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General Category => General Discussion => Topic started by: Buttercup on January 21, 2016, 12:31:23 AM
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Have you come across Hmong people who don't like their own culture and are xenocentric? How do you deal with them? Do you teach them?
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Have you come across Hmong people who don't like their own culture and are xenocentric? How do you deal with them? Do you teach them?
Depends...due to different variables, what I do can vary from individual to individual.
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Have you come across Hmong people who don't like their own culture and are xenocentric? How do you deal with them? Do you teach them?
Yes. I ignore them.
If a person doesn't have a problem with not liking their own people group, then I shouldn't try to make it into a problem. It's not my job to convince them otherwise because it's their life and their decision to make. Whether I agree or like their decision is irrelevant.
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Yes. I ignore them.
If a person doesn't have a problem with not liking their own people group, then I shouldn't try to make it into a problem. It's not my job to convince them otherwise because it's their life and their decision to make. Whether I agree or like their decision is irrelevant.
I have friends who ignore everything that is Hmong but follow all American traditions and holidays. They are neither religious or follow any Hmong cultural traditions like hu plig and jingle bells.
It is awkward to see them as Hmong, guess you can call them Asian American?
I like your approach. Said what I said in way shorter words.
Just mind your own business and yea. :)
Wish more people were like you.
- Now that I think of it. You can apply this to just about anything.
Mind your own business when it's such trivial matters that serves no significance to your life. Don't make it a bigger issue than it needs to be.
The world (atleast America) would be so much better if people would just mind their own business on such trivial matters.
We can ignore them and mind our own business but is it our responsibility as a HMONG person to guide them back to their roots? The American tradition is a compilation of many different cultures from around the world not just one if you really look at it. Kind like how we've borrowed ideas, words, and traditions from other Asian cultures and adopted them into Hmong tradition—how do we even know that our traditions were originated by Hmong people? Most of our history is by word of mouth.
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You can't do nothing. Whatever you preach goes in one ear and out the other. Their mind is already made up. You can't help a person who don't want help bcus change have to come from them first. Even when they know you are right they will have excuses and reasons to back up their BS. Sad, but oh well you can't save everybody.
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Have you come across Hmong people who don't like their own culture and are xenocentric? How do you deal with them? Do you teach them?
Lyn has met a few but they had their reason. Only thing Lyn could do for them is to respect who they are. In times maybe they will become a someone of interest for Lyn. ;)
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Have you come across Hmong people who don't like their own culture and are xenocentric? How do you deal with them? Do you teach them?
Culture as in religion? History? Proud to be Hmong?
As a Hmong woman in today's society, how do you feel about Hmong always suppress their female counter part as 2nd class citizen as part of their culture?
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Overly stating the obvious but let them be. Everyone is due their own slice of the proverbial pie.
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You can't do nothing. Whatever you preach goes in one ear and out the other. Their mind is already made up.
Agree for some, just like how you can't stop cheating spouse that already made up their mind.
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I had a White Professor that is ashamed of being White because of what his people have done to the natives...For him, I don't say anything because he formed an educated opinion on the matter...not just spewing ignorance.
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The Hmong culture so the primitive, me no like.
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I donut caring.
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I no k, not I phov-blem...they can let live and hate their culture as they like. They still ha mung. :2funny:
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What exactly do you mean culture? Like they don't like attending Hmong New Year? Not liking tying the strings around birthday boy's hands? Give us an example please. It's too broad...
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Kind of like Stacey Dash wanting BET and Black History month wiped away? I feel sorry for her and people who thinks like her.
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Must be the redneck influences from their own environment that is talking silly like that. I mean as long as they continued to stay where they are at, they can denounce their own hmong culture and they can get away with it. Like brenda xiong, some say that she's a hmong hater but as long as she stays in hollywood, we don't care. I have not seen her in hmong country Fresno or mn and if she dares to show her so called hmong hating face there, you hmongs can put her in her place.
People who knows can also realized. IT just makes no sense that a hmong hating hmong would hate you hmongs and when my viet people from the midwest sees this type of hmong, we would laugh our azz off. Why? Well simple putted. No matter what you think you do, you are still another china looking man and someone out there will hate on you too. ha :2funny:
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Have you come across Hmong people who don't like their own culture and are xenocentric? How do you deal with them? Do you teach them?
