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Title: Will Hmong have a country?
Post by: TheAfterLife on July 31, 2017, 05:54:02 PM
If Hmong DID have a country, I rather use the 18 clans to become the 18 senator in the house. 1 president and 1 ambassador. Then, we should have 18 federal judges in another house to judge terrorists and other enemy threats in our Hmong country.

I think Mien/Yao people should be equal with us since we share the same common interest: "Not liking the Han Chinese."

It's best if Hmong-Mien should become one race, like how Caeser from Planet of the Apes have demonstrated fascism.
Title: Re: Will Hmong have a country?
Post by: anonymouse on July 31, 2017, 06:55:30 PM
This topic keeps coming up.

Why do Hmong people need a country?  Because they want one is not enough reason to need a country.   This leads into other questions like, why should you move from your current country to go there?  What benefits are there? If the reason is "because you are Hmong" then I'm sorry, but that's a poorly misguided reason. 

Before we talk about country. Hmong people need to talk about having ONE international new year celebration, not 25 in one state or 2 in one city that is clashing against eachother.

It makes us look really greedy and sad when, instead of focusing on celebration, the focus is on greed. 

Show people that they can work together to run a new year event without the drama, and then maybe we can start talking about community building and so on and eventually lead to country.
Title: Re: Will Hmong have a country?
Post by: Meestahh_Prince on February 28, 2018, 08:11:50 PM
This topic keeps coming up.

Why do Hmong people need a country?  Because they want one is not enough reason to need a country.   This leads into other questions like, why should you move from your current country to go there?  What benefits are there? If the reason is "because you are Hmong" then I'm sorry, but that's a poorly misguided reason. 

Before we talk about country. Hmong people need to talk about having ONE international new year celebration, not 25 in one state or 2 in one city that is clashing against eachother.

It makes us look really greedy and sad when, instead of focusing on celebration, the focus is on greed. 

Show people that they can work together to run a new year event without the drama, and then maybe we can start talking about community building and so on and eventually lead to country.

 :idiot2:
Title: Re: Will Hmong have a country?
Post by: TheAfterLife on March 01, 2018, 12:56:36 PM
This topic keeps coming up.

Why do Hmong people need a country?  Because they want one is not enough reason to need a country.   This leads into other questions like, why should you move from your current country to go there?  What benefits are there? If the reason is "because you are Hmong" then I'm sorry, but that's a poorly misguided reason. 

Before we talk about country. Hmong people need to talk about having ONE international new year celebration, not 25 in one state or 2 in one city that is clashing against eachother.

It makes us look really greedy and sad when, instead of focusing on celebration, the focus is on greed. 

Show people that they can work together to run a new year event without the drama, and then maybe we can start talking about community building and so on and eventually lead to country.

Dude, everyday is a drama. Hmong needs to fight rather than to puss out.
Title: Re: Will Hmong have a country?
Post by: Meestahh_Prince on March 06, 2018, 11:17:09 PM
Dude, everyday is a drama. Hmong needs to fight rather than to puss out.

Hmong dude who gets cozy not having a Country are the pitfalls of their people falling behind as one of the poorest people susceptible to powerlessly facing racism, oppression and hate.
Title: Re: Will Hmong have a country?
Post by: dogmai on March 11, 2018, 01:04:33 PM
Dude, everyday is a drama. Hmong needs to fight rather than to puss out.

Simply just willing to fight will not guarantee success.   Knowing how to fight is required for success. Knowing how to fight the battles is what hmong people needs to do.
Title: Re: Will Hmong have a country?
Post by: TheAfterLife on April 02, 2018, 04:26:48 PM
Simply just willing to fight will not guarantee success.   Knowing how to fight is required for success. Knowing how to fight the battles is what hmong people needs to do.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JeY17qwSwno (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JeY17qwSwno)

Well, this is my uncle and he's fighting for it. He knows people from the UN and the White House. GVP tries to kill him before since it's a clan war. After GVP is dead and lose power of control, my uncle made a promise that after getting a Hmong land, he will not be a leader. In fact, he will look for a leader which reminds me of how Samuel from the Bible who defends Israel until he finds a leader that is suitable for the people.

If GVP died in Laos, he will be known as a legendary hero rather than coming to America, wasting his time on gambling and cheating on his own people and their money. When Gandhi won the fight, he stepped down as leader of his own choice in order to let someone who run the country for them. It's best to pick up the plowshare and retire rather than making your image uglier in the future.
Title: Re: Will Hmong have a country?
Post by: Reporter on April 05, 2018, 07:25:45 AM
Can we run a country?
Title: Re: Will Hmong have a country?
Post by: TheAfterLife on April 06, 2018, 12:54:59 PM
Can we run a country?

If we aren't so stupid back then, we would have a country. My uncle, who told me about Laos, they were in the Stone Age when France came over to colonize S.E.A. When that happens, they saw that Laos were lazy and cocky folks, they asked us if we can govern them. The Hmong folks said, "No, it would be wrong to do that." DA FUDGE! France saw us as an opportunity to control Laos since Hmong people were in the gunpowder age while Laos didn't have jack shiit! They only know how to make stone pots while we know how to forge metal, guns, crops, buildings, etc. Hmong people were civilize folks; yet, we traded Boardwalk and Park Place for Baltic Avenue in some Monopoly game. Hmong people are HORRIBLE business people. I WOULD SAY YES, LET US CONTROL LAOS IN OUR NAME.

Dude, history repeats again like how it has happened in the times of Chiyou. We were the founders of technology; yet, we traded for some piece of shiit and let our enemies have our technology. Are Hmong people are just known to be teachers and scientist to get rule by some dictator, general, or somewhat?


 
Title: Re: Will Hmong have a country?
Post by: TheAfterLife on April 06, 2018, 12:59:34 PM
Hmong people, STOP TELLING YOUR SECRETS! WHY DO YOU THINK AMERICA ACTS STUPID, PLAYS STUPID, BUT TRULY, THAT'S A SMART MOVE!

It's best to shut the hell up and stop gossiping. I know it's very itchy to gossip, but it's best not to. Just act stupid like the Americans who knows nothing, but truly, you do know something. If we didn't talk too much, like how it has happened in the Chu Dynasty or in Chiyou's time, maybe Hmong empire would have stayed alive. Don't celebrate too soon or too early with pride. Those who celebrate too early will fall first and they will look like a fool.

tsk, tsk, tsk...
Title: Re: Will Hmong have a country?
Post by: Reporter on April 07, 2018, 06:10:56 AM
So, maybe the next question is: can we keep a  country?

If we aren't so stupid back then, we would have a country. My uncle, who told me about Laos, they were in the Stone Age when France came over to colonize S.E.A. When that happens, they saw that Laos were lazy and cocky folks, they asked us if we can govern them. The Hmong folks said, "No, it would be wrong to do that." DA FUDGE! France saw us as an opportunity to control Laos since Hmong people were in the gunpowder age while Laos didn't have jack shiit! They only know how to make stone pots while we know how to forge metal, guns, crops, buildings, etc. Hmong people were civilize folks; yet, we traded Boardwalk and Park Place for Baltic Avenue in some Monopoly game. Hmong people are HORRIBLE business people. I WOULD SAY YES, LET US CONTROL LAOS IN OUR NAME.

Dude, history repeats again like how it has happened in the times of Chiyou. We were the founders of technology; yet, we traded for some piece of shiit and let our enemies have our technology. Are Hmong people are just known to be teachers and scientist to get rule by some dictator, general, or somewhat?
Title: Re: Will Hmong have a country?
Post by: Meestahh_Prince on April 07, 2018, 05:45:43 PM
Can we run a country?

Have you seen Hmong run a Country before?
Title: Re: Will Hmong have a country?
Post by: dogmai on April 08, 2018, 04:29:44 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JeY17qwSwno (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JeY17qwSwno)

Well, this is my uncle and he's fighting for it. He knows people from the UN and the White House. GVP tries to kill him before since it's a clan war. After GVP is dead and lose power of control, my uncle made a promise that after getting a Hmong land, he will not be a leader. In fact, he will look for a leader which reminds me of how Samuel from the Bible who defends Israel until he finds a leader that is suitable for the people.

If GVP died in Laos, he will be known as a legendary hero rather than coming to America, wasting his time on gambling and cheating on his own people and their money. When Gandhi won the fight, he stepped down as leader of his own choice in order to let someone who run the country for them. It's best to pick up the plowshare and retire rather than making your image uglier in the future.

You misunderstood what he was saying. He talked about  the mistreatment of the hmong people by the Lao government. He didn't mentioned anything about creating a country for the hmong people. And from what I found in regards to what he was talking about,  the organization specifically note that creating a country is not their goal, keeping their distance from the "hmong country " scam that someone else was doing.
Also,  knowing people in the white house and the U.N. anything in regards to creating a country for the hmong people. The U.N. doesn't grant lands for people who want to e establish a country.
Title: Re: Will Hmong have a country?
Post by: Reporter on April 09, 2018, 09:58:21 AM
No.

Have you seen Hmong run a Country before?
Title: Re: Will Hmong have a country?
Post by: Reporter on April 09, 2018, 10:04:39 AM
True.True.True . Koffi Annan, former UN Secretary, already told the Hmong that some years ago, too. 

You misunderstood what he was saying. He talked about  the mistreatment of the hmong people by the Lao government. He didn't mentioned anything about creating a country for the hmong people. And from what I found in regards to what he was talking about,  the organization specifically note that creating a country is not their goal, keeping their distance from the "hmong country " scam that someone else was doing.
Also,  knowing people in the white house and the U.N. anything in regards to creating a country for the hmong people. The U.N. doesn't grant lands for people who want to e establish a country.
Title: Re: Will Hmong have a country?
Post by: Meestahh_Prince on April 10, 2018, 01:41:49 PM
No.

Can we run a country?

Yes.
Title: Re: Will Hmong have a country?
Post by: Reporter on April 13, 2018, 06:19:53 AM
Happy to know.

Now, I am less worried.

