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Relationship => Marriage & Family Life => Topic started by: Yebleng on October 16, 2019, 06:57:21 PM
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I heard that he was dating another Yang sister and social media its not to happy about it. My honest opinion? I think its okay as long as they're not blood related. Grand parents, uncles, aunts, and cousins from the same tree and branch. I never understood it when I was younger and I still don't understand the taboo behind it now if they're perfect strangers. They are both adults and I trust that they know what they're doing. People have the right to do whatever they want to as long as they're happy.
https://youtu.be/DRC365aIREw
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My families, relatives and some friends never really believe in that belief either and I definitely don't. For some folks, it's NOT ok for two non-blood related strangers to hook up just because they share the same last name but it's ok for two blood related family members to hook up... :idiot2:
Like the Chinese and Koreans, Hmong that still believe in that irrelevant belief needs to drop it and move forward too IMO.
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I'm a Yang and there's a belief that the Yang clan can't eat the heart of animals and again my families, other Yang relatives just laugh at that... ;D
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I'm a Yang and there's a belief that the Yang clan can't eat the heart of animals and again my families, other Yang relatives just laugh at that... ;D
I have a friend who is a Yang. He eats the hearts of chickens, pigs, cows, and deers, every day. He is in every perfect shape and form O0
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Here they are. Seem pretty happy.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uqXZkNpJgxo (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uqXZkNpJgxo)
I heard that he was dating another Yang sister and social media its not to happy about it. My honest opinion? I think its okay as long as they're not blood related. Grand parents, uncles, aunts, and cousins from the same tree and branch. I never understood it when I was younger and I still don't understand the taboo behind it now if they're perfect strangers. They are both adults and I trust that they know what they're doing. People have the right to do whatever they want to as long as they're happy.
https://youtu.be/DRC365aIREw (https://youtu.be/DRC365aIREw)
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Haven't you heard? Txaj txaj muag face cov laus na has....
There's a video on that. I just don't have the time to go look it up.
I heard that he was dating another Yang sister and social media its not to happy about it. My honest opinion? I think its okay as long as they're not blood related. Grand parents, uncles, aunts, and cousins from the same tree and branch. I never understood it when I was younger and I still don't understand the taboo behind it now if they're perfect strangers. They are both adults and I trust that they know what they're doing. People have the right to do whatever they want to as long as they're happy.
https://youtu.be/DRC365aIREw
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Haven't you heard? Txaj txaj muag face cov laus na has....
There's a video on that. I just don't have the time to go look it up.
post the video ;D
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it doesnt happen too often but hmong people has been dating/marrying same last name for as long as i can remember, i known a few people who marry the same last name and they're doing great
Me personally i dont really care as long as its not blood related, everyone is just jumping on the hating bandwagon, i betcha if it was any other regular hmong peeps people wouldn't care
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Its like the gay/lesbian community. I don't support it, but if is what makes you happy, go for it. Don't push it onto others to for your choices. Just because we don't speak of it, it doesn't mean that we have accept it.
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their life, their choice.
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Ewwww bro
Thats TABOO
She’s like your sister
Lol
That’s how you get cyclops baby yo
(https://thenypost.files.wordpress.com/2014/03/haroldkumar-415x215.jpg?quality=80&strip=all&w=415&h=215&crop=1)
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Ewwww bro
Thats TABOO
She’s like your sister
Lol
That’s how you get cyclops baby yo
So ignorant but NOT surprised... ;D ;D ;D
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Its science
Once you start inbreeding within the family
You start getting all these genetic problems
Just take a look at the monarch era
Tons of inbreeding
Inbreeding results in homozygosity, which can increase the chances of offspring being affected by deleterious or recessive traits.[3] This usually leads to at least temporarily decreased biological fitness of a population[4][5] (called inbreeding depression), which is its ability to survive and reproduce. An individual who inherits such deleterious traits is colloquially referred to as inbred. The avoidance of expression of such deleterious recessive alleles caused by inbreeding, via inbreeding avoidance mechanisms, is the main selective reason for outcrossing
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Its science
Once you start inbreeding within the family
You start getting all these genetic problems
Just take a look at the monarch era
Tons of inbreeding
Inbreeding results in homozygosity, which can increase the chances of offspring being affected by deleterious or recessive traits.[3] This usually leads to at least temporarily decreased biological fitness of a population[4][5] (called inbreeding depression), which is its ability to survive and reproduce. An individual who inherits such deleterious traits is colloquially referred to as inbred. The avoidance of expression of such deleterious recessive alleles caused by inbreeding, via inbreeding avoidance mechanisms, is the main selective reason for outcrossing
com'on bro. Be real...I know you're just fishing for attention and baiting for debates with theking ;D
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Its science
Once you start inbreeding within the family
You start getting all these genetic problems
Just take a look at the monarch era
Tons of inbreeding
Inbreeding results in homozygosity, which can increase the chances of offspring being affected by deleterious or recessive traits.[3] This usually leads to at least temporarily decreased biological fitness of a population[4][5] (called inbreeding depression), which is its ability to survive and reproduce. An individual who inherits such deleterious traits is colloquially referred to as inbred. The avoidance of expression of such deleterious recessive alleles caused by inbreeding, via inbreeding avoidance mechanisms, is the main selective reason for outcrossing
You missed the part: *non-blood related* strangers ...that happens to share the same last names...
The Chinese and Koreans used to believe in 'no same last name hook up' too but they got smart, move forward and dropped that belief decades ago..
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com'on bro. Be real...I know you're just fishing for attention and baiting for debates with theking ;D
bro,
just google it if you don't believe me
these monarch king (forgot what his name was)
when he gets a cut, he just bleed nonstop
that genetic from years and years of in house inbreeding
plus you get weird looking babies
IT"S SCIENCE
(https://i2.wp.com/www.dailygossip.ng/wp-content/uploads/2017/01/distres.png)
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bro,
just google it if you don't believe me
these monarch king (forgot what his name was)
when he gets a cut, he just bleed nonstop
that genetic from years and years of in house inbreeding
plus you get weird looking babies
IT"S SCIENCE
(http://<img src="https://i2-prod.mirror.co.uk/incoming/article9676923.ece/ALTERNATES/s615b/PAY-Strange-alien-baby-born-in-India.jpg" alt="Image result for alien baby"/>)
You missed the point because in this case, they are NOT blood related..
