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General Category => Hmong Culture & History => Hmong Stories => Topic started by: HmongKnight on May 05, 2011, 11:25:59 PM
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Somewhere in the 80s in Thailand there were a river lake near Chiengmai. They said that in this lake there were many swimmers that got killed by a "Zaj". No matter how good of a swimmer they are, they will die once they try to swim accross this lake. So far there has been many Hmong great swimmer that died in this lake.
One day a Thai swimmer heard about the story and came over. He then wanted to prove to the hmong that there's no "Zaj" and that hmong are not good swimmer. Therefore, he went in and try to swim accross it. As he got to the middle, he then drawn and disappear and died. The Thai government got involved when they heard about the great Thai swimmer died in the lake. Therefore, they came over and drained the whole lake down to the bottom... and guess what they found.... THree giant Electric EELS...
SO, THERE'S YOUR HMONG ZAJ.. ELECTRIC EELS.
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Cool story bro, Now debunk the myth in the bible.
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realism: what part of the bible do you want me to debunk?? there are so many of them..
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Any
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Thanks. That's really interesting. I wonder if they took a pic of the eels.
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Some people can't handle the truth and they don't want to know the truth.
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what you need to prove this theory? ask Michael Phelps to go swim there back and forth and see if he make it back in one piece. Phelps is the true specimen to prove your theory because he's the #1 swimmer. if he fail to come back in one piece damn it Zaj are real but if not your story is a fake and a big FAIL
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what you need to prove this theory? ask Michael Phelps to go swim there back and forth and see if he make it back in one piece. Phelps is the true specimen to prove your theory because he's the #1 swimmer. if he fail to come back in one piece damn it Zaj are real but if not your story is a fake and a big FAIL
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Buster_me, HmongKnight is trying to tell us how that zaaj haav dlej was debunked.
According to what he wrote, the Thai govt. found 3 giant eels in the lake, so whether it be Michael Phelps or some other great swimmer, their fates would have turned out the same, just like those who passed away in that lake.
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what you need to prove this theory? ask Michael Phelps to go swim there back and forth and see if he make it back in one piece. Phelps is the true specimen to prove your theory because he's the #1 swimmer. if he fail to come back in one piece damn it Zaj are real but if not your story is a fake and a big FAIL
Put 3 giants electric eels in a swimming pool and if Michael Phelsp can make it through, then there is such thing as a "Zaj". But if Michael Phelps can't make it through, then the hmong "Zaj" is nothing but electric eels.
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Buster_me, HmongKnight is trying to tell us how that zaaj haav dlej was debunked.
According to what he wrote, the Thai govt. found 3 giant eels in the lake, so whether it be Michael Phelps or some other great swimmer, their fates would have turned out the same, just like those who passed away in that lake.
exactly that the proof. if he couldn't make it, no one can. theory solve. Phelps better think he's aiming for the world record if he doesn't want to get swallow up haha
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A guy actually got his Ph.D. for doing some research on dragons. After reading about and talking to people around the world, his conclusion: they are no more than a myth but they are fascinating imaginative figures in history.
I don't know why kumodo dragons are called dragons. They are just land lizards to me. We hunted them and ate them back in Laos. There are Hmong CD's and VHS videos of Hmong hutners taking them down as games for foods. Find the videos at your local flea markets. Or they'll be coming there again soon.
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No official pics No care ;D
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A guy actually got his Ph.D. for doing some research on dragons. After reading about and talking to people around the world, his conclusion: they are no more than a myth but they are fascinating imaginative figures in history.
I don't know why kumodo dragons are called dragons. They are just land lizards to me. We hunted them and ate them back in Laos. There are Hmong CD's and VHS videos of Hmong hutners taking them down as games for foods. Find the videos at your local flea markets. Or they'll be coming there again soon.
that saliva is poison
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Some people can't handle the truth and they don't want to know the truth.
Some ppl FAIL, big time, unless you youreslf had ever encoutered ppl dorwning. You'll only want to believe in what you wanna heard. Zaj has many forms, I guess that the 3 eel wasn't perpare for that. Therefore couldn't go hiding. And got caught.
Knight, was there a mention on how big these eel were?
Or were they just commonly big like the lenght of my legs from hip to toes. Which is about 3-4 ft. I'm 5"5ft.
I've encouter ppl drowning here in MN. There is a famous lake here about ppl drowning, mostly hmong ppl.
