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Elon Musk, who arrived in the U.S. at age 31, is being questioned on his citizenship again. What to know

Former Republican congresswoman Liz Cheney has attacked the world’s richest man Elon Musk and drawn attention to the fact that he has not always been a US citizen as part of a social media spat between the pair.

Musk – whose Department of Government Efficiency (DOGE) is at work scrutinizing the running of the federal government with a view to implementing cost-cutting measures at the behest of new president Donald Trump – began the argument by circulating a post on his X platform drawing attention to Cheney’s early career working for the U.S. Agency for International Development (USAID).

Musk suggested Cheney was “spawned” by USAID, which is tasked with handing out foreign aid and which he is targeting for abolition, earlier this week referring to it as a “criminal organization” without explaining himself.

Dozens of agency officials have since been placed on leave and billions of dollars have been frozen as the Trump administration attempts to merge it with the State Department.

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Cheney did indeed work for USAID before she enrolled at the University of Chicago Law School in 1996 and again during the George W Bush administration, serving on projects in Hungary and Poland.

Now a pariah to the MAGA movement for working on the House committee that investigated January 6 and for campaigning with Kamala Harris in last year’s election, Cheney responded to the billionaire’s post about her USAID background by saying: “Damn right, Elon. I’m proud of what America did to win the Cold War, defeat Soviet communism, and defend democracy.

“Our nation stood for freedom. You may be unfamiliar with that part of our history since you weren’t yet an American citizen.”

In light of her comments, here’s a look at Musk’s citizenship status and what it might mean for his future political ambitions.

Does Elon Musk have American citizenship?

Yes. Although Musk was born and raised in Pretoria, South Africa, he emigrated to the United States as a student in 1992 and obtained American citizenship in 2002, according to Walter Isaacson’s 2023 biography of the tech entrepreneur.

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Musk himself said in an X post last year that he originally arrived in the country on a J-1 visa, which permits foreign students to study in the U.S., before transitioning to a H-1B temporary work visa.

Can he run for the White House?

No he cannot. The US Constitution says that only people who are natural-born citizens are eligible to become American presidents.

However, naturalized citizens may hold other high federal offices, including within an America-born president’s cabinet.

Where else does he have citizenship?

In addition to his American citizenship, Musk also retains South Africa citizenship and is also a Canadian citizen through his mother Maye Musk, who was born and raised in Canada but lived most of her adult life in South Africa.

Her connection to the country enabled Elon to obtain a Canadian passport in 1989 and study for two years at Queen’s University in Kingston, Ontario, before arriving in the U.S.

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What citizenship do his children have?

Elon Musk has fathered 12 children in total, the first six of which were born to his first wife, Canadian author Justine Wilson, between 2002 and 2006, with the couple’s first born Nevada tragically passing away from sudden infant death syndrome at the age of 10 weeks.

He has more recently had two more children with the Canadian pop star Grimes and a further three with Canadian tech executive and venture capitalist Shivon Zilis.

Musk’s children all have Canadian citizenship thanks to the shared nationality of their three mothers while any born in the United States will also have automatic American citizenship, assuming Trump does not succeed in ending the principle of birthright citizenship, which he has attempted to do as part of his crackdown on illegal immigration but which has already faced a series of legal challenges.

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..general public and law enforcement agencies:

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Bay County Sheriff Tommy Ford has announced the arrest of multiple local massage parlor owners and managers.

BCSO said they were arrested for failing to maintain records and regulations required by state law at the businesses. In July 2024, new laws took effect concerning the records and retention periods of records that massage parlors must keep.

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These laws were put in place to help combat human trafficking and prostitution, and for the health and safety of patrons, officials wrote.

Several of the targeted parlors were found to be advertising on websites commonly linked to prostitution and human trafficking. In other cases, complaints were received pertaining to sexual activity taking place in the businesses, BCSO said.


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General Discussion / PH members, is laid also your reason for working out?
« on: February 06, 2025, 11:43:28 PM »
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Khloé Kardashian admitted that sex is her No. 1 motivator to hit the gym. “I don't dress or work out so people will take a picture of me. I do it because I hope I'm going to get laid,” the Good American co-founder said during Wednesday's episode of her “Khloé in Wonder Land” podcast with guest Laura Wasser.


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..at a breakfast restaurant over the weekend:


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..Hmong as there's nothing new when it comes to a Hmong minor girl hooking up with a Hmong grandpa in the Hmong community... ???

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Amber Alert: Pregnant girl, 16, missing; suspect charged

Pregnant Wisconsin Girl, 16, Reported Missing Believed to Be with 40-Year-Old Father of Her Baby, Police Say


Dodge County prosecutors have charged a 40-year-old Arkansas man at the center of a Wisconsin Amber Alert.

Beaver Dam police believe pregnant 16-year-old Sophia Franklin is with the 40-year-old father of her unborn baby, Gary Day. Franklin was last seen at her home near 4th and Beaver streets in Beaver Dam Sunday evening. Day was last spotted in the same area Monday morning. The two have a no-contact order.

Day is now charged with two counts of child abduction and two counts of child enticement.

"Our goal is to find them in the area, hopefully, or before they go too far away from the area they last went missing," Beaver Dam Police Chief John Kreuziger told WISN 12 News Tuesday.

Franklin is 186 pounds and 5 feet, 9 inches, with brown hair and blue eyes. Day is 165 pounds and 5 feet, 7 inches, with blonde hair and green eyes.

Their whereabouts are unknown, but police believe the two are traveling in a black Buick LaCrosse. Late Tuesday, police updated the Amber Alert saying Day switched out Arkansas plates for Pennsylvania plates. The Pennsylvania license plate is KGW5186.

