Before I Die...

[chidorix0x]

ChidoriX0X,

Can you please read over the list of the protective spirits Yag posted and see if you agree or disagree on the accuracy? If agree, then just leave it. If not, then elaborate. Or if there are any missing then name them.

And please let's just stay focus in this thread. Leave the H'mung comments for later. No insult intended towards you here. I just want us not to get distracted for the time being, that's all.

...  kekeke  ...   

See how ha'ignorant, ha'gullible, and ha'naive most/ALL of you HA'Mung are (is and have become -- being so whitewashed/skewled in Angleesh only  ...   / )  ...  KEKEKE  ...   

FYI, I always read through most/ALL posts/comments before I reply (rectify/amend) the OP's rhetoric (babbling)  ...  kekeke  ...   /   Y do u think I recommended (advised) that anyone (esp. all of you HA'Mung who truly cares to know the truth vesus hearsay -- being inherent ignoramus, and/or so gullible at the first utter of plausible "BS") whether by me, Yag, or any self-proclaimed Hmong/Mong/HA'Mung brainchild  ...  KEKEKE  ...     ...  do a LITTLE or A LOT of fact-finding yourself.  DUH! Dolt!

As for your question, regarding Yag's list:  " dab rooj txag, qhov cub, qhov txo, qhov rooj, ntuj dab (the main spirit pillar of the house), xwm kab, plag xua (each of them has a specific duty) ", this Neanderthal was just RATTLLING off everyday Hmong/Mong verbiage to sound endowed ( / )  ...  kekeke  ...    

Ha'HINT:
There is/are NO SUCH thing as " dab rooj txag, qhov cub, qhov txo, qhov rooj, ntuj dab ..." in terms of spirituality (NO explanation warranted)  -- that is pure "BS".  Pretty sure this POSER was trying to refer to "Npua Dab Roog", "Ncej Dab Qhua", "Dab Rooj Txua Rooj Tag", and a few others I forget, MOST of which are NO LONGER practiced/practical today in the Modern Era  ...  kekeke  ...   

[YeejKoob13]

Yag and others, nej txhob xiam sijhawm tham nrog niag Cobtsib Nyablaj zaum-thaj-tso-quav ntawd od. Nws twb tsis yog Hmoob thiab nws txhob txwm thab kom nej npautaws xwb.

[chidorix0x]

no one is selling books...becaus e there is no books to be sold.  these things are from stories of the elders...and from personal observatoin...not from scholars who actually do not know what they are talking about.  it is sad that if the first author is wrong, then whoever cites the first author will also be wrong.

what i talk about are basic knowledge of mong (not from mistakes of assumptions)...do you know remember i said "oh my god...you need help" on my first thread?

...  kekeke  ...     ...  KEKEKE  ...   /   ...   

The POSER's true colors are blaring now  ...  kekeke  ...   

FACT 1:
YES, there are plenty of scholarships (aka BOOKS) by renowned researchers (Hmong and non-Hmong alike) regarding most/ALL matters Hmong -- specifically its culture, customs, and rituals.  (As a matter of FACT, I own several of them  ...  KEKEKE  ...   )  ***  We are in fact in the process of writing one, coming soon, for most/ALL of you ha'primitive ha'ignorant HA'Mung  ...  kekeke  ...   

FACT 2: 
Basic knowledge of Mong EQUALS "BS", more often than not, ...  kekeke  ...   

[NeejYagHawj]

i think he's reliving pms...it's weird, i never knew that some boys go through that.

[FetishDream]

i think he's reliving pms...it's weird, i never knew that some boys go through that.

What is weird is that you got spot checked.  You said no books but dixwalrus said there are plenty of books.   

[YeejKoob13]

ChidoriX0X,

Koj yog ib tug paub peb Hmoob tej kevaci ces koj qhia rau peb xwb lod mad. Ibyam li ib tug tij qhia rau tus kwv es tsis paub qabhau xwb od mog. Yog peb sibceg ces nws ua distraction rau peb lawm nad. Kuv tsuas hais zoo zoo li no xwb od. Txhob chim mad. Kuv xav paub xav kawm xwb nad.

[NeejYagHawj]

whatever books he's referring to, i do not know....

as for that pms guy, i doubt he knows anything...i'm sure he read a few books like everyone else...but so far, i see no sign of knowledge about hmoob kev cai...

[NeejYagHawj]

is it customary to post those "laughing" cartoon things after a sentence in here? 

[chidorix0x]

ChidoriX0X,

Koj yog ib tug paub peb Hmoob tej kevaci ces koj qhia rau peb xwb lod mad. Ibyam li ib tug tij qhia rau tus kwv es tsis paub qabhau xwb od mog. Yog peb sibceg ces nws ua distraction rau peb lawm nad. Kuv tsuas hais zoo zoo li no xwb od. Txhob chim mad. Kuv xav paub xav kawm xwb nad.

...  kekeke  ...   

