on September 25, 2021, 06:06:05 PM
I also barely went out to fish.  A few times in the early spring, then the river water level rose super high and I couldn't shore fish.  Then when summer came around the water was super low and didn't catch any fish there.  I didn't want to drive far out, since covid and crazy curfew times.

It's a bit easier to ice fish, but I still prefer to not park and then walk out to ice fish.  If I can drive onto the lake, it's far easier.
Title: Re: New fishing reel
Post by: Reporter on November 02, 2021, 12:30:21 PM
I worry about my truck when it's on the icy lake. Those thundering sounds make me think the surface could crash any time.

We'll see if I dare to ice-fish this year. The weather has started to be despecably cold since Sunday. Great snow is forthcoming for sure.
Title: Re: New fishing reel
Post by: hmgROCK on November 02, 2021, 01:19:29 PM
I worry about my truck when it's on the icy lake. Those thundering sounds make me think the surface could crash any time.

We'll see if I dare to ice-fish this year. The weather has started to be despecably cold since Sunday. Great snow is forthcoming for sure.

don't take your truck
just park and walk

 ;D O0

thats what i do

i see people take their RV too
Title: Re: New fishing reel
Post by: Reporter on November 02, 2021, 01:25:04 PM
Depends on how big the lake is, right? Can't carry all your equipment from shore to where they bite the most if the lake is more vast. Many of us want everything right by the fish house.

don't take your truck
just park and walk

 ;D O0

thats what i do

i see people take their RV too
Title: Re: New fishing reel
Post by: VillainousHero on November 02, 2021, 03:37:33 PM
It takes a lot of work walking out and dragging all the stuff you need to be comfortable.  There's obvious the fishing equipment, rod and reel, lures.  Sometimes you want live bait, so minnows.  Then you must have an auger to drill through the ice.  Then you should have a shelter to get out of the wind.  If you have a shelter, it would be good to have a heater with propane tanks.  Of course you need a fish finder/flasher to know if there's fish under you or figure out the depth right away.

You can't just throw your rods into a bucket or toss them around cuz heavy equipment will shift or slide and break your rods.  So you may want a rod case to store them.  Then don't forget the water/drinks, some food or snacks.  Now if you catch fish, you need to haul those fish back if you plan on keeping some or a lot of fish.  It's not always a cake walk cuz some lakes or spots, you need to go down hill and that means you have to go uphill on the return. 

If there is no snow on ground, dragging your sled over dirt/gravel/grass is very hard work.  Unless you built some wheels for that thing, but who does?  Cuz you gonna have to drag them while on the frozen lake too then.
Title: Re: New fishing reel
Post by: VillainousHero on November 10, 2021, 09:54:16 PM
So I got this 5000 Shimano Twinpower reel and just noticed that the handle doesn't fold down.  It's a solid handle.  Hmmm good thing in the long run cuz less moving parts means one less loose part to wear out.  Bad thing cuz I can't fold the handle down for transport like all the other reels I've used before.  This is the last type of reel to use a titanium nitride spool lip.  Seems like they're phasing out the titanium nitride coating due to cost and complexity. 

One thing I noticed is that there seems to be a lot of gap in between some of the parts that normally I would think should be made to fit a lot closer.  Then I noticed that the bottom of the reel body seemed to have a open port for water to drain out of.  This has been one of the problems I had with fishing in the rain is that the reels will eventually get water logged inside of them and they start to bind or after bringing them home, I see oil seeping out from the seams on the frame.    Maybe this drainage port will address that problem.  Then again I won't be able to test this out until maybe next year if I do decide to fish in the rain.
Title: Re: New fishing reel
Post by: VillainousHero on December 26, 2021, 07:26:25 AM
I decided to test out the Shimano Twinpower 1000FD spinning reel for ice fishing.  The priority is the Sufix 131 G-Core braid 6# .14mm line spooled on the Shimano Twinpower 1000FD spinning reel.  This would be one of the most expensive set up, both in reel and line.  The rod I have it mounted on is Thorne Bros. Perch Sweetheart custom 32" length.  Although I was really trying to test it out on crappies, it just happen to be walleyes that were hooked up today.  While hooked up with fish, the combination was very high performance, it seem a bit too easy.  The one piece handle has a solid transfer of power and feedback.  The drag worked very well, smooth and sturdy, no start up pressure build or drop.  The ability of the reel to line lay on the spool had more precision that I had expected, no bulge spots or dips.  Perhaps it has something to do with the Sufix 131 G-Core braid being well rounded as well.
Title: Re: New fishing reel
Post by: VillainousHero on January 01, 2022, 11:09:10 PM
So after using my Curado BFS for ice fishing and kind of like how the performance of it goes.  Overall it does a pretty good job.  The clicking drag is very similar to that of spinning reels.