Yes.
Title: Re: Will Hmong have a country?
Post by: DaCurse on April 13, 2018, 08:48:35 PM
Simply just willing to fight will not guarantee success.   Knowing how to fight is required for success. Knowing how to fight the battles is what hmong people needs to do.

we make up less than 1% of the world population. we are far outnumber by a huge margin with most other ethnics. this should tell us we have zero chance. this isn't in the B.C era where it's all rocks and stones. This is the high tech era. where new technology and weapons are being created every year to counter a weapon another country has created.
Title: Re: Will Hmong have a country?
Post by: DaCurse on April 13, 2018, 08:54:32 PM
Can we run a country?

We can but first we must destroy all the hmong with the corrupt and barbaric genes...haha
Title: Re: Will Hmong have a country?
Post by: DaCurse on April 13, 2018, 09:29:39 PM
If we aren't so stupid back then, we would have a country. My uncle, who told me about Laos, they were in the Stone Age when France came over to colonize S.E.A. When that happens, they saw that Laos were lazy and cocky folks, they asked us if we can govern them. The Hmong folks said, "No, it would be wrong to do that." DA FUDGE! France saw us as an opportunity to control Laos since Hmong people were in the gunpowder age while Laos didn't have jack shiit! They only know how to make stone pots while we know how to forge metal, guns, crops, buildings, etc. Hmong people were civilize folks; yet, we traded Boardwalk and Park Place for Baltic Avenue in some Monopoly game. Hmong people are HORRIBLE business people. I WOULD SAY YES, LET US CONTROL LAOS IN OUR NAME.

Dude, history repeats again like how it has happened in the times of Chiyou. We were the founders of technology; yet, we traded for some piece of shiit and let our enemies have our technology. Are Hmong people are just known to be teachers and scientist to get rule by some dictator, general, or somewhat?

the past is the past....simply put we as a whole simply don't have it in us, naturally. the guts and glory, the wits and the heart. it's just how the Hmong mentality was designed to be. It's one of those things...you either have it or you don't...and for us Hmong to have a strong foundation and structure of principles and vision...we just don't have it in us....it's like most Hmong people, they go work for a company....the big boss ask if they want to be a supervisor.... 9 out of 10 Hmong will decline the offer, cuz they are too pussy. they worry about getting into confrontations with other workers, oh they just want to simply live, work and dont want no extra responsibiliti es....

with this kind of mentality..... we don't need no country....tho se capable to lead don't want to lead.....and maybe for good reasons too...its no wonder it's always the corrupt will to lead...haha
Title: Re: Will Hmong have a country?
Post by: Meestahh_Prince on April 25, 2018, 01:27:15 AM
Happy to know.

Now, I am less worried.

Not sure what you're worried about, but your worry makes more sense directed towards the consequences of not having a Country for Hmong people. If you're unsure what I'm referring to then to bluntly state, the existence of Hmong people...And one of the biggest attribute is Hmong women is no longer interested in Hmong men.
Title: Re: Will Hmong have a country?
Post by: theking on April 25, 2018, 06:51:34 PM
Not sure what you're worried about, but your worry makes more sense directed towards the consequences of not having a Country for Hmong people. If you're unsure what I'm referring to then to bluntly state, the existence of Hmong people...And one of the biggest attribute is Hmong women is no longer interested in Hmong men.

Wrong, like most of the women of other races and/or ethnic groups that are interested in their own race and/or ethnic group, most Hmong women are still "interested in Hmong men"...
Title: Re: Will Hmong have a country?
Post by: Meestahh_Prince on April 25, 2018, 09:51:48 PM
Wrong, like most of the women of other races and/or ethnic groups that are interested in their own race and/or ethnic group, most Hmong women are still "interested in Hmong men"...

Without going through detail breakdown of why that is and how it has anything to do with this topic, I've known many single Hmong men at a matured age more so than there is single Hmong woman as many of them became educated/successful and looks over to other race cause Hmong men had nothing to offer them. Some of them had no choice but to flock oversea in search of a mate, you'd be wrong if you think overseas would remain a sustainable source to provide Hmong men a mate...Hmong women overseas in recent years with the influence and influx migrant of Chinese people are now and have already started to turn their interest to Chinese men...even old Chinese men, their options had expand.

Title: Re: Will Hmong have a country?
Post by: theking on April 26, 2018, 12:21:35 AM
Without going through detail breakdown of why that is and how it has anything to do with this topic, I've known many single Hmong men at a matured age more so than there is single Hmong woman as many of them became educated/successful and looks over to other race cause Hmong men had nothing to offer them. Some of them had no choice but to flock oversea in search of a mate, you'd be wrong if you think overseas would remain a sustainable source to provide Hmong men a mate...Hmong women overseas in recent years with the influence and influx migrant of Chinese people are now and have already started to turn their interest to Chinese men...even old Chinese men, their options had expand.

Doesn't matter of "why" and "how" as your statement: "one of the biggest attribute is Hmong women is no longer interested in Hmong men"... is simply wrong because the majority of Hmong women are still more interested in Hmong men than men of another race.
Title: Re: Will Hmong have a country?
Post by: Meestahh_Prince on April 29, 2018, 01:31:00 AM
Doesn't matter of "why" and "how" as your statement: "one of the biggest attribute is Hmong women is no longer interested in Hmong men"... is simply wrong because the majority of Hmong women are still more interested in Hmong men than men of another race.

Sure if that makes you feel better. Doesn't changed the fact there are many more single Hmong man than woman.
Title: Re: Will Hmong have a country?
Post by: theking on April 30, 2018, 12:25:03 AM
Sure if that makes you feel better. Doesn't changed the fact there are many more single Hmong man than woman.

That doesn't matter either because I'm going by facts and you're going by ignorance. Also doesn't matter if there are "more" single Hmong men than woman or vice-versa. It only takes one Hmong woman to be "interested in Hmong men" to make your claim of "one of the biggest attribute is Hmong women is no longer interested in Hmong men" wrong...

Unless you have data to show that there are "many more single Hmong man than woman", that claim is in question and NOT a "fact"...Here's what I've found about the "single" gender ratio around the world thus far as I haven't seen one just for the Hmong yet...:

"Meanwhile, a whopping 64% of respondents were single in 2014 and had never married. That number was higher for men (68%) than for women (60%). "This means that not only are fewer young adults married, but also that fewer are in committed relationships," the report concludes..."

The data above does show a bit more single men than women but that's across the board, not just Hmong. Therefore, looks like "more single men" applies to all American groups based on that survey, not just Hmong.

There are also slight more men than women around the world based on this survey:

"The number of men and women in the world is roughly equal, though men hold a slight lead with 102 men for 100 women (in 2015). More precisely, out of 1,000 people, 504 are men (50.4%) and 496 are women (49.6%). For every 100 girls, 107 boys are born, but males have a higher risk of dying than females, both in childhood and at adult ages."

Here's a map showing where which gender out numbered the other in the U.S in terms of "single" status:

"Where you live can make a big difference in who and how often you date.   

Back in February 2007, National Geographic published its infamous “Singles Map.” Eight years later, an update seems in order. So with the help of my Martin Prosperity Institute team, we crunched the numbers for metros where men outnumber women and where women outnumber men, based on data from the American Community Survey."


(https://cdn.theatlantic.com/assets/media/img/posts/2015/02/1864/180278ee4.png)


Looking at the surveys above, I don't see the claim of "many more single Hmong man" being accurate for the Hmong either...Perha ps a bit more but definitely not "many more"...
Title: Re: Will Hmong have a country?
Post by: Meestahh_Prince on May 06, 2018, 02:36:43 PM
That doesn't matter either because I'm going by facts and you're going by ignorance. Also doesn't matter if there are "more" single Hmong men than woman or vice-versa. It only takes one Hmong woman to be "interested in Hmong men" to make your claim of "one of the biggest attribute is Hmong women is no longer interested in Hmong men" wrong...

Unless you have data to show that there are "many more single Hmong man than woman", that claim is in question and NOT a "fact"...Here's what I've found about the "single" gender ratio around the world thus far as I haven't seen one just for the Hmong yet...:

"Meanwhile, a whopping 64% of respondents were single in 2014 and had never married. That number was higher for men (68%) than for women (60%). "This means that not only are fewer young adults married, but also that fewer are in committed relationships," the report concludes..."

The data above does show a bit more single men than women but that's across the board, not just Hmong. Therefore, looks like "more single men" applies to all American groups based on that survey, not just Hmong.

There are also slight more men than women around the world based on this survey:

"The number of men and women in the world is roughly equal, though men hold a slight lead with 102 men for 100 women (in 2015). More precisely, out of 1,000 people, 504 are men (50.4%) and 496 are women (49.6%). For every 100 girls, 107 boys are born, but males have a higher risk of dying than females, both in childhood and at adult ages."

Here's a map showing where which gender out numbered the other in the U.S in terms of "single" status:

"Where you live can make a big difference in who and how often you date.   

Back in February 2007, National Geographic published its infamous “Singles Map.” Eight years later, an update seems in order. So with the help of my Martin Prosperity Institute team, we crunched the numbers for metros where men outnumber women and where women outnumber men, based on data from the American Community Survey."


(https://cdn.theatlantic.com/assets/media/img/posts/2015/02/1864/180278ee4.png)


Looking at the surveys above, I don't see the claim of "many more single Hmong man" being accurate for the Hmong either...Perha ps a bit more but definitely not "many more"...

Well if you're reluctant to get out of your ignorance then that's fine, I don't intend to debate with dudes like that. There's thread in the single dating section that confirms to what's stated.
Title: Re: Will Hmong have a country?
Post by: DuMa on May 06, 2018, 04:46:42 PM
Not enough Hmong people for the Hmong to have a country. 

As soon as yall have a country, another man's country will gladly take it from you and annillate the whole entire Hmong population. 

It is best not to have a country and still be protected by the USA and the United Nations. 

Title: Re: Will Hmong have a country?
Post by: Meestahh_Prince on May 06, 2018, 06:39:16 PM
Not enough Hmong people for the Hmong to have a country. 

As soon as yall have a country, another man's country will gladly take it from you and annillate the whole entire Hmong population. 

It is best not to have a country and still be protected by the USA and the United Nations.

