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Re: Principals changing grades...thoughts?
« Reply #15 on: May 18, 2013, 10:13:50 AM »
and why would you not be awed at an all run by hmong school?  hmong people have alot of potential... and most are smarter then your average mekas dawb who is a superintendent too. 




The thing is, it just seems hmong's aren't that professional, to me anyways.  Yeah we can be professionals when we're working for other companies that's not hmong run, etc etc etc.  But dang, when a hmong person run their business, for example a school, I have my doubts. 

Just seem like they are just hmongs playing around.  Obviously, this is just my opinion, I'd love to go observe the workings and how it's run.  Maybe it'll change my mind about things. 

For example if hmongs were to open up a bank, I don't think i'd bankg there, I'd probably pick a established establishment.

Maybe after 100 years  hmong schools will have progress to where they are more distanced from the hmong community and are able to run their programs and agenda's objectively. 

I've had some very awesome public school teachers, I don't know how hmong teacher's would compare to them.  Not putting them down or anything.

This is just my opinion, I'm just rambling, please don't be offended folks!



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I went through all 15k posts and those 2 quotes I found were the only ones so I guess that would make it "everytime".  Feel free to go through all 15k posts and verify by quoting them all.  You need to quote them all to verifying prove "everytime".   Please verify that Im wrong.

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Re: Principals changing grades...thoughts?
« Reply #16 on: May 30, 2013, 11:22:25 AM »

The thing is, it just seems hmong's aren't that professional, to me anyways.  Yeah we can be professionals when we're working for other companies that's not hmong run, etc etc etc.  But dang, when a hmong person run their business, for example a school, I have my doubts. 

Just seem like they are just hmongs playing around.  Obviously, this is just my opinion, I'd love to go observe the workings and how it's run.  Maybe it'll change my mind about things. 

For example if hmongs were to open up a bank, I don't think i'd bankg there, I'd probably pick a established establishment.

Maybe after 100 years  hmong schools will have progress to where they are more distanced from the hmong community and are able to run their programs and agenda's objectively. 

I've had some very awesome public school teachers, I don't know how hmong teacher's would compare to them.  Not putting them down or anything.

This is just my opinion, I'm just rambling, please don't be offended folks!

i seen how mekas dawb ppl fun public schools... and yes.... they know how to find loop holes too. 

but what is important here is that we have hmong ppl managing hmong schools.  it's a start.  maybe it's not as good as you may have hoped but hmong have come pretty far now. 



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Re: Principals changing grades...thoughts?
« Reply #17 on: May 30, 2013, 11:23:10 AM »
all at the top are bent no matter what what race. 



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Re: Principals changing grades...thoughts?
« Reply #18 on: July 16, 2013, 04:38:58 PM »
I have know a few principals who would change the grades of students.  I was told this is unethical but still legal.  Their motive is simple.  They do not want any of their students held back.  This will reflect poorly on the school and may affect their state funds.

1) Do you believe that students should be held back if they are not making the grades?  What if that is you or if you have kids, what if that is your child.  Do you want to be in the same grade as your younger sibling?

2) Do you think it's OK for principals to change grades.  Money trumps everything?

With standardized testing, grades matter less and less. That being said, extensive longitudinal studies show that after the third grade, students being held back will likely still never catch up to their peers. The key is to figure out the root cause and help the student succeed through a different method. Many states have a tiered system of support however general Ed  teachers have not been adequately trained to differentiate for all students. Universal Design is a great instructional concept but requires teachers to think completely different about what it means to educate.

Getting back to your question, I've never heard of a school recieving more state funding because of grades. Grades in itself is too subjective hence standardized testing. This year, 21 states have signed on to pilot the new PARCC assessments to level the educational expectations across all states.

Also, legally no principal can retain a student without the agreement of the parent.



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