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General Category => Debate Central => Topic started by: TheAfterLife on September 14, 2016, 07:27:49 PM
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I vote for Jeepers. He got his head cut off and yet, he is still alive. He can't die until the 23 days are over. After those are over, he comes back for another round to eat again.
I can see that Jeepers can carry a bus. How about Predator?
Feats for Jeepers:
1. Jeepers has a homing shuriken that follows its prey.
2. He eats to gain body parts
3. He can carry a bus
4. His wings are as strong to flip a truck
5. He has a great sense of smell to find his prey
6. He flies up high to blind his enemies in daylight. He hides under the sun to stay hidden in the sky. At night, he stalks in grass fields.
7. All of his combat weapons are homing devices that can fly by itself.
Feats for Predator:
1. Laser cannons
2. Cloaking device
3. Wrist blade
4. A spear
5. A flying shuriken
6. He is stronger than humans
7. Fast endurance
8. Hunts xenomorphs as its favorite thing
Feats for Alien:
1. Crazy like an animal
2. Acidic blood
3. Exoskeleton
4. Nails, feet, and tail has acid on the tip
5. Killer tongue-like mouth
6. Able to cloak itself in black
7. Stalker
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I vote for Jeepers. He got his head cut off and yet, he is still alive. He can't die until the 23 days are over. After those are over, he comes back for another round to eat again.
I can see that Jeepers can carry a bus. How about Predator?
Feats for Jeepers:
1. Jeepers has a homing shuriken that follows its prey.
There's no evidence that the shurikens can follow its prey.
2. He eats to gain body parts
3. He can carry a bus
This is inaccurate because he never actually carried a bus. He was able to move the bus due to kenetic energy.
4. His wings are as strong to flip a truck
5. He has a great sense of smell to find his prey
6. He flies up high to blind his enemies in daylight. He hides under the sun to stay hidden in the sky. At night, he stalks in grass fields.
7. All of his combat weapons are homing devices that can fly by itself.
Again inaccurate, not all of his weapons can move by itself. With the dagger shown, it flew by itself, but in a single direction. It can be dodge as seen in the movie.
Feats for Predator:
1. Laser cannons
2. Cloaking device
3. Wrist blade
4. A spear
5. A flying shuriken
6. He is stronger than humans
7. Fast endurance
8. Hunts xenomorphs as its favorite thing
9. Helmet, helps in tracking/targeting prey, triangulation of the origin of a projectile.
10. Able to tear down metal security and/or "blast" doors with ease.
11. Able to lift a minivan and toss it with ease.
Feats for Alien:
1. Crazy like an animal
2. Acidic blood
3. Exoskeleton
4. Nails, feet, and tail has acid on the tip
5. Killer tongue-like mouth
6. Able to cloak itself in black
7. Stalker
I say it comes down to creeper and predator. I have to give predator the win. When it comes to weapons and equipments, predator outclassed creeper. One small advantage creeper has is flight, but it isn't a big advantage and I don't see how it can be a effective in this case. All are hunting, so there isn't an easy prey to pick up, especially when predator has his helmet and have great hearing able to hear from distances of 50ft. That takes us to hunting skills. Both have good hunting skills, but I would have to give a slight edge to predator because of the average prey that each of them hunts. Creeper's preys are more of inexperienced average person. Predator, on the other hand, hunts more experienced preys. One hunts for food, the other for sport. Speed, both are equal in running, creeper is fast in flight and predator is faster at reflex response. Creeper's regeneration ability is irrelevant here because he would have to take the body parts from his two opponents.
After analyzing the attributes and compare it to one another, I think predator will win.
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For 23 days only. He can be alive for 23 days. Then he's gone for 23 years until those years are done. He's an immortal, an undead immortal.
As far as we know, we cannot confirm whether he is immortal or not. So using the immortality defense is out the window.
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Jeepers can just yank Predator in the air by grabbing his foot, then flies into the air and drops him high. What is Predator now? Predator can try to slice him, but that won't do. Predator does have all the cool stuff, but he lost to the xenomorphs. What does that tell me? Predator with all the cool gadget can still lose to someone like the xenomorphs. Hey, at least the aliens know how to die instantly. Jeepers, however, he doesn't know how to die instantly. He does die after those 23 days, but if they were to fight for real before those 23 days are over, predator will be his next meal before learning the new technology of Predator. Predator can cloak, but he will not win against Jeepers. If Predator cannot win against Wolverine, for example, then Jeepers will be tougher than ever. Predator cannot regenerate; however, Jeepers can.