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Some ppl FAIL, big time, unless you youreslf had ever encoutered ppl dorwning. You'll only want to believe in what you wanna heard. Zaj has many forms, I guess that the 3 eel wasn't perpare for that. Therefore couldn't go hiding. And got caught.
Knight, was there a mention on how big these eel were?
Or were they just commonly big like the lenght of my legs from hip to toes. Which is about 3-4 ft. I'm 5"5ft.
I've encouter ppl drowning here in MN. There is a famous lake here about ppl drowning, mostly hmong ppl.
Bro, Knight was just telling a story, so don't worry about it and its not the truth anyway, no links no evidence no real, just a story..but a cool one
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Zaj are supposed to be spirit form and they take your spirit without you even knowing. In physical form your body is drowned so that the living believes you drown. If and when a living human is able to see with sight of the dragon it is because that dragon is weak and has weaken or dying and the magic it has drained.
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that saliva is poison
Hehe
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Hehe
I got story, this took place in china. There are pix and a link, i'll try to get tat site from the landury mat. On rice street in st. paul. This is a hmong washing place. Anyways there was this lake, and ppl kept drowing when ppl go swiming. Long story short, so many ppl drowning, and the chinese were scare cuz this was a popular swiming place. Ao the chinese drained the lake and found a huge huge cat fish. I ran into that photo when I was washing my stuff there. Any one seen that photo. Or read the artcial.
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Before anything Thai gov going to drain any lake with that many people die in it. They have to go throught
the buddha thingy first. Thai gov doesn't just drain thing out of no where like that. Thai people
believe in craps like that as much as Hmong people. Look at all the thai important buildings, they all
had dragon protecting it, including the king castle.
I do heard Hmong rumor that there's such lake like that some where in Chiengmai. The water is very pure and clear, before a prince become a king he has to go to the lake and drink some water and use the water to wash his face from that lake. What do I know it has been proved by HmongKinght story already.
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Some ppl FAIL, big time, unless you youreslf had ever encoutered ppl dorwning. You'll only want to
believe in what you wanna heard. Zaj has many forms, I guess that the 3 eel wasn't perpare for
that. Therefore couldn't go hiding. And got caught.
Knight, was there a mention on how big these eel were?
Or were they just commonly big like the lenght of my legs from hip to toes. Which is about 3-4 ft.
I'm 5"5ft.
I've encouter ppl drowning here in MN. There is a famous lake here about ppl drowning, mostly
hmong ppl. ]/b]
There's a reason why the chinese folks doing drangon boat festival every year at that lake too. Why
would they choose that lake when there's bigger lake out there. Another section of that lake with connect
to a bigger lake is where the home is. That lake is the front door of the spirits around that area there.
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Some ppl FAIL, big time, unless you youreslf had ever encoutered ppl dorwning. You'll only want to
believe in what you wanna heard. Zaj has many forms, I guess that the 3 eel wasn't perpare for
that. Therefore couldn't go hiding. And got caught.
Knight, was there a mention on how big these eel were?
Or were they just commonly big like the lenght of my legs from hip to toes. Which is about 3-4 ft.
I'm 5"5ft.
I've encouter ppl drowning here in MN. There is a famous lake here about ppl drowning, mostly
hmong ppl. ]/b]
There's a reason why the chinese folks doing drangon boat festival every year at that lake too. Why
would they choose that lake when there's bigger lake out there. Another section of that lake with connect
to a bigger lake is where the home is. That lake is the front door of the spirits around that area there.
Wow I never knew that, I knew that they do that boat thingy over there. I just learnd something new
Tx. Fish head
+1 for you
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There are many reasons why a person drown and die from lakes and rivers. Most of the time is due to the lack of swimming skills. But what I talked about above is about grown men and women that are very good at swimming. When there are several good swimmers die from a lake or river, we have to look deep inside the lake or river and see what we find. In the cast I mentioned above is a case where they found electric eels inside the lake. Other cases may be due to different reasons.
There was a lake in southern california where several teenagers have drown and died. The reason for the drowning are based on couple of things. First of all, the lake is way too cold in the middle. Even if the temperature is 100 degrees in the city, the middle of the lake's temperature is about 20-30 degrees. Some of them die of heart frozen or something. Secondly, in the middle of the lake has thingly weeds. Most dead teenagers probable got panics when their feet got tangled by the weeds and lost air breathe and drown. Lastly, the lake is a still lake and it does not have little waves to push you abroad. If you're not a good swimmer it's kinda hard to swim to shore because water molecules tend to hold onto you unless you're a good swimmer and break that kinda water draggings.