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google if you don't believe me
inhouse inbreeding cause genetic deform where their body can't stop the bleeding
Prince Leopold, Duke of Albany: Queen Victoria’s son—died at the age of 31 after a brain hemorrhage caused by a fall
Prince Friedrich of Hesse and by Rhine: Queen Victoria’s 2.5-year-old grandson—died of a cerebral hemorrhage from a fall out of a window because his body could not stop bleeding internally
Prince Waldemar of Prussia:Queen Victoria’s great-grandson—died in 1945 while awaiting a blood transfusion during World War II
Lord Leopold Mountbatten: Queen Victoria’s great-grandson—died on the operating table during hip surgery at the age of 32
Prince Heinrich of Prussia: Great-grandson of Queen Victoria through his mother and father—died at the age of 4 following a fall
Infante Alfonso and Gonzalo of Spain: Queen Victoria’s great-grandsons—both died after car accidents they could have survived had they not had hemophilia; Alfonso was 31 and Gonzalo was 19
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That's why I said, some Hmong folks are against non-blood related strangers hooking up just because they share the same last name but are OK with blood related family members hooking up just because they have different last names.
So in terms of genetic issues, the blood related family members with different last names couples actually have a higher chance of having offspring with genetic defect..
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google if you don't believe me
inhouse inbreeding cause genetic deform where their body can't stop the bleeding
Prince Leopold, Duke of Albany: Queen Victoria’s son—died at the age of 31 after a brain hemorrhage caused by a fall
Prince Friedrich of Hesse and by Rhine: Queen Victoria’s 2.5-year-old grandson—died of a cerebral hemorrhage from a fall out of a window because his body could not stop bleeding internally
Prince Waldemar of Prussia:Queen Victoria’s great-grandson—died in 1945 while awaiting a blood transfusion during World War II
Lord Leopold Mountbatten: Queen Victoria’s great-grandson—died on the operating table during hip surgery at the age of 32
Prince Heinrich of Prussia: Great-grandson of Queen Victoria through his mother and father—died at the age of 4 following a fall
Infante Alfonso and Gonzalo of Spain: Queen Victoria’s great-grandsons—both died after car accidents they could have survived had they not had hemophilia; Alfonso was 31 and Gonzalo was 19
these examples are all ***blood relative*** family members so your point failed again..
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IT"S FREAKIN SCIENCE MAN
just google if you don't believe me
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BlY3ctNeqP0 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BlY3ctNeqP0)
(https://m.media-amazon.com/images/M/MV5BYWMxNTNiZmQtNjExNS00ZWMzLTlhMWItOWRiOGRjMTJhOTJjXkEyXkFqcGdeQXVyNzU1NzE3NTg@._V1_.jpg)
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So theKing wants to marry his sister and he'd like everyone to feel okay about it. :2funny: :2funny:
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So theKing wants to marry his sister and he'd like everyone to feel okay about it. :2funny: :2funny:
bro
that's TABOO
going get weird looking babies
he's probably one of them inbreeding result
lol
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IT"S FREAKIN SCIENCE MAN
just google if you don't believe me
"IT'S FREAKIN" ***non-blood related*** case "MAN"..
Can't comprehend that point then it's another EPIC FAIL on your part..
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So theKing wants to marry his sister and he'd like everyone to feel okay about it. :2funny: :2funny:
Oh look came crawling back and making stuff up like his fellow member of their narrow minded ignorant clique, BNM...JUST TO PROVE ME RIGHT (once again)..just because he married his own "sister"..
Yeah I know I know.. it's the heavy foam from being proven wrong with facts years ago. I'm sure YAK tried really hard to abide by his words ("ignore") but when his foam takes over he's as worthless as his words...No wonder he shares similar traits with BNM and Trump (yeah same guy he's in love with according to another PH member)..
AND YEP, HE'LL CRAWL BACK TO PROVE ME RIGHT BECAUSE HE'S WORTHLESS LIKE THAT, WATCH!! ;D ;D ;D O0
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bro
that's TABOO
going get weird looking babies
he's probably one of them inbreeding result
lol
It is "TABOO" when you are getting it on with your own "mommy" in her "basement".."lol"
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It is "TABOO" when you are getting it on with your own "mommy" in her "basement".."lol"
lol damn dude
no wonder your daughter look like your mom
doing that dirty deed with your mommy
hahahah
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com'on bro. Be real...I know you're just fishing for attention and baiting for debates with theking ;D
lol, I would say the same thing.
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lol damn dude
no wonder your daughter look like your mom
doing that dirty deed with your mommy
hahahah
"lol damn dude
no wonder you" continue to live in your "mommy's basement"..."doing that dirty deed with your mommy"
"hahahah"
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Bro, why do you use the genetic argument when you know our culture historically have promoted 1st and 2nd cousin marriage of different last name. In addition, the mitochondria are carried through the woman and not the man, and so two sisters who marry different last name and their kids marrying is exactly what our culture have historically promoted, and that's bad genetically. So there is no scientific basis for what you are saying about a Yang marrying another Yang who is NOT close genetically. Get over it.
Just a FYI - the Vietnamese dealt with this long time ago because Nguyen was so many they started to allow non-related Nguyen to marry. The Vietnamese use science to rationalize why this was acceptable. Hmong people should think more clearly with science versus use science to drive their agenda like you are.
Its science
Once you start inbreeding within the family
You start getting all these genetic problems
Just take a look at the monarch era
Tons of inbreeding
Inbreeding results in homozygosity, which can increase the chances of offspring being affected by deleterious or recessive traits.[3] This usually leads to at least temporarily decreased biological fitness of a population[4][5] (called inbreeding depression), which is its ability to survive and reproduce. An individual who inherits such deleterious traits is colloquially referred to as inbred. The avoidance of expression of such deleterious recessive alleles caused by inbreeding, via inbreeding avoidance mechanisms, is the main selective reason for outcrossing
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Bro, why do you use the genetic argument when you know our culture historically have promoted 1st and 2nd cousin marriage of different last name. In addition, the mitochondria are carried through the woman and not the man, and so two sisters who marry different last name and their kids marrying is exactly what our culture have historically promoted, and that's bad genetically. So there is no scientific basis for what you are saying about a Yang marrying another Yang who is NOT close genetically. Get over it.
