PebHmong Discussion Forum
General Category => General Discussion => Topic started by: lilly on June 26, 2019, 05:10:43 PM
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PHers,
1) What are your thoughts on the length of time it takes to complete a Hmong funeral?
2) What are your thoughts on the other aspects (the rituals, paper money, sacrificing animals, ua hauv qhua, hais xim, etc) of Hmong funerals?
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3. Do you still like the traditional 1-day, 2-day, or 3-day funeral? Why or why not?
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My thoughts are:
The traditional 1-day, 2-day, or 3-day funerals are way too time-consuming and costly. I think everyone should just get cremated when they die. Cremation is much more economical and environmentall y friendly. You won't be taking up land anywhere and you'll be cutting down the funeral costs by 90%. Wouldn't it be much better that your family/kids spend the $15,000-$40,000 they would have otherwise spent on a traditional funeral on a nice vacation for themselves, on a down payment on a nice house, or on other more important things? Why would you want to burden your love ones with a huge funeral bill and burden them with the stress of planning a long funeral? Also, how important really, are the other aspects of a Hmong funeral (the rituals, paper money, sacrificing animals, ua hauv qhua, hais xim, etc)?
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All I know is that last time I was at a funeral and asked a lot of questions and they hated me for it.
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Hmong people that still practice the traditional funeral need those long days to complete the entire funeral rituals, i'm thinking. For Christian funeral, a funeral can last a few hours to a few days w/ exception of keeping the funeral open for 24 hours.
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PHers,
1) What are your thoughts on the length of time it takes to complete a Hmong funeral?
2) What are your thoughts on the other aspects (the rituals, paper money, sacrificing animals, ua hauv qhua, hais xim, etc) of Hmong funerals?
1) way too long and too costly
2) I’m okay with the rituals and paper money, etc. I don’t support sacrificing animals.
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3. Do you still like the traditional 1-day, 2-day, or 3-day funeral? Why or why not?
One day is fine. Anything after that is just too long.
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My thoughts are:
The traditional 1-day, 2-day, or 3-day funerals are way too time-consuming and costly. I think everyone should just get cremated when they die. Cremation is much more economical and environmentall y friendly. You won't be taking up land anywhere and you'll be cutting down the funeral costs by 90%. Wouldn't it be much better that your family/kids spend the $15,000-$40,000 they would have otherwise spent on a traditional funeral on a nice vacation for themselves, on a down payment on a nice house, or on other more important things? Why would you want to burden your love ones with a huge funeral bill and burden them with the stress of planning a long funeral? Also, how important really, are the other aspects of a Hmong funeral (the rituals, paper money, sacrificing animals, ua hauv qhua, hais xim, etc)?
That's what I think it's best but the older generation prefers the 6' under idea and the traditional funeral. I think it's time consuming, expensive, unsustainable, but this is something that everyone does it. Funeral homes benefit much from this same goes for the poultry industry. 3 days for elderly people is still much better than 7 days or longer. I think this is something that may never change or goes away as the RESPECT & HONOR value is a big factor so deeply rooted in our people. If attitudes change, then it can be shortened. The lives stock slaughter thing, I believe it's all for show only. If we love our love ones, we should love them when they're still alive. Not when they'd come to passed. 2 cows should be enough... When up to 8? That is excessive...
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yea man
it's long
i just went to one this weekend
lots of the first OGie generation are dying
7 cows... BTW
(https://i.imgur.com/ftAmw55.jpg)
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I once ask one of those qeej player
Why the funeral are 2-3 days
He say from Wisconsin to laos is 30+ hours
Than another 3-4 hours drive to your village by cars
Back to the birth place
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yea man
it's long
i just went to one this weekend
lots of the first OGie generation are dying
7 cows... BTW
(https://i.imgur.com/ftAmw55.jpg)
I went to 2 over the weekend. One was 13 cows. The other one forgot to asked......
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funerals used to be longer. A few still are.
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OMG! So many cows! Poor cows! That is so unnecessary!
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OMG! So many cows! Poor cows! That is so unnecessary!