The bottom line is, don't blame every death at lakes or rivers because of different forms of Dragons.. NO such thing as ZAJ.
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I got story, this took place in china. There are pix and a link, i'll try to get tat site from the landury mat. On rice street in st. paul. This is a hmong washing place. Anyways there was this lake, and ppl kept drowing when ppl go swiming. Long story short, so many ppl drowning, and the chinese were scare cuz this was a popular swiming place. Ao the chinese drained the lake and found a huge huge cat fish. I ran into that photo when I was washing my stuff there. Any one seen that photo. Or read the artcial.
So, the cat fish ate the Hmong swimmers?
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How do you explain Phalen Lake's takings of pairs of toddlers every time? There have been at least 3 cases like that in the last two decades at Lake Phalen in St. Paul.
Similarly, MN's records show that Lake Phalen and Foster Arendt Lake (Rochester) have drowned people the most. Both of these lakes are man-made lakes, not natural lakes. Any explanations on that?
There are many reasons why a person drown and die from lakes and rivers. Most of the time is due to the lack of swimming skills. But what I talked about above is about grown men and women that are very good at swimming. When there are several good swimmers die from a lake or river, we have to look deep inside the lake or river and see what we find. In the cast I mentioned above is a case where they found electric eels inside the lake. Other cases may be due to different reasons.
There was a lake in southern california where several teenagers have drown and died. The reason for the drowning are based on couple of things. First of all, the lake is way too cold in the middle. Even if the temperature is 100 degrees in the city, the middle of the lake's temperature is about 20-30 degrees. Some of them die of heart frozen or something. Secondly, in the middle of the lake has thingly weeds. Most dead teenagers probable got panics when their feet got tangled by the weeds and lost air breathe and drown. Lastly, the lake is a still lake and it does not have little waves to push you abroad. If you're not a good swimmer it's kinda hard to swim to shore because water molecules tend to hold onto you unless you're a good swimmer and break that kinda water draggings.
The bottom line is, don't blame every death at lakes or rivers because of different forms of Dragons.. NO such thing as ZAJ.
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I wouldn't drink from a place where people have drowned in. What do those princes believe in anyway?
Before anything Thai gov going to drain any lake with that many people die in it. They have to go throught
the buddha thingy first. Thai gov doesn't just drain thing out of no where like that. Thai people
believe in craps like that as much as Hmong people. Look at all the thai important buildings, they all
had dragon protecting it, including the king castle.
I do heard Hmong rumor that there's such lake like that some where in Chiengmai. The water is very pure and clear, before a prince become a king he has to go to the lake and drink some water and use the water to wash his face from that lake. What do I know it has been proved by HmongKinght story already.
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No official pics No care ;D
How do you get a picture of a Zaj?
OK. Let me take that back. Here's one:
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We Hmong believe that this is an image of a Zaj rising up to drink water. One end of the rainbow is its tail; the other is its head. It's stretching across the mountain to drink water. There's usually drizzling at such times. Many people who have been at the tail end of it often see a crab with bubbles popping from its mouth, too.
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How do you explain Phalen Lake's takings of pairs of toddlers every time? There have been at least 3 cases like that in the last two decades at Lake Phalen in St. Paul.
Similarly, MN's records show that Lake Phalen and Foster Arendt Lake (Rochester) have drowned people the most. Both of these lakes are man-made lakes, not natural lakes. Any explanations on that?
#1 answer, todlers can't swim.
#2 answer, When a kid is drown, he/she tend to pull the closest person along with it.
#3 answer, many part of phaelem lake are very deep and steep along the cliff. When a person is too close to the edge, he/she might fall into the lake.
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We Hmong believe that this is an image of a Zaj rising up to drink water. One end of the rainbow is its tail; the other is its head. It's stretching across the mountain to drink water. There's usually drizzling at such times. Many people who have been at the tail end of it often see a crab with bubbles popping from its mouth, too.