If that's the case, Vietnamese would've gotten annihilated and enslave by China or America by now but why didn't they? Hmong combined with those in China and elsewhere are equally large. Japan is just a small island but they're able to maximize their technology more advance than anyone else.
Title: Re: Will Hmong have a country?
Post by: theking on May 07, 2018, 12:37:17 AM
Well if you're reluctant to get out of your ignorance then that's fine, I don't intend to debate with dudes like that. There's thread in the single dating section that confirms to what's stated.

"ignorance" is you with your ignorant claim of "one of the biggest attribute is Hmong women is no longer interested in Hmong men" when facts say otherwise because like other races and/or ethnics, the majority still prefers to hook up with their own race/ethnic. Of course you "don't intend" as your ignorance already failed you. Now you claimed a "thread in the single dating section" but nothing to back that up either..

FACT: There are still some Hmong women that are "interested" in Hmong men...
Title: Re: Will Hmong have a country?
Post by: Meestahh_Prince on May 12, 2018, 02:18:30 AM
"ignorance" is you with your ignorant claim of "one of the biggest attribute is Hmong women is no longer interested in Hmong men" when facts say otherwise because like other races and/or ethnics, the majority still prefers to hook up with their own race/ethnic. Of course you "don't intend" as your ignorance already failed you. Now you claimed a "thread in the single dating section" but nothing to back that up either..

FACT: There are still some Hmong women that are "interested" in Hmong men...

Fact?  ??? When you don't even know the disproportion difference is for Hmong and you called that fact?The thread is extremely obvious if you can't figured which then....  ???...I already said it n I'll jsut repeat it, if it makes you feel better bracing yourself in your ignorance that's fine, I don't intend to debate with dudes like that.
Title: Re: Will Hmong have a country?
Post by: theking on May 14, 2018, 12:53:20 AM
Fact?  ??? When you don't even know the disproportion difference is for Hmong and you called that fact?The thread is extremely obvious if you can't figured which then....  ???...I already said it n I'll jsut repeat it, if it makes you feel better bracing yourself in your ignorance that's fine, I don't intend to debate with dudes like that.

Then prove or show facts to back up your ignorant claim of "one of the biggest attribute is Hmong women is no longer interested in Hmong men". Yep, nothing factual to back it up as usual which is why you're still dancing around on hot coal.  :idiot2:

FACT: I know some Hmong women are still "interested in Hmong men" and unlike you, I can back that up. Why? Because it's a fact not like the ignorance you're spilling out.
Title: Re: Will Hmong have a country?
Post by: YeejKoob13 on May 14, 2018, 12:15:03 PM
I have been telling you, mr. vang, all along. If you want to achieve hmoob tebchaws then throw away your yesxus religion and uphold the hmong way. Keep the culture alive. Culture is political. Grow the people. Refer to my past comments if you need reminding. Eventually crtical mass will occur.

You have not reached enlightenment yet. Once you do, you will realize yesxus and assimilation are enemies of Hmong and the goal (tebchaws) you so desire.
Title: Re: Will Hmong have a country?
Post by: Believe_N_Me on May 30, 2018, 08:39:55 PM
I have been telling you, mr. vang, all along. If you want to achieve hmoob tebchaws then throw away your yesxus religion and uphold the hmong way. Keep the culture alive. Culture is political. Grow the people. Refer to my past comments if you need reminding. Eventually crtical mass will occur.

You have not reached enlightenment yet. Once you do, you will realize yesxus and assimilation are enemies of Hmong and the goal (tebchaws) you so desire.

If keeping Shamanism was the answer then don't you think the Hmong would've had and retained their own country all along?

Title: Re: Will Hmong have a country?
Post by: YeejKoob13 on June 18, 2018, 01:58:41 PM
If keeping Shamanism was the answer then don't you think the Hmong would've had and retained their own country all along?

Not talking about Shamanism (whether its specifically just the spiritual healing ritual or the general religion as a whole) as having the magical power to bless and affect the outcome, like asking a genie to grant wishes to protect or conquer. Not like that. But that using Shamanism (kablis kevcai, dabqhuas, plus more) as a political tool, sort of like a constition of a particular political org, to unite and tie everyone as a member of that org. So in this case every person who calls him/herself a Hmong has to abide by the qualities which define him/her as Hmong, and those qualities are kablis kevcai, dabqhuas (shamanism), and more. Thats how you keep the Hmong united and as one. And from this, you grow the number, and so on, until critical mass occurs.

Critical mass could be any number depending on various internal and external factors. If every Hmong is rich, intelligent, politically motivated, then maybe only 10 million people are required to reach statehood. If Hmong in general are poor, not overly educated, like today, then it may require 100,000,000 people for critical mass to occur, where shear numbers just overwhelm the opposition/enemy. Or by chance some other countries end up fighting each other and wipe themselves out then their land is up for the taking... But that still requires Hmong to be Hmong (of which Yesxus Hmoob are no longer, I would argue) if there is going to be a Hmongland.
Title: Re: Will Hmong have a country?
Post by: Meestahh_Prince on June 23, 2018, 09:46:24 PM
Then prove or show facts to back up your ignorant claim of "one of the biggest attribute is Hmong women is no longer interested in Hmong men". Yep, nothing factual to back it up as usual which is why you're still dancing around on hot coal.  :idiot2:

FACT: I know some Hmong women are still "interested in Hmong men" and unlike you, I can back that up. Why? Because it's a fact not like the ignorance you're spilling out.

I did. If you lack the IQ to see the obvious then don't know what to say.
Title: Re: Will Hmong have a country?
Post by: theking on June 25, 2018, 12:38:23 AM
I did. If you lack the IQ to see the obvious then don't know what to say.

All that and nothing to back up the ignorant claim of: "one of the biggest attribute is Hmong women is no longer interested in Hmong men".

Not that it's a surprise because you continue to prove that you "lack the IQ to see the obvious"...i.e., it's a fact that some Hmong women are still "interested in Hmong men"...and thus why you still "don't know"...



Title: Re: Will Hmong have a country?
Post by: luelee1985 on August 09, 2018, 09:48:28 PM
If Hmong DID have a country, I rather use the 18 clans to become the 18 senator in the house. 1 president and 1 ambassador. Then, we should have 18 federal judges in another house to judge terrorists and other enemy threats in our Hmong country.

I think Mien/Yao people should be equal with us since we share the same common interest: "Not liking the Han Chinese."

It's best if Hmong-Mien should become one race, like how Caeser from Planet of the Apes have demonstrated fascism.
Do we actually need a country of our own; what's wrong with the country you live in now; would it even be better if we did? We're not exactly the most united people; we barely hold on as a society as it is. If we couldn't agree with something as simple as the Hmong New Years than how can we be expected to govern a state? Count your blessings and be glad we live in a free country that isn't trying to kill us... for once.

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Title: Re: Will Hmong have a country?
Post by: anonymouse on August 10, 2018, 01:10:27 AM
Do we actually need a country of our own; what's wrong with the country you live in now; would it even be better if we did? We're not exactly the most united people; we barely hold on as a society as it is. If we couldn't agree with something as simple as the Hmong New Years than how can we be expected to govern a state? Count your blessings and be glad we live in a free country that isn't trying to kill us... for once.

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You nailed it.
Title: Re: Will Hmong have a country?
Post by: TheAfterLife on August 10, 2018, 07:45:30 PM
Do we actually need a country of our own; what's wrong with the country you live in now; would it even be better if we did? We're not exactly the most united people; we barely hold on as a society as it is. If we couldn't agree with something as simple as the Hmong New Years than how can we be expected to govern a state? Count your blessings and be glad we live in a free country that isn't trying to kill us... for once.

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If we don't have a country, why help Hmong people in the first place? You sound like those Chinese, Japanese, and Korean who worship white people like it was their god or something. IF Hmong are so afraid of the freedom, why can't we mimic like America in the Hmong country? I mean, South Korea is just like America with no differentiatio n. Taiwan is starting to adopt Japanese's system as well since it's working for them. At least a small country is fine.

Here is my uncle in the UN court:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bah3DVCamwI (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bah3DVCamwI)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RZCF9-W8-4Y (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RZCF9-W8-4Y)
Title: Re: Will Hmong have a country?
Post by: luelee1985 on August 10, 2018, 08:38:34 PM
The Hmong did not have a country of their own for who knows how long and look where we are? We have a country, the country you were born in which afforded you legal liberties. Nobody owes us a damn thing; that's Marxist bullshit right there and the last I've checked Marxism murdered 75% of our people in Laos.

Call me a white worshipper; why because the West just so happens to have a better system of government; and if they're so bad than why model a Hmong state after it; why even suggest it? "Waaahhh, boohoo, the Hmong have no country!!!" So who gives a shit, having no country has made us strong. Hmong were tribal hill people who only lived off the land. Only a select group could read and write. Now look at us, we have Hmong in U.S. office.

A nation will only bring us more pain. Is that the future you want for our people? No one respected us as a people and they will NOT recognize a Hmong State. Just look at Israel. Only savages seek out war.
If we don't have a country, why help Hmong people in the first place? You sound like those Chinese, Japanese, and Korean who worship white people like it was their god or something. IF Hmong are so afraid of the freedom, why can't we mimic like America in the Hmong country? I mean, South Korea is just like America with no differentiatio n. Taiwan is starting to adopt Japanese's system as well since it's working for them. At least a small country is fine.

Here is my uncle in the UN court:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bah3DVCamwI (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bah3DVCamwI)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RZCF9-W8-4Y (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RZCF9-W8-4Y)

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Title: Re: Will Hmong have a country?
Post by: DaCurse on August 10, 2018, 11:38:35 PM
if hmong has a country, cockfighting and growing mary janes will be legal...cops will be running away and geting chase by criminals instead...all Hmong schools will have a corrupted superintendent, and all Hmong business will comit frauds...and the government will pocket all taxes...the Vang clan will get away with just about anything...and Hmong girls will become prostitutes by age 13....and of course, our president will most likely be a white dude.... :2funny:
Title: Re: Will Hmong have a country?
Post by: Meestahh_Prince on August 14, 2018, 04:26:18 AM
The Hmong did not have a country of their own for who knows how long and look where we are? We have a country, the country you were born in which afforded you legal liberties. Nobody owes us a damn thing; that's Marxist bullshit right there and the last I've checked Marxism murdered 75% of our people in Laos.