Just a FYI - the Vietnamese dealt with this long time ago because Nguyen was so many they started to allow non-related Nguyen to marry. The Vietnamese use science to rationalize why this was acceptable. Hmong people should think more clearly with science versus use science to drive their agenda like you are.
c'mon man
it' science
if you have
man with X disease
woman with the same X disease
the chances of your offspring having X disease INCREASES
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Bro, why do you use the genetic argument when you know our culture historically have promoted 1st and 2nd cousin marriage of different last name. In addition, the mitochondria are carried through the woman and not the man, and so two sisters who marry different last name and their kids marrying is exactly what our culture have historically promoted, and that's bad genetically. So there is no scientific basis for what you are saying about a Yang marrying another Yang who is NOT close genetically. Get over it.
Just a FYI - the Vietnamese dealt with this long time ago because Nguyen was so many they started to allow non-related Nguyen to marry. The Vietnamese use science to rationalize why this was acceptable. Hmong people should think more clearly with science versus use science to drive their agenda like you are.
exactly O0
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david yang responded
https://youtu.be/SdtrsnurbKI
what Yall haters have to say now besides the same o crap
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So, why do we point fingers at David Yang only? What about Gloria Yang? :2funny: :2funny: :2funny:
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So, I saw the girl, obviously he's dating becuase of the girl looks.
And not to be mean but he doesnt look all that good so I can understand why he would say yes to any good looking girl who would like him.
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Nothing new, some Yangs and Vangs families do practice same last name marriages. Majority of the Yangs and Vangs do not. As far as any other Hmong last names, haven’t heard or seen it yet, likely much smaller % than the Yangs or Vangs. I’m thinking that David Yang and his gf could possibly be from that Yang clan.
Those that do practice should know “all” your cousins. Which brings me to one story I’ve heard. A brother and sister orphaned and separated during the war at a young age found love and marriage later on in life. Not until one of their children was sick that modern medicine determined the couple are from same parents.
Signs of the time, if Hmong boys and girls can hook up with the same sex, last name marriages will be more common in the near future.
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c'mon man
it' science
if you have
man with X disease
woman with the same X disease
the chances of your offspring having X disease INCREASES
Using your argument, David Yang has X disease and Gloria Yang does not have X disease. Therefore David and Gloria's offspring will unlikely to have X disease. Now if David Yang has X disease and Gloria Vang has X disease because they are 1st cousin, their offsprings will likely have X disease.
I just love how you use your pseudoscience to push your narratives without knowing the real details.
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Nothing new, some Yangs and Vangs families do practice same last name marriages. Majority of the Yangs and Vangs do not. As far as any other Hmong last names, haven’t heard or seen it yet, likely much smaller % than the Yangs or Vangs. I’m thinking that David Yang and his gf could possibly be from that Yang clan.
Those that do practice should know “all” your cousins. Which brings me to one story I’ve heard. A brother and sister orphaned and separated during the war at a young age found love and marriage later on in life. Not until one of their children was sick that modern medicine determined the couple are from same parents.
Signs of the time, if Hmong boys and girls can hook up with the same sex, last name marriages will be more common in the near future.
CG, that's very astute of you to observe that if Gays and Lesbian can marry, then the same last name without relatedness ought not to be an issue. If Hmong can support same-sex marriage, or even ignore the issue, then why not do the same with same last name marriage of non-genetic relationship.
I am for free-choice so if two Yangs regardless of sex, as long as they are not very close genetically, they can go ahead and live the life they want. Why am I against close cousins marrying? Most likely you are going to have down-syndrome kids or then we the community members will have to support you with the medical cost, and that's unfair to us.
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but what I do think is happening is this.
Hmong boy goes to hmong party and goes home empty handed. He then rationalize that if there was a free market where he can date his last name, he would at least score with his half sister.
something like that :2funny:
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Here is my two cent
David is too immature to fully understand what he is doing OR he is straight out a dumb azz. Here is why?
1. We were all young once and when we grow older, wiser and understand life as a whole better, we realized some of the choices we make in life were beyond retard. This is one of them.
2. David have no clue if he is related by blood to this same last name girl or not. He has no access to ALL the Yang family tree and therefore making his judgement based on what is practice freely in America/Western culture. Failing to clearly see that Western ways don’t always apply to Hmong ways. He’s in love and that’s how he going to roll, sister or not (scary based on how a person thinks naively). TBH, none of these Hmong peeps who's dating same last name even do any research. When what's between your legs starts to itch, you just roll and spit out the excuses so your needs can be met. That's the honest truth.
3. Being a well known Hmong person and making bad choices will hurt your reputation in the community. When you do things like this you put yourself in a grey area and you know people will talk bad about you, its given based on the choices you make. Not a wise person IMO, still too stupid if you ask me. Just like when Tee Vang (the singer) posted on social media of him poaching fishes and then he deleted all the pictures after someone flagged him for being so dumb.
4. So one day if David and her decide to call it quits, it will only prove that he wasn't so clear of what he was doing chasing a love he was not even certain about. If I was a Hmong girl (the level headed ones of course), they should be worrying about him trying to date them after this relationship falls apart knowing it's been blasted all over social media like this. His choices would make most mature level headed Hmong women feel disturbing about him.
5. If he’s gone so far as dating the same last name and showing it off on social media without doing his research completely makes me wonder? What kind of a person he really is? What does he think of other girls of the same last name when he is around them? If this doesn't bother him, what else happens behind closed doors at home? The respect level of brother, sister, mother, father, uncle, etc. has no meaning and values to him. As a Hmong person in general, do you trust him around your sister, gf, mom, aunt, etc. because obviously there is no barriers and respect based on his mindset.
Okay, the list goes on but I think I pretty much got this thread locked and deleted lol. When the truth is told, it is too much and be viewed as hate, I get it. That’s why they call it THE UGLY TRUTH.
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I am just perplexed by the amount of people who are unaware about the whole recessive trait and having offsprings with close relatives can lead to deformities, mutations, etc etc.
I thought that was basic biology taught in high school, didnt yalls do that excercise where you do the four square box to figure what would be the dominant trait etc etc?
I guess the quality of school is not so good anymore.
The real victim would be the innocent baby born out of all this and did have some sort of disability. It could have all been prevented.
