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General Category => General Discussion => Topic started by: hmgROCK on October 17, 2018, 01:10:42 PM
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so last week, we saw that hurricane in florida
it look like a bomb went off
the year before that, houston texas was underwater
UN scientist say that we have till like the year 2030 to change
otherwise, we going see some pretty nasty stuff
including even more powerful hurricane
so this got me thinking
what are you willing to give up/do?
maybe get rid of that truck??
swimming pool??
material?
take less vacation?
me, i try to buy as little stuff as i can
unlike some of the PH member here
my garage has almost nothing, bareborn
my last vacation was last decemeber
i probably won't fly/travel again for another year
flying/traveling= jet fuel and etc..
p=pebhmong
no, i did not remove all my tool just so i can take a pic
to prove a point
i really don't have anything
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I'm going to buy them abandoned bunker and resell it when chit hits the ceiling. 100x the pricing upselling.
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Plus it is a good time to buy them real estate from people who had enough of these canes. Buy for cheap and when the weather is beautiful again, sell them high.
I'm sure some wants out.
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Plus it is a good time to buy them real estate from people who had enough of these canes. Buy for cheap and when the weather is beautiful again, sell them high.
I'm sure some wants out.
you can have all the money in the world
but if the
earth is scorch
it will be a desert
we will all be dead
kinda like MARS
just trying to get people to change
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https://www.propertyshark.com/homes/US/Cheap-Homes-For-Sale/FL.html (https://www.propertyshark.com/homes/US/Cheap-Homes-For-Sale/FL.html)
30k for a mobile home in Tampa can be had.
Get a contract with foster farm and they will send you chicks for you to power raise. They pick up in 3 months and cut you a check. The eggs is yours to keep and that is an easy flip as well.
This is how you can come up over there.
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why bother living in a house that consumes energy.......????? and don't give me that nonsense of, oh, but, I live alone. or just me and the honey.... cardboard box outside if you must put this thread up.
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why bother living in a house that consumes energy.......????? and don't give me that nonsense of, oh, but, I live alone. or just me and the honey.... cardboard box outside if you must put this thread up.
i think you are being kinda of ignorant
this is just about making changes in your lifestyles
don't mean give up taking a shower every night
but.....maybe
a quick 2-3 minutes shower
washing the important part of the body
maybe instead of 3 vacation
do 2 or 1
ANYWAYS
THIS IS MY RENEWABLE BAG
STOP USING PLASTIC BAG A LONG TIME AGO
PIC OR IT DIDN'T HAPPEN
P=PEBHMONG
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so, you're those guys that tells people to do what they say and not what they do.
you're one funny guy.
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so, you're those guys that tells people to do what they say and not what they do.
you're one funny guy.
no
if you read my title
i specific say "reduce" in there
not fully taken it out
you going need a house to live and etc..
im saying maybe a small house
depending on your size, so you use less engery
im not the one saying live in a cardboard
im saying maybe if there just you and your wife
maybe a 1-2 bedroom
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so, you're those guys that tells people to do what they say and not what they do.
you're one funny guy.
That's how frauds operate...no wonder they have no shame stealing from the poor...
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let's all get here, first
easy to do
just a renewable bag
O0 O0 O0 O0 O0
i say what i do
unlike some
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no! ;D
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up to you
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DOESN'T MATTER WHAT YOU DO DUMB-DUMB, AS LONG AS YOU ARE STILL CONSUMING S.HIT THAT YOU DON'T PRODUCE YOURSELF.
DO YOU GROW YOUR OWN COTTON AND MAKE YOUR OWN FABRIC TO MAKE YOUR OWN CLOTHES? DO YOU OWN YOUR OWN LIVESTOCK TO BUTCHER FOR MEAT?
DO YOU HAVE YOUR OWN PATCH OF WOODS TO MILL AND PRODUCE PAPER PRODUCTS, TO BUILD YOUR OWN HOUSE, ETC?
As long as you depend on MASS PRODUCTION then you have already consumed too much. It takes a lot of energy and resources to mass produce goods and then ship them to consumers. Do you know how many products are being mass produced and then shipped in and out of cities/states/countries by the hour?
A global market especially does NOT help reduce consumption. The ability to buy a product off Amazon from a seller who is not local further contributes to consumption.