Call me a white worshipper; why because the West just so happens to have a better system of government; and if they're so bad than why model a Hmong state after it; why even suggest it? "Waaahhh, boohoo, the Hmong have no country!!!" So who gives a shit, having no country has made us strong. Hmong were tribal hill people who only lived off the land. Only a select group could read and write. Now look at us, we have Hmong in U.S. office.

A nation will only bring us more pain. Is that the future you want for our people? No one respected us as a people and they will NOT recognize a Hmong State. Just look at Israel. Only savages seek out war.
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Uh no, that's what you thought in your head but that's not a fact. No body can predict how it would be like but at least they gets a chance to shape their people and not at the mercy of others begging on their knees...This Country you're living in btw isn't yours.
Title: Re: Will Hmong have a country?
Post by: luelee1985 on August 14, 2018, 05:44:02 AM
Uh no, that's what you thought in your head but that's not a fact. No body can predict how it would be like but at least they gets a chance to shape their people and not at the mercy of others begging on their knees...This Country you're living in btw isn't yours.
It isn't; than whose? The last one wasn't, or the last one before one that. At least something goes on in my head unlike so many who think we should have a country. Nobody here apparently thinks ahead or THINKS at all for that matter.

Where is this land going to come from; who are we TAKING this piece of land from; you think the UN is just going to give us a parcel and the people who currently owns it is just going to be cool about it? We will have to fight for it, like every damn time in our history. I don't bend the knee to no one in the US but you'll be damn sure whoever's land we take will demand WE bend the knee to them or try to wipe us off the face of the earth like so many before them.

Shape our people? We don't need a country for that, thats not what shapes a people, our struggle is what shaped our people. Thousands of years of war and genocide and yet here we are. You think a piece of land will end all that? We have a chance at peace now and no one can stop us from owning private property in the U.S. because that's our right as IT'S citizens.

I don't see us with a country any time soon. And apparently just posing the question "Do we even need a country?" is just too much for Hmong like you to handle. So sorry that THINKING triggers you so damn much. I'm not imagining crap and claiming it to be fact. I consider many possibilities and calculate the most likely outcome. I do NOT want the Hmong people to go through what the Israelis are going through today. The Hmong have suffered a genocide that took 75% of our population less than 50 years ago. Haven't the people suffered enough? Maybe some day the Hmong will have their own country but not now I don't think. We need to show the world we are great without one first, the Hmong need to unite as a people; otherwise my father was right: we don't deserve our own country. What would be the point of fighting for a country only to jump into civil war; ever think about?

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Title: Re: Will Hmong have a country?
Post by: Mr_Mechanic on August 14, 2018, 06:39:45 AM
It isn't; than whose? The last one wasn't, or the last one before one that. At least something goes on in my head unlike so many who think we should have a country. Nobody here apparently thinks ahead or THINKS at all for that matter.

Where is this land going to come from; who are we TAKING this piece of land from; you think the UN is just going to give us a parcel and the people who currently owns it is just going to be cool about it? We will have to fight for it, like every damn time in our history. I don't bend the knee to no one in the US but you'll be damn sure whoever's land we take will demand WE bend the knee to them or try to wipe us off the face of the earth like so many before them.

Shape our people? We don't need a country for that, thats not what shapes a people, our struggle is what shaped our people. Thousands of years of war and genocide and yet here we are. You think a piece of land will end all that? We have a chance at peace now and no one can stop us from owning private property in the U.S. because that's our right as IT'S citizens.

I don't see us with a country any time soon. And apparently just posing the question "Do we even need a country?" is just too much for Hmong like you to handle. So sorry that THINKING triggers you so damn much. I'm not imagining crap and claiming it to be fact. I consider many possibilities and calculate the most likely outcome. I do NOT want the Hmong people to go through what the Israelis are going through today. The Hmong have suffered a genocide that took 75% of our population less than 50 years ago. Haven't the people suffered enough? Maybe some day the Hmong will have their own country but not now I don't think. We need to show the world we are great without one first, the Hmong need to unite as a people; otherwise my father was right: we don't deserve our own country. What would be the point of fighting for a country only to jump into civil war; ever think about?

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Title: Re: Will Hmong have a country?
Post by: Believe_N_Me on August 14, 2018, 10:48:19 PM
The Hmong can't even run a neighborhood block. Every apartment complex where they are the majority is run down to the ground. As soon as someone gets a good job they can't wait to flee and move to a white sub-division. And some of you dare to demand a country?

fab-nim kawg nkaus...but that's why living in America is so great...you can at least dream about it, right? If this were Laos or China, you would probably be charged and executed for treason just for bringing it up.

 :2funny: :2funny: :2funny:
Title: Re: Will Hmong have a country?
Post by: Meestahh_Prince on August 20, 2018, 01:38:00 AM
The Hmong can't even run a neighborhood block. Every apartment complex where they are the majority is run down to the ground. As soon as someone gets a good job they can't wait to flee and move to a white sub-division. And some of you dare to demand a country?

fab-nim kawg nkaus...but that's why living in America is so great...you can at least dream about it, right? If this were Laos or China, you would probably be charged and executed for treason just for bringing it up.

 :2funny: :2funny: :2funny:

Know what's actually funny? When anti Hmong Country goes full steam about how they submissively tolerated their racist encounter online  :2funny:...wants to be a pest with no place of their own, gets treated like one...just suck it up.  ;D

Good for you to call them out. Include photos, too, if you have any. I'm tired of racist Chinese and Koreans - ESPECIALLY THE SAME ONES WHO WOULD CRY RACISM IF IT WERE A WHITE PERSON.

All the people telling you to get over it are probably the same ones who would make a big fat stink if it were a white person.

BE SURE TO POST YOUR EXPERIENCE TO THE PUBLIC AND ESPECIALLY TO THAT RACIST TRASH, B.ITCH, SARAH JEONG.

Every bit of opportunity I get to BLAST A RACIST CHINESE or KOREAN, I DO SO WITH GLEE.

Let's get real here. If America is too f.ucking racist for them, these chinks can go back to their country - YEAH THE SAME ONE IN WHICH THEY TRIED TO ANNIHILATE THE HMONG.
Title: Re: Will Hmong have a country?
Post by: Meestahh_Prince on August 20, 2018, 01:46:12 AM
It isn't; than whose? The last one wasn't, or the last one before one that. At least something goes on in my head unlike so many who think we should have a country. Nobody here apparently thinks ahead or THINKS at all for that matter.

Where is this land going to come from; who are we TAKING this piece of land from; you think the UN is just going to give us a parcel and the people who currently owns it is just going to be cool about it? We will have to fight for it, like every damn time in our history. I don't bend the knee to no one in the US but you'll be damn sure whoever's land we take will demand WE bend the knee to them or try to wipe us off the face of the earth like so many before them.

Shape our people? We don't need a country for that, thats not what shapes a people, our struggle is what shaped our people. Thousands of years of war and genocide and yet here we are. You think a piece of land will end all that? We have a chance at peace now and no one can stop us from owning private property in the U.S. because that's our right as IT'S citizens.

I don't see us with a country any time soon. And apparently just posing the question "Do we even need a country?" is just too much for Hmong like you to handle. So sorry that THINKING triggers you so damn much. I'm not imagining crap and claiming it to be fact. I consider many possibilities and calculate the most likely outcome. I do NOT want the Hmong people to go through what the Israelis are going through today. The Hmong have suffered a genocide that took 75% of our population less than 50 years ago. Haven't the people suffered enough? Maybe some day the Hmong will have their own country but not now I don't think. We need to show the world we are great without one first, the Hmong need to unite as a people; otherwise my father was right: we don't deserve our own country. What would be the point of fighting for a country only to jump into civil war; ever think about?

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Not yours for a fact. If you like to prove otherwise, go tell to it to Trump. I don't disagreed that Hmong do have it good here...getting more obese and becoming more stupid.
Title: Re: Will Hmong have a country?
Post by: luelee1985 on August 20, 2018, 11:16:34 AM
Not yours for a fact. If you like to prove otherwise, go tell to it to Trump. I don't disagreed that Hmong do have it good here...getting more obese and becoming more stupid.
HA!!! As dumb as the rest of the Democratic voting plantation. Tell me, brother, when was the last time you actually read any of Trump's policies; without the help of any social media outlet or major news platform? You are on the Trump hating bandwagon. Funny, I never liked Trump when everyone else did but now that he's Commander and Chief half the country hates him, that same half that loved him.

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Title: Re: Will Hmong have a country?
Post by: dogmai on August 25, 2018, 04:03:12 AM
Not yours for a fact. If you like to prove otherwise, go tell to it to Trump. I don't disagreed that Hmong do have it good here...getting more obese and becoming more stupid.

If you are unwilling to accept what is yours, then no matter where you go, there will never be place that is yours. Your "fact" is wrong.  This is my country for a fact and can prove it by going to Trump and telling him that and he cannot imprisoned me or kick me out of the country. Hmong people do have a country. Those who realize this will fight for their country. Those who don't,  will always be dreaming about the hmong country that doesn't.

In regards to stupidity, are hmong getting more stupid? Or are they seeing more stupidity out there because they now  smarter than before?
Title: Re: Will Hmong have a country?
Post by: Meestahh_Prince on August 26, 2018, 05:05:48 AM
If you are unwilling to accept what is yours, then no matter where you go, there will never be place that is yours. Your "fact" is wrong.  This is my country for a fact and can prove it by going to Trump and telling him that and he cannot imprisoned me or kick me out of the country. Hmong people do have a country. Those who realize this will fight for their country. Those who don't,  will always be dreaming about the hmong country that doesn't.

In regards to stupidity, are hmong getting more stupid? Or are they seeing more stupidity out there because they now  smarter than before?