Im sure all these taboos had thier legitimate reasonings back in the day.
And I think it is sad that some people want to get away from this cultural rule we have. Like someone mentioned earlier, the more we start to let things like this happen and accept it as well the more it will be normal and it will lead to other things as well.
In the future will dating your actual sister be common placed and accepted as well? And so on and so on?
I guess there is no actual harm in dating or fooling around with someone with the last name and if it is not serious but when you have a baby I think that is where the issue is as well.
I feel bad for the kids, think if what the other kids are going to say to them and how the old folks will talk about them. That is alot for those kids to take on especially growing up.
But also! If I was a hater and a rapper as well, whoooooooo he just made himself an easy peasy target!!
Wait, aint Im a rapper too?!?! And a hater?!?!
Anyways, I wonder how all his musician friends think about him?
Oh wells!!
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Here is my two cent
David is too immature to fully understand what he is doing OR he is straight out a dumb azz. Here is why?
Nope, he just has enough common sense to know that there's nothing wrong with two non-blood related strangers that happen the share the same last name hooking up..
2. David have no clue if he is related by blood to this same last name girl or not. He has no access to ALL the Yang family tree and therefore making his judgement based on what is practice freely in America/Western culture. Failing to clearly see that Western ways don’t always apply to Hmong ways. He’s in love and that’s how he going to roll, sister or not (scary based on how a person thinks naively). TBH, none of these Hmong peeps who's dating same last name even do any research. When what's between your legs starts to itch, you just roll and spit out the excuses so your needs can be met. That's the honest truth.
NOPE, no need to "access to ALL the Yang family tree"...if he wants to know if he's related, a simple genetic test will do...
3. Being a well known Hmong person and making bad choices will hurt your reputation in the community. When you do things like this you put yourself in a grey area and you know people will talk bad about you, its given based on the choices you make. Not a wise person IMO, still too stupid if you ask me. Just like when Tee Vang (the singer) posted on social media of him poaching fishes and then he deleted all the pictures after someone flagged him for being so dumb.
Maybe for the insecure one that always need others' approval or live their lives based on what others think instead of doing what's best for them...
4. So one day if David and her decide to call it quits, it will only prove that he wasn't so clear of what he was doing chasing a love he was not even certain about. If I was a Hmong girl (the level headed ones of course), they should be worrying about him trying to date them after this relationship falls apart knowing it's been blasted all over social media like this. His choices would make most mature level headed Hmong women feel disturbing about him.
The "call it quits" point is meh because that can apply to couples with the same or different last names...
5. If he’s gone so far as dating the same last name and showing it off on social media without doing his research completely makes me wonder? What kind of a person he really is? What does he think of other girls of the same last name when he is around them? If this doesn't bother him, what else happens behind closed doors at home? The respect level of brother, sister, mother, father, uncle, etc. has no meaning and values to him. As a Hmong person in general, do you trust him around your sister, gf, mom, aunt, etc. because obviously there is no barriers and respect based on his mindset.
Again if they are not blood related, nothing wrong with it...Certainly not even as close to being as bad as what some Hmong deem OK to practice, blood related family members marrying each other i.e., blood cousins...
Okay, the list goes on but I think I pretty much got this thread locked and deleted lol. When the truth is told, it is too much and be viewed as hate, I get it. That’s why they call it THE UGLY TRUTH.
The "truth" is there's nothing wrong with two non-blood related complete strangers that happen to share the same last name hooking up..
I mean the Chinese and Koreans already stop following that primitive ignorant belief decades ago so it's good to see some Hmong catching up...so they can also move forward from it.. O0
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I am just perplexed by the amount of people who are unaware about the whole recessive trait and having offsprings with close relatives can lead to deformities, mutations, etc etc.
That's why I pointed out stupid some Hmong are for disapproving two non-blood related complete strangers that happen to share to the same last name hooking up but will approve two blood related family members hooking up.. :idiot2:
I thought that was basic biology taught in high school, didnt yalls do that excercise where you do the four square box to figure what would be the dominant trait etc etc?
I guess the quality of school is not so good anymore.
Yep, that's why there's nothing wrong with two non-blood related complete strangers that happen to share the same last name hooking up..I mean the Chinese and Koreans learned this decades ago and dropped that primitive ignorant belief..
The real victim would be the innocent baby born out of all this and did have some sort of disability. It could have all been prevented.
Yep, that's why people that are blood related should not hook up because the chance of genetic defect is higher..
Im sure all these taboos had thier legitimate reasonings back in the day.
And I think it is sad that some people want to get away from this cultural rule we have. Like someone mentioned earlier, the more we start to let things like this happen and accept it as well the more it will be normal and it will lead to other things as well.
Depends if the case involves blood related individuals or not...
In the future will dating your actual sister be common placed and accepted as well? And so on and so on?
I guess there is no actual harm in dating or fooling around with someone with the last name and if it is not serious but when you have a baby I think that is where the issue is as well.
I feel bad for the kids, think if what the other kids are going to say to them and how the old folks will talk about them. That is alot for those kids to take on especially growing up.
Yep, if it's your actual blood related sister then it should not be done because there's a higher chance of genetic birth defect..
But also! If I was a hater and a rapper as well, whoooooooo he just made himself an easy peasy target!!
Wait, aint Im a rapper too?!?! And a hater?!?!
Anyways, I wonder how all his musician friends think about him?
Oh wells!!
Depends if they are the ignorant ones or the ones that have enough common sense to see nothing wrong with two non-blood related complete strangers that happen to share the same last name dating...
I've seen critics as well as supporters..
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theking
You claim he has common sense. Where is the common sense to do his research thoroughly, family tree, genetics (like you said), talk around communities about her family roots, etc? A respectful wise man would cover all his bases right? A man who truly love his girl would do things thoroughly (family tree, genetic, etc) to protect her and the relationship and stop the bashing. Exactly it’s too much work and not important. Seems like you over estimated his common sense qualification. Like I said, these people who claim to have fallen in love with the same last name Hmong girl don’t give two cents crap about doing any research completely because it will defeat the purpose of tapping dat azz to begin with especially if the results don’t come back in your liking. On top of that, a person who does this kind of thing without any dignity and/or stop to think about the repercussions has a disturbing mindset don’t matter how you look at it because that would make a stepmom, stepsister, step-whatever at high risk. Which lead to my conclusion again and again, “I wonder what else goes on behind closed doors” those that think like this.