Have you guys ever chase after a rainbow? if you never did, you should try one time and see if you notice anything different. As for my experience, I was driving home one day and saw a huge rainbow straight ahead of me, about 10 miles away. I drove the next 30 miles and the rainbow still looks 10 miles ahead of me. After another 30 miles on my drive then the rainbow start to fade away and disappear. If anyone can go to the head or tail of a rainbow and the rainbow doesn't move ahead of him/her, that person is a liar or crazy.
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Have you guys ever chase after a rainbow? if you never did, you should try one time and see if you notice anything different. As for my experience, I was driving home one day and saw a huge rainbow straight ahead of me, about 10 miles away. I drove the next 30 miles and the rainbow still looks 10 miles ahead of me. After another 30 miles on my drive then the rainbow start to fade away and disappear. If anyone can go to the head or tail of a rainbow and the rainbow doesn't move ahead of him/her, that person is a liar or crazy.
Back in Laos, when I was still a toddler, we would walk right under the rainbow. There was a huge abyss on the side of the road. One of the rainbow's tips rose right from that hole and stretched across the hills to the other side. There was a bit of sun shine and some drizzling. But we walked right under it and quickly rushed down the hill away from it. We didn't want it to curl around and collect us into the abyss. We covered ourselves with banana leaves so that it would not see us. Elders said umbrellas were best to be under, too. But in my case we didn't have umbrellas with us.
What you are describing is probably the sun or moon that seems to be just right on the rim of the mountain. That's how it looks like to the elders today and back 30 years ago. That's why during the lunar eclipse, they thought a monster is devouring the moon. In Laos, they used to shoot at the moon at such times--thinking their bullets had that range. ;D
NOTE: I don't believe the rainbow pictures are actually Zaj shadows, by the way. Dragons don't really want people to know where they are.
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#1 answer, todlers can't swim.
#2 answer, When a kid is drown, he/she tend to pull the closest person along with it.
#3 answer, many part of phaelem lake are very deep and steep along the cliff. When a person is too close to the edge, he/she might fall into the lake.
I'm talking about each pair successfully drowning every time. Why would Phalen take two at a time, that is? And these kids weren't holding onto one another. they were just drowned separately within yards from their other siblings within seconds of each other. They were also siblings each time, I believe.
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If that was the case, it would only be a coincidence. I don't think anybody really do a close investigation as to why it happen like that. I"m sure there's has to be a good explaination as to why it happen that way. If someone can just dig down from word of mouth to a factual evidence I think we'll know the truth.
Just like the sexual case in MN several years ago where the couple died from tangled. When they really dig to the truth for evidence, there's no truth to it.. it's all word of mouth.
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I'm not saying it's all true. I'm just looking for an explanation.
I'm thinking Phalen probably is too accessible to too many people, and so, given the law of big number, hehehe...you know what I mean. :2funny:
There was an old Hmong lady who came on the Hmong radio and said she actually saw two giant dragons standing at Lake Phalen at one time. I didn't buy that. I don't buy it even today. But I'm trying to get an explanation.
But how did we Hmong come up with all of these kinds of things if they weren't happening in real life? Good question.
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There was an old Hmong lady who came on the Hmong radio and said she actually saw two giant dragons standing at Lake Phalen at one time. I didn't buy that. I don't buy it even today. But I'm trying to get an explanation.
One thing about older people is that they take too much medicines, especially tylenol 3 and morphine. These two drugs can really make a person hallucinate. I know so because the last year before my mom pass away, she been taking these medicines and keep seeing things. She even saw those that had passed away come and chat with her in her room while I'm eating in the kitchen. There's one time when she came out and start yelling at me for banging on her door so loud and woke her up, but I did not knock on her door at all, I was on the computer browsing around in the internet that time. So i'm sure there are people who either want to see dragons so much that their mind play tricks on them.. or they are too afraid of dragons and anything that resemble dragons caught their eyes to fool them.
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So, the cat fish ate the Hmong swimmers?
Not really, it was mostly the native ppl that lived there. Mainly Chinese ppl and tourist ppl. But since it was a popular place and the Chinese didn't want to alarm ppl, so they took action before anything else happen. I believe it was a reservoir place... I was in St.Paul but I didn't get the chance to stop by that place.. When I do I'll need you guys help to post up the pix.
