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xyom cuab: ua tsaug
« on: August 12, 2010, 12:51:20 AM »
does anyone here know how i would go about saying ua tsaug.. from a xyom cuab standpoint..
i got a uncle's funeral coming up.. any general help/advice on such is much appreciated.


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Re: xyom cuab: ua tsaug
« Reply #1 on: August 12, 2010, 09:40:59 AM »
xyom cuab:

ua tsaug mog,
luag hais tias, yeeb vim peb tsev xyom cuab,
tsev mob tsev nkeeg, tsev puas tsev ntsoog
ntog ib teeg, tu ib sawv
los koj tsis cia li, koj tseem xav neej xav tsav,
xav ntsuab xav ze,
koj tseem cab yag cab nco, tshaj ntuj qa nco nto
tuaj pab peb tsev xyom cuab nta dab nta qhua kom ntseg log puas tam ncej txawb

hnub qab nram lub ntsis,
peb tsev xyom cuab txawj ua lub neej ces yuav pauj tau koj tus txiaj tus ntsig no lau
nram qab nram ntsis tsev xyom cuab tsis txawj ua lub neej los,
koj tus txhia ntsha yuav nqa txhia ntsig yuav ris no laus mog.



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Re: xyom cuab: ua tsaug
« Reply #2 on: September 14, 2010, 07:39:48 PM »
xyom cuab:

ua tsaug mog,
luag hais tias, yeeb vim peb tsev xyom cuab,
tsev mob tsev nkeeg, tsev puas tsev ntsoog
ntog ib teeg, tu ib sawv
los koj tsis cia li, koj tseem xav neej xav tsav,
xav ntsuab xav ze,
koj tseem cab yag cab nco, tshaj ntuj qa nco nto
tuaj pab peb tsev xyom cuab nta dab nta qhua kom ntseg log puas tam ncej txawb

hnub qab nram lub ntsis,
peb tsev xyom cuab txawj ua lub neej ces yuav pauj tau koj tus txiaj tus ntsig no lau
nram qab nram ntsis tsev xyom cuab tsis txawj ua lub neej los,
koj tus txhia ntsha yuav nqa txhia ntsig yuav ris no laus mog.


Hey guy....can you make a recording of this and post it?  Thanks for all the help!



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Re: xyom cuab: ua tsaug
« Reply #3 on: September 24, 2010, 10:31:38 PM »
You dont need a recording for this. This is only a 30 second thing.

If I were you I rather get my a.ss to a Hmong funeral home, get rid of my pride and ask them to teach me, and even have them drag me to thank the people who offer donations or gift to the family.  ( That's how I learn, I got rid of my upscale pride ( having a prestige job, going to a well known university, received a good as.s good, making good as.s money, having bbq every weekend with friends and family but no shiat about my Hmong tradition) and now just beginning to understand the tradition, I know it'll be a long long way, but at least I admit my defeat).w


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Re: xyom cuab: ua tsaug
« Reply #4 on: September 27, 2010, 11:08:06 PM »
You dont need a recording for this. This is only a 30 second thing.

If I were you I rather get my a.ss to a Hmong funeral home, get rid of my pride and ask them to teach me, and even have them drag me to thank the people who offer donations or gift to the family.  ( That's how I learn, I got rid of my upscale pride ( having a prestige job, going to a well known university, received a good as.s good, making good as.s money, having bbq every weekend with friends and family but no shiat about my Hmong tradition) and now just beginning to understand the tradition, I know it'll be a long long way, but at least I admit my defeat).w


I agree! The ones who know are usually more than happy to teach you if you're willing to learn!

I have my dad and uncle teach me, but the only thing is, I can't take part in it because i'm female.  ??? Ces nyob ntawn nej cov txiv neej lawm xwb.



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Re: xyom cuab: ua tsaug
« Reply #5 on: September 30, 2010, 01:34:40 PM »
You dont need a recording for this. This is only a 30 second thing.