He better make sure this relationship work out because it would be hard to find a decent good level headed Hmong girl who probably would say, “aren’t you that singer who dated your own same last name”, follow with, “sorry my parents and clan can’t accept that”. Again, a dumb azz NO COMMON SENSE move to date same last name. The repercussion KILLED IT. Don't worry too much tho, although guys who does this might blow their future chances with most level headed Hmong girls, there's still ton of idiots/hoes flooded everywhere. Since doing a thorough research is not important because the D craving is priority, all hope is not lost yet. I'm sure they can still end up with winners who had 10+ bf but never married once. Shhh.......we called these hoes in my time lol.
Anyways, don’t be the person who travels to another state/country met a hot same last name Hmong girl and bang the lights out of that person thinking it’s okay for “two non related strangers” to make out especially in another far away place. Later to find out she was your dad’s brother daughter from another state that you didn’t know about. Like many cases of Hmong dating same last name Hmong, it really has nothing to do with anything but simply the LACK of COMMON SENSE for not doing a thorough research first and being horny af when the opportunity present itself.
Here’s the truth, when someone tells me they are dating the same last name Hmong girl, it automatically tells me that person was in it for the wrong reasons. Everything else is just another excuse to keep banging her because at the moment the banging is so good. NONE and I mean NONE of these people give a crap to do any research because nobody wants a REASON to stop tapping that azz. I see right thru the BS excuses. I use to know someone, who later confessed, it's the banging that got him hooked so the excuses start flying out his mouth. Years later after the drama and confession he even agree that people who do this is doing it for the wrong reason. Funny thing was, I wasn't surprise because people who does shady/on the grey area/bad things will always be in denial at the moment and will find excuses to keep hacking away.
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I have to agree with starchaser here.
The only reason why he dating her is becuse he is just horny.
Nobody here is saying it. Starchaser said it. I was thinking it as well.
He was just horny and when the opportunity presented itself he just took it.
Everything else is just an excuse. He can say he really love her etc etc but deep down inside he just horny. She is a good looking girl I guess(not my type) and yeah, he just wanted to hit that. He will never admit it. He will never say its about the looks and the physical body and her provocativenes s, of course he will say its just love. But how come he aint hooking with a regular looking yang girl?
Truth is, he just wanted to bang that girl. He was turned on, got horny for her, she was willing, or maybe she even seduced him, who knows, but in anycase there was an opportunity and he just wanted to bang her and got his chance. Funny thing is, after sex even some guys catch feelings as it looks like he did and of course mixed with horniness and chance to keep having sex with her, of course he is going to date her.
Also he rumours on the internet is she is carrying his baby.
Like I said, I feel the worst for the kid growing up and having to hear other kids or grown ups talk about his/her parents in that way.
Theres so many other girls out there, just as pretty, prettier, etc etc. How you gonna not just control your horniness and just be smart to pass up on the yang girl. Cmon David yang, just have sex with vangs instead, its almost like a yang, sounds the same, even the y looks like a vang. That actually could be re worded to be a good diss lyric.😂
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What if david yang and gloria is in here reading too?!?!?!
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theking
You claim he has common sense. Where is the common sense to do his research thoroughly, family tree, genetics (like you said), talk around communities about her family roots, etc? A respectful wise man would cover all his bases right? A man who truly love his girl would do things thoroughly (family tree, genetic, etc) to protect her and the relationship and stop the bashing.
They don't have to talk to everyone in the community if they chose not to. If they want to know if they're blood related or not, a simple DNA test would do because not all people that share the same last name are related and more importantly blood related. As far as "bashing" goes, those that will bash for no good reason will still bash doesn't matter if they share the same last name or not..
Exactly it’s too much work and not important. Seems like you over estimated his common sense qualification. Like I said, these people who claim to have fallen in love with the same last name Hmong girl don’t give two cents crap about doing any research completely because it will defeat the purpose of tapping dat azz to begin with especially if the results don’t come back in your liking.
Whether it's important or not depends on them and simply not necessary to do because a simple DNA test can answer their question. If they are not blood related, there's no need to waste time on "research" and that's good enough in regards to "common sense"..
On top of that, a person who does this kind of thing without any dignity and/or stop to think about the repercussions has a disturbing mindset don’t matter how you look at it because that would make a stepmom, stepsister, step-whatever at high risk. Which lead to my conclusion again and again, “I wonder what else goes on behind closed doors” those that think like this.
The thing is there is nothing wrong with two non-blood related complete strangers that happen to share the same last name hooking up.
Now if you're talking about blood related family members such as blood related cousins hooking up that some Hmong approve then I can see your point.
He better make sure this relationship work out because it would be hard to find a decent good level headed Hmong girl who probably would say, “aren’t you that singer who dated your own same last name”, follow with, “sorry my parents and clan can’t accept that”. Again, a dumb azz NO COMMON SENSE move to date same last name. The repercussion KILLED IT. Don't worry too much tho, although guys who does this might blow their future chances with most level headed Hmong girls, there's still ton of idiots/hoes flooded everywhere. Since doing a thorough research is not important because the D craving is priority, all hope is not lost yet. I'm sure they can still end up with winners who had 10+ bf but never married once. Shhh.......we called these hoes in my time lol.
That depends on the "decent good level headed Hmong girl" ...if she believes in the primitive way or the common sense way..
Anyways, don’t be the person who travels to another state/country met a hot same last name Hmong girl and bang the lights out of that person thinking it’s okay for “two non related strangers” to make out especially in another far away place. Later to find out she was your dad’s brother daughter from another state that you didn’t know about. Like many cases of Hmong dating same last name Hmong, it really has nothing to do with anything but simply the LACK of COMMON SENSE for not doing a thorough research first and being horny af when the opportunity present itself.
Still nothing wrong with two non-blood related complete strangers to hook up whether they share the same last name or not..and as far as later to find out she's related to you by blood, that can happen if the two individuals have different last names too so meh...Therefor e, NOPE, NOT "LACK of COMMON SENSE"...as long as they are NOT blood related.
