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Title: Where will you go after death?
Post by: Dok_Champa on October 06, 2020, 08:06:12 AM
Have you ever thought where you'll go after death?  Don't care?  Haven't thought about it?  Just wondering if anyone thinks about these things YET.
Title: Re: Where will you go after death?
Post by: theking on October 06, 2020, 10:40:24 AM
Depends on your belief but no denying most likely in the ground..as I've told a kid that asked me "where do dead people go"...
Title: Re: Where will you go after death?
Post by: Dok_Champa on October 06, 2020, 11:31:03 AM
Ok, so you believe we return to the earth, end of life, end of story.
Title: Re: Where will you go after death?
Post by: theking on October 06, 2020, 12:48:53 PM
No as I've not seen any solid factual proof saying otherwise yet..
Title: Re: Where will you go after death?
Post by: Dok_Champa on October 06, 2020, 01:32:54 PM
Yes we go to the ground or NO we go somewhere else??  What's your belief?  This is not a right or wrong answer rather just want to hear people's view on this. 

I just wondered if people ever think about these things...
Title: Re: Where will you go after death?
Post by: theking on October 06, 2020, 04:34:52 PM
No we don't go anywhere or coming back to life, our bodies just stay underground and rot away as the hard factual evidences have shown for thousands of years now...
Title: Re: Where will you go after death?
Post by: Dok_Champa on October 06, 2020, 06:46:47 PM
What a depressing ending you have there.  If my perspective is like that, I'll go through life like going through the buffet line - try everything ;D ;D ;D so no regrets since I'm just going to rot and disappear into nothingness ;D ;D ;D ;D

Oh let me add, in some cases, get seconds, third, like in the buffet  ;D ;D ;D ;D fatten up because THIS IS IT ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Where will you go after death?
Post by: Visualmon on October 06, 2020, 07:25:31 PM
physical body will drop down to the ground and the soul stuck get stuck in the dark void.
Title: Re: Where will you go after death?
Post by: DuMa on October 06, 2020, 08:00:19 PM
It is a fun topic to talk about but don't take too much out of it. 

You asked yourself, when a sun or star dies by a blackhole, is it really gone?  Are the energy gone? 

I still think that there is still a mystery to this world of the metaphysical where our energy or life source is eternal.  Body may rot away but the energy is what still floating around.  Like Jesus Christ or whoever was that person called Jesus, even if he is dead, he is still talked upon for ages upon ages. 

Your death just doesn't die.  If you believe that your death is the end then your life is meaningless.  It has no value.  It is like how you eat a piece of steak and not thinking about it being once a cow.  It is that meaningless.  Our human life is worth more than just death and that's it.

energy, if it true that it can not be created nor destroyed then it must be converted.  Like water to ice to water vapor, it just changes but still H20 and you just can't say it is just gone.  Just changes,  yeah that

Title: Re: Where will you go after death?
Post by: theking on October 06, 2020, 10:42:27 PM
What a depressing ending you have there.  If my perspective is like that, I'll go through life like going through the buffet line - try everything ;D ;D ;D so no regrets since I'm just going to rot and disappear into nothingness ;D ;D ;D ;D

Oh let me add, in some cases, get seconds, third, like in the buffet  ;D ;D ;D ;D fatten up because THIS IS IT ;D ;D ;D

It may be "depressing" in your view but it's a fact unlike the made up stuff with no fact to back it up.. ;D ;D ;D

And yes, you should enjoy life and really live it because you can tip toe through life and still meet death at the end just the same.. ;D  O0
Title: Re: Where will you go after death?
Post by: Dok_Champa on October 07, 2020, 09:26:47 AM
Duma says we're more than skin or bone and after we died - we become energy and I'm thinking recycle back into the world..

You seem to say we're just skin and bone, died end of story.  Ok, what do you make of thoses ghostly being that looks like the deceased - haunting people at night ;D ;D ;D ;D

How do you explain that?

Title: Re: Where will you go after death?
Post by: theking on October 07, 2020, 11:32:59 AM
I already did with factual evidence from thousands of years of body and bones rotting away in tombs and graveyards..an d I can provide those proof if needed...

Care to prove your point of how we continue to live on or come back to life or any other supernatural stuff?
Title: Re: Where will you go after death?
Post by: Dok_Champa on October 08, 2020, 10:02:27 AM
My proof is the Bible but we know where you stand on that.

But yours, you said died, end of story and I was just wondering about those ghostly being that come for late night snack.  Where they'd come from?  That's all.

So even your view has a flaw and mines, takes faith to see through.  God already proven where people go after death through Lazarus and the rich man, basically answer people's questions, does Hell/Heavan exist. 
Title: Re: Where will you go after death?
Post by: theking on October 08, 2020, 03:59:02 PM
Again, the man written "Bible" is as fake as Trump's "God's blessing" claim with zero hard factual evidence to back it up. It's just the Islam's "17 virgins in paradise" claim without hard factual evidence..

