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General Category => Debate Central => Topic started by: duckwingduck on March 03, 2016, 12:50:06 PM
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But Donald Trump makes it even clearer. At least the GOP establish tries to hide their racism. Trump throws it out in the open. This is why minority who votes for republicans are like blacks joining KKK.
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They have no shame. And they wonder why Latinos and Blacks don't join their ranks.
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But Donald Trump makes it even clearer. At least the GOP establish tries to hide their racism. Trump throws it out in the open. This is why minority who votes for republicans are like blacks joining KKK.
I disagree... Trump is out there but the Dems are the ones that tries to hid their racism. Have you heard from Hillbilly lately? See how she tries so hard to pandered to the blacks by telling them she'll do whatever it takes to remove racism, but when they interrupted her... she goes all out putting them in their place.
I'll use your comparison here... Trump is like the KKK without his hood. Hillbilly/Sanders and the Dems establishments are like the KKK with their hoods on. No one knows who they are but we see bits and pieces of their racism coming out while they lose their control.
Actually... people who votes Dems are hidden racists. They have not come out of the closet yet... not all of them.
They have no shame. And they wonder why Latinos and Blacks don't join their ranks.
Don't be shocked to hear that there are Latinos, Blacks and Minorities that are Republicans. Mostly those that are more successful and educated. But you'll never hear about that because the Left media don't want the public to know that. Case in point, just this week an MSNBC was shocked that her network was interviewing a black supporter of Trump. She said, "Obviously the majority of Donald Trump's supporters are not African-American." But her interviewee (a black man) said, "I think we need to stop with all the racist stuff and all the race-baiting." This news anchor was stereotyping instead of listening to his view... much like most Dems supporters.
And we all know the biggest reason why majorities of Latinos, Blacks and minorities votes Dems... promise of citizenship, welfare, etc., etc.
Don't be fooled (some have already been) when Dems claims they are for the little guy, blacks and minorities. The last eight years, I've not seen much better for the little guy, blacks and minorities. Only those in Washington getting the better of everyone else. And the last I checked, those Dems in Washington are all part of the same 1% that these same Dems claimed are ruining the middle-class and poor.
Like I've said before... Dems are the new age "slave owners". Welfare, handout, entitlement gift are the new whip, chain, and noose.
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I'm referring to republicans. If you are a republican, you are likely to be a racist. Trump simply use racism to gain their votes since they are racists. I don't even know if trump himself is racist.
No idea where you got the idea that Clinton and Sanders are racists. Republicans are good at making up stuff. Trumps does this very well.
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They have no shame. And they wonder why Latinos and Blacks don't join their ranks.
A good majority of Blacks and Latinos are uneducated and ill-informed voters. They have gatekeepers who tell them which candidate to vote for. Most of the time these gatekeepers work in the public sector so naturally they are in favor of big government and expansion of entitlement programs. Another reason why Blacks and Latinos have switched to the Democratic Party is because they favor socials issues that give them entitlements. Latinos are culturally conservative but because they want to up their population in order to have the biggest voting block, immigration is a top priority for them. Obviously, that is going to conflict with the GOP who wants to secure the country's borders.
A lot of Democrats want to ignore their racist past even though they're the ones who actually instated racist laws like Jim Crow. They want to say that the GOP is racist because Conservative policies supposedly "target" minorities. But that isn't racism. All laws inadvertently hurt some groups in the process, but prove to me that it's actually "racist". They can't.
They also say, "well the KKK switched to the GOP." While it may be true that nowadays the KKK prefers the GOP over the Democrats, but it isn't really for the reasons that the Democrats claim. For centuries the south was dominated by the racist KKK Democrats. Government leaders like Democrat George Wallace abused their powers by intimidating blacks at the polls. The turnout for Republican voters were very low. In order to win the south, the GOP had to appeal to the white southerners - but they didn't do it by way of "racism". It wasn't like they were promising to exercise racism against people of color. By the way, the northern Democrats were already doing an excellent job of pushing out KKK when they decided to bring aboard minorities - but not because they cared about blacks or Latinos. It's because they implemented a new racist strategy equal to the slave plantations - WELFARE. They won minority votes by expanding WELFARE programs. Most minorities are just too stupid to realize this is exactly what keeps them poor and dependent on the government. KKK left the Democratic Party because they hate socialism and communism above everything else, which is what the Democratic party led by the north was turning into.