Here’s the truth, when someone tells me they are dating the same last name Hmong girl, it automatically tells me that person was in it for the wrong reasons. Everything else is just another excuse to keep banging her because at the moment the banging is so good. NONE and I mean NONE of these people give a crap to do any research because nobody wants a REASON to stop tapping that azz. I see right thru the BS excuses. I use to know someone, who later confessed, it's the banging that got him hooked so the excuses start flying out his mouth. Years later after the drama and confession he even agree that people who do this is doing it for the wrong reason. Funny thing was, I wasn't surprise because people who does shady/on the grey area/bad things will always be in denial at the moment and will find excuses to keep hacking away.
NOT me because I don't go around assuming they are blood related just because they happen to share the same last name..so it all comes down to they are doing it even though they are aware that they are blood related family members or not...
Because it's simple: there's nothing wrong with non-blood related complete strangers to hook up (same last name or not). The Chinese and Koreans learned this decades ago and have corrected it after being ignorant about it for a long time.
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I have to agree with starchaser here.
The only reason why he dating her is becuse he is just horny.
Nobody here is saying it. Starchaser said it. I was thinking it as well.
He was just horny and when the opportunity presented itself he just took it.
You can agree and yes, they can be "horny" because that applies to pretty much all of humans as it's natural bodily functioning but the bottom is still the same: Nothing wrong with two non-blood related complete strangers hooking up (same last name or not)..
Everything else is just an excuse. He can say he really love her etc etc but deep down inside he just horny. She is a good looking girl I guess(not my type) and yeah, he just wanted to hit that. He will never admit it. He will never say its about the looks and the physical body and her provocativenes s, of course he will say its just love. But how come he aint hooking with a regular looking yang girl?
Or he can really mean it when he says "he really love her"...
"how come he aint hooking up with a regular looking yang girl?"
Simple too: Everyone has the right to choose who they want to be with...
Truth is, he just wanted to bang that girl. He was turned on, got horny for her, she was willing, or maybe she even seduced him, who knows, but in anycase there was an opportunity and he just wanted to bang her and got his chance. Funny thing is, after sex even some guys catch feelings as it looks like he did and of course mixed with horniness and chance to keep having sex with her, of course he is going to date her.
I'm sure when you date those that live in "the Castro", you want to "bang" them too so nothing wrong with that as it's just a natural bodily functioning... As long as they are not blood related, it's all good..
Also he rumours on the internet is she is carrying his baby.
Like I said, I feel the worst for the kid growing up and having to hear other kids or grown ups talk about his/her parents in that way.
I bet "the kid growing up" will have more supporters than critics since there's nothing with with two non-blood related individuals hooking up...
Theres so many other girls out there, just as pretty, prettier, etc etc. How you gonna not just control your horniness and just be smart to pass up on the yang girl. Cmon David yang, just have sex with vangs instead, its almost like a yang, sounds the same, even the y looks like a vang. That actually could be re worded to be a good diss lyric.😂
Why does he needs to "pass up on that yang girl"?? If she's who he wants to be with, he has every right to be with her as long as she also consent. And he has enough common sense to know that there's nothing wrong with two non-blood related people dating...
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What if david yang and gloria is in here reading too?!?!?!
He'll probably make another music video..
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Well here's my take.
rappers are associated with being ghetto and when you are ghetto, the rule books are not against you. Why are kaydoos rappers in the hood are ruthless? Cuz they sag and make a style out of it.
Even a dog knows not to hit it upon smelling that it smells like his sister.
Then again, controlling your hormones isn't something anybody can do. It is a mind over matter for me. I can NOW watch porno without popping a boner. Maybe I'm just jaded. My friends can fawk a chick next to me and I wouldn't even pop a boner. I have respect like that.
Yeah, that's the word. RESPECT...... If you have it, you can live without cuz same last name, if taboo or anything that is taboo or have been warned from the elders can be respected by the oldest laws in the cultural books.
To go against it, might as well say that you are not hmong, not hamong, not mtt but a mother effing kaydoo negroo azz azn hood rat tat tat tat...
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I can see a lot of some of you would have no problem or even think twice for banging your HOT brother wife, your sister, step mom, friends mom, whatever the case, etc when opportunity surface. When your D call, you roll and the excuses would just flow out the mouth like no tomorrow. The way some of you think is troubling and disturbing. Like I said, just by listening to people, you can pretty much question, "what else goes on at the home". Also, makes me wonder how some of you were raised. I know every Hmong kids were told not to date same last name Hmong by their parents/uncles/grandparents at some point. I do understand that we all can do anything, it's called free will, HOWEVER there's is consequences and repercussions. I get it that there's always a reason to bang your sister, stepmom, rape your own child or hit your mom.......but YOU JUST DON'T DO IT. Just like there's a million reasons why you can date same last name Hmong girl.......YOU JUST DON'T DO IT. It's in your essence to know this by nature and it was taught to you by your parents. If you were raised right, you know where the line is drawn in all the shady things you encounter in life, from stealing, boozing, killing, raping, etc. The ultimate worst is it didn't even cross his mind to have respect for her, her parents, himself and his parents. Dude just another horny guy who took advantage of an opportunity that he will never admit to and then flourish the community with excuses to make him look half decent. Truth is, you minus the vagina and he be running the other way quicker Usain Bolt. Sad thing is cov neeg wise/smart can see right thru a con artist and the scheme. Another sad thing is, everyone wake up eventually after puberty. When the repercussion affects his children in the future, he will wake up to deal with it again. The sh1t we deal with is the result of the choices we make, the repercussion, the consequences.
There is free will and a million reasons, but it's in your ESSENCE to know that there are somethings you just don't do PERIOD.
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Many people are lost.
