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Title: lets face it, we better now than 8 years ago, thanks to OBAMA
Post by: hmgROCK on January 02, 2017, 08:47:28 AM
two wars
housing crisis
people losing their houses left and right and living in their cars

as much as the right side wanna blame

i think obama did a pretty good job

he bought the economy back
there lots of job
unemployment is down


i know our right wing PHer are hella mad
he done good thing

Title: Re: lets face it, we better now than 8 years ago, thanks to OBAMA
Post by: hmgROCK on January 02, 2017, 08:21:42 PM
He bought The economy back? Who did he buy it back from?

enuff said
number don't lie
hate all you want
we were better with OBAMA than BUSH


https://data.bls.gov/timeseries/LNS14000000
Title: Re: lets face it, we better now than 8 years ago, thanks to OBAMA
Post by: hmgROCK on January 03, 2017, 07:22:51 AM
You said he bought.  Who did he buy the economy from?

gotta buy those job back
kinda like how trump is already starting to buy jobs back
by using a form of exchange known as corporate welfare tax


• $19.9 trillion: “The staggering mountain of debt Obama will leave behind on January 20, 2017.” Source: Treasury Department..

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2016/dec/28/inside-the-beltway-52-of-republicans-still-say-oba/ (http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2016/dec/28/inside-the-beltway-52-of-republicans-still-say-oba/)
Title: Re: lets face it, we better now than 8 years ago, thanks to OBAMA
Post by: Hung_Low on January 03, 2017, 07:09:26 PM
He bought The economy back? Who did he buy it back from?

 :2funny: :2funny:

Dude is hiarious...  I wonder how much it cost him? Maybe it cost the whole Democrats' power position? I mean they lost the big election, both house of congress, major state governors, majorities of state legislatures.
Title: Re: lets face it, we better now than 8 years ago, thanks to OBAMA
Post by: Gucci K on January 04, 2017, 07:40:45 AM
As much as some people hate to admit it...Obama did have a big impact on the economy.  since his tenure, we have had the lowest unemployment rate and higher paying scale for the minimum wage.
Title: Re: lets face it, we better now than 8 years ago, thanks to OBAMA
Post by: hmgROCK on January 04, 2017, 08:08:21 AM
No wonder they didn't win the election.  All their money was used to buy back the economy!  :2funny: :2funny: :2funny:

obama buy the jobs back by doing something call the stimulus packages / and others
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Recovery_and_Reinvestment_Act_of_2009

that's why the national debt is soo high today

lol
Title: Re: lets face it, we better now than 8 years ago, thanks to OBAMA
Post by: Blongforever on January 04, 2017, 04:37:22 PM
I'm no Obama's fan but I must give credits to where credit is due.  Obama did more for many of us than Bush had ever done.

Obama fixed a lot of the vulture's loopholes.
Obama gave me a chance to be enrolled for the affordable care act.
Obama saved the auto industry.
Obama made more friends around the world than bush ever did.
Etc etc..

This looney Trump will be interesting for sure.  We'll see..., get your popcorn ready!
Title: Re: lets face it, we better now than 8 years ago, thanks to OBAMA
Post by: hmgROCK on January 09, 2017, 06:24:17 PM
I'm no Obama's fan but I must give credits to where credit is due.  Obama did more for many of us than Bush had ever done.

Obama fixed a lot of the vulture's loopholes.
Obama gave me a chance to be enrolled for the affordable care act.
Obama saved the auto industry.
Obama made more friends around the world than bush ever did.
Etc etc..

This looney Trump will be interesting for sure.  We'll see..., get your popcorn ready!

 I ain't a fan a war
That Bush guy got us into
Not one but two wars
Iraq and Afghanistan

Started all these ISIS stuff
Title: Re: lets face it, we better now than 8 years ago, thanks to OBAMA
Post by: Believe_N_Me on February 08, 2017, 01:07:00 AM
Dude, the slight drop in unemployment rate was due to the fact that people stopped looking for a job.

https://www.bls.gov/cps/cps_htgm.htm#unemployed (https://www.bls.gov/cps/cps_htgm.htm#unemployed)

Who is counted as unemployed?
People are classified as unemployed if they do not have a job, have actively looked for work in the prior 4 weeks, and are currently available for work. Actively looking for work may consist of any of the following activities:

Contacting:
An employer directly or having a job interview
A public or private employment agency
Friends or relatives
A school or university employment center
Submitting resumes or filling out applications
Placing or answering job advertisements
Checking union or professional registers
Some other means of active job search
Title: Re: lets face it, we better now than 8 years ago, thanks to OBAMA
Post by: can on February 08, 2017, 11:26:21 PM
I'm no Obama's fan but I must give credits to where credit is due.  Obama did more for many of us than Bush had ever done.