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DOESN'T MATTER WHAT YOU DO DUMB-DUMB, AS LONG AS YOU ARE STILL CONSUMING S.HIT THAT YOU DON'T PRODUCE YOURSELF.
DO YOU GROW YOUR OWN COTTON AND MAKE YOUR OWN FABRIC TO MAKE YOUR OWN CLOTHES? DO YOU OWN YOUR OWN LIVESTOCK TO BUTCHER FOR MEAT?
DO YOU HAVE YOUR OWN PATCH OF WOODS TO MILL AND PRODUCE PAPER PRODUCTS, TO BUILD YOUR OWN HOUSE, ETC?
As long as you depend on MASS PRODUCTION then you have already consumed too much. It takes a lot of energy and resources to mass produce goods and then ship them to consumers. Do you know how many products are being mass produced and then shipped in and out of cities/states/countries by the hour?
A global market especially does NOT help reduce consumption. The ability to buy a product off Amazon from a seller who is not local further contributes to consumption.
Lol
Let me tell you about the law of
SUPPLY AND DEMAND
the reason why they mass produced (SUPPLY)
Is because people keep buying not one but multiple stuff (DEMAND)
All I’m saying is reduce your stuff (DEMAND)
Stop buying so much stuff (SUPPLY)
than they will stop making soo much stuff (SUPPLY) and cause pollution
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Let me tell you about the law of
SUPPLY AND DEMAND
Dude doesn't even know why guys like Lebron and Rodgers get pay so much more than their team mates even though it's common knowledge yet he's going to tell us about "SUPPLY AND DEMAND"... ;D
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DOESN'T MATTER WHAT YOU DO DUMB-DUMB, AS LONG AS YOU ARE STILL CONSUMING S.HIT THAT YOU DON'T PRODUCE YOURSELF.
DO YOU GROW YOUR OWN COTTON AND MAKE YOUR OWN FABRIC TO MAKE YOUR OWN CLOTHES? DO YOU OWN YOUR OWN LIVESTOCK TO BUTCHER FOR MEAT?
DO YOU HAVE YOUR OWN PATCH OF WOODS TO MILL AND PRODUCE PAPER PRODUCTS, TO BUILD YOUR OWN HOUSE, ETC?
As long as you depend on MASS PRODUCTION then you have already consumed too much. It takes a lot of energy and resources to mass produce goods and then ship them to consumers. Do you know how many products are being mass produced and then shipped in and out of cities/states/countries by the hour?
A global market especially does NOT help reduce consumption. The ability to buy a product off Amazon from a seller who is not local further contributes to consumption.
Lol
Let me tell you about the law of
SUPPLY AND DEMAND
the reason why they mass produced (SUPPLY)
Is because people keep buying not one but multiple stuff (DEMAND)
All I’m saying is reduce your stuff (DEMAND)
Stop buying so much stuff (SUPPLY)
than they will stop making soo much stuff (SUPPLY) and cause pollution
LOVE IT!!! ;D O0
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I think you are off.
I grew up with wearing socks until there is a hole in it. Mommy dearest be like.... How is the economy going to thrive if everyone conserve like you do?
She has a point.
The issue here is not conserving but to buy smarter. Voice your opinions or go on protest and boycott a company until they make changes to their products and packaging materials.
I also hold a degree in PKG eng at sjsu by the way. All they drilled us daily is to recycle and conserve but recycling may uses more synergy.
R&d has to think about the costing prices vs the environmental factors vs consumers taste vs all sorts of other angles involved like regulation and if selling global, how will such country handles their waste particles.
Germany at one time took our exports and ship us back the packaging materials because they have no answer for it.
I did saw biodegradable packaging materials but the cost will be baked into the pricing and consumers may not be down in buying such products if the pricing is not as sound.
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Just remember that if you boycott companies and stop mass production, you will be literally destroying the lives of those who work in the industries.
Many Hmong work in production. They need these jobs. Not everybody is e-ja-ma-cated like PHers who are all PhD scholars, doctors, lawyers, and engineers.
Remember, in the words of theking, the Hmong are still very primitive. They need Walmart and Dollar Tree. Not every Hmong has China on their speed dial like theking and can buy cheap crap at wholesale prices.