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Im not going swimming no more Haha! ;) ;) LOL
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Do us all hmong a favor and take your kids to your local pool for swimming lessons. In the end these are all stories to keep little hmong kids from messing around and drowning, adults too. Everyone should know how to swim, at least enough to save your own life. The worst thing is people panic, then flail around and eventually get a cramp. I've gotten one in the water before and it sucked, lucky i was in 3 feet of water only.
As for these stories, please cite your sources. They all sound like hearsay to me. Information should come from credible, non-biased sources in order for it to be beneficial.
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Do us all hmong a favor and take your kids to your local pool for swimming lessons. In the end these are all stories to keep little hmong kids from messing around and drowning, adults too. Everyone should know how to swim, at least enough to save your own life. The worst thing is people panic, then flail around and eventually get a cramp. I've gotten one in the water before and it sucked, lucky i was in 3 feet of water only.
As for these stories, please cite your sources. They all sound like hearsay to me. Information should come from credible, non-biased sources in order for it to be beneficial.
I don't think it matters if you're a good swimmer or not. My sister in law is a good swimmer and she accidently fell into the water one time where she said no matter how she tried, it felt like she lost all her skills and couldn't break through. Some guy had to go and rescue her. After she was rescued they asked why she jumped down and if she knew how to swim. She told them she's been swimming for a long time at the same place but she didn't know why that time she couldn't swim at all. It wasn't just her, she had a friend who had the same problem as well and was rescued at another lake nearby. But yes, please do take your children to take swimming lesson. It is a good lesson to learn.
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If you watch River Monsters Jeremy Wade provde all this. His latest episode talks about gaint electric eels.
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Dam i went to the washing clothe mat, in st. Paul. And the owner sold it to another hmong, all the news paper clips has been removed. Bummer.. was hopeing to take pix of it. Darn it.
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My cousin who was pulled into the water died of drowning. She and a friend were on the shore tossing water on each other then something grabbed her hands. She was found 2 hours later floating down river. what was so scary was that her friend pulled her hair when her friend fell into the water and still couldn't help the cousin. The cousin went into the water didn't even float, her body just went under. Later that died she came to her mom in a dream and asked her mom to help her because she didn't want to marry the zaj guy. This is a true story because I was at her funeral. This was in stockton back in 94-95.
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My cousin who was pulled into the water died of drowning. She and a friend were on the shore tossing water on each other then something grabbed her hands. She was found 2 hours later floating down river. what was so scary was that her friend pulled her hair when her friend fell into the water and still couldn't help the cousin. The cousin went into the water didn't even float, her body just went under. Later that died she came to her mom in a dream and asked her mom to help her because she didn't want to marry the zaj guy. This is a true story because I was at her funeral. This was in stockton back in 94-95.
I think I read your posting in the ghost story.
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Primitive peoples, especially elder folks, are known to overexaggerate things.
Lots of Hmong people without good swimming experience = high likelihood of someone drowning. Very simple, but you know how Hmong people are, they rather believe the urban legends like dragons.
My close cousin in Oklahoma drowned in waist high water. There was no wake wave, just a clam lake. Anywho a grown up dude drown in that water level. Now how do you explain that. Bro. No matter how good of a swimmer you may be, when the Zaj gets you. That's it, also when the it's your time to go. It's your time.
How do you explain this one too. I remember two hmong sister that drowned right under that bridge where you can overlook that park where hmong ppl plays volleyball. That water was no more higher then your knee. If I recall the incident. And I heard that the two sister were good ass swimmer.
There are forces at work here. Stuff that ppl can't explain so they shut it off in their heads, cause they don't wanna believe the truth.
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This title should be "The Hmong Myth of "Zaj hav dej" taking out "True" and "Behind".
O0 O0 O0 :D
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Apparently, dragons only come for Hmong people. It's your life, if you wanna stay ignorant and primitive, go for it.
I think that when other ppl like meekas and kadous, when they drown. ppl calls it drown. Cause they don't believe in stuff like we do. So they have no other explainable death. But death by drowning. Some meekas believe in what we are telling them. But to those that are ignorant reminds who they are. They are scare of the own known.
(Just like the UFO... I know that it's out there but I lie to myself that there are no UFO or smarter ppl out there then us, living on plant Earth)
So ppl who just tell themselves that there are no such things as Zaj out there.
I remember that Phalan Lake, when there was too many stuff going on about ppl drowning. The city sent some divers to look at the man made lake. To their surprise that lake has a lot of deep holes that lead to some other places. One lead to the Mississippi River and other they have no idea were it came from. But the meekas were afraid of going in there too.