Obama fixed a lot of the vulture's loopholes.
Obama gave me a chance to be enrolled for the affordable care act.
Obama saved the auto industry.
Obama made more friends around the world than bush ever did.
Etc etc..

This looney Trump will be interesting for sure.  We'll see..., get your popcorn ready!

obama gave the republicans a taste of the D and they didn't like it  :2funny: :idiot2:
Title: Re: lets face it, we better now than 8 years ago, thanks to OBAMA
Post by: lexicon on February 09, 2017, 07:56:19 AM
Once you go Black, you don't go back. So we went Orange  O0
Title: Re: lets face it, we better now than 8 years ago, thanks to OBAMA
Post by: nooneever on February 09, 2017, 08:22:13 AM
8 years ago I did not have a job, a degree, a house, or even a car.  Then again 8 years ago I was barely old enough to drink.  But whatevs, yes we can!
Title: Re: lets face it, we better now than 8 years ago, thanks to OBAMA
Post by: Hung_Low on March 24, 2017, 08:42:35 PM
As much as some people hate to admit it...Obama did have a big impact on the economy.  since his tenure, we have had the lowest unemployment rate and higher paying scale for the minimum wage.

Actually, the economy swing up and down. Obama did nothing for the economy... The POTUS has little influence on the economy, the Fed Reserve is the one controlling the economy.

We have the lowest unemployment but the highest people on welfare and people that gave up on looking for a job. Never trust these unemployment numbers, they never account for those that gave up looking for jobs. The unemployment number is largely made up of people applying for unemployment and actively looking for jobs only.

In the next for 4 yrs the economy will be even better than the last 8 years but it's not because of Trump.

What most people don’t know, or at least don’t acknowledge, is that the Federal Reserve really runs the entire economy. When the Fed inflates the supply of money and credit, indexes go up, growth occurs and the economy “improves.” When it deflates the supply of money and credit, indexes go down, contraction occurs and the economy “slows.” - Huffington Post (Dems/Libs bias social media)
Title: Re: lets face it, we better now than 8 years ago, thanks to OBAMA
Post by: w1s3m0n on April 30, 2017, 09:57:46 PM
In my view Obama inherited a true mess.  Sadly, Obama lacked real Washington muscle and thus was not very effective at wrangling the D.C.  I give Obama a C+/B- because he could only go up per the systems in place.  Trump literally copied Obama on Yes We Can (change D.C.) to Drain the Swamp and Make America Great Again.  However you slice the message, the last two POTUS campaign on radical reformation to the government institutions who are not serving the people.  All the efforts for reformation have been stonewall by the institutions.  I would be very delighted if Trump succeeds but I am not holding my breath the government is going to get better.  There are too much cronyism.


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Title: Re: lets face it, we better now than 8 years ago, thanks to OBAMA
Post by: YAX on May 02, 2017, 09:48:14 AM
Actually, the economy swing up and down. Obama did nothing for the economy... The POTUS has little influence on the economy, the Fed Reserve is the one controlling the economy.

We have the lowest unemployment but the highest people on welfare and people that gave up on looking for a job. Never trust these unemployment numbers, they never account for those that gave up looking for jobs. The unemployment number is largely made up of people applying for unemployment and actively looking for jobs only.

In the next for 4 yrs the economy will be even better than the last 8 years but it's not because of Trump.

What most people don’t know, or at least don’t acknowledge, is that the Federal Reserve really runs the entire economy. When the Fed inflates the supply of money and credit, indexes go up, growth occurs and the economy “improves.” When it deflates the supply of money and credit, indexes go down, contraction occurs and the economy “slows.” - Huffington Post (Dems/Libs bias social media)
Yes and it's just a BIG coincidence that since WW2, it swings down when a Republican is in the white house but swings up when a Dem is in the whitehouse. 
Title: Re: lets face it, we better now than 8 years ago, thanks to OBAMA
Post by: w1s3m0n on May 30, 2017, 04:13:17 PM
Like Yax I use to tout that tune too.   However I've changed my mind once I started to fully understand the lag time on policy making.  One can argue that Clinton set a ticking time bomb for the deep recession and that would not be wrong because he signed it into office.  One then can counter argue that the GOP agreed to it so both are accountable.  What we do know with the ebb and flow of the stock market is a particular class of people, those in THE-KNOW reaps major wealth.  Effectively, common people are being scammed.


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Title: Re: lets face it, we better now than 8 years ago, thanks to OBAMA
Post by: Meestahh_Prince on May 30, 2017, 06:41:38 PM
He bought The economy back? Who did he buy it back from?

He's one of the few best President that didn't receive the credit he deserves just because of his skin color. Believe it nor this Countries economy was left to to collapse towards the ending term of Bush and everyone blames Obama for it but really he spent most of his Presidency term trying to clean up Bush's crap.
Title: Re: lets face it, we better now than 8 years ago, thanks to OBAMA
Post by: w1s3m0n on May 30, 2017, 07:02:53 PM
He's one of the few best President that didn't receive the credit he deserves just because of his skin color. Believe it nor this Countries economy was left to to collapse towards the ending term of Bush and everyone blames Obama for it but really he spent most of his Presidency term trying to clean up Bush's crap.

I do agree with you Obama struggled nightly due to his skin color and lack of influence and power in DC.  I do agree there are some people who blame Obama and there are some people who blame Bush.  One name you left out is Bill Clinton.  Clinton probably holds equal blame to Bush Jr.  Obama held negligible blame for the deep recession but Obama may holds significant blame for the next collapse because during Obama 2 terms he didn't address the root cause: poor regulatory quality control on credit and securities.  The same issue still persist and have gotten worst now -- big banks are now bigger, and in 2011 we said they were too big to fail, and now they are GIGANTIC.
Title: Re: lets face it, we better now than 8 years ago, thanks to OBAMA
Post by: TheDeviousOne on May 31, 2017, 09:38:55 AM
I do agree with you Obama struggled nightly due to his skin color and lack of influence and power in DC.  I do agree there are some people who blame Obama and there are some people who blame Bush.  One name you left out is Bill Clinton.  Clinton probably holds equal blame to Bush Jr.  Obama held negligible blame for the deep recession but Obama may holds significant blame for the next collapse because during Obama 2 terms he didn't address the root cause: poor regulatory quality control on credit and securities.  The same issue still persist and have gotten worst now -- big banks are now bigger, and in 2011 we said they were too big to fail, and now they are GIGANTIC.

Obama no good.. he do this little bill call Dodd Frank. Now I can't buy houses. Before I just say I clean houses and making a million dollar and I buy home.


No Juan is Illegal!
Title: Re: lets face it, we better now than 8 years ago, thanks to OBAMA
Post by: w1s3m0n on May 31, 2017, 10:49:48 AM
Obama no good.. he do this little bill call Dodd Frank. Now I can't buy houses. Before I just say I clean houses and making a million dollar and I buy home.


No Juan is Illegal!

Dood Frank is a bandage to an infection.


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Title: Re: lets face it, we better now than 8 years ago, thanks to OBAMA
Post by: TheDeviousOne on May 31, 2017, 01:34:02 PM
Trump going to removing bandage and I will buying houses again.. I missing the days of same day flips.. sigh.


No Juan is Illegal!
Title: Re: lets face it, we better now than 8 years ago, thanks to OBAMA
Post by: TheDeviousOne on May 31, 2017, 01:38:59 PM
Trump going to removing bandage and I will buying houses again.. I missing the days of same day flips.. sigh.


No Juan is Illegal!
Title: lets face it, we better now than 8 years ago, thanks to OBAMA
Post by: TheDeviousOne on May 31, 2017, 03:12:16 PM
I donut know why it post dos time instead of Juan time.


No Juan is Illegal!