If I were you I rather get my a.ss to a Hmong funeral home, get rid of my pride and ask them to teach me, and even have them drag me to thank the people who offer donations or gift to the family.  ( That's how I learn, I got rid of my upscale pride ( having a prestige job, going to a well known university, received a good as.s good, making good as.s money, having bbq every weekend with friends and family but no shiat about my Hmong tradition) and now just beginning to understand the tradition, I know it'll be a long long way, but at least I admit my defeat).w


damn this thing is hard to learn because i can not read hmong and know enough hmong words.  i need a video so that i can replay it over and over



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Re: xyom cuab: ua tsaug
« Reply #6 on: September 30, 2010, 01:41:40 PM »

here...keep it simple:

ua tsaug ov, peb tsev xyom cuab muaj kev puag kev nroog (or you can say muaj kev pluj kev tuag), koj tsi cas le, koj tseem xaam kwv xaam tij, xaam neej xaam tsaav.  koj coj nyaj coj txaj tuaj pub tsev xyom cuab.  tsev xyom cuab yuav ncu nroov koj kev tshaav ntuj moog le os mog.



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Re: xyom cuab: ua tsaug
« Reply #7 on: October 01, 2010, 12:27:12 PM »
Ua koj tsaug mog ..(tuav lub npe..)  Yeeb vim peb tsev yom cuab ntsib kev ploj kev tuag, ib siab ob qhig, cuav ib qhog qhaug ib pes..
koj tsis cia li koj tseem xav txog kwv txog tij, txog phooj txog ywg, txog neej txog tshav,  koj qas dag qas zog qas nyiaj qas txhiaj qas dej qas cawvs tuaj pab peb yom cuab tiam kwv tiam tij tiam neej tiam tshav ntas dab ntas qua.

Hnub qab ram rig yog peb yom cuab txawj ua lub neej ces koj mes txhiaj tsig los peb yuas ris txhiaj tsa los peb yuav qas mus ib txis mog. Yog peb tsis txhawj ua lub neej ces koj mes txhiaj tsig tse peb yuav muab ua nag ua tshauv tshoob mus mog.. es ua koj tsaug... 

Yus pes tag ces mus ce ib khob cawv rau tus neeg no haus..  UA TSAUG OB ZAUG.....



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Re: xyom cuab: ua tsaug
« Reply #8 on: October 20, 2010, 08:08:53 PM »
You dont need a recording for this. This is only a 30 second thing.

If I were you I rather get my a.ss to a Hmong funeral home, get rid of my pride and ask them to teach me, and even have them drag me to thank the people who offer donations or gift to the family.  ( That's how I learn, I got rid of my upscale pride ( having a prestige job, going to a well known university, received a good as.s good, making good as.s money, having bbq every weekend with friends and family but no shiat about my Hmong tradition) and now just beginning to understand the tradition, I know it'll be a long long way, but at least I admit my defeat).w



Thanks for the advice, but its a little hard to do that while i'm not around many hmong people at the moment.  I'm obviously bored and thought this is something i could do to keep myself occupied for a while.  thanks anyhow.



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Re: xyom cuab: ua tsaug
« Reply #9 on: October 21, 2010, 12:41:18 AM »
ua tsaug mog and then (tuav lub npe ) and social group name if you know whether (grandpa, txiv ntxawv, hlob, dab laug, tus kwv, tus tij,tus npawg)
ahhh..luag tias, yeeb vim peb tsev xyom cuab
muaj tsev mob, tsev nkeeg, tsev puas, tsev ntsoog
ntog ib teeg, tu ib sawv
cauv ib qhog,qhaug ib pes
Koj tsis cia li, koj tseem xav kwv xav tij, xav neej , xav tsa, xav phooj xav ywg, xav nruab xav ze
koj tseem cab yag cab nco, nyiag txiag qas nto
tuaj pab peb tsev xyom cuab nta dab nta qhuab ntseg log puas tam ncej txawb

Hnub qab nram lub ntsis
Yog Peb tsev xyom cuab txawj ua lub neej ces koj tus txiaj ntsha peb yuav nqa, koj tus txiaj ntsig peb yuav ris mus ib txhiab ib txis laus
Yog peb tsev xyom cuab tsis txawj ua lub neej ces koj tus txiaj tus ntsig peb yuav muab ua nag ua tsauv tshoob laus..


pes ib pes




everyone has their version..this the version i learned..


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Re: xyom cuab: ua tsaug
« Reply #10 on: October 27, 2010, 12:20:11 AM »
see my other post

http://www.pebhmong.com/forum/index.php/topic,183608.0.html

and click on 'xyom cuab ua tsaug'.


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Re: xyom cuab: ua tsaug
« Reply #11 on: November 02, 2010, 02:00:34 PM »
You dont need a recording for this. This is only a 30 second thing.