Sounds like you're just fooling yourself into a cozy nap, there's nothing wrong with that if it helps you cope with your insomnia. Fact is, this is not your Country and going around with that claim really makes yourself sounds like a shameless id*ot, it makes every Hmong person look bad...prove it by going to Trump? then do so, just don't be too surprise finding yourself in a mugshot in orange vest holding up a 'shipped' label  :2funny:.

Stup*d? You're hypocritically fetching a living off the fruit of someone's Country, someone who sees it differently and easily opposes your backward mentality of no Country!  :2funny:
Title: Re: Will Hmong have a country?
Post by: Believe_N_Me on August 27, 2018, 09:47:05 PM
The sheer fact that Democrats and all their Leftist SJWs are so irritating is why I became such a huuuuuuge Trump supporter. They never shut their big, fugly mouths on their biased media outlets. Always blatantly lying and distorting conservative and libertarian views. Using Hollywood to virtue signal and mock. This is why I love it when Trump tweets or says something that ruffles their feathers. They are clearly psychotic.

Bullies (The Democratic Party) needs an even bigger bully to put them in their place.

Hmong Leftists are A BIG FAT JOKE who do nothing but parrot leftist indoctrination that they learn in public education and at liberal universities. In addition, the fact that they most likely learned everything they know about America through liberal public television. Studies show low-income people watch more hours of television. Hmmm..not all that shocking when you look at how indoctrinated minorities have become. Nothing but a bunch of morons voting themselves into socialism.  :idiot2:
Title: Re: Will Hmong have a country?
Post by: Believe_N_Me on August 27, 2018, 09:51:03 PM
Remember:

CNN pundit Symone Sanders said the murder of Mollie Tibbets is about toxic masculinity. Okay Symone, let's agree on that claim. So why are you then supporting open borders for males who come from toxic masculine cultures?

What a big fugly dummy. A racist and homophobic one, too.
Title: Re: Will Hmong have a country?
Post by: luelee1985 on August 28, 2018, 08:16:07 PM
Sounds like you're just fooling yourself into a cozy nap, there's nothing wrong with that if it helps you cope with your insomnia. Fact is, this is not your Country and going around with that claim really makes yourself sounds like a shameless id*ot, it makes every Hmong person look bad...prove it by going to Trump? then do so, just don't be too surprise finding yourself in a mugshot in orange vest holding up a 'shipped' label  :2funny:.

Stup*d? You're hypocritically fetching a living off the fruit of someone's Country, someone who sees it differently and easily opposes your backward mentality of no Country!  :2funny:
You claim this to be a fact? Well than, prove it. Prove to me this isn't our country; a nation whose systen of government was specifically designed for it's citizens. If not, than stop embarrassing yourself, you sound like a middle class, Marxists white girl.

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Title: Re: Will Hmong have a country?
Post by: Believe_N_Me on August 28, 2018, 10:57:42 PM
Sounds like you're just fooling yourself into a cozy nap, there's nothing wrong with that if it helps you cope with your insomnia. Fact is, this is not your Country and going around with that claim really makes yourself sounds like a shameless id*ot, it makes every Hmong person look bad...prove it by going to Trump? then do so, just don't be too surprise finding yourself in a mugshot in orange vest holding up a 'shipped' label  :2funny:.

Stup*d? You're hypocritically fetching a living off the fruit of someone's Country, someone who sees it differently and easily opposes your backward mentality of no Country!  :2funny:

Brainwashed much by Libtards?

Just because there are racists who don't think I (as a LEGAL AND NATURALIZED CITIZEN) belong in this country, it doesn't mean that the Constitution agrees with them.

Nice try race-baiting. That stuff only works on feeble-minded Hmong libtards.

See, we conservatives and libertarians are passionate about upholding this country and it's Constitution. We hold up the American flag in the face of racists in order to remind them of the Constitution.

Libtards are passionate about distorting and tearing down the country and it's Constitution. In the face of racists, they burn the flag to show their disdain for America. 

 
Title: Re: Will Hmong have a country?
Post by: dogmai on August 28, 2018, 11:29:35 PM
Sounds like you're just fooling yourself into a cozy nap, there's nothing wrong with that if it helps you cope with your insomnia. Fact is, this is not your Country and going around with that claim really makes yourself sounds like a shameless id*ot, it makes every Hmong person look bad...prove it by going to Trump? then do so, just don't be too surprise finding yourself in a mugshot in orange vest holding up a 'shipped' label  :2funny:.

Stup*d? You're hypocritically fetching a living off the fruit of someone's Country, someone who sees it differently and easily opposes your backward mentality of no Country!  :2funny:

I would be surprise to see that too because I haven't seen any mugshots of minorities calling this country theirs.

So you are too ashamed to call the country you live in yours, but don't have shame to go beg a foreign country to empty out their people of a piece of their land and give it to you so you can call it yours.

Stupidity. No dignity.  What else?
Title: Re: Will Hmong have a country?
Post by: Believe_N_Me on August 29, 2018, 12:52:53 AM
MP,

You can have your country as long as you are willing to go fight for one.
Title: Re: Will Hmong have a country?
Post by: Meestahh_Prince on August 29, 2018, 02:44:48 AM
You claim this to be a fact? Well than, prove it. Prove to me this isn't our country; a nation whose systen of government was specifically designed for it's citizens. If not, than stop embarrassing yourself, you sound like a middle class, Marxists white girl.

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Now that's a dumb respond. I had nothing to prove cause its a fact this isn't your Country, but you DO have something to prove..instead of b*tching like the b*tches you already made yourself to be go to Trump and say that to him, if you didn't get banded with your comrade dogmai for shipping then you'd proven to yourself he'd at least notice you as a proud loyal pest to his Country and you can make the likes of you celebrate with victory  :2funny:. Until you actually did that, just remain a Stateless b*tch. Marxists white girl eh?...no homo here, but I'd bet you'll enjoy rolling with your buddy dogmai, you two seems to have alot in common...what a match!... enjoy rolling with each other.  :2funny: :2funny:


I would be surprise to see that too because I haven't seen any mugshots of minorities calling this country theirs.

So you are too ashamed to call the country you live in yours, but don't have shame to go beg a foreign country to empty out their people of a piece of their land and give it to you so you can call it yours.

Stupidity. No dignity.  What else?

Still barking with no proof as your claim earlier? That's okay, you're a dog after all.
Title: Re: Will Hmong have a country?
Post by: Meestahh_Prince on August 29, 2018, 02:50:01 AM
The sheer fact that Democrats and all their Leftist SJWs are so irritating is why I became such a huuuuuuge Trump supporter. They never shut their big, fugly mouths on their biased media outlets. Always blatantly lying and distorting conservative and libertarian views. Using Hollywood to virtue signal and mock. This is why I love it when Trump tweets or says something that ruffles their feathers. They are clearly psychotic.

Bullies (The Democratic Party) needs an even bigger bully to put them in their place.

Hmong Leftists are A BIG FAT JOKE who do nothing but parrot leftist indoctrination that they learn in public education and at liberal universities. In addition, the fact that they most likely learned everything they know about America through liberal public television. Studies show low-income people watch more hours of television. Hmmm..not all that shocking when you look at how indoctrinated minorities have become. Nothing but a bunch of morons voting themselves into socialism.  :idiot2:
Remember:

CNN pundit Symone Sanders said the murder of Mollie Tibbets is about toxic masculinity. Okay Symone, let's agree on that claim. So why are you then supporting open borders for males who come from toxic masculine cultures?

What a big fugly dummy. A racist and homophobic one, too.
Brainwashed much by Libtards?

Just because there are racists who don't think I (as a LEGAL AND NATURALIZED CITIZEN) belong in this country, it doesn't mean that the Constitution agrees with them.

Nice try race-baiting. That stuff only works on feeble-minded Hmong libtards.

See, we conservatives and libertarians are passionate about upholding this country and it's Constitution. We hold up the American flag in the face of racists in order to remind them of the Constitution.

Libtards are passionate about distorting and tearing down the country and it's Constitution. In the face of racists, they burn the flag to show their disdain for America.
MP,

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Title: Re: Will Hmong have a country?
Post by: DuMa on August 29, 2018, 04:28:45 AM
California city just sold for 1.4 million.

Just buy a big land n established a Hmong city.  Run it with official officers and play house.  Just don't get too crazy and turn it into a political agenda where the feds will see it like a cult. 

Title: Re: Will Hmong have a country?
Post by: dogmai on August 29, 2018, 08:32:45 AM

Still barking with no proof as your claim earlier? That's okay, you're a dog after all.

I bark and bite. And I already chewed you up and showed your stupidity.  O0
Title: Re: Will Hmong have a country?
Post by: luelee1985 on August 29, 2018, 11:15:40 AM
Now that's a dumb respond. I had nothing to prove cause its a fact this isn't your Country, but you DO have something to prove..instead of b*tching like the b*tches you already made yourself to be go to Trump and say that to him, if you didn't get banded with your comrade dogmai for shipping then you'd proven to yourself he'd at least notice you as a proud loyal pest to his Country and you can make the likes of you celebrate with victory  :2funny:. Until you actually did that, just remain a Stateless b*tch. Marxists white girl eh?...no homo here, but I'd bet you'll enjoy rolling with your buddy dogmai, you two seems to have alot in common...what a match!... enjoy rolling with each other.  :2funny: :2funny:


Still barking with no proof as your claim earlier? That's okay, you're a dog after all.
Damn, I struck a nerve. You're the only one here hahaing like a little white girl who isn't getting what she wants. Don't get mad at me because you're a slave on the Democratic voting plantation who believes EVERYTHING the left owned mainstream media tells him. I asked you before and you never responded. Have you ever looked at any of Trump's policies, his actual policies?

And I actually can prove that this is our country. We're here aren't we? Trump never said he was going to deport all non-white Americans. He's a businessman, he understands that getting rid of Asians is like driving a car without fuel. We are the most successful demographic in this country, encluding Hmong which is quite impressive considering our most recent arrival. An ethnic minority from South East Asia, not knowing any English and having no real Job skills and less than 50 years we have become businessmen, lawyers, physicians, and even politicians. In fact, Hmong are the only migrant ethnic group who excels at politics than any other migrant group ever.