... kekeke ... :2funny:
U musTARD meanerds DUH-uh-Ha'Mung ha'primitive ha'ignorant ha'clueless ha'idioctic HA'MUNG ha'ranting HA'MUNGINGLY ha'nonsense ha'incessantly who are oblivious not only to Hmong but reality period given they are ha'primitive ha'ignorant ha'clueless ha'idioctic ha'edumacated HA'MUNG ha'twits ... KEKEKE ... >:D
Oh! I seriously doubt the bulk of you (Ha'Mung in your own right) even knows what Hmong culture/customs is and are, much less practicing any part of it, nor understand any of it ... kekeke ... ::)/ 8)
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Must be the redneck influences from their own environment that is talking silly like that. I mean as long as they continued to stay where they are at, they can denounce their own hmong culture and they can get away with it. Like brenda xiong, some say that she's a hmong hater but as long as she stays in hollywood, we don't care. I have not seen her in hmong country Fresno or mn and if she dares to show her so called hmong hating face there, you hmongs can put her in her place.
People who knows can also realized. IT just makes no sense that a hmong hating hmong would hate you hmongs and when my viet people from the midwest sees this type of hmong, we would laugh our azz off. Why? Well simple putted. No matter what you think you do, you are still another china looking man and someone out there will hate on you too. ha :2funny:
Once people reach a certain status their social group changes and they no longer associate with their inferior counterparts. You see it all across the board with all other groups of people. The divide between the rich and poor is getting bigger.
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Yalls talking about Brenda Song huh?
Yeap.... she turned heels on us!
Brenda!!! Come back!!!
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You know what's funnie....
I think it's funnie...
I don't know if it's happened or not.. or happening... or whatever ....
But I think it'd be funnie if they were looking at hmongs as less than them, or like 2nd class citizen's to them.
Isn't that just crazy and wild? At the same time, they are hmongs themselves! Oh wells.
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Have you come across Hmong people who don't like their own culture and are xenocentric? How do you deal with them? Do you teach them?
I have come to know many and even become one myself (you guys probably knew why) but then I came to realize that I am who I hate so no point in hating any more. ;D
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Have you come across Hmong people who don't like their own culture and are xenocentric? How do you deal with them? Do you teach them?
Because this person wants to live life their way, this is a problem because?
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Kind of like Stacey Dash wanting BET and Black History month wiped away? I feel sorry for her and people who thinks like her.
You obviously did not get the point she was making. ::) I feel sorry for you. Actually, I kind of don't.
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Have you come across Hmong people who don't like their own culture and are xenocentric? How do you deal with them? Do you teach them?
For a lot of Hmong people, this is their culture now. That one is a culture foreign to them.
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Have you come across Hmong people who don't like their own culture and are xenocentric? How do you deal with them? Do you teach them?
I have friends who ignore everything that is Hmong but follow all American traditions and holidays. They are neither religious or follow any Hmong cultural traditions like hu plig and jingle bells.
It is awkward to see them as Hmong, guess you can call them Asian American?
We can ignore them and mind our own business but is it our responsibility as a HMONG person to guide them back to their roots? The American tradition is a compilation of many different cultures from around the world not just one if you really look at it. Kind like how we've borrowed ideas, words, and traditions from other Asian cultures and adopted them into Hmong tradition—how do we even know that our traditions were originated by Hmong people? Most of our history is by word of mouth.
This is the very first thing you have to do. You must first, change yourself. Change the way you see them. You said that it is your responsibility as a hmong person to guide them back to their hmong roots. Well, right now you don't even see them as hmong. You can either,
1. Ignore them. You can not guide someone back to his/her hmong roots if they are not hmong.
Or
2. Acknowledge them as being hmong , then you can start from there.
Just because they do not practice "hmong" religion, or traditions does not mean that they are not hmong nor that they don't know their hmong roots and where they came from. If you were to wear American clothes and stand next to another hmong person who is wearing hmong clothes but practice Islam, which one of you looks more like a "hmong person? " If a hmong person has more knowledge in hmong history and culture than you, is he more than you? Can you guide him to his hmong roots? Or can he guide you better to your hmong roots.
If you feel that it is your responsibility to guide someone to back to their hmong roots, consider what I wrote above first before you even approach them on this subject.
When approaching them on this matter, acknowledge them as a follow hmong. Know their reasons why they don't like the hmong culture. How much knowledge do they have when it comes to the hmong culture and its history. And last of all, once they made the choice of learning more about the hmong culture, you can now start. Just remember not preach to them, instead, have a discussion.
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Just ignore them and let them be. People that do not conformed to their clan or family customs, they belong to the "trailer trash" category.