Yog muaj tseeb lid koj cov lus koj tau HAIS ces kuj mus kawm xwb -- txhob mloog mloog/ntseeg ntseeg lus huab lus cua lus ntaug lus xaiv.  Tsis tas kuv los tus ub tus nod tham pem rau koj pob ntseg os nawb.  Cov txwj laus neeg muaj coob ntau tus.  (How do you think I learned -- in addition to the scholarships I read/researched?)  Hmoob piv txwv tias, "Cuag lid tshuab raj rau twm pob ntseg xwb." (If that is your learning methodology then more power to ya  ...  KEKEKE  ...   )  Nyaj koj nkag siab lo lus ntawd yom  ...  KEKEKE  ...   

[NeejYagHawj]

chi..

putting kiddish, pms attitude away...

can you shed some light on why peb ho laig xeeb tebchaws and why it is important to a hmong man?

[YeejKoob13]

...  kekeke  ...   

Yog muaj tseeb lid koj cov lus koj tau HAIS ces kuj mus kawm xwb -- txhob mloog mloog/ntseeg ntseeg lus huab lus cua lus ntaug lus xaiv.  Tsis tas kuv los tus ub tus nod tham pem rau koj pob ntseg os nawb.  Cov txwj laus neeg muaj coob ntau tus.  (How do you think I learned -- in addition to the scholarships I read/researched?)  Hmoob piv txwv tias, "Cuag lid tshuab raj rau twm pob ntseg xwb." (If that is your learning methodology then more power to ya  ...  KEKEKE  ...   )  Nyaj koj nkag siab lo lus ntawd yom  ...  KEKEKE  ...   

Tshuab raj rau twm pob ntseg tso mad,,, tshuab tas es twm tsis txais tau ua niag nyuj nyam xwb mad koj mad tshev (Moob Leeg lolus) twm los tau nawb.

Kuv tus kheej mas kuv yeej nrog cov laus tham lawm thiab od. Tiamsis kuv tsuas xav muab compare lawv cov lus thiab nej cov lus uake seb puas txawv qhov twg. Yog qhov twg muaj txawv lossis contradiction nod ces peb yuav tsum muab los sablaj uake thiab nrhiav txoj kev los kho nws kom sibhaum thiaj zoo,,, es tawvdawb lossis cov Hmongkey ntseeg Tshawj thiaj tsis muaj lus lo tojxub peb haistias peb muaj tej niag mistakes/contradictions ualuaj nyob hauv peb tej Kevcai nod xwb od mog.

Peb Hmoob cov nkagsiab nod tsis pab cawm peb Hmoob tug sis peb ciali yuav swb rau tawvdawd cov dabneeg Yesxus li laiv. Peb cov Hmoob es tseem muaj kev nco txog peb qhov national duty thiab hlub peb haiv sis yuav tsum sibpab nrhiav tswyim nawb... Kuv tsuas hais li nod xwb.

[chidorix0x]

...  kekeke  ...   

Yag,
Such a petty question.  But whatever yo.  It is important to a Hmong man (if he is getting married via tradition), kom mus dawb rov hu -- kom tau ntoj tau thuv, simply put.  Other than that, it is whatever you want it to be (as there is/are NOT any other application/purpose).

Koob13,
Koj cov lus tsis yog koj xwb thiab xav tau los sis xav kom muaj kev haum xeeb rau peb haiv Hmoob nrog lwm haiv.  Tiam sis kuv tsuas teb qhia koj me me lid nod xwb.  Lo lus nod yog koj tau nrog cov laus tham lid koj tau hais ces koj yeej paub zoo lawm.  Hmoob yeej piv txwv ib lo lus tias, "Ib roob teb ib yam txwj."  Vim peb haiv Hmoob tsis swm ib tug cai (standardizatio n).  Koj ua koj kuv ua kuv -- raws lid yus kawm, paub, thiab nyiam xwb.  Twb tsis kam hloov, kho, thiab sib txhawb lid rau ib txoj cai/standard.  Thaum zoo lid nod lawm ces tsis hais koj, kuv, los leej twg -- yeej pab/kho tsis tau lawm nawb.  Qhov kuv pom los sis niaj hnub nod tshwm sim zuj zus ces yog ua HA'Mung lawm xwb  ...  kekeke  ...   /   ...  KEKEKE  ...     Tsis yog hais dag nawb.  Yeej muaj tseeb lid ntawd lawm.  Tom ntej nod mus ces cov HA'Mung yuav yog cov coob ov.  Hos cov Hmoob/Moob ces yuav tu noob zuj zus  ...  kekeke  ...   

[NeejYagHawj]

did you even read the question?

i guess the other guy is wrong about you.  i really thought you know whatyou're talking about.

[chidorix0x]

...  kekeke  ...   

Yag,
U admitted yourself, "U only have BASIC knowledge." -- via sideline observation most likely; thus no one should expect u comprehend, much less have formal knowledge/insight like those who actually have trained/apprenticed, researched (academically and nrog cov txwj laus neeg tham/kawm/qhia), plus practice the culture/customs/rites on a regular basis   ...  KEKEKE  ...   

Don't tell me/us, you "laig xeeb tebchaws" religiously like Muslims praying 5X daily  ...  kekeke  ...   /

[NeejYagHawj]

chi...give it up brother...you're been outwitted and outknowledged. ..

one of this day, when you really want to know why we do it, then i will tell you.  but, just so you can better prepared next time..here is a hint...why do we laig mom/dad/x/y/z?  and not a rock? a tree?  or someone else from another clan....

good night