PebHmong Discussion Forum
Relationship => Marriage & Family Life => Topic started by: Believe_N_Me on July 08, 2025, 11:18:05 AM
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It's way worse than you can imagine.
A lot of Hmong kids in the 80s and 90s did not attend the best schools, but I'd say that it was a decent education. Parents back then were still accountable and students felt shame if they didn't do well in school. Students actually had to earn trophies, they received a ZERO for missing work, and there was a thing called "detention".
Nowadays, if you are not in a good school district (especially one that is predominantly black or brown), your child isn't learning anything all day long. Troubled schools don't retain teachers for long, except for the bad ones who figured out a way to game the system, and tend to hire young, inexperienced teachers. Much of this has to do with the attitude of the parents in said districts, who really view public education as daycare. Because of this, they opened the floodgates to Critical Race Theory teaching and practices. After all, when the parents complain about perceived cultural gaps, the school is going to respond by watering down the curriculum.
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I wonder why many Hmong kids at those
chartered schools don't meet the state
standard tests.
I mean they surely get out there to meet
for them but...
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I wonder why many Hmong kids at those
chartered schools don't meet the state
standard tests.
I mean they surely get out there to meet
for them but...
No real competition at these schools because there is too much focus on addressing failing students rather than rewarding and incentivizing excellence.
Also, CRT (Critical Race Theory) is being applied in the classroom and directing how the school operates. They are setting very low expectations, which inadvertently makes the students more unmotivated. Ideas get shot down because the staff is constantly told they can't do this or that since students are low income and parents don't speak English. I don't know which parents they are talking about because nowadays, the average age of the parents are in their 30s. These are all Hmong-Americans who were either born here or came to the states as infants. They all went to public schools and speak English fine.
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Passing a high school student doesn't mean that he/she earned the necessary credits to graduate. Parents at low-performing schools have been misinformed by the teachers and administrators . Many schools have adopted a new grading system in which missing work is given a 50% instead of 0. This gives the impression to parents that their child simply needs more assistance in order to comprehend the material. Therefore, resulting in parents blaming the teachers for ineffective teaching. In actuality, the student didn't even do the work. An administrator had the nerve to say, "but 50% is a failing grade. It's about optics. It looks better than a 0 and won't set off the alarm bell with parents."
Administrators and principals are super lazy. They no longer perform their job duties to meet with irate parents. They pass that on to the school counselor or teachers. Yet, they get paid six figure salaries. They come up with these nonsensical grading systems to keep parents off their back until the SHTF. At which point, they resign with a nice severance package.
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Let students fail and repeat a class.
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Houses in high performing school districts are worth more. Check scores on standardized tests. Even if your child underperforms academically, they will receive undivided attention in getting the help that they need. If you send your child to a district with lots of underperformin g students, then he/she will just get lost in the crowd.
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I wonder what will happen two generations from now.
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Some of the differences that I noticed between students at a top school vs. students at an at-risk school are:
1. top school prefer project-based assignments; at-risk school prefer completing worksheets with clear cut answers (ex. multiple choice, no short answers)
2. top school prefer open-ended and collaborative instruction; at-risk school prefer teacher-student instruction (teacher feeds information to students)
3. top school have a lot of opportunities for show-and-tell; at-risk school do not
4. top school students have a lot of opportunities to develop soft skills; at-risk school students do not
5. top school utilizes free time to build school spirit and let students have fun; at-risk school fills up what would be "free" time with intervention instruction
6. top school has strong parent involvement (PTO/A) in planning activities; at-risk school do not
7. top school - majority of students come from a two-parent household; at-risk school - majority of students come from a single-parent household
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People like to assume that wealthy parents can afford to make time for their child's education but "affordability" isn't why they do. Parents at top schools tend to have more demanding professions and own and operate businesses. Which means they actually have less time for family, but they make time because they know it is a key ingredient to raising successful children.
For example, a heart surgeon can't leave in the middle of operating on a patient. The CEO can't leave when he's scheduled to meet an important business client. These are people running corporations and are responsible for keeping things running smoothly at work. So the notion that they have all the time in the world to go to their child's baseball game, school play, parent/teacher conference is actually preposterous. However, whenever they are tied up at work, they always have a trusted relative to be there for the child. Like a grandparent, aunt, or uncle.
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I also noticed that at top schools, the parents have a "can do" mentality. Whereas the failing schools have a "can't do" mentality or waiting for someone else to do it.
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thats why you get rid of these gated rich white neighborhoods
they have their own rich high school that they tax fund
no poor person is going be able to afford those millions dollar house
and go to these well funded high school
;D ;D ;D
think BEL AIR
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In short, top schools develop thinking skills that at-risk schools do not.
The staffs come from different levels of backgrounds, too.
Some of the differences that I noticed between students at a top school vs. students at an at-risk school are:
1. top school prefer project-based assignments; at-risk school prefer completing worksheets with clear cut answers (ex. multiple choice, no short answers)
2. top school prefer open-ended and collaborative instruction; at-risk school prefer teacher-student instruction (teacher feeds information to students)
3. top school have a lot of opportunities for show-and-tell; at-risk school do not
4. top school students have a lot of opportunities to develop soft skills; at-risk school students do not
5. top school utilizes free time to build school spirit and let students have fun; at-risk school fills up what would be "free" time with intervention instruction
6. top school has strong parent involvement (PTO/A) in planning activities; at-risk school do not
7. top school - majority of students come from a two-parent household; at-risk school - majority of students come from a single-parent household
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I also noticed that at top schools, the parents have a "can do" mentality. Whereas the failing schools have a "can't do" mentality or waiting for someone else to do it.