Right now, it is unclear how the two met or where they are heading, but Day has ties to Arkansas and Chief Kreuziger wants law enforcement in the southern state to be on alert.

"We have several agencies actually that we're working with in Arkansas," the police chief said.

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‘Million Dollar Matchmaking’ is a new service that promises to find your soulmate in less than a year. However, it does cost $1 million.

Is it worth it? Well, that’s up to you and how badly you want to find your special someone. Some people will pay anything to find that connection. Others don’t trust these kinds of apps and services and would rather not pay anything and wait patiently to find their special someone. Maybe they’re waiting on that meet cute or something and feel like they’re okay waiting. Not everyone has that luxury. Some people have been playing the waiting game for far too long and they’re ready for that connection now. They’d even be willing to spend $1M on it. That’s what you can get with Million Dollar Matchmaking it sounds like. They’re promising that you’ll find your soulmate in less than a year, it will just cost you an arm, a leg, and your heart.

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General Discussion / Man, she was my family's landlord back in the 80s
« on: February 05, 2025, 10:58:06 PM »

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..table to arouse another in the presence of your SO during a family gathering...

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'Sexually provocative' female police officer groped two male colleagues on drunken Wetherspoons night out, before asking one for sex and sending underwear photo, misconduct hearing told

A 'sexually provocative' female police officer groped two male colleagues during a drunken night out before asking one of them to have sex with her and sending him a racy picture of her in her underwear, a misconduct hearing was told.

PC Tia Johnson-Warne made advances to both men whilst sat in a booth at a Wetherspoon pub with her then cop boyfriend also in the pub, a panel heard.

In an 'incredibly awkward' move the officer - who is in her mid 20s - first grabbed one of the policemen, identified only as PC A, just above his knee before moving her hand up to his thigh.

He stopped the encounter by excusing himself to go to the bathroom and then deliberately sat away from PC Johnson-Warne, the hearing was told.

However, Johnson-Warne began pestering him explicit text messages asking him 'don't you want to duck me?' before sending him the intimate picture.

PC A, who cannot be named for legal reasons, tried to rebuff the advances by reminding her she was seeing another officer, PC Kane Brookes, who was also at the Wetherspoon pub in Ryde on the Isle of Wight.

Later on she rubbed her hand over the crotch of another officer, PC B, for around 20 seconds, the misconduct hearing heard.

PC B, who cannot be named for legal reasons, told the hearing the group were even barred from ordering more drinks because of how drunk the female officer was.

The panel also heard that on the way home from the pub, PC A was in the back of a car with PC Johnson-Warne when she tried to pull his hand under her clothing.

PC Johnson-Warne is facing gross misconduct charges for the inappropriate touches. She admits touching and messaging PC A but claims it was 'not unwelcome' flirting and denies sexually touching PC B.

A Hampshire Constabulary misconduct hearing in Eastleigh was told the three officers were in the boozer for a work social event.

Alan Jenkins, representing the force, said the female officer's actions were 'plainly inappropriate' and 'sexually provocative'.

He said: 'The allegations against PC Johnson-Warne concern her sexual attentions towards two male colleagues, PC A and PC B, at a time when she was heavily intoxicated...

'The first officer, PC A, was also sent messages via mobile phone which asked if he wanted to have sex with her, and at least one photograph of her in her underwear.

'PC A was also treated inappropriatel y whilst he was passenger on the rear seat of a car with PC Johnson-Warne towards the end of the evening. She tried to pull his hand between her legs and under her clothing.

'The second officer, PC B, was also touched in a sexually provocative manner over clothing whilst the group was in the Wetherspoons pub.

'For an officer sexually to touch colleagues in such a manner that they feel uncomfortable is plainly inappropriate.

'The issue of gender is properly immaterial... whether a male officer touched female colleagues without their consent or a female officer touched male colleagues does not matter for these purposes.

'Alcohol consumption, particularly if excessive, does not provide any excuse or justification for any touching that is unwelcome or unwanted in the circumstances.'

PC A and PC B both told the panel they were unhappy with the advances from PC Johnson-Warne.

PC A said: 'It was incredibly awkward, I have not had to deal with that behaviour before.

'I did not know how to process or deal with it.

'It was not anything I invited or wanted, I wanted that situation to stop.'

PC B said: 'I did feel that I was a victim of something sexually inappropriate.

'I'm not as sociable nowadays.

'I have tried to ignore what happened and move on.'

PC Johnson-Warne faces further allegations of gross misconduct for striking PC Brookes, after their relationship ended, and breaching bail conditions following that incident.

She denies hitting the fellow police officer but accepts a charge of misconduct for breaching her bail.

The misconduct hearing continues.

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Wisconsin man accused of impersonating US Border Patrol agent twice in one week

A Wisconsin man has been charged with identity theft and impersonating a peace officer after prosecutors say he was caught posing as a U.S. Border Patrol agent twice in one week.

According to the Waukesha County District Attorney's Office, prosecutors charged 34-year-old Hank Glembin of New Berlin with two counts of identity theft and two counts of impersonating a peace officer after he claimed to be a U.S. Border Patrol agent on two occasions in January.

In the complaint, obtained by FOX 6 Milwaukee, on Jan. 25, a Muskego police officer was responding to a deer that had been struck by a truck when Glembin pulled up and asked the officer if she needed assistance.

The officer then asked Glembin if he was with the Muskego Department of Public Works and declined Glembin's offer of help, according to the complaint. Glembin then told the officer, "I'm off duty right now. I'm with Border Patrol."

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...well that's easy for a billionaire to say as your tariffs have pretty much zero impact on your billionaire life...

Tell that to those poor rednecks in the south that were dumb enough to vote for you... :idiot2:

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