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Title: Chinatown Los Angeles--Discrimination against Hmong
Post by: Hmonggirl1 on August 06, 2018, 09:25:06 AM
Hello my Hmong friends and family. I would like to inform everyone and please pass the words out to your families, friends, and so on so forth about my experience while browsing in Chinatown LA. On August 1, 2018, my mom and I went to Chinatown and were browsing through the vendors and clothes in the 821 N Spring, Los Angeles, one of the main shopping centers there in Chinatown where many Hmong come to buy clothes and accessories to resell in the Midwest or Northern California. Most people might come through the front building which has the address of 828 Broadway, both since the building is behind this building most people think the address is 828 Broadway, however it's 821 N. Spring, Los Angeles. Anyway, my mom and I were shopping and looking at clothes and accessories and came to a store or vendor called 'Luvienne' . The man there, with an angry face, told us not to go inside his store after my mom and I looked at some of the clothes on the rack outside. We then walked around to the other side after he told us not to enter the store. Around the corner,  there stood his old mother making ugly faces and gestures at us too, a sign for us to go away. I didn't do or say anything except thinking these Chinese people are so rude and started walking away until the old lady started talking to her son in Chinese which I don't understand except the word 'Hmong'. I then got angry and turned around, walked back to the old lady and confronted her and told her that indeed, we are Hmong. And what is wrong with that? The old lady then said ' I know you are Hmong people and get out!' I was not shocked, just angry that these Chinese people in Los Angeles Chinatown loves our money but hate us. To make the story short, I did not walk away quietly after that.

We Hmong people shopped a lot and buy a lot from these Chinese merchants to the point where they even know how to
Speak Hmong fluently. Please my Hmong family and friends, pass the words to your mom, dad, brothers, sisters, aunts, uncles, friends, and every one you know to please stay away from this shop 'Luvienne' located at 821 N Spring, Los Angeles, suite 167A and possibly 165. This store is very racist against all Hmong. If you must shop there, proceed with caution and only touch if you plan to buy anything. You have been warned. This practice is only good in China, here in the United States, we are not going to let any one put us Hmong down with disrespectful  treatment. I'm proud to be Hmong.
Title: Re: Chinatown Los Angeles--Discrimination against Hmong
Post by: Mr_Mechanic on August 06, 2018, 10:08:57 AM
brush it off and go shop somewhere else.  there're always gonna be people like that.  except the fact that not everyone on this entire earth is I love you, you love me. 
Title: Re: Chinatown Los Angeles--Discrimination against Hmong
Post by: Reporter on August 06, 2018, 10:13:25 AM
The street is so dirty there. They call that the Dynasty Center building? Man, they need to do some cleaning around the building.

Asians who seclude themselves like the Chinese do there are not exposed to different cultures; they don't know how to respect differences.

But I wonder why these people didn't have better customer services for the well-being of their businesses.

Yes, best to boycott them by not patronizing their businesses, so that they will respect their customers more.
Title: Re: Chinatown Los Angeles--Discrimination against Hmong
Post by: winerice on August 06, 2018, 10:27:38 AM
I don't expect good customer service from there and it is best to shop elsewhere. Many china towns are filthy and dirty anyway.
Title: Re: Chinatown Los Angeles--Discrimination against Hmong
Post by: Yebleng on August 06, 2018, 11:29:03 AM
I'm not surprised. Me and my family was in China town NYC awhile back and my sister was browsing a jewelry shop. She had asked the chinese woman at the counter if they sell a certain gold and her reply was, "if you don't like it, don't buy" I was shocked. Me and my family just head straight to the door and out of Chinatown. Chinese people are freaken rude and disgusting. They don't value anything and have no respect.
Title: Re: Chinatown Los Angeles--Discrimination against Hmong
Post by: Gucci K on August 06, 2018, 01:01:30 PM
My big troubles in little chinatown...

i, too, was there not long ago...paid a visit to china town (primarily for sightseeing).  one would think that they would welcome you with open arms (since we're all asian et all) but that is certainly not the case.  the shop owners are aggressive and quite rude when it comes to their merchandise.  if you look at it, ask to see it, and/or touches it...they will try and convince you to buy it, even to the point of forcing.  one can negotiate the price if you're really interested, as the products are over priced to begin with and made with poor materials/fabrics.  i would not be caught dead wearing them. 

next stop was at a fruit juice stand...i asked for a cup of fresh squeezed sugar cane juice ($4.00).  the lady took out some used canes and ran it through the machine.  I looked at her and shook my head, "mam, can you get me new canes, instead..i don't want those!"  She looked at me and said, "it's okay, still the same..." i replied, "no, no thank you...i don't want it anymore.." and left.  She gave me the death stare.

went into a dim sum restaurant, a couple of tables were available by the window and asked if we could sit there...the waitress declined and said it was reserved.  as we sat down, a white couple came in and ask for the same tables, they were situated there.  the carts rolled around and few dishes were served...the food was cold, we immediately dropped our spoons and said we had to go.  they charged us $20something plus the WATER! 

if i ever go back to china again, i might have to do some karate chops and kungfu on them republic of chinese people...i'd rather give my money to them mexicans.