The staff discourages anything that would make the students superior
to them then. :2funny: :2funny:
That's why we Hmong don't have a country.
I've looked at the structures of many countries. I've noticed
that countries that are behind the world have leaders
who have limited thinkings.
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O0
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Yeah.
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Bad parenting + woke liberal teachers/administrators = degenerative school culture = degenerative culture in the country.
And that's why more and more kids can't read nor do they go on to be productive, contributing adults.
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With the new school year approaching, there is a heated online debate over school supplies between teachers and parents. There are parents who refuse to buy school supplies for their child(ren) mostly due to their disagreement about teachers taking the supplies and putting them into a community box.
If you're in a low performing school, there are simply too many irresponsible parents who don't care about education at all other than view it as daycare. Therefore, the few parents who actually do care end up lifting all the heavy weight. To make matters worse, low performing schools also are majority run with woke leftist staff that put the burden on parents who do right. Is it any surprise that the bulk of this conflict over school supplies is very heated are happening in these districts?
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Another reason not to live among ghetto folks, and ghetto areas.
It's actually a very simple solution:
PARENTS ONLY BUY SUPPLIES FOR THEIR CHILD.
However, teachers can note at the bottom of the school supply list asking for donations to be made to a community box.
The teachers today are mostly inexperienced and very incompetent at classroom management. Let's just say that I know this firsthand. They do ask for supplies that will not be frequently used, but is just a nice thought. Doesn't really enrich the child's learning or performance at all.
Back in the day when I was in grade school, OUR TISSUE BOX STAYED IN OUR DESK, rather than go into a closet for the "community".
This taught us to share and resolve our own issues amongst ourselves. If a kid didn't have tissue or a red marker, he simply had to learn how to ask a classmate. This required him to know how to get along with others so that kids would want to share.
THE PROBLEM HAS AND ALWAYS WILL BE BAD PARENTS AND WOKE LEFTIST TEACHERS/ADMINISTRATORS DOING EVERYTHING FOR THESE BAD PEOPLE, BUT REALLY ASKING THE GOOD PEOPLE TO DO IT.
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this is what happen when your black heart is filled with with liberal hate
you blame everything on the liberals
FACTS: most of these sucky education are in the deep south red state, run by republicans
every city control their own education
that’s why some book are ban and some or not
STATICALLY SPEAKING TOP STATE WHO CANNOT READ OR WRITE ARE IN THE DEEP RED STATE
RUN BY DEEP RED REPUBLICANS
;D ;D ;D
gotta get your facts right BNM
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Another reason not to live among ghetto folks, and ghetto areas.
don’t think your poor income can afford you $500,000 house
;D ;D ;D
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It's way worse than you can imagine.
A lot of Hmong kids in the 80s and 90s did not attend the best schools, but I'd say that it was a decent education. Parents back then were still accountable and students felt shame if they didn't do well in school. Students actually had to earn trophies, they received a ZERO for missing work, and there was a thing called "detention".
Nowadays, if you are not in a good school district (especially one that is predominantly black or brown), your child isn't learning anything all day long. Troubled schools don't retain teachers for long, except for the bad ones who figured out a way to game the system, and tend to hire young, inexperienced teachers. Much of this has to do with the attitude of the parents in said districts, who really view public education as daycare. Because of this, they opened the floodgates to Critical Race Theory teaching and practices. After all, when the parents complain about perceived cultural gaps, the school is going to respond by watering down the curriculum.
my parent would leave us home alone all day and night
while they go to work
many of us gang bang and end up in jail and facing deportation today
<<< i read and write just fine
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this is what happen when your black heart is filled with with liberal hate
you blame everything on the liberals
FACTS: most of these sucky education are in the deep south red state, run by republicans
every city control their own education
that’s why some book are ban and some or not
STATICALLY SPEAKING TOP STATE WHO CANNOT READ OR WRITE ARE IN THE DEEP RED STATE
RUN BY DEEP RED REPUBLICANS
;D ;D ;D
gotta get your facts right BNM
The largest black populations are in Texas, Florida, and Georgia (deep south).
While many red states have Republican governors, many of their metropolitan cities are controlled by Democrats and are overwhelmingly Democrat voters.
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The largest black populations are in Texas, Florida, and Georgia (deep south).
While many red states have Republican governors, many of their metropolitan cities are controlled by Democrats and are overwhelmingly Democrat voters.
c’mon
you of all people should know this
after all you claim to be a teacher (so you claim)
school gets funding from local, states and federal
i remember getting state test to determine funding
these deep red state underfund their school system
thus ranking the lowest reading and writing in the USA
THATS JUST STATISTICS FACT SPEAKING
look it up google it up
nobody is lying to you
this whole liberal states and city education suck is simply not true
you are just hating liberals now