Anybody who believes and supports socialism or communism just isn't American. That's not what this country was built on. Any immigrant who thinks this country is a dumping site to get freebies need to be deported immediately. The only thing this country guarantees is the opportunity to try and lift yourself out of poverty. It doesn't guarantee that you will. If you're still struggling generation after generation then that has more to do with your poor money management skills and inability to make good life decisions.
Take for example: many first generation Hmong struggled not because they lacked English-speaking skills. It was because they married young, and continued to have large families despite working low-wage jobs. That is the recipe for failure in this country. Many of them, however, lucked out because of our strong Hmong family values. With the help of their parents, siblings, and relatives, coupled with good money management, many overcame their struggles by continuing with higher education and securing good jobs.
For anybody to say that minimum wage just doesn't cut it in this country, well they haven't met my parents. My folks could make money stretch because they have excellent money management skills. My parents believed that as long as there was incoming money, a person would never go poor and I believe them.
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Here's the data:
Nationally, almost one in five Republicans opposes interracial dating, compared to just one in 20 Democrats, according to the Pew Research Center. While 79 percent of Republicans agree with negative statements about blacks such as the one about slavery and discrimination, just 32 percent of Democrats do, the Associated Press has found.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2016/03/03/researchers-have-found-strong-evidence-that-racism-helps-the-gop-win/ (https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2016/03/03/researchers-have-found-strong-evidence-that-racism-helps-the-gop-win/)
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Don't be shocked to hear that there are Latinos, Blacks and Minorities that are Republicans.
Ugh...yeah I know. They have Rafael Cruz, Rubio, and crazy Ben...and oddly enough I know they have women too.
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Here's the data:
Nationally, almost one in five Republicans opposes interracial dating, compared to just one in 20 Democrats, according to the Pew Research Center. While 79 percent of Republicans agree with negative statements about blacks such as the one about slavery and discrimination, just 32 percent of Democrats do, the Associated Press has found.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2016/03/03/researchers-have-found-strong-evidence-that-racism-helps-the-gop-win/ (https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2016/03/03/researchers-have-found-strong-evidence-that-racism-helps-the-gop-win/)
Don't use facts on GOPers, they will simply ignore it or are too stupid to interpret the data/meaning.
For example, Asians are the wealthier and more educated group that vote overwhelming for Democrats. President Obama raked in 73% of Asian American votes in the last election. Yet the GOP just sits there confused. A group like that should be voting for them, but they aren't.
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Don't use facts on GOPers, they will simply ignore it or are too stupid to interpret the data/meaning.
For example, Asians are the wealthier and more educated group that vote overwhelming for Democrats. President Obama raked in 73% of Asian American votes in the last election. Yet the GOP just sits there confused. A group like that should be voting for them, but they aren't.
Here's what I see:
Republican supporters:
a) rich guys or corporations who stand to gain financially
b) racist white, uneducated white, and messed up minority who wish they were white
c) religious people who votes for any politician who will ban abortion
Democrat supporters
a) college professors and open mind people
b) poor uneducated people who benefits from democrat's policies on social programs
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They are saying the GOP establishment is making their voters pissed and now are voting for an outsider like Trump. I say that's wrong. The GOP establishment has tried to be political correct and tried very hard to cover up their racism. This does not please their voters who have much anger and hate toward non-white. Trump simply doing exactly what the voters want. The GOP establish has been too politically correct eventhough it is so obvious they are racist. They tried to not to recognize a black person as the US president. So they spent all their energies to undo whatever Obama did and now tried to take away his power as president to appoint a supreme court judge.
My college professor from South American (he's white) warns us ten years ago that when minority population reach 50%, there will be a lot of white men holding to their guns in paranoid. He warned that if we do not deal with the race issue, we will ultimately have a crash of races. Today, we are one step closer as politicians are starting to exploiting these fears and bigotry.
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Here's the data:
Nationally, almost one in five Republicans opposes interracial dating, compared to just one in 20 Democrats, according to the Pew Research Center. While 79 percent of Republicans agree with negative statements about blacks such as the one about slavery and discrimination, just 32 percent of Democrats do, the Associated Press has found.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2016/03/03/researchers-have-found-strong-evidence-that-racism-helps-the-gop-win/ (https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2016/03/03/researchers-have-found-strong-evidence-that-racism-helps-the-gop-win/)
Those points don't make a person racist. Wanting to date within your own group isn't racially motivated and having a negative opinion about others isn't racist either, especially if there is sufficient data to support the opinion. It's not surprising that a very liberal publication like "The Washington Post" would misconstrue findings from the Pew Research.