In regards to "ghostly being", zero hard factual evidence to back that up either...

So far you have not provided any hard factual evidence..

If you chose to believe it even with zero hard factual evidence to back it up, more power to you but me, I need to see hard factual evidence to believe in it whether it be "God, ghostly beings, 17 virgins in paradise"...
Title: Re: Where will you go after death?
Post by: Dok_Champa on October 13, 2020, 09:34:07 AM
Even if angels stand next to you, you wouldn't believe it.  Even if God is sitting next to you, you wouldn't believe it.  Even if Jesus is in front of you and say, I am Jesus,  you wouldn't believe it.

If you ever read the bible, faith is always the ingredient in the relationship with God.  When Noah built the Ark, he did it through faith.  Noah was telling the townspeople what's to come and they were factual people, mind you, and all of them ended up drowning except Noah and his family.




Title: Re: Where will you go after death?
Post by: DuMa on October 13, 2020, 01:17:01 PM
This is just my definition if I were trying to make some logic out of it.  It may not be true but still, hear me out for giggles. 

A ghost is an enigma or blue print of an energy that once lived.   So if I want to find the ghost of a civil war soldier, I go to where they battled and lives were lost.  I do not go looking for them at toys r us so of speak. 

If a ghost is only concentrated on lets say Transylvania then I'll call bullchit.  It just so happens that ghostly stories are universally sound.  Every nations to every cultures have seen it in their own neck of the woods.  It is this universal uniform that proves to me that there is something there. 

Now to break it down further, if it seems like everyone should have a ghost once they die, this then is an untrue statement.  Why is that the case?  Don't ask me, I just don't know but die of a tragic accident then maybe, just maybe you may. 

The way I try to explain it is like taking a nap and you wake up from it but not fully awaken.  Your body is still trying to catch up with your brain, you still get that feeling of tiredness and confusion but instead of waken up fully, you are still at that confusion state.  Some people die without even knowing that they die.  Death comes so fast and without warning.  If you don't know if you have died then what? 

Title: Re: Where will you go after death?
Post by: theking on October 13, 2020, 04:37:28 PM
Even if angels stand next to you, you wouldn't believe it.  Even if God is sitting next to you, you wouldn't believe it.  Even if Jesus is in front of you and say, I am Jesus,  you wouldn't believe it.

If those things actually happened, I would believe it because it's hard factual evidence..

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If you ever read the bible, faith is always the ingredient in the relationship with God.  When Noah built the Ark, he did it through faith.  Noah was telling the townspeople what's to come and they were factual people, mind you, and all of them ended up drowning except Noah and his family.

Again, back to the man written stuff...That I don't believe..Just like I don't believe in other man written words of other religions such as "17 virgins in paradise" ...UNTIL there's hard factual evidence to prove it of course.

I do respect all beliefs as long as it doesn't purposely hurt others so if you believe it, more power to you. Me, I need to see some hard factual evidence before I believe such as "God sitting next to me" and says I'm God. There's enough evidence to prove that Jesus did exist from what I've seen like Mohammed the Profit but zero hard factual evidence to prove he has supernatural power..
Title: Re: Where will you go after death?
Post by: Dok_Champa on October 13, 2020, 06:32:38 PM
Ok, fair enough.  Let's agree to disagree.. (or something like that..getting old hahahah...)
Title: Re: Where will you go after death?
Post by: DuMa on October 14, 2020, 02:36:57 PM
I'm not saying that this is proof in the pudding but check out this video chip here.

You heard of that famous crime case in colorado, that one guy killed his wife(+unborn) and his two daughters and hid their bodies in the oil barrel at his work place. 

Some say the documentary picked up the ghost of one of his children.

https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/spot-ghost-netflix-documentary-american-murder-191329401.html (https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/spot-ghost-netflix-documentary-american-murder-191329401.html)





Title: Re: Where will you go after death?
Post by: Dok_Champa on October 20, 2020, 02:51:49 PM
and no one wants to buy that house...been in the market for 2 years:

https://www.newsweek.com/no-one-will-buy-american-murder-house-where-chris-watts-killed-his-wife-1535707 (https://www.newsweek.com/no-one-will-buy-american-murder-house-where-chris-watts-killed-his-wife-1535707)
Title: Re: Where will you go after death?
Post by: Visualmon on October 21, 2020, 12:10:20 AM
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"The truth later came out, that Watts was responsible for all of their deaths, and he's serving consecutive life sentences in prison without parole."

Good riddance. If any dumb woman gonna marry that dude when he gets out of prison. Good luck to any woman gets killed.   :2funny:
This documentary reminds me of the 2009 movie, The Stepfather.