Not our country? Nowhere in any founding document says that this land was meant for whites only. We Hmong are more prosperous than ever before and we would never be more prosperous anywhere else. And don't say "Well, if we had our own country we would be even more prosperous" and would only seem that way because we would be the ONLY PEOPLE THERE!!!

I don't even know why I've wasted my time on you. You're just another low I.Q. white hating Hmong who dream too much. You want a Hmong country, I want Hmong to be great in every country.

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Title: Re: Will Hmong have a country?
Post by: Meestahh_Prince on August 30, 2018, 01:19:52 AM
Damn, I struck a nerve. You're the only one here hahaing like a little white girl who isn't getting what she wants. Don't get mad at me because you're a slave on the Democratic voting plantation who believes EVERYTHING the left owned mainstream media tells him. I asked you before and you never responded. Have you ever looked at any of Trump's policies, his actual policies?

And I actually can prove that this is our country. We're here aren't we? Trump never said he was going to deport all non-white Americans. He's a businessman, he understands that getting rid of Asians is like driving a car without fuel. We are the most successful demographic in this country, encluding Hmong which is quite impressive considering our most recent arrival. An ethnic minority from South East Asia, not knowing any English and having no real Job skills and less than 50 years we have become businessmen, lawyers, physicians, and even politicians. In fact, Hmong are the only migrant ethnic group who excels at politics than any other migrant group ever.

Not our country? Nowhere in any founding document says that this land was meant for whites only. We Hmong are more prosperous than ever before and we would never be more prosperous anywhere else. And don't say "Well, if we had our own country we would be even more prosperous" and would only seem that way because we would be the ONLY PEOPLE THERE!!!

I don't even know why I've wasted my time on you. You're just another low I.Q. white hating Hmong who dream too much. You want a Hmong country, I want Hmong to be great in every country.

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I was expecting some legit proof like pics/video of you grasping Trumps hand with your small hand telling him this is your Country but you brought up this ridiculous policies as your proof that is your Country? Retarded as ever  :idiot2: :idiot2:. You have some mad talent for becoming national Clown, do yourself a favor stop moaning and embarrassing yourself. You sounded like them Mexican chick who thought they're doing a good deed voted for Trump only to get their husband deported.  :idiot2: ....Sure you're here...as minority or what your master Trump would deem it as pest to his Country hence his notorious quote 'make America great(white) again'...If you like to prove your point, its simple just go to Trump and see for yourself.






Title: Re: Will Hmong have a country?
Post by: Meestahh_Prince on August 30, 2018, 01:21:03 AM
I bark and bite. And I already chewed you up and showed your stupidity.  O0

Naw...you got it wrong dawg, that's luelee ...:2funny:
Title: Re: Will Hmong have a country?
Post by: DaCurse on September 01, 2018, 12:57:31 AM
What the white man doesn't realize is that Asians are more closely related to the native Americans..so when a white man tell you to go back to where you come from...you tell them, according to DNA, we would be more in position to tell you to go back to where you come from...haha
Title: Re: Will Hmong have a country?
Post by: TheAfterLife on September 11, 2018, 04:16:06 PM
if hmong has a country, cockfighting and growing mary janes will be legal...cops will be running away and geting chase by criminals instead...all Hmong schools will have a corrupted superintendent, and all Hmong business will comit frauds...and the government will pocket all taxes...the Vang clan will get away with just about anything...and Hmong girls will become prostitutes by age 13....and of course, our president will most likely be a white dude.... :2funny:

Well, it will be like the Wild West. It must occur in order to make a nation better. I mean, look at America. They gone through that and got out of it. That doesn't mean the Wild West will live forever.
Title: Re: Will Hmong have a country?
Post by: TheAfterLife on September 11, 2018, 04:36:03 PM
It isn't; than whose? The last one wasn't, or the last one before one that. At least something goes on in my head unlike so many who think we should have a country. Nobody here apparently thinks ahead or THINKS at all for that matter.

Where is this land going to come from; who are we TAKING this piece of land from; you think the UN is just going to give us a parcel and the people who currently owns it is just going to be cool about it? We will have to fight for it, like every damn time in our history. I don't bend the knee to no one in the US but you'll be damn sure whoever's land we take will demand WE bend the knee to them or try to wipe us off the face of the earth like so many before them.

Shape our people? We don't need a country for that, thats not what shapes a people, our struggle is what shaped our people. Thousands of years of war and genocide and yet here we are. You think a piece of land will end all that? We have a chance at peace now and no one can stop us from owning private property in the U.S. because that's our right as IT'S citizens.

I don't see us with a country any time soon. And apparently just posing the question "Do we even need a country?" is just too much for Hmong like you to handle. So sorry that THINKING triggers you so damn much. I'm not imagining crap and claiming it to be fact. I consider many possibilities and calculate the most likely outcome. I do NOT want the Hmong people to go through what the Israelis are going through today. The Hmong have suffered a genocide that took 75% of our population less than 50 years ago. Haven't the people suffered enough? Maybe some day the Hmong will have their own country but not now I don't think. We need to show the world we are great without one first, the Hmong need to unite as a people; otherwise my father was right: we don't deserve our own country. What would be the point of fighting for a country only to jump into civil war; ever think about?

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Then how do we resolve the feudal-Japan-Wild-West crap? If America goes to war against China, Hmong will suffer in the crossfire. In fact, the enemies would shoot at each other while Hmong are in between the crossfire and one of us would get hit. We need a foot in order to put it down or else, the war between communist and capitalist would kill anybody whoever is either innocent or guilty.

I don't understand Hmong people. We came from a powerful ancient empire of wealth, political power, and army in China; yet, how did we come so low and cowardly like those Chinese folks who are afraid of Hmong people in history? We fought like a Viking in China, killed thousands and countless of lives; yet, we hesitated and argued among ourselves in bitterness that we should just let shiit happen so it because only?

Are we going to repeat our same mistakes like how we failed to make a pack with the French people who wants us to take over Laos; yet, we didn't accept their offer because of our kindness? No! No more being bullied by other foreign people. There is enough bloodshed already. Are we going to let this just slide like as if it never happened? If someone slap you, are Hmong people going to be like, "Oh, ok. Slap me on the other cheek?" Thai people are afraid of Hmong people today and still, we can do something horrific to them if we want to. They won't fight fair because they know they will lose. We can bring a guerrilla warfare upon their nation and end their lives in a matter of an instant. Laos are pussies and slaves to North Vietnam while South Vietnam continues to praise for GVP. Hmong and Mien are friends for a long time and we come to an accord for a common interest with a common enemy that we don't like for a very, very long time.

Will Hmong stay vigilant? I don't know. If Hmong people don't want a country, then Hmong people will never know how to defend themselves from a next generation of genocide while the powerful will tell lies about us that we are the enemy who attacked them like how China would do it to the Hmong people. They would tamper the history that exist today and the history of tomorrow. Just look at Laos that is trying so hard to tamper the evidence and genocide in Laos when it comes to us. History repeats the same mistake for Hmong people ever since 3000 B.C. until now.
Title: Re: Will Hmong have a country?
Post by: Believe_N_Me on September 12, 2018, 01:45:25 AM
Meestah,

Sorry to burst your Leftist bubble but even white people who marry foreigners without Visas cannot get their spouses into the country.

As for all your hysterics, there are racist people who don't want non-whites in this country but the principles and dream behind the country are not racist. If you're here legally and are a naturalized citizen than this country is yours until you do something so diametrically anti-American that there is no alternative but to boot you out.

If racists have issues with me then that's their problem. Too bad for them because I am here legally and I am protected by the law. By the principles of the Constitution that their white founding fathers wrote, I am protected.

But I always say that racists aren't the problem. The problem are a/ssholes. There are plenty of civil racists - like Asians such as the Hmong, who would not actually take action to hurt someone based on race. In fact, there are a whole bunch of racists in the world but many of them are too consumed with their own daily problems to worry about you. And most people generally agree that it is better to be civil because they want to be good people - "good" as in behavior despite their ignorant or undesirable opinion of others.



Title: Re: Will Hmong have a country?
Post by: Believe_N_Me on September 12, 2018, 02:01:19 AM
Then how do we resolve the feudal-Japan-Wild-West crap? If America goes to war against China, Hmong will suffer in the crossfire. In fact, the enemies would shoot at each other while Hmong are in between the crossfire and one of us would get hit. We need a foot in order to put it down or else, the war between communist and capitalist would kill anybody whoever is either innocent or guilty.

I don't understand Hmong people. We came from a powerful ancient empire of wealth, political power, and army in China; yet, how did we come so low and cowardly like those Chinese folks who are afraid of Hmong people in history? We fought like a Viking in China, killed thousands and countless of lives; yet, we hesitated and argued among ourselves in bitterness that we should just let shiit happen so it because only?

Are we going to repeat our same mistakes like how we failed to make a pack with the French people who wants us to take over Laos; yet, we didn't accept their offer because of our kindness? No! No more being bullied by other foreign people. There is enough bloodshed already. Are we going to let this just slide like as if it never happened? If someone slap you, are Hmong people going to be like, "Oh, ok. Slap me on the other cheek?" Thai people are afraid of Hmong people today and still, we can do something horrific to them if we want to. They won't fight fair because they know they will lose. We can bring a guerrilla warfare upon their nation and end their lives in a matter of an instant. Laos are pussies and slaves to North Vietnam while South Vietnam continues to praise for GVP. Hmong and Mien are friends for a long time and we come to an accord for a common interest with a common enemy that we don't like for a very, very long time.

Will Hmong stay vigilant? I don't know. If Hmong people don't want a country, then Hmong people will never know how to defend themselves from a next generation of genocide while the powerful will tell lies about us that we are the enemy who attacked them like how China would do it to the Hmong people. They would tamper the history that exist today and the history of tomorrow. Just look at Laos that is trying so hard to tamper the evidence and genocide in Laos when it comes to us. History repeats the same mistake for Hmong people ever since 3000 B.C. until now.

You're getting ahead of yourself here. The Hmong, like blacks, are nothing more than reactionaries.