Liberals are bullies, plain and simple. They like to frame everything as racist, homophobic, or misogynist because they think they can shield the truth that way.
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Don't use facts on GOPers, they will simply ignore it or are too stupid to interpret the data/meaning.
For example, Asians are the wealthier and more educated group that vote overwhelming for Democrats. President Obama raked in 73% of Asian American votes in the last election. Yet the GOP just sits there confused. A group like that should be voting for them, but they aren't.
Liberals are the ones who don't understand how to interpret data. After all, you're the one who claimed that if a company had women earning less it meant there was unequal pay based on gender. You ignore all the other contributing factors as to why a woman might be getting paid less. :idiot2:
As far as why Asians voted Democrat in the last election is the same reason why they voted Republican in other elections. It all comes down to which political party runs a platform that is priority in their community. First of all, you were rather DUMB by bringing up stupid liberal issues that most Asians don't give a s.hit about. For example, Hmong parents who vote do not give a s.hit about gay marriage. Hmong OGs only care about entitle programs like SSI and welfare.
The reason why Asians voted heavily Democrat in the last election is because of immigration. There's a lot of undocumented Asians in the country and having stricter border control means many of their a.sses will be deported. This hurts many Asian businesses that employ illegals. Asians run a lot of shady businesses, which I know all too well. This wealth goes back to China. It's inevitably to help their country grow economically. As for why the younger Asians vote Democrat, well that isn't rocket science. They all attend the very LIBERAL universities, Berkeley being practically the most LIBERAL in addition to Yale and Harvard.
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Here's what I see:
Republican supporters:
a) rich guys or corporations who stand to gain financially
b) racist white, uneducated white, and messed up minority who wish they were white
c) religious people who votes for any politician who will ban abortion
Democrat supporters
a) college professors and open mind people
b) poor uneducated people who benefits from democrat's policies on social programs
What I see:
Republicans -
- People who want smaller government and the government to stay out of their business.
- People who don't want to see their paycheck dwindling away
Democrats -
- Crybabies who don't have their s.hit together and have too many personal issues they want everybody to care about and want to make it legally punishable for those who don't care about their personal issues
- Racist whites who would rather pay off minorities to stay out of their neighborhoods and schools
- Self-hating whites
- Whites who think it is their job to take care of everybody because they know what's best, plus, they can feel about how good and kind they are
- hippies who want to smoke weed all day long and loiter on public property because they don't have jobs
- irresponsible people who don't think they should be accountable for their actions
- tend to be slobs, unmotivated, lazy, and have no standards
- likes to play the victim
- always sees life as unfair because they don't get what they think they deserve
- WANT TO DO GOOD AND BE KIND ON SOMEONE ELSE'S DIME
People who don't have standards tend to be DEMOCRAT. That's why they are open to just about anything and they wonder why their life is always a circus. :idiot2:
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After all, you're the one who claimed that if a company had women earning less it meant there was unequal pay based on gender. You ignore all the other contributing factors as to why a woman might be getting paid less.
BnM, I schooled you already on this topic, I don't have the energy to do it again. Unlike you, I don't need to insert garbage to make it sound like other factors weren't considered. Any PHer can go back and reread it and they'll understand how desperate you are to sound intelligent.
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Here's what I see:
Republican supporters:
a) rich guys or corporations who stand to gain financially
b) racist white, uneducated white, and messed up minority who wish they were white
c) religious people who votes for any politician who will ban abortion
Democrat supporters
a) college professors and open mind people
b) poor uneducated people who benefits from democrat's policies on social programs
Jesus would have been a Democrate.
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Don't be so quick to judge people. What you see on TV is not fully indicative of their real personality. They have an audience, they have a boss, they have a job to do or a position to win, and they'll do what they have to.
I'm getting off topic, but you get my point. If you think that Hiliary and Bill Clinton would be happy to see Chelsea with a black man or a once-a-gay-man turned back to straight, you're out of your mind. If you secretly strapped a mic to Hiliary or any Democrat of your choice and listen to their conversations 24/7, I guarantee your mind would be blown. They are just people like you and I. I bet you talk to your family about how you don't have anything personal against blacks but you wouldn't want any family members to fall in love with them and bring them home. That doesn't make you racist, does it? No.
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Did you know that Abraham Lincoln was a Republican? In case anyone forgot, he issued the emancipation proclamation to eliminate slavery.
And did you know that the KKK's were originally Democratic?
Just some history. :)
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Did you know that Abraham Lincoln was a Republican? In case anyone forgot, he issued the emancipation proclamation to eliminate slavery.