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Dude doesn't even know why guys like Lebron and Rodgers get pay so much more than their team mates even though it's common knowledge yet he's going to tell us about "SUPPLY AND DEMAND"... ;D
Lol
The law of SUPPLY AND DEMAND don’t work in sports
It’s funny how you always trying to start a fight
Throwing the first punch
If you play football fantasy
You will know
Players have VALUE instead
It’s how much they think they are worth
For example: DENVER OFFER COLIN KEAPNICK SONETHING LIKE $10m/ year
But he say no. He want more. Etc... a lot is just players value and politics...
Reason why DEZ BYRANT is still got no job
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Just remember that if you boycott companies and stop mass production, you will be literally destroying the lives of those who work in the industries.
Many Hmong work in production. They need these jobs. Not everybody is e-ja-ma-cated like PHers who are all PhD scholars, doctors, lawyers, and engineers.
Remember, in the words of theking, the Hmong are still very primitive. They need Walmart and Dollar Tree. Not every Hmong has China on their speed dial like theking and can buy cheap crap at wholesale prices.
Its our work and reward system
It’s broken
You work 40 hours/week straight to the welfare office
Something is broken
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Lol
The law of SUPPLY AND DEMAND don’t work in sports
It’s funny how you always trying to start a fight
Throwing the first punch
If you play football fantasy
You will know
Players have VALUE instead
It’s how much they think they are worth
For example: DENVER OFFER COLIN KEAPNICK SONETHING LIKE $10m/ year
But he say no. He want more. Etc... a lot is just players value and politics...
Reason why DEZ BYRANT is still got no job
Yes it does but I don't expect you to comprehend even though numerous PH members have already tried to explain to you...Do you volunteer to pick last at every position when you select your "Fantasy Football Team"?
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Just remember that if you boycott companies and stop mass production, you will be literally destroying the lives of those who work in the industries.
Many Hmong work in production. They need these jobs. Not everybody is e-ja-ma-cated like PHers who are all PhD scholars, doctors, lawyers, and engineers.
Remember, in the words of theking, the Hmong are still very primitive. They need Walmart and Dollar Tree. Not every Hmong has China on their speed dial like theking and can buy cheap crap at wholesale prices.
you come here on forum
saying trump won the president
so you won
ok
that's great!!!
but that's it?
you won because trump won??
you still poor
you haven't even won anything
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You work 40 hours/week straight to the welfare office
NOPE, not for most...most Americans work "40 hours/week" and never need to go "straight to the welfare office"...You on the other hand purposely work less than 20 hours a week because you rather steal from the poor's resources instead...i.e.,"food stamps"..
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Just remember that if you boycott companies and stop mass production, you will be literally destroying the lives of those who work in the industries.
Many Hmong work in production. They need these jobs. Not everybody is e-ja-ma-cated like PHers who are all PhD scholars, doctors, lawyers, and engineers.
Remember, in the words of theking, the Hmong are still very primitive. They need Walmart and Dollar Tree. Not every Hmong has China on their speed dial like theking and can buy cheap crap at wholesale prices.
you come here on forum
saying trump won the president
so you won
ok
that's great!!!
but that's it?
you won because trump won??
you still poor
you haven't even won anything
LOVE IT!!! ;D ;D ;D
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Just remember that if you boycott companies and stop mass production, you will be literally destroying the lives of those who work in the industries.
Many Hmong work in production. They need these jobs. Not everybody is e-ja-ma-cated like PHers who are all PhD scholars, doctors, lawyers, and engineers.
Remember, in the words of theking, the Hmong are still very primitive. They need Walmart and Dollar Tree. Not every Hmong has China on their speed dial like theking and can buy cheap crap at wholesale prices.
You don't have to look far. Conservation is something that is quote unquote, not an Asian thing. Our
Nets in the motherland are bigger every year and the catches are smaller. Baby infant Frys, we take them all.
Here in the USA, Hmong or viets or azn who don't care or have that old school of thought will catch a freezer load if given the opportunity to harvest their catch.
So when ask if we care about global climate by reduce and recycle, the nos have said it. Just look up from previous replies.
Less than 5% azn in my graduating class and lesser in the geological study department.
Just like how Cali had our drought. The azn i know don't care to conserve. They still let their lawn turn yellow but still showers daily and their backyard is still green cuz our azn vegetables are more important. We only stopped cuz they raised the prices of water. Our mentality is simple. Worse comes to worse, the white man will find a way to bail us all out.
Like there is a saying by me.... You want to catch and release? Go right ahead. I'll be at the bottom of the river to catch and eat your fish.