They may be tough as reactionaries but in times of peace they do nothing to flourish and advance themselves. This means assemble, establish a thriving civilization, and draw territories while building an army to defend their interests.

The Hmong only know how to act when s.hit has already hit the ceiling fan. Then they go ape-s/hit.

Everyday the Hmong are showing themselves to be more and more like blacks. Very gullible and easily exploited by more advanced cultures.

Like I said, how can the Hmong have a freaking country when they can't even manage a neighborhood block? If it were white people they would already have an HOA, block captains, welcome wagon, neighborhood watch, crossing guard, etc. They would be organizing clean up day, Halloween safety night, storm watch, etc.

When I used to live among a lot of minorities it was every person for themselves. If bad weather hit nobody went around to check on their neighbors. But in a white subdivision when there is bad winter, often we have white people designated to come out in their snow mobiles just to check if we have power and running water, etc. 

Why do you think blacks are always hit the hardest when a hurricane hits? BECAUSE THEY ARE THE LEAST DAMN ORGANIZED AS A COMMUNITY. But if a black thug gets shot by the police....oooo h, they come out from the woodworks to protest. But when a hurricane is going to hit, they act like they don't know each other. They fight over water in Walmart.

Title: Re: Will Hmong have a country?
Post by: dogmai on September 12, 2018, 07:20:25 AM
Then how do we resolve the feudal-Japan-Wild-West crap? If America goes to war against China, Hmong will suffer in the crossfire. In fact, the enemies would shoot at each other while Hmong are in between the crossfire and one of us would get hit. We need a foot in order to put it down or else, the war between communist and capitalist would kill anybody whoever is either innocent or guilty.

I don't understand Hmong people. We came from a powerful ancient empire of wealth, political power, and army in China; yet, how did we come so low and cowardly like those Chinese folks who are afraid of Hmong people in history? We fought like a Viking in China, killed thousands and countless of lives; yet, we hesitated and argued among ourselves in bitterness that we should just let shiit happen so it because only?
Vikings were great warriors, but where are they today? Samurai were great warriors, but where are they today?
Are we going to repeat our same mistakes like how we failed to make a pack with the French people who wants us to take over Laos; yet, we didn't accept their offer because of our kindness? No! No more being bullied by other foreign people. There is enough bloodshed already. Are we going to let this just slide like as if it never happened? If someone slap you, are Hmong people going to be like, "Oh, ok. Slap me on the other cheek?" Thai people are afraid of Hmong people today and still, we can do something horrific to them if we want to. They won't fight fair because they know they will lose. We can bring a guerrilla warfare upon their nation and end their lives in a matter of an instant. Laos are pussies and slaves to North Vietnam while South Vietnam continues to praise for GVP. Hmong and Mien are friends for a long time and we come to an accord for a common interest with a common enemy that we don't like for a very, very long time.History will repeat itself. Hmong will lose. Do you want to know why hmong lost all those wars back then? - Pride. It can help you win the battle, but it can end up losing the war for you. 

Will Hmong stay vigilant? I don't know. If Hmong people don't want a country, then Hmong people will never know how to defend themselves from a next generation of genocide while the powerful will tell lies about us that we are the enemy who attacked them like how China would do it to the Hmong people. They would tamper the history that exist today and the history of tomorrow. Just look at Laos that is trying so hard to tamper the evidence and genocide in Laos when it comes to us. History repeats the same mistake for Hmong people ever since 3000 B.C. until now.

I would have to disagree with that. I believe that,  hmong people must know how to defend themselves before they will see a country. Evidence of this are the hmong people in the US. Those who know how to defend themselves, see themselves as equals, and call this country theirs. Those who can't defend themselves, see them as unequaled and outsiders, unable/unwilling to defend themselves from, racism, idealologies, etc. And I'm not talking about a simple fist fight.

"Victorious warriors win first and then go to war, while defeated warriors go to war first and then seek to win." - Art of War
Title: Re: Will Hmong have a country?
Post by: Mr_Mechanic on September 12, 2018, 07:34:10 AM
to all who still wants and talks about hmong having a country besides the usa...........


when will you start packing your bags???
Title: Re: Will Hmong have a country?
Post by: dogmai on September 12, 2018, 07:53:35 AM
I was expecting some legit proof like pics/video of you grasping Trumps hand with your small hand telling him this is your Country but you brought up this ridiculous policies as your proof that is your Country? Retarded as ever  :idiot2: :idiot2:. You have some mad talent for becoming national Clown, do yourself a favor stop moaning and embarrassing yourself. You sounded like them Mexican chick who thought they're doing a good deed voted for Trump only to get their husband deported.  :idiot2: ....Sure you're here...as minority or what your master Trump would deem it as pest to his Country hence his notorious quote 'make America great(white) again'...If you like to prove your point, its simple just go to Trump and see for yourself.

Proof is, I haven't gotten deported yet.

A slave will remain a slave if he/she choose to be a slave. A pest will remain a pest is he/she choose to be a pest. Others see you as you see yourself. Having Self respect is important. It reflects that to others. Having no self respect, you will be treated as that.

Just look at racism. If you respect yourself and show it to racists people, they are going to treat you different. They might still hate you for your race, but they will treat you different from before.
Title: Re: Will Hmong have a country?
Post by: DuMa on September 12, 2018, 08:48:23 AM
Hmong will not have a country just like an old meat, old person should not get a tattoo.  The game to search and hunt for land is long gone and nation's have teamed up to form alliance to help one another from losing their land.  The game is lock these days.  The wanting a country field is long gone.  Why the Laos people hate y'all Hmong?  Cuz y'all trying to cause a ruckus and trying to over thrown another man's country. 

Plus there are people who prevents y'all from coming up.  Racism plays a big part of it.  They hate y'all to keep y'all at bay.  Just like the women rights movements.  Now women wants equal pay and that last Hmong chick I dated, well she a feminist and believes that we are equal and to that, I say go ahead and pay the bill.  I then feel like a bish.  They ruined everything I tell ya.

Plus here is something to think about.  If evolution is true then that racism traits that men have should be a good thing for his own survival.  If it gets passed then it must be a good thing?  Actually it is not.  We started out as pure.  Then the more we breed, the more bad genes get passed and eventually should kill us all.  Sure there are traits that gets passed but that is only for our survival in the present world.  It does not mean that it is good so racism, if it is a trait from our forefathers is now with us for a reason. 

That reason is still undefined as we continue to hate our way through this fawked up world.  A defense mechanism so of speak. 

Go ahead and disagree.  :2funny:
Title: Re: Will Hmong have a country?
Post by: DaCurse on September 14, 2018, 03:35:43 PM
hmong people sucks...plain and simple...haha too many idiots and not enough smart ones to keep these idiots in check...some of these countries out there can barely keep their people contain.....ev en in America, the government is very wary of some kind of revolution.... the truth of the matter is....not all ethncities are equal...some are just more quality than others....and we Hmong are the best looking, but we are definitely lack a lot of other qualities...as a whole...becaus e I know there are some outstanding Hmiggas out there...but the number of idiots far exceed us...hahah
Title: Re: Will Hmong have a country?
Post by: luelee1985 on September 14, 2018, 08:24:05 PM
I was expecting some legit proof like pics/video of you grasping Trumps hand with your small hand telling him this is your Country but you brought up this ridiculous policies as your proof that is your Country? Retarded as ever  :idiot2: :idiot2:. You have some mad talent for becoming national Clown, do yourself a favor stop moaning and embarrassing yourself. You sounded like them Mexican chick who thought they're doing a good deed voted for Trump only to get their husband deported.  :idiot2: ....Sure you're here...as minority or what your master Trump would deem it as pest to his Country hence his notorious quote 'make America great(white) again'...If you like to prove your point, its simple just go to Trump and see for yourself.
Because after having been born here and have lived in the United States for 32 years, I'm still here. Legitimate proof, my social security number, my birth certificate, my CDL (you can't get that unless you were vetted by homeland security). I don't need to prove anymore than that. Black and Mexican employment has been higher since ever, you see them complain? No, all I see complaining is another nigger who takes his liberties for granted, hahaing about problems that don't exist like another whiny little punk.

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Title: Re: Will Hmong have a country?
Post by: luelee1985 on September 14, 2018, 09:02:11 PM
Then how do we resolve the feudal-Japan-Wild-West crap? If America goes to war against China, Hmong will suffer in the crossfire. In fact, the enemies would shoot at each other while Hmong are in between the crossfire and one of us would get hit. We need a foot in order to put it down or else, the war between communist and capitalist would kill anybody whoever is either innocent or guilty.

I don't understand Hmong people. We came from a powerful ancient empire of wealth, political power, and army in China; yet, how did we come so low and cowardly like those Chinese folks who are afraid of Hmong people in history? We fought like a Viking in China, killed thousands and countless of lives; yet, we hesitated and argued among ourselves in bitterness that we should just let shiit happen so it because only?

Are we going to repeat our same mistakes like how we failed to make a pack with the French people who wants us to take over Laos; yet, we didn't accept their offer because of our kindness? No! No more being bullied by other foreign people. There is enough bloodshed already. Are we going to let this just slide like as if it never happened? If someone slap you, are Hmong people going to be like, "Oh, ok. Slap me on the other cheek?" Thai people are afraid of Hmong people today and still, we can do something horrific to them if we want to. They won't fight fair because they know they will lose. We can bring a guerrilla warfare upon their nation and end their lives in a matter of an instant. Laos are pussies and slaves to North Vietnam while South Vietnam continues to praise for GVP. Hmong and Mien are friends for a long time and we come to an accord for a common interest with a common enemy that we don't like for a very, very long time.

Will Hmong stay vigilant? I don't know. If Hmong people don't want a country, then Hmong people will never know how to defend themselves from a next generation of genocide while the powerful will tell lies about us that we are the enemy who attacked them like how China would do it to the Hmong people. They would tamper the history that exist today and the history of tomorrow. Just look at Laos that is trying so hard to tamper the evidence and genocide in Laos when it comes to us. History repeats the same mistake for Hmong people ever since 3000 B.C. until now.
If you've been keeping up with the conversation than you would have read my suggestion. Stop worrying about building a country and focus on the people instead. We don't need land to be a great people. And so what if the U.S. goes to war with China or vice versa. If we take land and make it our own than our neighoring country will fight us for legitimacy.