But right before he is about to yank predator, he gets disintegrated by a blast from predator. THE END. :2funny:
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Kids in the 90s wanted to be Predator. They wanted shoulder mounted laser gun and ability to cloak. Ain't no kid wanting to be Jeepers Creepers.
Predator wins.
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Ah, a blast in the air. What a wrong idea. If Predator shot him in the air, I am so sorry, but Predator is dead. Also, Jeeper's items homes on people. So, if Jeepers is being targeted, he will throw his shurikens to jam the turret before taking him into the air. THE END! Predator lacks speed compare to Jeepers. He's good on ground, but not in the air.
Creeper 's homemade shuriken can't penetrate this.
(https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/7f/f7/08/7ff7084d0dc3e1b7d6a4493184cea6d8.jpg)
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LOL! Oh wow...this is stupid, LOL! :2funny:
This is a funny child-like debate about two fictional movie characters. LOL what's stupid here is you trying to justify why anything I say is stupid when this thread is in essence, "stupid", and only for cheeky entertainment purposes.
Hurry! Go get your moderator cavalry to erase my "hurtful" post! XD
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Uh, things that are by his nature, or made from nature is considered a normal and a fair fight. Therefore, the immortality is normal is because it's part of him. Therefore, the immortality remains to be fair is because it's part of its nature. It's like saying, "Don't give predator super strength," which is retarded.
Hahaha.
Oh, now they can't use any weapons? Always coming up with excuses when you lose.
The fight is between the creeper, predator and alien. There was never any rules against no weapons. The ship is predator's weapon, It's natural to use your brain and use your weapons.
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How can he? He's not an immortal. He's a mortal being that can die.
You failed with that argument already, stop repeating it over and over again.
There is no evidence of him being an immortal in the two movies. Your assumption is not evidence. Having the ability to regenerate isn't evidence for immortality. So he can die just like in part 2.
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Uh, things that are by his nature, or made from nature is considered a normal and a fair fight.
And since the predator's ship is made from nature, they used materials found in nature, their ship can be used.
Watch how he changes the rules yet again :2funny:
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You're just putting and adding crap to this like how Mayweather does it to Pacman.
Hahaha.
You should really listen to yourself. You are the only person here who keeps on changing the rules so your fighter wins, simply because you don't have to support your argument.
Your debate/fight strategy must be...
1. Start a debate making the rules in favor of you.
2. Make your argument.
3. Give inaccurate evidences.
4. When it's refuted, don't give any evidence, just cheat and change the rules so you will have a chance of winning.
5. When the opponent shows more evidence supporting their argument, accuse them of cheating.
6. Repeat steps 5 & 6.
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How is it made from nature? The preds have built it, not nature. Nature is something that creates it. For example, a storm, an earthquake, or a tornado. Therefore, what the preds have done is nurture, not nature.
I said the materials are made from nature, you know, like how the use materials that are made from nature.
Another failed excuse. O0
I guess it's time to just wait and see your next attempt at changing the rules. O0
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Predator is Chinese!
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Then you didn't make it clear. I made it clear where nature created it, not someone used nature. That's nurture, not nature.
You made it clear that weapons are allowed.
Wah-wah-wah :2funny:
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Grown azz men playing pokiman and now talking about my monster can kick your monster azz. :2funny:
Am I in the computer nerd section of the forum or what?
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Grown azz men playing pokiman and now talking about my monster can kick your monster azz. :2funny:
Am I in the computer nerd section of the forum or what?
Nope. You're just a grown azz man playing pokemon while coming in here talking about monsters. :2funny:
Btw, check the computer nerd section, pokemon might be in there.
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Aren't they just made up stuff?
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Aren't they just made up stuff?
Yes it is. I have to teach the student on how to debate with lessons using fake stuff first. When he is ready, then he can try with easy real arguments. I use fake stuff first because, as seen so far, there isn't much boundaries to those arguments. He must start by just getting comfortable with throwing ideas out there first. At this stage he still isn't that comfortable yet, he is just to the stage of going into a debate with what he knows. That's why he is still using the repetition strategy, giving only a few facts then repeat them over and over. Eventually I would like him to add more and more new facts as the debate goes on, rebuttal after rebuttal.
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I see.