Title: Re: Chinatown Los Angeles--Discrimination against Hmong
Post by: thePoster on August 06, 2018, 02:45:20 PM
Wowzers… maybe some hmongs have wronged them in the past?

Title: Re: Chinatown Los Angeles--Discrimination against Hmong
Post by: Cali Guy on August 06, 2018, 06:26:08 PM
Hello my Hmong friends and family. I would like to inform everyone and please pass the words out to your families, friends, and so on so forth about my experience while browsing in Chinatown LA. On August 1, 2018, my mom and I went to Chinatown and were browsing through the vendors and clothes in the 821 N Spring, Los Angeles, one of the main shopping centers there in Chinatown where many Hmong come to buy clothes and accessories to resell in the Midwest or Northern California. Most people might come through the front building which has the address of 828 Broadway, both since the building is behind this building most people think the address is 828 Broadway, however it's 821 N. Spring, Los Angeles. Anyway, my mom and I were shopping and looking at clothes and accessories and came to a store or vendor called 'Luvienne' . The man there, with an angry face, told us not to go inside his store after my mom and I looked at some of the clothes on the rack outside. We then walked around to the other side after he told us not to enter the store. Around the corner,  there stood his old mother making ugly faces and gestures at us too, a sign for us to go away. I didn't do or say anything except thinking these Chinese people are so rude and started walking away until the old lady started talking to her son in Chinese which I don't understand except the word 'Hmong'. I then got angry and turned around, walked back to the old lady and confronted her and told her that indeed, we are Hmong. And what is wrong with that? The old lady then said ' I know you are Hmong people and get out!' I was not shocked, just angry that these Chinese people in Los Angeles Chinatown loves our money but hate us. To make the story short, I did not walk away quietly after that.

We Hmong people shopped a lot and buy a lot from these Chinese merchants to the point where they even know how to
Speak Hmong fluently. Please my Hmong family and friends, pass the words to your mom, dad, brothers, sisters, aunts, uncles, friends, and every one you know to please stay away from this shop 'Luvienne' located at 821 N Spring, Los Angeles, suite 167A and possibly 165. This store is very racist against all Hmong. If you must shop there, proceed with caution and only touch if you plan to buy anything. You have been warned. This practice is only good in China, here in the United States, we are not going to let any one put us Hmong down with disrespectful  treatment. I'm proud to be Hmong.

Many Asian businesses do not have customer service including yours truly Hmong businesses. A business has the right to refuse services so you move on and spread the words. Don’t attack all Chinese businesses in LA for one tiny incident.
Title: Re: Chinatown Los Angeles--Discrimination against Hmong
Post by: DuMa on August 06, 2018, 06:40:04 PM
Maybe you are the competing vendor from across the room and shaming them like this will stiffed the competition for you.

Title: Re: Chinatown Los Angeles--Discrimination against Hmong
Post by: theking on August 06, 2018, 08:39:11 PM
Hello my Hmong friends and family. I would like to inform everyone and please pass the words out to your families, friends, and so on so forth about my experience while browsing in Chinatown LA. On August 1, 2018, my mom and I went to Chinatown and were browsing through the vendors and clothes in the 821 N Spring, Los Angeles, one of the main shopping centers there in Chinatown where many Hmong come to buy clothes and accessories to resell in the Midwest or Northern California. Most people might come through the front building which has the address of 828 Broadway, both since the building is behind this building most people think the address is 828 Broadway, however it's 821 N. Spring, Los Angeles. Anyway, my mom and I were shopping and looking at clothes and accessories and came to a store or vendor called 'Luvienne' . The man there, with an angry face, told us not to go inside his store after my mom and I looked at some of the clothes on the rack outside. We then walked around to the other side after he told us not to enter the store. Around the corner,  there stood his old mother making ugly faces and gestures at us too, a sign for us to go away. I didn't do or say anything except thinking these Chinese people are so rude and started walking away until the old lady started talking to her son in Chinese which I don't understand except the word 'Hmong'. I then got angry and turned around, walked back to the old lady and confronted her and told her that indeed, we are Hmong. And what is wrong with that? The old lady then said ' I know you are Hmong people and get out!' I was not shocked, just angry that these Chinese people in Los Angeles Chinatown loves our money but hate us. To make the story short, I did not walk away quietly after that.