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I looked into the research, and YES, the climate change is REAL, and been real since the ice age. YES, human being are A contributing factor...BUT, we don't know if the world is going to end in 2030 because of human. What we do know is more fossil fuel is being burned and whatever America do won't change that India, China, SE Asian, and LATAM are adding to the carbon footprint.
STOP...the world is not ending. The Climate Change people are stealing from the Fundamentalist Christians...w hen 2030 come and go, everyone is going to laugh at all the morons like they did with all the moronic fundamentalist Christians who said Y2K was the end of the world. Scientists are being use as a political tool to change the business environment. That's it. I know this because policy maker will support scientists to get the policy they need to be enacted for their personal gains.
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Reduce or eliminate meat consumption will help a lot.
Reduce traveling by car or air.
Don't buy anything new. Don't eat process food.
Live in a very small house to reduce heating and cooling cost.
Recycle when you can.
Educate your friends and neighbors.
I think that's the best you can do. I do most of the above.
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Reduce or eliminate meat consumption will help a lot.
Reduce traveling by car or air.
Don't buy anything new. Don't eat process food.
Live in a very small house to reduce heating and cooling cost.
Recycle when you can.
Educate your friends and neighbors.
I think that's the best you can do. I do most of the above.
awesome
right on brother...
i like to add one more to that list
9. travel less vacation outta state/country, limit to maybe once a year. flying, jet fuel, hotel, services, etc...
all those are really bad for the environment
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Also like add: less faking sick to drive to a fishing spot and over fished then make the big freezers in the garage do all the work afterwards...s toring it...That's a lot of unnecessary energy consumption right there.. ;D ;)
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i like to add one more to that list
9. travel less vacation outta state/country, limit to maybe once a year. flying, jet fuel, hotel, services, etc...
all those are really bad for the environment
That's like saying, don't shower every night.
A more effective way of doing it without sacrificing your vacation is simply be more efficient .instead of driving through a couple states, just fly instead, that way you're not using any fuel. Instead of staying at friends or relatives, rent a hotel room, that way you use less energy from the friends and family's house.
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Also like add: less faking sick to drive to a fishing spot and over fished then make the big freezers in the garage do all the work afterwards...s toring it...That's a lot of unnecessary energy consumption right there.. ;D ;)
Many climate advocates are exactly like that. Climate change only matters when you vote at the booth and have to take a political stance. Besides that, most climate advocates are not willing to have a RADICAL CHANGE in their HABITS or LIFESTYLE to be CONSISTENT with their BELIEF. Like many Christians, many Climate advocates are mostly hypocrites. Like most Christians, Climate advocate is really about belonging and almost always about convenience.
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Also like add: less faking sick to drive to a fishing spot and over fished then make the big freezers in the garage do all the work afterwards...s toring it...That's a lot of unnecessary energy consumption right there.. ;D ;)
Errr.... wrong
These fish are EVERYWHERE here
It’s a consider a Pest fish
Soo many of them
It use as fertilizer
All local
No need to for long distance
How bout you fill that pool with dirt and plant an orange tree
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That's like saying, don't shower every night.
A more effective way of doing it without sacrificing your vacation is simply be more efficient .instead of driving through a couple states, just fly instead, that way you're not using any fuel. Instead of staying at friends or relatives, rent a hotel room, that way you use less energy from the friends and family's house.
I’m not saying don’t take shower
But “limit”
Something like every other day, maybe one minute shower
It might actually be cheaper and eco friendly if you drive
Especially if you have a hybrid or electric cars
A plane like a Boeing 747 uses approximately 1 gallon of fuel (about 4 liters) every second. Over the course of a 10-hour flight, it might burn 36,000 gallons (150,000 liters). According to Boeing's Web site, the 747 burns approximately 5 gallons of fuel per mile (12 liters per kilometer
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Again like I say
Maybe less outta state leisure
And more local
Aka less than one hours
Up to you
Oil/gas/fuel etc... ain’t renewable
Just a matter of time till it run out
Might not be our life time
But it will
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Errr.... wrong
These fish are EVERYWHERE here
It’s a consider a Pest fish
Soo many of them
It use as fertilizer
All local
No need to for long distance
How bout you fill that pool with dirt and plant an orange tree
"Errr.... wrong"
Do you drive to the fishing spots and does your freezers utilize energy??
"How bout" you stop stealing from the poor's public resources shamelessly... and earned your living...