Man made lakes only has deep and no other tunnels or huge holes that come from no where. Man made lakes are keep in records of how deep, how wide and ect. How ever that lake has grown much larger and deeper then what ppl first thought of.
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There is no physical evidence of the existence of these so called dragons/Zaj (whether spirit or in physical form) that pulls people under water.
For now my statement would be, death is due to drowning but the cause for drowning is unknown.
I'm an avid fishermen, spend many hours and days on the lakes and rivers (boat and off shore) - there just isn't enough evidence to prove any of the Zaj theories. (unless of course we're talking sea creatures, gators, etc - other predators that are known to attack human).
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Water is what killed a person.. not Zaj or Dragons. A person can die from waist high lake or river if he/she have the following illness; seizure, cramp, fatigue, fever, or any other illness that can cause that person to fall down and choked by water..
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Water is what killed a person.. not Zaj or Dragons. A person can die from waist high lake or river if he/she have the following illness; seizure, cramp, fatigue, fever, or any other illness that can cause that person to fall down and choked by water..
Well of course water killed the person aka asphyxia (caused by a liquid entering the lungs and preventing the absorption of oxygen leading to cerebral hypoxia and cardiac arrest) - What's unknown is what lead the person to drowning, whether it was foul play or a simple judgement error, etc.
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So by saying that.. do you guys believe in UFO? Whrn ppl say that they have been capture by sum small ppl. Do you believe 'em? Or you gonna say thay there are strange
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So by saying that.. do you guys believe in UFO? Whrn ppl say that they have been capture by sum small ppl. Do you believe 'em? Or you gonna say thay there are strange
It's the Government Kidnapping People ;D ;D
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It's the Government Kidnapping People ;D ;D
Zaj and UFO, some ppl believes in them and some ppl just don't wanna believe the truth and lie to themselves that there are no such things as Zaj..But I'm not gonna cram it in your heads to believe in Zaj(s). You believe in what you wanna believe.
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Have you guys heard of Lost Lake? The water is not that deep but a lot of people drown in that lake. The water is very cold so maybe some people die from the shock of the cold water? I duno...but, I will never camp out there. I heard it's very haunted.
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heard of Lost Lake cause i live in Fresno !! heard of meekas n other race seeing "asian" ppl wearing traditional clothes floating/standing on top , middle , of the river/lake on the Indian trial ..
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heard of Lost Lake cause i live in Fresno !! heard of meekas n other race seeing "asian" ppl wearing traditional clothes floating/standing on top , middle , of the river/lake on the Indian trial ..
O0 Lost Lake is haunted as people claim. I can't understand why there are so many drownings there.
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heard of dab dej?
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heard of Lost Lake cause i live in Fresno !! heard of meekas n other race seeing "asian" ppl wearing traditional clothes floating/standing on top , middle , of the river/lake on the Indian trial ..
Tell me more about that lake of your, I'm from MN I've only heard that lake threw PH. I did some searching on lost lake and found a story about that lake. PPL claims that these huge shadows comes out of the lake. (I'm gonna try something and see if it works).
http://www.weirdfresno.com/2010/09/strage-things-going-on-at-lost-lake.html
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And about my story in China.. I tried and it works. So here's another. IDK if the pix are fake but I do know that ppl drown. To me it's whale shark, But maybe the real photo is hidden from us. It's a cover up.
http://shanghaiist.com/2007/08/11/amazingly_huge.php
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heard of dab dej?
Do you mean spirits that lives in the sea?
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At Lost Lake, my cousin and his family went fishing one time. They went hiking and since it was getting dark, they decided to head back to the car. They were still on the trail when a female cop stopped them. The cop asked them not to go hiking so late and to get back to the car before the sun goes down. What makes it strange was the cop's belt was empty and covered in dirt. They all got creep out and ran to the car. My cousin turn back to look and the cop was gone.
Ive never seen anything strange at Lost Lake and I will never stay there after dark.
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Morninglory,
that was prostitute looking for money, man. Thhey should have some kinkysex with her rather than running awawy.
;D You should have sex with one if you see one at a lake like that.
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Morninglory,
that was prostitute looking for money, man. Thhey should have some kinkysex with her rather than running awawy.