It is when you're paying your workers with beef. O0
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I went to 2 over the weekend. One was 13 cows. The other one forgot to asked......
dayme....
that's alot
not sure if you know
but it's been pretty hot here in the midwest lately
i went up the casket
and i can start to smell death a little bit :sad3:
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O0
This is not towards anyone in particular but why are you guys complaining about the long days? Laziness? It's not you doing it so let the family be. If they want 100 cows, let them kill 100 cows. If you want change, then it starts with you. Make your funeral one day for all who cares. Rituals takes time and the process to do it may take up the whole day. There are times in a traditional funeral that people pause for break too so it's not like they do it ALL day. There are lots of help involved so it's not only one person doing everything, unless they are those egoistic maniac who like to take charge of everything.
maybe it's not them, it's you?
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This is not towards anyone in particular but why are you guys complaining about the long days? Laziness? It's not you doing it so let the family be. If they want 100 cows, let them kill 100 cows. If you want change, then it starts with you. Make your funeral one day for all who cares. Rituals takes time and the process to do it may take up the whole day. There are times in a traditionalf funeral that people pause for break too so it's not like they do it ALL day. There are lots of help involved so it's not only one person doing everything, unless they are those egoistic maniac who like to take charge of everything.
maybe it's not them, it's you?
Cmon man
You being unreasonable with your 100 cow
Ain’t nobody is lazy
We are all working
And yes it has been hot here lately in the midwest
And we can start to smell the dead
Heat+dead body= faster decay
In thailand/laos
They fan the fly off the body
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This is not towards anyone in particular but why are you guys complaining about the long days? Laziness? It's not you doing it so let the family be. If they want 100 cows, let them kill 100 cows. If you want change, then it starts with you. Make your funeral one day for all who cares. Rituals takes time and the process to do it may take up the whole day. There are times in a traditional funeral that people pause for break too so it's not like they do it ALL day. There are lots of help involved so it's not only one person doing everything, unless they are those egoistic maniac who like to take charge of everything.
maybe it's not them, it's you?
and I agree with you. want change, start with you. most people here complain cause they keyboard warrior. don't mind him/her.
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Cmon man
You being unreasonable with your 100 cow
Ain’t nobody is lazy
We are all working
And yes it has been hot here lately in the midwest
And we can start to smell the dead
Heat+dead body= faster decay
In thailand/laos
They fan the fly off the body
how is killing many cows being unreasonable? nothing is going to waste, the left over is given to the guests and family members to take home for food. No one is holding a gun to your head to stay if you don't want to. If you want to make things simple, write a will for your own funeral. Maybe it's just a Midwest thing on why some folks are complaining about the process of the funeral. Combining all those rituals into one day would have been more exhausting than breaking it apart into 3 days.
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Double post
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how is killing many cows being unreasonable? nothing is going to waste, the left over is given to the guests and family members to take home for food. No one is holding a gun to your head to stay if you don't want to. If you want to make things simple, write a will for your own funeral. Maybe it's just a Midwest thing on why some folks are complaining about the process of the funeral. Combining all those rituals into one day would have been more exhausting than breaking it apart into 3 days.
Its easy
When you are the one not helping
With your hand in your pocket
Just show up to eat
100 cow is unreasonably
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As someone who kill and prep many cows
The stomach and intestines are the hardest
Because you are doing the poop
Those honeycone tendon and stripes
Its all in the stomach
Gotta turn the intestines insideout to wash the poop
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Should have spent that much in loving when the person was still alive.
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Should have spent that much in loving when the person was still alive.
I agree.
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Preach on brother reporter O0
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I prefer long funerals. It gives a chance for people to come and pay respect. Long funerals do take it's toll but there are many people willing to help. There are other rituals leading up to the funeral as well.
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The Pandemic has changed how we conduct funerals and some funerals will stick w/ the change pandemic or not.
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O0 O0
Preach on brother reporter O0
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One well-known leader's son quickly buried his deceased father without holding a funeral during the pandemic. By the time the relatives knew of his father's death,
the burial was already over with.
Look at how the pandemic has changed our traditions.
The Pandemic has changed how we conduct funerals and some funerals will stick w/ the change pandemic or not.
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One well-known leader's son quickly buried his deceased father without holding a funeral during the pandemic. By the time the relatives knew of his father's death,
the burial was already over with.
Look at how the pandemic has changed our traditions.
Yes I heard and that's too the extreme. A funeral can take place during the pandemic, witness enough myself.
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Shortening the funeral does not seem to matter. So, perhaps we can shorten other funerals from now on.
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NC funerals still going 3 days and sometimes 24/7 if the family chooses.