I can see a lot of some of you would have no problem or even think twice for banging your HOT brother wife, your sister, step mom, friends mom, whatever the case, etc when opportunity surface. When your D call, you roll and the excuses would just flow out the mouth like no tomorrow. The way some of you think is troubling and disturbing. Like I said, just by listening to people, you can pretty much question, "what else goes on at the home". Also, makes me wonder how some of you were raised. I know every Hmong kids were told not to date same last name Hmong by their parents/uncles/grandparents at some point. I do understand that we all can do anything, it's called free will, HOWEVER there's is consequences and repercussions. I get it that there's always a reason to bang your sister, stepmom, rape your own child or hit your mom.......but YOU JUST DON'T DO IT. Just like there's a million reasons why you can date same last name Hmong girl.......YOU JUST DON'T DO IT. It's in your essence to know this by nature and it was taught to you by your parents. If you were raised right, you know where the line is drawn in all the shady things you encounter in life, from stealing, boozing, killing, raping, etc. The ultimate worst is it didn't even cross his mind to have respect for her, her parents, himself and his parents. Dude just another horny guy who took advantage of an opportunity that he will never admit to and then flourish the community with excuses to make him look half decent. Truth is, you minus the vagina and he be running the other way quicker Usain Bolt. Sad thing is cov neeg wise/smart can see right thru a con artist and the scheme. Another sad thing is, everyone wake up eventually after puberty. When the repercussion affects his children in the future, he will wake up to deal with it again. The sh1t we deal with is the result of the choices we make, the repercussion, the consequences.
There is free will and a million reasons, but it's in your ESSENCE to know that there are somethings you just don't do PERIOD.
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I can see a lot of some of you would have no problem or even think twice for banging your HOT brother wife, your sister, step mom, friends mom, whatever the case, etc when opportunity surface. When your D call, you roll and the excuses would just flow out the mouth like no tomorrow. The way some of you think is troubling and disturbing. Like I said, just by listening to people, you can pretty much question, "what else goes on at the home". Also, makes me wonder how some of you were raised.
Probably true as I've seen and heard of many cases of Hmong folks having zero issues with their kids marrying their blood related family members...i.e., blood cousins..
I know every Hmong kids were told not to date same last name Hmong by their parents/uncles/grandparents at some point.
Not us as our elders had enough common sense to know that just because you share the same last name, it doesn't mean you are blood related family members.
I do understand that we all can do anything, it's called free will, HOWEVER there's is consequences and repercussions.
Depends if they believe in the fact that not all people sharing the same last are blood related or not..
I get it that there's always a reason to bang your sister, stepmom, rape your own child or hit your mom.......but YOU JUST DON'T DO IT.
Agree, because if you bang your own blood related family members, the chance of genetic defect of the next generation is higher..
However, if you are NOT blood related, feel free bang all you want (same last name or not)...
Just like there's a million reasons why you can date same last name Hmong girl.......YOU JUST DON'T DO IT.
Disagree, because just because you share the same last name doesn't mean that you're blood related..SO YES YOU CAN DO IT when that's the case..
It's in your essence to know this by nature and it was taught to you by your parents. If you were raised right, you know where the line is drawn in all the shady things you encounter in life, from stealing, boozing, killing, raping, etc. The ultimate worst is it didn't even cross his mind to have respect for her, her parents, himself and his parents. Dude just another horny guy who took advantage of an opportunity that he will never admit to and then flourish the community with excuses to make him look half decent. Truth is, you minus the vagina and he be running the other way quicker Usain Bolt. Sad thing is cov neeg wise/smart can see right thru a con artist and the scheme. Another sad thing is, everyone wake up eventually after puberty. When the repercussion affects his children in the future, he will wake up to deal with it again. The sh1t we deal with is the result of the choices we make, the repercussion, the consequences.
There is free will and a million reasons, but it's in your ESSENCE to know that there are somethings you just don't do PERIOD.
Agree, it should be in your nature as well as being taught and raised right by your parents to know where to draw the line: you can bang non-blood related folks but should never consider banging your own blood related family members (same last name or not)...Because the chances of repercussion such as genetic defects for the children in the future ARE higher...FACT!
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Here is an online definition of "clan":
A clan is a group of people united by actual or perceived kinship and descent. Even if lineage details are unknown, clan members may be organized around a founding member or apical ancestor. Clans, in indigenous societies, tend to be exogamous, meaning that their members cannot marry one another.
A large part of Hmong identity and culture is based on clan and the clan system so those who advocate for same clan marriage are either:
1. Ignorant of their Hmong identity and culture.
2. Denouncing a large part of their Hmong identity.
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Here is an online definition of "clan":
A clan is a group of people united by actual or perceived kinship and descent. Even if lineage details are unknown, clan members may be organized around a founding member or apical ancestor. Clans, in indigenous societies, tend to be exogamous, meaning that their members cannot marry one another.
A large part of Hmong identity and culture is based on clan and the clan system so those who advocate for same clan marriage are either:
1. Ignorant of their Hmong identity and culture.
2. Denouncing a large part of their Hmong identity.
Wrong and wrong..
3. They have enough common sense to know that not all people with the same last name are blood related...The Chinese and Koreans figured this out decades ago and got rid of that primitive belief in their societies. Some Hmong have also adopted Chinese last names due to various reasons i.e., slavery but it doesn't mean they are related by blood...Kind of like how many Blacks have White European last names but they are not blood related...
Unless you're talking about your clan: the Ku Klux Klan
I still remembered the time I said, I have no problems standing up against racist people and you said, even though the hate they spew against you hurts you, you just "FAKE" it because it is your dream to marry a White guy...so meh.
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I doubt you can stand up to anything. You won't even dare give me your real identity so I can check out your background. Just a fake guy acting tough like his abusive dad.
Based on your sh.itty upbringing, I'm pretty sure the KKK was the least of you worries. You didn't need them to get a switch to your backside, did you? :2funny: :2funny: :2funny: :2funny: Not with daddy around.
You came from a bi.tch's punani so anything you say has no credibility.
YOU OBVIOUSLY DO NOT UNDERSTAND THE DEFINITION I POSTED REGARDING CLAN.
And if you want to talk about racists then look at your fugly Chinese wife and her ancestors. TALK ABOUT RAPING AND KILLING THE HMONG.
You're just from the SH.ITTY Yang clan subgroup that nobody gives a crap about.
I know one Yang guy from your group who also said his group doesn't caiv lub plawv nor do they caiv noj nqaij Yaj. I believe he lives in Sacramento now. Dude was a real loser loner and only associated with the larger Yang group when it benefitted him. Nowadays, nobody knows the whereabouts of him nor do they care.