We Hmong people shopped a lot and buy a lot from these Chinese merchants to the point where they even know how to
Speak Hmong fluently. Please my Hmong family and friends, pass the words to your mom, dad, brothers, sisters, aunts, uncles, friends, and every one you know to please stay away from this shop 'Luvienne' located at 821 N Spring, Los Angeles, suite 167A and possibly 165. This store is very racist against all Hmong. If you must shop there, proceed with caution and only touch if you plan to buy anything. You have been warned. This practice is only good in China, here in the United States, we are not going to let any one put us Hmong down with disrespectful  treatment. I'm proud to be Hmong.

Every basket has good and bad apples and I'm glad to see you stand up for your rights.

BTW, does your family go there to buy merchandise and resell it at flea market and such?  ???
Title: Re: Chinatown Los Angeles--Discrimination against Hmong
Post by: joot on August 07, 2018, 08:17:18 AM
Same issues in Chinatown and Korean town in Chicago.  Vietnam town is a lot better.  They don't give you the death stare....

BTW, some of these "stores" are fronts for criminal gangs to launder money...   
Title: Re: Chinatown Los Angeles--Discrimination against Hmong
Post by: Reporter on August 07, 2018, 08:38:10 AM
And I was gonna ask Ms. Zhang to be my gf...Zhang Ziyi, that is.
Title: Re: Chinatown Los Angeles--Discrimination against Hmong
Post by: ProudLao on August 07, 2018, 08:40:35 AM
 ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D :D
Title: Re: Chinatown Los Angeles--Discrimination against Hmong
Post by: Hmonggirl1 on August 07, 2018, 08:54:24 AM
Many Asian businesses do not have customer service including yours truly Hmong businesses. A business has the right to refuse services so you move on and spread the words. Don’t attack all Chinese businesses in LA for one tiny incident.

Cali Guy--No one is attacking all Chinese Businesses here. And if this vendor only personally attacked me I would brush it off like some people mentioned here but they attack all Hmong ( go back and re-read my story) so I just want to stand up for my people from being treated this way! It's cowardly not to say anything or stand up for respect.
Title: Re: Chinatown Los Angeles--Discrimination against Hmong
Post by: Hmonggirl1 on August 07, 2018, 08:56:42 AM
;D ;D ;D ;D ;D :D

Proud Hmong here too! At least I stand up for my people instead of walking away like you.
Title: Re: Chinatown Los Angeles--Discrimination against Hmong
Post by: Hmonggirl1 on August 07, 2018, 08:58:18 AM
Maybe you are the competing vendor from across the room and shaming them like this will stiffed the competition for you.

No, I'm not! You can bet on that.
Title: Re: Chinatown Los Angeles--Discrimination against Hmong
Post by: Hmonggirl1 on August 07, 2018, 09:00:38 AM
Maybe you are the competing vendor from across the room and shaming them like this will stiffed the competition for you.

DuMa: I'm not a competing business. You can bet on that.
Title: Re: Chinatown Los Angeles--Discrimination against Hmong
Post by: Hmonggirl1 on August 07, 2018, 09:08:35 AM
Every basket has good and bad apples and I'm glad to see you stand up for your rights.

BTW, does your family go there to buy merchandise and resell it at flea market and such?  ???

Theking--I see you will stand up for your rights instead of waiting for some one else to do it for you from your comments. And no, I live in southern CA most of my life, and I don't resell anything but I do see Hmong people buy from there for resell many times and I take my out-of-state relatives to LA Chinatown because they want a tour.
Title: Re: Chinatown Los Angeles--Discrimination against Hmong
Post by: Mr_Mechanic on August 07, 2018, 09:09:57 AM
will somebody give this lady a round of applause and a medal for her bravely? 
Title: Re: Chinatown Los Angeles--Discrimination against Hmong
Post by: Hmonggirl1 on August 07, 2018, 09:16:41 AM
will somebody give this lady a round of applause and a medal for her bravely?

Mr_Mechanic: you are entitled to your opinion and how you want to be treated but don't put people down for standing up so that the next person can have a better experience.
Title: Re: Chinatown Los Angeles--Discrimination against Hmong
Post by: Mr_Mechanic on August 07, 2018, 09:19:26 AM
Mr_Mechanic: you are entitled to your opinion and how you want to be treated but don't put people down for standing up so that the next person can have a better experience.
I was being honest and sincere
Title: Re: Chinatown Los Angeles--Discrimination against Hmong
Post by: Hmonggirl1 on August 07, 2018, 09:22:59 AM
Wowzers… maybe some hmongs have wronged them in the past?

No, Hmong people never wronged these Chinese vendors. It's when they touch and look but don't buy that upsets them. A common practice in China. But here in the great USA, that practice cannot be tolerated here.
Title: Re: Chinatown Los Angeles--Discrimination against Hmong
Post by: Reporter on August 07, 2018, 10:04:56 AM
I will treat her to lunch when she comes to St. Paul for J4.

will somebody give this lady a round of applause and a medal for her bravely?
Title: Re: Chinatown Los Angeles--Discrimination against Hmong
Post by: DuMa on August 07, 2018, 11:07:19 AM
If it is obvious that they are racist then help them to be racist.