I can see sting operation from a mile away. LOL
good thing they ran away, If they had stay longer they'll be on the front news paper. lol Sting operation at lost lake.
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like to try with gost once..haaaaaaa aaaa
Txhob hais hais os...ib ntsis los tiag tiag os. >:D
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Lost lake is cold because the water comes from the bottom of Friant Dam, it's basically the water at the bottom of Millerton Lake. Like said, the water is always very cold, even in tripe digit heat. A lot of people go into shock when they enter the water and then drown. Hmong ppl aren't the only ones who say that Lost Lake is haunted, a bunch of meeka know too. That's the weird thing, I wanna find out why everyone seems to know that something weird is going on there. Not just hmong and meeka, chinese, korean, mexican etc... it's really weird.
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Oh and lost lake isn't a lake, it's a stream haha
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Here's some stories of Lost Lake I found on the net:
One witness and their sister in-law were fishing late one evening alone at one of the day beach areas. The witness reported that as they were shining their flashlight on an island across the water, they saw a dark figure moving in the brush. At first they figured it was a coyote or something, but then realized it was too big to be an animal. Just as they were about to turn off their flashlight, the light hit the figure. It appeared to be a young Asian boy, perhaps four feet tall, pale, and only wearing swim trunks. Right as the flashlight was turned off, the person heard a large splash like something heavy was thrown into the water. The witness claims it couldn't have been a fish as whatever it was made a loud splash. They then turned the flashlight back on and searched the area for the little boy, but found nothing. Spooked by this incident, both parties left in a hurry and have never gone back.
The second incident comes from the same two people mentioned before, but this time at a different location in the park. Once again they were fishing late one night, this time off of the broken bridge. Both were talking as their poles were in the water when they looked down towards the water and noticed a large figure in the water swimming to shore. When it reached land, it beached itself and stayed motionless for several minutes. What happened next terrified the two witnesses. Whatever it was, it then stood up on two legs and began to walk around as if it was searching for something. They estimated it was about five feet tall, but couldn't really make out any features as it was so dark. The creature then crouched down on all fours, layed on it's belly and then slithered back into the water and disappeared. Both witnesses were terrified and needless to say, got the hell out of there.
So here we have two seperate types of incidents at the same (generally) location and by the same witnesses. Two possibilities here. One is that whoever told the story is fabricating it, but given the ghost sighting and the stories I've heard about Lost Lake I'm not sure. There's been stories of a young hmong boy hanging himself from one of the trees there as well as several other suicides. Could the ghost they saw have been the same little boy that hung himself?
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Do you mean spirits that lives in the sea?
It's kind of scary when one thinks about it. I've never encountered anything frightening like that when I use to live there and when we use to go fishing at Lost Lake. I only have fond memories of it. Because so many deaths and drownings have happened at Lost Lake, Hmong believe that there might be a "xyw" that lives in the lake, nws pheej tsis txawm mus thawj thiab, so the "xyw" will remain in the lake until another unfortunate soul drowns to replace his. Kind of like a soul replacement, it repeats.
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Oh and lost lake isn't a lake, it's a stream haha
Manzanita is not a lake .. its a river/stream like body water n still its called a "lake"
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Did you people hear about that Hmong dude that drown in the Mississippi River in MN? If some one knows it better then me.. please correct me.
I kinda of heard a story about how he drowned.. It went like this. The dude went to the river and was crying for a couple of days. and that's when he went. So the families did that thing that Hmong people do to look for answers. What they found was that. When the dude was crying by the river for a couple of days.. The Zaj came and took his spirit.. Now I don't know if he jumped off a bridge or drowned by the shore... Anyways the Zaj told the Dude who was looking into the reason. The Zaj told him that in 3 days they will release his body and that the families can go find his body at this location. The Meekas people was also looking for the body for a while now. So the Zaj told the families to go to this place.. And so the mom and the sis went there and his body started to float up to the surface. Now that's freaky.
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that saliva is poison
Its not poison... :2funny: Bacteria.
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not sure if i believe in zaj. I want to and kinda do. :-\ there this one story that happened in thailand too. there was rumor that some villagers had caught a zaj, who can transformed himself into anything, but, after the zaj accidently got shock by the electricity near the lake, he then loss his power. therefore people was able to catch him. Heard he was sent to china for show. :-\ dunno if true. they sa y the zaj is still alive. uh, poor zaj.