Yes it is. I have to teach the student on how to debate with lessons using fake stuff first. When he is ready, then he can try with easy real arguments. I use fake stuff first because, as seen so far, there isn't much boundaries to those arguments. He must start by just getting comfortable with throwing ideas out there first. At this stage he still isn't that comfortable yet, he is just to the stage of going into a debate with what he knows. That's why he is still using the repetition strategy, giving only a few facts then repeat them over and over. Eventually I would like him to add more and more new facts as the debate goes on, rebuttal after rebuttal.
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That's if Predator is smart. If you give Predator prep and time, okay. However, if it's an instant fight without prep, the Creeper wins. Batman only wins when there is prep and time. If Predator doesn't prep of knowing its weakness, then Jeepers will eat him alive and gain body parts of his part. Soon or later, the Creeper will learn the new ways of Predator's technology.
Again, to make it fair, it will have to be an instant fight, like how you saw the Trojan battle in the Achilles movie.
Failed again.You declared creeper the winner without giving any facts to back it up. Throwing irrelevant things are not considered as facts.
That's If predator is smart.... do all those high tech weaponry and hunting skills ring a bell?
Batman is his own individual and has nothing to do with any of this, nor is he in this fight so irrelevant point toeven bbring it up.
None of this have anything to do with the creeper 'sability to regenerate.
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Again, to make it fair, it will have to be an instant fight, like how you saw the Trojan battle in the Achilles movie.
That's why creeper 's regeneration ability is useless in this fight. There are no timeouts in this fight. Instant fight but no instant regeneration equals useless.
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This.
So. Predator wins since the "immortal" claim flies out the window and regeneration also is out.
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You say no time to prep but then you say "sooner or later creeper will learn". No time to prep. Just all out so creeper won't get that time to run away and study. Head on fight he loses since he knows nothing about predator and predator's weapons.
But just wait, Theafterlife will change the rules again to try and put it in favor of his argument. The thing he does not see is that the rules change goes both ways. Since the predator is clearly the superior of the two, with all these changes, it only widen the gap between the two.
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Creeper can still have his regeneration, that's if he eats one of Pred's body parts.
I never said he can't have it. I said it's useless. First being that he has to eat predator's body part, it's not like it's predator is going to just give it to him. Second, it takes time for him to regenerate that body part, which is no timeouts in this fight. So yea, useless.
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But Predator doesn't have a gun. Sorry...it's a melee battle.
But predator does have a gun. Sorry. ....it's not a melee battle.
Extra sorry...trying to change the rules again and again doesn't matter, you still lost every time you changed the rules.
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Predators are natural born hunters. They can see heat. Also, they have a ticking time bomb on their arm. Creeper may have healing factor from what we know. So it may be immortal and it hunts prey every 20yrs or something like that. Aliens have the ability to reproduce at a high rate but aren't intelligent. Predators would win due to technology.
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Gotta go with alien
Their acid will turn you liquid fresh
They beat those hairless creator bald dude in prometheus
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They all have my vote - wouldn't want to mess with any.
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I'll lay down the strength and weakness for each competitive contestants.
PREDATOR
Strength
- Cunning on creating and using advanced weapons
- Can lift cars and push heavy objects
- Can catch up men when running
- Have lived long many eons til present day
- Learn to speak and understand any language fluently
- Track down its prey
- Can live few days without foods and water
Weakness
- Color blind
- Enemies can outsmart and flip tactic maneuver on predators
- Boredom ;D
- Being outnumbered
ALIEN
Strength
- Can lay dozen eggs and keep on multiply
- Can blend in dark environment
- Kill enemies with razor sharp claws and tail tip and biting tongue
- Jumping Agility and running speed
- Its blood is acid and can shoot it upon enemies
Weakness
- Must feed on men
- Stages of metamorphosis
- Cold temperature
- Without the pack
- Sunlight
- Sacrifice their own
JEEPER CREEPER
Strength
- Power to lift and knock off heavy objects
- Can drive vehicles
- Can regenerate lost cells by replacing with human's flesh
- Never die
- Knowledge of ancient and modern weapons
- Knowledge the demographic location of its prey
Weakness
- Outnumbered and outsmarted by its enemies
- Must feed on human flesh to replace lost limbs and body parts
- His head is the core
- Return to his origin
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That was thorough breaking down the characters and based on that I'd go for Jeeper Creeper, the creature is eternal.
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I think Predator have the chance to beat Jeeper Creeper unless he's smart enough to take the head and drop it into the mouth of volcano where the lava can melt the head completely.
I realized Predators ain't that smart. They want some actions and don't want to spoil the fun.