And did you know that the KKK's were originally Democratic?
Just some history. :)
Knowing history and understanding history is almost literally two completely different things. It's like doing a complicated math problem where one student just write the answer on it without having any clue as to what he's doing like copying someone's answer. While the other student can explain to you why he got that answer and can literally tell you step by step.
I think it's safe to say that Martin Luther King, Jr. was a Republican. Many people seem to make that claim even though it's debatable. What's not debatable is that during Reconstruction, virtually all blacks were Republicans and they were that way right until the Civil Rights movement of the 1960s.....and then what happened today? The majority of blacks are Democrats, the party of the original KKK?
Let's not confused Abraham Lincoln and the Progressive Republicans of those days with today's moron Republicans.
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A little history doesn't hurt. If you know your history, no need to get feisty. :)
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A little history doesn't hurt. If you know your history, no need to get feisty. :)
I think he is calling you out because your statement is rather pointless. Its nothing more than a history lesson that adds to value to this argument today.
However if the Democratic party is still fill with the KKK (like the Republicans are now) then your point is valid, but because that happened a long time ago when times were different, its rather moot.
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I stop responding because the responses from the Hmong Dumblicans are just nonsense. I guess this is the reason the debate forum is so dead. No one care to debate with nonsense.
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The political parties NEVER switched. :2funny: :2funny: :2funny:
The Democratic Party is STILL RACIST AS EVER. They are just employing a new tactic. :2funny: :2funny: :2funny:
Meanwhile, GOP ideology is still the same whether they have KKK members or non-KKK members. And since we're on that subject, I bet many of you are completely IGNORANT OF THE KKK. You only associate themselves with the clan of the past. :2funny: :2funny: :2funny:
For some reason it offends you that some white people are only interested in promoting their race. Well if that's the case then this is going to be a hard pill for you to swallow BUT ALL RACES ARE IN IT TO PROMOTE THEMSELVES. Yes, including Blacks, Latinos, and Asians.
Anyhoo, the reason many southern KKK members switched parties (even though political parties didn't change) is because they didn't like the direction of the Democratic Party, which was quickly becoming too socialist. The Dems did this in order to win minority votes. They knew that if they played on the victimization of minorities they would raise stock voters out of them. In essence, they have created a new type of slavery-plantation right here in America. Well, KKK members aren't interested in a communist state. After all, these are the people who tried to break away from the Union, remember? So it would be a direct conflict of their beliefs to have an even bigger government.
But minorities are so damn dumb. Anytime election comes around you can always find them worrying about what it means for their government entitlement programs. :idiot2: I don't have to be a KKK member to see that is pretty damn tragic and disgusting. Perhaps I'm just too independent, self-sufficient, and ambitious to wait around for a damn government paycheck in the mail. AND, I just don't like money being taken out of my paycheck to feed someone who is able-bodied like me.
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I stop responding because the responses from the Hmong Dumblicans are just nonsense. I guess this is the reason the debate forum is so dead. No one care to debate with nonsense.
Tell me about it. No worthy debaters amongst the PH GOPers.
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Did you know that Abraham Lincoln was a Republican? In case anyone forgot, he issued the emancipation proclamation to eliminate slavery.
And did you know that the KKK's were originally Democratic?
Just some history. :)
That's why Abraham Lincoln is rolling over in his grave right now at what his party has turned into. Nothing he can do about it now but roll over.
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That's why Abraham Lincoln is rolling over in his grave right now at what his party has turned into. Nothing he can do about it now but roll over.
Why would Lincoln be rolling in his grave? He didn't like blacks either.
When will you little sheep UNDERSTAND that many white northerners didn't care much for blacks. They wanted to abolish SLAVERY. They were against SLAVERY. It just so happened that blacks in America at that time were slaves.
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The debate forum is dead because many of you have been called out on your bulls.hit. The only line you ever have is:
"You're a racist. You're a bigot. You're a homophobe" - because someone disagrees with your senile views.
You people are so scurred that you are protesting FREE SPEECH and barring speakers who have a different political view. Many brilliant comedians don't even bother to step onto your LIBERAL campuses anymore because you can't handle TRUTHS.
Well TRUTHS and FACTS don't care about your feelings.
You have NO IDEA what REAL RACISM is like. You have to fabricate it with loose definitions. :2funny:
Geeze, for people who are so oppressed by the system, some of you seem to have a lot of time on PH while claiming to get paid well. So either you have great jobs or our welfare system is paying you to live like a billionaire. :2funny: