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General Category => Debate Central => Topic started by: Believe_N_Me on March 23, 2017, 03:36:22 AM
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jkvsE5Xitrs (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jkvsE5Xitrs)
They bring down our neighborhoods, our schools, our communities and make it harder for hardworking minorities to break out of poverty.
The only people who are pro "illegals" are those who work in jobs that service and profit off of "illegals" - ahem, public school teachers, government social agencies, non-profits, just to name a few.
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Farmers...who according to most if not all reports overwhelmingly voted for Comrade Trumpinsky.
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First Republicans tell you that you're responsible for your own decisions, your own success, your own well being and that you shouldn't blame others for your situation. Then they tell you something different, like how illegals are responsible for your situation. :idiot2: :idiot2: #Hypocrites
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Public school teachers? Do they taking money under the table or what? For going to school for years and getting a degree and getting paid cheap.. I doubt it.
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Farmers...who according to most if not all reports overwhelmingly voted for Comrade Trumpinsky.
Farmers are Republicans. The people they hire under the table to pick their grapes are not farmers. Just field workers trying to make some cash.
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Public school teachers? Do they taking money under the table or what? For going to school for years and getting a degree and getting paid cheap.. I doubt it.
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I had the same question, DJG. This isn't her first rant against public school teachers.
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Double post. My bad.
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Farmers are Republicans. The people they hire under the table to pick their grapes are not farmers. Just field workers trying to make some cash.
Oh I understand that. I added Farmers to her list. Pointed out the irony since she wants to gloss over it.
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First Republicans tell you that you're responsible for your own decisions, your own success, your own well being and that you shouldn't blame others for your situation. Then they tell you something different, like how illegals are responsible for your situation. :idiot2: :idiot2: #Hypocrites
Did you say "#Hypocrites"?? ???
Reminds me of Michael Huffington 20 plus years ago:
THE 1994 CAMPAIGN: CALIFORNIA; California G.O.P. Candidate Admits Hiring Illegal Alien
Meg Whitman about 7 years ago:
Whitman admits using undocumented immigrant as housekeeper
Both are more than rich enough to hired a "legal" maid but chose the "illegal" cheap route.. ;D
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Farmers...who according to most if not all reports overwhelmingly voted for Comrade Trumpinsky.
First of all, farmers produce tangible goods that are a necessity for life. Throwing them under the bus is a detriment to you because you need them more than they need you.
Secondly, if immigration laws were enforced then that would make it riskier for farmers to employ illegals - if liberals were really that concerned about it, which I know you people aren't. It's just a bad argument you bring up like in abortion debates where you throw in the "rape and incest" case scenarios. ::) :idiot2:
The reality is that many farmers hire seasonal immigrants who have work visas. Which leads to the other problem. Illegals are taking away work from those who have legal documents to work in the USA. Picture little Pablo waiting for his paperwork so that he can come to America and earn income for his family. But no, he is being passed up by an illegal.
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Illegals delay the process for those who are taking the legal route to enter America.
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Hmong liberals are so f.ucking dumb that it's rather triggering.
So you don't think that Mexicans and Chinese in America are helping their own people steal their way into the country? Meanwhile, the Hmong in third world countries are dying like dogs or having to marry old geezers just to get a taste of the red, white and blue.
Mexicans and Chinese already have their own country. ::) But you dumb Hmong liberals are in complete support of Chinese illegals who only help advance the Chinese American economy while yours suffer. :idiot2:
These people who go back to China to oppress YOUR people. You are in support of funding them.
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Then there are the Mexicans who take over public education where many low-income Hmong students are underrepresent ed. They allocate all funds to cater Spanish-speaking families. In fact, they will hire Spanish-speaking teachers and admins over Hmong. Meaning, taking away potential jobs from Hmong. But what's really outrageous is that it is most likely Hmong homeowners paying taxes in those school districts whereas Mexicans are only renters.
Hmong Liberals ruam tiag!
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Hmong liberal ruam because they are homeowners paying property taxes but they don't show up at school meetings to fight for the funds. Mexicans show up in droves and always outnumber Hmong. They get all the money to fund their needs. They also out vote the Hmong.
Liberal minorities are so f.ucking dumb and that's why I don't like living among them. I'd rather live in predominantly white communities (or should I say "religious Jews") and reap those delicious benefits.
Religious Jews are conservative, intelligent and affluent. I prefer living among them.
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Farmers are Republicans. The people they hire under the table to pick their grapes are not farmers. Just field workers trying to make some cash.
and we all know that republicans are nothing but hypocrites O0
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I don't think illegals are the root cause. The problem are the affluent people who prefer to hire illegals over legals. It's not the illegals fault for wanting a better life. It is the affluent legal citizens fault for hiring them. The affluent citizens are denying their fellow citizens the right to work at a livable wage. The affluent citizen benefits monstrous amount by not paying a dime in social security taxes, health benefits and etc... for the Illegal. In the end, the average citizens end up holding the bag, WHILE ignorant conservatives vote for more tax breaks that greatly benefit the 1%. Now, that's stupid. Raise the tax across the board and give hard working citizens healthcare, education, roads, etc... most Americans are too stupid to understand systems and ecosystems so they blame the poor when the blame is on the affluent.
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Btw, I'm a libertarian conservative.
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About neighborhood, what bring the neighborhood down is lack of tax dollar, and poor policies in social welfare. I'm not saying no social welfare, I am saying that institution gets a Fat F for failure on moving people up the social ladder.
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... most Americans are too stupid to understand systems and ecosystems so they blame the poor when the blame is on the affluent.
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Majority rules in America and guess what? "most" means "majority". ;D
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About neighborhood, what bring the neighborhood down is lack of tax dollar, and poor policies in social welfare. I'm not saying no social welfare, I am saying that institution gets a Fat F for failure on moving people up the social ladder.
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What brings down a neighborhood is when you have a bunch of renters who aren't paying property taxes, thus not paying to keep the city clean and the school district good. Then you have those same renters breeding thugs that terrorize the streets, thus, no business can stay in business which also means no property taxes. Money goes to pay cops, which is already short on staff and can't keep up with crime. Homeowners are getting nothing for their homes and their dollar so they start moving out.
This is why cities with large blacks and Hispanics tend to be crap-holes.
I just find it very absurd that you liberals somehow think that every poor person is just this angel who is that way because some faceless white evil phantom is oppressing him. :idiot2: These people are poor because they have bad money management skills, make bad life decisions, and are bad characters.
The funny thing is y'all act like you are so compassionate but I know A LOT OF DAMN POOR PEOPLE IN THE GHETTO. I don't see your a.ss out there saving them because when you see them, trust me, you will view them as just another crackhead. And you know what? You would be right. Many of them did it to themselves. But hey, I will call you out on your bulls.hit. Just let me know when you are ready because I will send them your way.
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What brings down a neighborhood is when you have a bunch of renters who aren't paying property taxes, thus not paying to keep the city clean and the school district good. Then you have those same renters breeding thugs that terrorize the streets, thus, no business can stay in business which also means no property taxes. Money goes to pay cops, which is already short on staff and can't keep up with crime. Homeowners are getting nothing for their homes and their dollar so they start moving out.
This is why cities with large blacks and Hispanics tend to be crap-holes.
I just find it very absurd that you liberals somehow think that every poor person is just this angel who is that way because some faceless white evil phantom is oppressing him. :idiot2: These people are poor because they have bad money management skills, make bad life decisions, and are bad characters.
The funny thing is y'all act like you are so compassionate but I know A LOT OF DAMN POOR PEOPLE IN THE GHETTO. I don't see your a.ss out there saving them because when you see them, trust me, you will view them as just another crackhead. And you know what? You would be right. Many of them did it to themselves. But hey, I will call you out on your bulls.hit. Just let me know when you are ready because I will send them your way.
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You are wrong about renters not paying property taxes. Rolled into rent is the cost of property taxes. If you don't know that stop talking about rent.
Again, misinformed. Your caricature of blacks and Mexican borderline racism. How can a God fearing woman not tell the truth...not even asking for love...just tell the the whole truth. Not these half truths you got. Black, Mexicans, Hmong, Laos, Cambodians, White, etc... have problems when it comes to social issues. The FBI data shows there is no group exempted from committing crimes. So why pick one? All commit crimes.
Noteworthy, violent crime is down about 40% in the past 30 years or so. So our tax dollars to fight against violence is paying dividends. Good job to the men in blues. The world is much safer today because of them.
People are financially poor because of their circumstances. Any enlighten sentient being knows circumstance and situation don't define ones worth. Buddha had no wealth to him and yet his teaching survives thousands of years with billions of disciples. Jesus died a broken and poor criminal on the cross, and his words still booms alive today and he too have billions of disciples. Nobody would remembers Pilate if he wasn't the one who enforced the crucifixion. See how the rich man is worthless and the poor man is valueless. Same is of the poor, dirty, smelly, and crazy philosopher, Socrates, the greatest Greek mind in Ancient Greek.
The world seems more evil and vile because the hearts of wo/men have become darken due to the great prosperity we are in now. The reality is the world is safer, cleaner, richer, better quality of life and so on. More people have more access to simple things like clean water, shelter, heat, medicine, etc... don't let the propaganda lead you into a dark hole. Value and uplift the good and solve or ignore the bad. Nothing good can be done moaning about the bad stuff only.
I leave with this. Don't look into a prism with from one angle. Look at the prism in as many angles as possible.
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Because their rent is rolled into tax property that constitutes them paying the taxes?
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I bet you also think you helped pay Trump's $38 million dollar income tax, too, eh?
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And those low-wage workers in China should be credited for Apple's success instead of Steve Jobs.
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Because their rent is rolled into tax property that constitutes them paying the taxes?
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I bet you also think you helped pay Trump's $38 million dollar income tax, too, eh?
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And those low-wage workers in China should be credited for Apple's success instead of Steve Jobs.
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Let me know when you want to carry out an intelligent conversation. All that laughing is obfuscating the fact you know little about taxes and Apple success. Let me give you two small points:
1) A study group who did a study in who gives and takes from the taxation system concluded the majority of American citizens contributes ZERO dollars to the tax fund. Why? They are spending it. The biggest contributors to US taxes are corporations and the 1% who own the corporations. I guess you and I are out of look. We aren't require to pay our "fair share" of taxes. We suck from the system or at best break even.
2) Tim Cook in a congressional hearing said this about America and China. Cook said, America lack the facilities to make the iPhone. America lack the technical know how to make iPhone efficiently. Essentially, Cook said, Apple cannot exists without China (FoxConn). A Forbes study years ago said Apple made 58% of the iPhone cost. China didn't make a nickel on the iPhone. China gets wage earning job and that's about it. Apple today cannot exists without China.
Get informed.
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*applauds*
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Let me know when you want to carry out an intelligent conversation.
asking a republican for an intelligent conversation is like trying to see if an orange monkey can run the presidency :idiot2: :2funny:
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Republicans will complain all day about poor people breeding "thugs that terrorizes the streets", yadda yadda.. but say NO to abortion of described thugs!
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Let me know when you want to carry out an intelligent conversation. All that laughing is obfuscating the fact you know little about taxes and Apple success. Let me give you two small points:
1) A study group who did a study in who gives and takes from the taxation system concluded the majority of American citizens contributes ZERO dollars to the tax fund. Why? They are spending it. The biggest contributors to US taxes are corporations and the 1% who own the corporations. I guess you and I are out of look. We aren't require to pay our "fair share" of taxes. We suck from the system or at best break even.
2) Tim Cook in a congressional hearing said this about America and China. Cook said, America lack the facilities to make the iPhone. America lack the technical know how to make iPhone efficiently. Essentially, Cook said, Apple cannot exists without China (FoxConn). A Forbes study years ago said Apple made 58% of the iPhone cost. China didn't make a nickel on the iPhone. China gets wage earning job and that's about it. Apple today cannot exists without China.
Get informed.
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Still waiting...
You people don't even know the correct definition of terms. I guess that's what happens when you get a degree from a liberal college.
I mean look at all the phers who applauded you? They're completely ignorant that your arguments prove my point while debunking theirs.
They are simply giving you brownie points because you are debating me (their numero uno ph enemy).
This is how stupid they are. ::) However, I don't worry about it too much. God takes care of all things. People don't just suddenly get terminal illnesses out of thin air. >:D >:D >:D >:D Or die in a car accident, or have their spouses leave them, or have miscarriages, or show up on the 6 o'clock news, etc.
All I'm saying is that some of you phers need to be very careful who you make your enemy in these forums. >:D
You may strive to be on the right side of history but some of us only care to be on the right side of God.
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Btw, you're the one who said they paid their fair share through rent. :idiot2:
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My only addition is for all of us to read Leviticus 19:33-34. This will provide clarity if certain people are consistent with their belief.
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Wow, fire and brimstone and God will punish the wicked.
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My only addition is for all of us to read Leviticus 19:33-34. This will provide clarity if certain people are consistent with their belief.
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Of course, Republicans don't care what the bible says. They just don't like foreigners.