Take a bunch of stuff and put in your shopping cart.  Upon paying, say you forgot your wallet in your car. 

They think you are their best customer for months so they will wait and wait for your return but you never did.

Now they will hate your Hmong people even more.
Title: Re: Chinatown Los Angeles--Discrimination against Hmong
Post by: can on August 07, 2018, 12:19:21 PM
Hello my Hmong friends and family. I would like to inform everyone and please pass the words out to your families, friends, and so on so forth about my experience while browsing in Chinatown LA. On August 1, 2018, my mom and I went to Chinatown and were browsing through the vendors and clothes in the 821 N Spring, Los Angeles, one of the main shopping centers there in Chinatown where many Hmong come to buy clothes and accessories to resell in the Midwest or Northern California. Most people might come through the front building which has the address of 828 Broadway, both since the building is behind this building most people think the address is 828 Broadway, however it's 821 N. Spring, Los Angeles. Anyway, my mom and I were shopping and looking at clothes and accessories and came to a store or vendor called 'Luvienne' . The man there, with an angry face, told us not to go inside his store after my mom and I looked at some of the clothes on the rack outside. We then walked around to the other side after he told us not to enter the store. Around the corner,  there stood his old mother making ugly faces and gestures at us too, a sign for us to go away. I didn't do or say anything except thinking these Chinese people are so rude and started walking away until the old lady started talking to her son in Chinese which I don't understand except the word 'Hmong'. I then got angry and turned around, walked back to the old lady and confronted her and told her that indeed, we are Hmong. And what is wrong with that? The old lady then said ' I know you are Hmong people and get out!' I was not shocked, just angry that these Chinese people in Los Angeles Chinatown loves our money but hate us. To make the story short, I did not walk away quietly after that.

We Hmong people shopped a lot and buy a lot from these Chinese merchants to the point where they even know how to
Speak Hmong fluently. Please my Hmong family and friends, pass the words to your mom, dad, brothers, sisters, aunts, uncles, friends, and every one you know to please stay away from this shop 'Luvienne' located at 821 N Spring, Los Angeles, suite 167A and possibly 165. This store is very racist against all Hmong. If you must shop there, proceed with caution and only touch if you plan to buy anything. You have been warned. This practice is only good in China, here in the United States, we are not going to let any one put us Hmong down with disrespectful  treatment. I'm proud to be Hmong.

girl,

what a horrible experience for you but you're better off to go on twitter or some other outlet to report this kind of racism. The men in here, esp the hmong men, are some of the most backwards thinking, ignorant, archaic types of men out there. that's why so many hmong women are marrying out of race because these types of men, the ones in here don't understand how to process with the rest of society. Racism is not okay.  O0
Title: Re: Chinatown Los Angeles--Discrimination against Hmong
Post by: flint-rod on August 07, 2018, 12:22:23 PM
good for u... hit'em where it hurts the most... their pocket books... the few times i have been there... my mom likes to buy her fabrics from this middle eastern family...

anyway, if you feel strongly about that particular establishment's hatred towards you... do what u did... because only they know how many bad hmong folks (which there exist) have treated them horribly thus the backlash or vice versa...

anyway, thanks for the heads up but if that particular store has something i want... your experience isn't going to deter me from shopping there unless i myself experience it first hand too...

i can tell you about all of the horrible experiences i have gone through with varying establishments but that would be too long... so my solution to my problems have always been... a one and done... and believe me you... there have been a lot of establishments across all races...
Title: Re: Chinatown Los Angeles--Discrimination against Hmong
Post by: Believe_N_Me on August 14, 2018, 10:13:02 PM
Good for you to call them out. Include photos, too, if you have any. I'm tired of racist Chinese and Koreans - ESPECIALLY THE SAME ONES WHO WOULD CRY RACISM IF IT WERE A WHITE PERSON.

All the people telling you to get over it are probably the same ones who would make a big fat stink if it were a white person.

BE SURE TO POST YOUR EXPERIENCE TO THE PUBLIC AND ESPECIALLY TO THAT RACIST TRASH, B.ITCH, SARAH JEONG.

Every bit of opportunity I get to BLAST A RACIST CHINESE or KOREAN, I DO SO WITH GLEE.

Let's get real here. If America is too f.ucking racist for them, these chinks can go back to their country - YEAH THE SAME ONE IN WHICH THEY TRIED TO ANNIHILATE THE HMONG.
 
Title: Re: Chinatown Los Angeles--Discrimination against Hmong
Post by: Gucci K on August 15, 2018, 07:44:40 AM
THATS IT!!!  I'mma go protest..no more chinese buffets and/or korean bbq's.  the only thing i'll do is...a chinese girl or korean woman!