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It might actually be cheaper and eco friendly if you drive
Especially if you have a hybrid or electric cars
A plane like a Boeing 747 uses approximately 1 gallon of fuel (about 4 liters) every second. Over the course of a 10-hour flight, it might burn 36,000 gallons (150,000 liters). According to Boeing's Web site, the 747 burns approximately 5 gallons of fuel per mile (12 liters per kilometer
You're wrong about that.
It doesn't matter if you're driving a regular or hybrid car, you're still using more fuel than flying. If you choose to fly, you're using zero amount of fuel. How is this possible? Simple, it's not about calculating how much fuel a car use vs an airplane. There's no math involved, just simple logic. All those numbers that you pulled from Boeing's website is irrelevant.
When you drive, YOU are using fuel. When you fly, the airline company is using the fuel. And regardless if you are on the plane or not, it's going to fly somewhere. So basically what you're doing is hitching on a free ride (in regards to you actually using the fuel yourself).
I’m not saying don’t take shower
But “limit”
Something like every other day, maybe one minute shower
That's not what you first said.
i think you are being kinda of ignorant
this is just about making changes in your lifestyles
don't mean give up taking a shower every night
but.....maybe
a quick 2-3 minutes shower
washing the important part of the body
Shower = vacation
Shower every night = vacation 3 times a year
So .....
Don't go on vacation 3 times a year = don't take a shower every night
But, let's do what you said and limit the shower time to 2-3 minutes, results in you using less water. So flying 2-3 hrs instead of driving several times longer, results in you using less fuel.
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Again like I say
Maybe less outta state leisure
And more local
Aka less than one hours
Up to you
Oil/gas/fuel etc... ain’t renewable
Just a matter of time till it run out
Might not be our life time
But it will
So it comes down to, don't go fishing at your favorite spot, instead just go fishing in your back yard.
You do realize that people take showers for a particular reason. Same as people take vacation for a particular reason.
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So it comes down to, don't go fishing at your favorite spot, instead just go fishing in your back yard.
You do realize that people take showers for a particular reason. Same as people take vacation for a particular reason.
Our PH members: reporter wants me to go fish in North Dakota
I told him we got plenty of fish here in Wisconsin
Yes in your backyard/local area
If you treat your land and water right
It will provide all you need
The native Americans know this
This mean keeping a balance check of fish
You might have to take out the populated fish so others may live
For the shower.
Maybe 2-3 minutes
I personally do 1.5 min
Smell great, got all the important thing wash
Look clean
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all jokes a side.......I do what I can. But, climate change is happening everyday, right now. and it'll still gonna happen after you and I are long gone.
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I know you mentioned about driving less on one of your post, and I said if you want to make a difference eat less meat. Or cut it out of your diet completely. It doesn’t matter how little you drive, a person eating meat cause more damage. I help my mom with gardening, there’s plenty of organic fruits and veggies in her garden for the family. I cut out all meat and dairy product from my diet, I’m a minimalist, only buy things I need. I’m guilty of taking too many showers and traveling. But again, you want to make a difference? Stop eating meat. Here’s a little clip of the article for you to read:
Yes, driving cars is no good, but meat production is unexpectedly worse for the environment. Besides all of the fertilizer and cow waste products that release methane, meat unfortunately has to be transported in refrigerated trucks from feedlots to slaughterhouse s to processing centers to your local grocery store. In this way, factory farming combines all of the harmful effects of driving an 18 wheeler, plus some.
yes, you are right on the meat part
not sure if you saw my previous post
but my diet consist of mostly fish and deer
stuff you find naturally in the world
by taking good care of our environment
white bass are consider a pest fish here
lots of them here
it complete and kill many of the other fish, so i only target this species
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staying true to my belief, i only shore fish
you can catch alot of them
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letter spell Ph=pebhmong
so you know im legit
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fish smell PH=pebhmong
so you know im legit
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i got a garden that i do in the summer time here
kinda of hard with the snow
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look at all these foods, man
i even forgot to check, some of them start going bad
(https://i.imgur.com/A3E5Hi4.jpg)
delicious, nothing like fresh tomatoes
(https://i.imgur.com/fO3egBy.jpg)
too much, talking
let's start doing
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Maybe you can afford to be a climate changer but poor folks can't.
Sounds like those that admitted they are "flat broke" alright... ;D ;D ;D