If I were you I rather get my a.ss to a Hmong funeral home, get rid of my pride and ask them to teach me, and even have them drag me to thank the people who offer donations or gift to the family.  ( That's how I learn, I got rid of my upscale pride ( having a prestige job, going to a well known university, received a good as.s good, making good as.s money, having bbq every weekend with friends and family but no shiat about my Hmong tradition) and now just beginning to understand the tradition, I know it'll be a long long way, but at least I admit my defeat).w



  you and me both bro...i am the same way..except the money part ...LOL  I just recently purchase a book that one of my uncles wrote.  It helped me understand the traditional ways.  I can't believe that I never learned some of these things when i was a kid.  To me, i feel like a part of me has return.   

Here's his book. 

http://www.amazon.com/Introduction-Hmong-Culture-Ya-Cha/dp/0786449519/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1288724737&sr=8-1


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Re: xyom cuab: ua tsaug
« Reply #12 on: November 02, 2010, 02:24:14 PM »
Here let me write what my uncle wrote...


Ua tsaug mog,
Yeeb vim peb xyom cuab tsev mob tsev tuag tsev puas tsev ntsoog,
Koj xav neej xav tsav,
xav txheeb ncwm txhua,
Nyiaj txiag qas ntos tuaj pab peb nta dab nta qhua ntseg ntws puav tam ncej txawb.

Hnub qab nram lub tsis yog peb xyom cuab ua neej xws laug ces yuav nco ntsoov koj tus txiaj ntsha txiaj ntsig,
yog peb ua lub neej tsis xws luag ces yuav nrauj ncua koj tus txiaj ntsha txiaj ntsig rau nraum toj nraum dawm ua tshauv ua thee yaj no mog.



Thank You!
It is because our shochoua family of death and ruin,
you value our kinship,
you kindley give to help us resurrect our religious convictions firmly like a pillar.

In the Future,
If we live well like others, we will never forget your generosity.
IF we don't live like others, then your generosity will vanish like charcoal and ash.



What the Benefactor might say back:

Txhob ua tsaug mog!
Peb kev neej kev tsav los twb ua lub neej zoo tsis xws li luag,
muab yam tsis tsheej yam tsi tsis tsheej tsi,
twb muab tsis tau ib yam dab tsi tuaj teev tsis tau nej tsev xyom cuab lub kua muag es tsis txhob ua tsaug mog. Sawv!



There is no need to thank!
We relatives don't lead lives like others,
we cannot bring anything to help you.
We cannot help to hold back your tears,
so do not thank.
Please stand up!



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Re: xyom cuab: ua tsaug
« Reply #13 on: November 03, 2010, 10:00:23 PM »
xyom meem cab hawm lim txws,
ceeb txog koj xywv xywm,
txiv tuam meem cuab xov xwm
txiv tuam meem zeej
koj khiav li thwv tuaj rau duab plaj
rog peb tsev txoos npoj xyom cuab
ntas zeej txiv lub ntees tuag tag
koj khiav li yeev rau duas plaj tse
nrog peb tsev txoos npoj xyom cuab
nta zeej txiv lub ntees tag nyuag ntseg
koj tso li plhuav, koj tes dej tes
num ntxhov li  nhyos
tuaj pab peb tsev txoos npoj xyom cuab ntoj dab ntas qhua mus nto
koj tso li pluav koj tes dej tes num ntxhov li zawv
tuaj peb txoos npoj xyom cuab ntas peb txiv lub ntees mus fau tuag ntxaws

yog peb tsev xyom cuab txawj ua lub neej xw luag ces, yuav muaj kab phaj ntxuag xaws ncauj hub ntxuag lo los ua koj ib los tsaug lau
yeej vim peb tsev txoov npoj xyom cuab tsis txawj ua lub neej, tsis muaj ib kab phaj  ntxuag xaws  ncauj hub  ntxuag lo los ua koj ib los tsaug..los koj tus txiaj ntxha peb tsev txoov npoj xyom cuab yuav nqa koj tus txiaj ntsig peb tsev txoov npoj xyom cuab ris no laus



Credit to Slude with this...

one of the best Xyom cuab ua tsaug


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Re: xyom cuab: ua tsaug
« Reply #14 on: November 03, 2010, 10:31:12 PM »
if you need to hear it use this website: http://hmong.lomation.com/reader/index.php



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