Now compared to the older Scorpion BFS which was released in 2017.  The Scorpion BFS is basically the same as the Curado BFS, except for better refinements.  Back then the Scorpion BFS was selling for just over $300 retail.  Compared to the 2021 released Curado BFS that sells at $190 retail.  So the Curado BFS is a cheapen version of the Scorpion BFS.  So with the Holiday deal, I guess I own a Scorpion BFS now.  That's how I can make the comparison as so far.  Now the conundrum is figuring out which line to spool the Scorpion BFS with.  Still haven't decided...
Title: Re: New fishing reel
Post by: VillainousHero on March 14, 2022, 03:40:44 PM
Time to hang up the ice fishing set up and move them over to the full sized.  Hmmm...which combination?  If I should switch lines, which ones to pick?
Title: Re: New fishing reel
Post by: Reporter on March 15, 2022, 07:42:17 PM
I keep my 7' St. Croix Premier/PC70HF pole with a 40-lb braided spider line and an 8-lb leader on the 2500 Stradic Ci4+ reel for all purposes. From crappies to bass and eyes, this set works wonders!
Title: Re: New fishing reel
Post by: hmgROCK on March 15, 2022, 10:15:37 PM
Damn

Yall have new reel and pole every single year??
Whats the hell is wrong with last years reel???

 ;D ;D ;D

Sheesh

I ain’t spending $100-300
Title: Re: New fishing reel
Post by: VillainousHero on March 18, 2022, 05:04:51 AM
Cuz, I'm getting old and older.  That's a good reason.

Some people eat lobster, steak, and caviar.  Some people just eat hot dogs, peanut butter sandwiches, and instant ramen noodles.  Er just something mutually exclusive for a thought.

Hobbies aren't free.  Gotta pay a little to enjoy a lot.
Title: Re: New fishing reel
Post by: theking on March 18, 2022, 11:31:15 PM
Cuz, I'm getting old and older.  That's a good reason.

Some people eat lobster, steak, and caviar.  Some people just eat hot dogs, peanut butter sandwiches, and instant ramen noodles.  Er just something mutually exclusive for a thought.

Hobbies aren't free.  Gotta pay a little to enjoy a lot.

Well put... O0
Title: Re: New fishing reel
Post by: theking on March 18, 2022, 11:36:25 PM
If one can't afford nicer things, that's fine, gotta do what one gotta do but don't be an idiot by lying about it.

For example, when you go to a cheap buffet and have shrimp and snow crab legs, don't lie and claim it's "lobster" and "king crab".. ;D ;D ;D:

(https://i.imgur.com/lP8nEiW.jpg)

Title: Re: New fishing reel
Post by: VillainousHero on April 14, 2022, 10:13:54 AM
So a few days ago, weather was nice and kind I went outside to practice casting with the Curado BFS reel.  Of course I was using the 1/4 oz. practice plug so that was very easy to also see and retrieve it back.  Normally I use an actual brass bullet weight but since that's such a small profile it's that much harder to see.

Anyway I had the Curado BFS reel mounted onto the Phenix Ultra MBX 7' Light casting rod.  It all seem to work out very well.  During the winter period with the temps below zero, the Curado BFS reel wasn't working so well.  Those backyard snow practice casting seemed a bit sluggish in comparison to it's twin predecessor the Curado 70.  However with temps in 50F the Curado BFS worked smoothly.  In addition the magnetic FTB brake system was very quiet, in comparison to the typical centrifugal brakes systems on the other Shimano reels.  Let's just say that my Metanium MG7 reels sounds like noisy whirly noise makers.  Even the current makes of Chronarch MGL reels sounds noisy.

On the spool of the Curado BFS reel I have the YGK G-Soul SS112 Sinking Braid 10# at .165 mm diameter.  Now just my backyard casting it started to get close to spooling out.  I may have only about 40 yards of line on the spool maybe 50 yards at most.  Most of my fishing cast are only around 30-35 yards distance with lures of 1/4 oz. weights to 3/8 oz. weights.  Even then I mostly cast under 30 yards with a gentle cast of a wrist flick allowing the lure to propel and carry itself. 

I have yet to wet the line on this set up, but I'm feeling confident that it will perform well.  It may be some trout fishing first at the stocker pond.  Hopefully it will be some nicer weather.

Title: Re: New fishing reel
Post by: VillainousHero on June 30, 2022, 06:17:11 AM
I finally got to using two new reels and putting them through their pace.  I did go catfishing and utilized both the Stradic 5000FL and Twin Power 5000FD.  The Stradic 5000FL was paired with the Shimano Teramar Southeast 7' Heavy power rod.  The Twin Power 5000FD was paired with my old Cabela's XML 7' Heavy power rod.

Both of these reels were for upgrading from my old Stradic 4000FG reels that has been in serviced just past the millennium.  They were showing age and wear.  When it rains the and the reels gets wet, they really bind up.  At times the anti-reverse system fails altogether. 

Anyways it was time for the upgrades and they performed on their first field test run.  The Twin Power 5000FD reel only dealt with the smaller catfish so no real testing of it's potential was encountered.  The Stradic 5000FL was the one that fought with the bigger catfish.  Winching power was solid.  The drag also provided good resistance and flow response.  That was properly utilized and even when the catfish was close to shoreline and ran hard just a few more times. 