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I find it laughable that theking and those who choose to walk outside of Hmong culture and Hmong societal norms would feel so offended. THEY SPENT THEIR LIFE LIVING CONTRADICTORY TO HMONG CULTURE AND EXPECTATIONS! :2funny: :2funny: :2funny:
When you live your life going against the Hmong grain then YOU ARE DENOUNCING YOUR HERITAGE AND ANCESTRAL IDENTITY, dummies! Nothing to get offensive about. I thought you all were PROUD to be acting like a non-Hmong anyways, now you triggered? :idiot2: :idiot2: :idiot2: :idiot2:
GTFO!
There is no "depends", no redefining Hmong standards and values, etc.
DATING YOUR OWN CLAN GOES AGAINST HMONG VALUES, CULTURE, AND STANDARDS, PERIOD.
Nowhere did I ever say you couldn't do whatever the f.ck you want in this country. I simply said that either you were:
1. Ignorant of the Hmong identity and culture.
or
2. Denouncing said Hmong identity - which is based on said values, culture, standards, etc.
You guys are acting like them killer neo-feminazi biatches who want to be able to murder their babies at will but still be seen like saints and heroes. ::) :idiot2: :idiot2: :idiot2: :idiot2:
theking wants to drill dirty and fishy Chinese cabbage while getting it from behind by a big black dong and occasionally screw a Yang sister YET call himself the most Hmong of anybody on PH. :2funny: :2funny: :2funny: :2funny:
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I doubt you can stand up to anything. You won't even dare give me your real identity so I can check out your background. Just a fake guy acting tough like his abusive dad.
Based on your sh.itty upbringing, I'm pretty sure the KKK was the least of you worries. You didn't need them to get a switch to your backside, did you? :2funny: :2funny: :2funny: :2funny: Not with daddy around.
You came from a bi.tch's punani so anything you say has no credibility.
YOU OBVIOUSLY DO NOT UNDERSTAND THE DEFINITION I POSTED REGARDING CLAN.
And if you want to talk about racists then look at your fugly Chinese wife and her ancestors. TALK ABOUT RAPING AND KILLING THE HMONG.
You're just from the SH.ITTY Yang clan subgroup that nobody gives a crap about.
I know one Yang guy from your group who also said his group doesn't caiv lub plawv nor do they caiv noj nqaij Yaj. I believe he lives in Sacramento now. Dude was a real loser loner and only associated with the larger Yang group when it benefitted him. Nowadays, nobody knows the whereabouts of him nor do they care.
Oh look who came crawling back to prove me right once more after crying "I will stop reading what you write"...That's right it's the HYPOCRITE PH Villiage Troll with zero integrity and credibility. ;D ;D ;D
The blood must've be gushing as usual this cycle...
Yep, same HYPOCRITE that kicked her own mother to the curb despite all the sacrifices her mom went through to give her the "world".
Yep, same HYPOCRITE that put Hmong men down but married to one..BECAUSE EVEN A BUCK TOOTH RED HEADED STEP CHILD WHITE REJECTED DUDE WOULDN'T WANT HER BLOODY HOLE AKA "bi.tch's punani "..
Yep, same HYPOCRITE that put divorcee down but married one herself..
Yep, same HYPOCRITE that argue tooth and nail against guns but then flip-flop to being for guns now..
And yep, same HYPOCRITE that despite her mom gave her the "world", she has nothing to show for it as she's "flat broke"...
AND NOPE, I DON'T CARE HOW MUCH THE HYPOCRITE PH Village Troll PM or threatens me, I will not care about her "rescind" request until she does what's needed...
And yep, the HYPOCRITE PH Village Troll with zero integrity and credibility will crawl back despite her cries of "I will stop reading what you write" because she's worthless like that, WATCH!!! ;D ;D ;D
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I find it laughable that theking and those who choose to walk outside of Hmong culture and Hmong societal norms would feel so offended. THEY SPENT THEIR LIFE LIVING CONTRADICTORY TO HMONG CULTURE AND EXPECTATIONS! :2funny: :2funny: :2funny:
When you live your life going against the Hmong grain then YOU ARE DENOUNCING YOUR HERITAGE AND ANCESTRAL IDENTITY, dummies! Nothing to get offensive about. I thought you all were PROUD to be acting like a non-Hmong anyways, now you triggered? :idiot2: :idiot2: :idiot2: :idiot2:
GTFO!
There is no "depends", no redefining Hmong standards and values, etc.
DATING YOUR OWN CLAN GOES AGAINST HMONG VALUES, CULTURE, AND STANDARDS, PERIOD.
Nowhere did I ever say you couldn't do whatever the f.ck you want in this country. I simply said that either you were:
1. Ignorant of the Hmong identity and culture.
or
2. Denouncing said Hmong identity - which is based on said values, culture, standards, etc.
You guys are acting like them killer neo-feminazi biatches who want to be able to murder their babies at will but still be seen like saints and heroes. ::) :idiot2: :idiot2: :idiot2: :idiot2:
theking wants to drill dirty and fishy Chinese cabbage while getting it from behind by a big black dong and occasionally screw a Yang sister YET call himself the most Hmong of anybody on PH. :2funny: :2funny: :2funny: :2funny:
WOW, 2 posts in a row...This "bi.tch's punani " must be gushing worst than the Oroville dam this cycle.. ;D
The HYPOCRITE PH Village Troll with zero integrity and credibility NOT only took the time to read what I wrote but also dedicated her time to reply twice back to back after crying "I will stop reading what you write"...;D ;D ;D
Yep, same HYPOCRITE that kicked her own mother to the curb despite all the sacrifices her mom went through to give her the "world".
Yep, same HYPOCRITE that put Hmong men down but married to one..BECAUSE EVEN A BUCK TOOTH RED HEADED STEP CHILD WHITE REJECTED DUDE WOULDN'T WANT HER BLOODY HOLE AKA "bi.tch's punani "..
Yep, same HYPOCRITE that put divorcee down but married one herself..
Yep, same HYPOCRITE that argue tooth and nail against guns but then flip-flop to being for guns now..
And yep, same HYPOCRITE that despite her mom gave her the "world", she has nothing to show for it as she's "flat broke"...
AND NOPE, I DON'T CARE HOW MUCH THE HYPOCRITE PH Village Troll PM or threatens me, I will not care about her "rescind" request until she does what's needed...
And yep, the HYPOCRITE PH Village Troll with zero integrity and credibility will crawl back despite her cries of "I will stop reading what you write" because she's worthless like that, WATCH!!! ;D ;D ;D