We need to end the conflict between the clans and establish a set of principles to live by, they can be traditional or new or preferably a mixture of the two. We don't need to be white washed but we need to recognize that they delivered a more efficient and more fair political and legal system. China has been around for 5000 yrs, establishing dynasty after dynasty and they still haven't done it right; they just go back to big beaucratic governments. The west is the best when it came to its legal and political system.

All this social justice, marxist bullshit needs to stop, its what killed 75% of the Hmong population in Laos back in the 60s and 70s in the first place. Bringing that back here, to the U.S. is a greater threat than China; China is hilariously behind the U.S. in terms of military power.

"In war, numbers confer no advantage. Do not advance on sheer military power." - Sun Tzu

If Hmong wish to be great, we need to rebuild our culture first. The Hmong will have to be reformed.

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Title: Re: Will Hmong have a country?
Post by: TheAfterLife on September 18, 2018, 04:48:48 PM

The Hmong only know how to act when s.hit has already hit the ceiling fan. Then they go ape-s/hit.


I will blame the Chinese blood in our Hmong blood. They are like that too! If we didn't get mix with those morons, maybe Hmong would have been differently like those Vietnamese people who will die in a fight.
Title: Re: Will Hmong have a country?
Post by: TheAfterLife on September 18, 2018, 04:50:34 PM
I would have to disagree with that. I believe that,  hmong people must know how to defend themselves before they will see a country. Evidence of this are the hmong people in the US. Those who know how to defend themselves, see themselves as equals, and call this country theirs. Those who can't defend themselves, see them as unequaled and outsiders, unable/unwilling to defend themselves from, racism, idealologies, etc. And I'm not talking about a simple fist fight.

"Victorious warriors win first and then go to war, while defeated warriors go to war first and then seek to win." - Art of War

True to say on that. I will blame the Chinese blood in our Hmong genes! >:(
Title: Re: Will Hmong have a country?
Post by: TheAfterLife on September 18, 2018, 04:53:59 PM
If you've been keeping up with the conversation than you would have read my suggestion. Stop worrying about building a country and focus on the people instead. We don't need land to be a great people. And so what if the U.S. goes to war with China or vice versa. If we take land and make it our own than our neighoring country will fight us for legitimacy.

We need to end the conflict between the clans and establish a set of principles to live by, they can be traditional or new or preferably a mixture of the two. We don't need to be white washed but we need to recognize that they delivered a more efficient and more fair political and legal system. China has been around for 5000 yrs, establishing dynasty after dynasty and they still haven't done it right; they just go back to big beaucratic governments. The west is the best when it came to its legal and political system.

All this social justice, marxist bullshit needs to stop, its what killed 75% of the Hmong population in Laos back in the 60s and 70s in the first place. Bringing that back here, to the U.S. is a greater threat than China; China is hilariously behind the U.S. in terms of military power.

"In war, numbers confer no advantage. Do not advance on sheer military power." - Sun Tzu

If Hmong wish to be great, we need to rebuild our culture first. The Hmong will have to be reformed.

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Then the clans from China, America, and Indochina will be hard. May God find a way for Hmong to have hope on their people.
Title: Re: Will Hmong have a country?
Post by: Meestahh_Prince on September 19, 2018, 02:29:06 AM

Now women wants equal pay and that last Hmong chick I dated, well she a feminist and believes that we are equal and to that, I say go ahead and pay the bill.  I then feel like a bish.



In other words, you got twist, lock, spread and bent over like a Viet b!tch by a Hmong chick.  :2funny:
Title: Re: Will Hmong have a country?
Post by: Meestahh_Prince on September 19, 2018, 02:55:56 AM
Meestah,

Sorry to burst your Leftist bubble but even white people who marry foreigners without Visas cannot get their spouses into the country.

As for all your hysterics, there are racist people who don't want non-whites in this country but the principles and dream behind the country are not racist. If you're here legally and are a naturalized citizen than this country is yours until you do something so diametrically anti-American that there is no alternative but to boot you out.

If racists have issues with me then that's their problem. Too bad for them because I am here legally and I am protected by the law. By the principles of the Constitution that their white founding fathers wrote, I am protected.

But I always say that racists aren't the problem. The problem are a/ssholes. There are plenty of civil racists - like Asians such as the Hmong, who would not actually take action to hurt someone based on race. In fact, there are a whole bunch of racists in the world but many of them are too consumed with their own daily problems to worry about you. And most people generally agree that it is better to be civil because they want to be good people - "good" as in behavior despite their ignorant or undesirable opinion of others.

Because after having been born here and have lived in the United States for 32 years, I'm still here. Legitimate proof, my social security number, my birth certificate, my CDL (you can't get that unless you were vetted by homeland security). I don't need to prove anymore than that. Black and Mexican employment has been higher since ever, you see them complain? No, all I see complaining is another nigger who takes his liberties for granted, hahaing about problems that don't exist like another whiny little punk.

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Proof is, I haven't gotten deported yet.

A slave will remain a slave if he/she choose to be a slave. A pest will remain a pest is he/she choose to be a pest. Others see you as you see yourself. Having Self respect is important. It reflects that to others. Having no self respect, you will be treated as that.

Just look at racism. If you respect yourself and show it to racists people, they are going to treat you different. They might still hate you for your race, but they will treat you different from before.

Even Duma can tell you this Country isn't yours.

Hmong will not have a country just like an old meat, old person should not get a tattoo.  The game to search and hunt for land is long gone and nation's have teamed up to form alliance to help one another from losing their land.  The game is lock these days.  The wanting a country field is long gone.  Why the Laos people hate y'all Hmong?  Cuz y'all trying to cause a ruckus and trying to over thrown another man's country. 

Plus there are people who prevents y'all from coming up.  Racism plays a big part of it.  They hate y'all to keep y'all at bay.  Just like the women rights movements.  Now women wants equal pay and that last Hmong chick I dated, well she a feminist and believes that we are equal and to that, I say go ahead and pay the bill.  I then feel like a bish.  They ruined everything I tell ya.

Plus here is something to think about.  If evolution is true then that racism traits that men have should be a good thing for his own survival.  If it gets passed then it must be a good thing?  Actually it is not.  We started out as pure.  Then the more we breed, the more bad genes get passed and eventually should kill us all.  Sure there are traits that gets passed but that is only for our survival in the present world.  It does not mean that it is good so racism, if it is a trait from our forefathers is now with us for a reason. 

That reason is still undefined as we continue to hate our way through this fawked up world.  A defense mechanism so of speak. 

Go ahead and disagree.  :2funny:
Title: Re: Will Hmong have a country?
Post by: Meestahh_Prince on September 19, 2018, 03:49:55 AM
If you've been keeping up with the conversation than you would have read my suggestion. Stop worrying about building a country and focus on the people instead. We don't need land to be a great people. And so what if the U.S. goes to war with China or vice versa. If we take land and make it our own than our neighoring country will fight us for legitimacy.

We need to end the conflict between the clans and establish a set of principles to live by, they can be traditional or new or preferably a mixture of the two. We don't need to be white washed but we need to recognize that they delivered a more efficient and more fair political and legal system. China has been around for 5000 yrs, establishing dynasty after dynasty and they still haven't done it right; they just go back to big beaucratic governments. The west is the best when it came to its legal and political system.

All this social justice, marxist bullshit needs to stop, its what killed 75% of the Hmong population in Laos back in the 60s and 70s in the first place. Bringing that back here, to the U.S. is a greater threat than China; China is hilariously behind the U.S. in terms of military power.

"In war, numbers confer no advantage. Do not advance on sheer military power." - Sun Tzu

If Hmong wish to be great, we need to rebuild our culture first. The Hmong will have to be reformed.

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Hmong needs Country to thrive and be great. Obviously you haven't invest enough thought into.
Title: Re: Will Hmong have a country?
Post by: Meestahh_Prince on September 19, 2018, 04:00:47 AM
Hmong will not have a country just like an old meat, old person should not get a tattoo.  The game to search and hunt for land is long gone and nation's have teamed up to form alliance to help one another from losing their land.  The game is lock these days.  The wanting a country field is long gone.  Why the Laos people hate y'all Hmong?  Cuz y'all trying to cause a ruckus and trying to over thrown another man's country. 

Plus there are people who prevents y'all from coming up.  Racism plays a big part of it.  They hate y'all to keep y'all at bay.  Just like the women rights movements.  Now women wants equal pay and that last Hmong chick I dated, well she a feminist and believes that we are equal and to that, I say go ahead and pay the bill.  I then feel like a bish.  They ruined everything I tell ya.

Plus here is something to think about.  If evolution is true then that racism traits that men have should be a good thing for his own survival.  If it gets passed then it must be a good thing?  Actually it is not.  We started out as pure.  Then the more we breed, the more bad genes get passed and eventually should kill us all.  Sure there are traits that gets passed but that is only for our survival in the present world.  It does not mean that it is good so racism, if it is a trait from our forefathers is now with us for a reason. 

That reason is still undefined as we continue to hate our way through this fawked up world.  A defense mechanism so of speak. 

Go ahead and disagree.  :2funny:

Nation rise and fall and gets taken over by its foe. A self proclaimed independent Country like Taiwan gets threaten and pressured to be taken over by China whom scares the fawk out of Vietnam to back off South China Sea and further dipping its hand into Laos and it has always been so since prehistory record. No need to be so insecurely defensive, a Corrupted Country infested with prostitution like Vietnam has nothing good to offer to Hmong people. Perhaps you can offer that sort of advice to Vietnamese if Vietnam ever gets taken over by another Country. 
Title: Re: Will Hmong have a country?
Post by: DuMa on September 19, 2018, 05:28:21 AM
In other words, you got twist, lock, spread and bent over like a Viet b!tch by a Hmong chick.  :2funny:

I don't fight over the bills no more. 

A penny save is a penny reinvested into another chick.