Casting flow was great with both reels on their respective rods.  Hopefully these newer reels will live up to 20 years of service like the old Stradic FG reels. 
Title: Re: New fishing reel
Post by: Reporter on July 14, 2022, 05:02:50 PM
My Stradic and Ballistic are great. I'm starting to dislike my two Shimano Saharas now.
Title: Re: New fishing reel
Post by: VillainousHero on July 15, 2022, 06:41:05 PM
Sahara reels are okay for like panfish.  They don't have the winching power for larger fish.
Title: Re: New fishing reel
Post by: Reporter on July 15, 2022, 08:27:23 PM
Yeah. They aren't that smooth, either.
Title: Re: New fishing reel
Post by: VillainousHero on April 12, 2023, 08:57:16 PM
Some time last year, I acquired a new model of the Shimano Bantam MGL A 150HG casting reel.  I was very curious about the reel as they made some changes to the spool.  The newer MGL III spool is a 35mm diameter and 19mm width as compared to the prior Bantam spool of 34mm diameter and 22mm width.  In essence you get a taller but narrower spool.  Some newer mechanical changes.  There is a design called the Infinity Drive that supports the main shaft to allow better torque transfer.  There is the Silent Tune that feature stabilizes the spool bearings so spool vibration is reduced along with bearing noise.

Well in the end the reel cast has an unbelievable smoothness and silent deployment of line.  I was an almost eerie ghostly feel of nothingness on my first cast release.  I followed up with several more trial casts of awe in nothingness.  I went to get my prior Bantam casting reel to check and reminded myself of the little engine hum that I get with it.  With the older model, I could feel the change of the lure speed in the air as it decelerates towards the end of the cast.  With the new Bantam, I could not feel it.   It was just too silent and too smooth quiet.  That did require more visual attention to the lure projectile in mid air.
Title: Re: New fishing reel
Post by: VillainousHero on January 25, 2024, 11:37:04 PM
Shimano...SLX 70A casting reel

This one is supposed to one up the just recently released SLX 70 MGL.  It's all about the spool.  The Magnum Lite spool that's lighter in weight in comparison to the standard spool.  The 70A comes with the latest iteration the Magnum Lite III spool that is in likeness to their Aldebaran BFS reel with the MGL III spool.

When comparing the SLX 70 to the equivalent Curado 70 of both in MGL designation and at price point of $150 vs $250 with near identical parts in everything.  The SLX should be a winner.
Title: Re: New fishing reel
Post by: VillainousHero on February 12, 2024, 03:04:51 AM
For 2024 the Shimano Twin Power freshwater spinning reel is getting a new generation.  :D

The specs on the newer one is doing away with the titanium nitride spool lip.  Gosh, so pretty much no more Shimano spinning reels will be using a titanium nitride spool lip anymore.  Well until the new one actually comes out.  Let's see what it will be.

As far as I know the clearance Twin Power sure went fast at the Shackle Warehouse. 
Title: Re: New fishing reel
Post by: Prude on February 12, 2024, 04:49:42 AM
I know now that better equipment means more fun
fishing.
Title: Re: New fishing reel
Post by: theking on February 12, 2024, 06:12:53 PM
True, inferior less quality stuff can still get the job done but the enjoyment and overall experience of higher quality equipment are priceless... O0
Title: Re: New fishing reel
Post by: VillainousHero on April 04, 2024, 05:59:36 AM
Wow competition for the BFS reel segment is getting heated up.

Ark Gravity BFS reel retails for $149.99.  It costs less than the Shimano Curado BFS at $209.99 and is supposed to deliver performance near that of the Shimano Aldebaran BFS that retails currently for $469.99.

They are a new player into this.  However if they deliver on performance endurance like that of Shimano, it would be a winner.  Shimano reels when cared for will lasts 20 yrs but typically start to wear out about 10 yrs old.  Even when fished hard they typically lasts more than 5 yrs.  Unlike most other cheaper reels typically lasts one season of use and barely carry over 2 or 3 years.
Title: Re: New fishing reel
Post by: VillainousHero on April 18, 2024, 05:23:19 PM
For 2024 the Shimano Twin Power freshwater spinning reel is getting a new generation.  :D

The specs on the newer one is doing away with the titanium nitride spool lip.  Gosh, so pretty much no more Shimano spinning reels will be using a titanium nitride spool lip anymore.  Well until the new one actually comes out.  Let's see what it will be.

As far as I know the clearance Twin Power sure went fast at the Shackle Warehouse.

So the new 2024 will have size from 2500, 3000, 4000, 5000.  Gone is the 1000 size in us market and the 2000 size in Japanese market.  So the most tank 1000 size reel is gone.  The 1000 size will fall down to the Stradic or Vanford.  So that's how they will control sales on those models.

The new reel body is a combination of both aluminum and Ci4+ reel body design.  Seems like a lot of the newer reels are going this way with a combination of material.  Newer machining tolerance and a few minor technology design changes.