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Title: Focus on her initial interest
Post by: Gracified23 on August 05, 2022, 09:30:10 PM
You’re not supposed to work hard if a woman is genuinely interested in you.

If you have to work hard for it then women probably didn’t have high interest.

If a girl like you, she will make it easy for you to meet up. If she’s not interested, she won’t care.

Low interest women are generally not going to sleep with you.

Most of my successful dates came from women messaging me first. 
Title: Re: Focus on her initial interest
Post by: Reporter on August 05, 2022, 09:51:32 PM
Yeah.

I agree so.

That's why I don't chase.
Title: Re: Focus on her initial interest
Post by: Visualmon on August 06, 2022, 12:25:36 AM
Ne, ne, ne kuv twb hais tsis txhob mus caum lawm nes.  ;D
Title: Re: Focus on her initial interest
Post by: Visualmon on August 06, 2022, 12:28:46 AM
Watch til the end...

https://www.instagram.com/reel/Cf_MHlmlrh2/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link (https://www.instagram.com/reel/Cf_MHlmlrh2/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link)

Just a joke.  ;D
Title: Re: Focus on her initial interest
Post by: Gracified23 on August 06, 2022, 01:35:19 AM
Yeah.

I agree so.

That's why I don't chase.

Women will not chase you if they don’t feel some sort of attachment to you. If that’s not happening, they won’t chase you.

Dudes think that they can use game to get women to chase them by not showing any interest or not validating the chick or compliment her looks. Truth be told: If a girl don’t like you, if a girl isn’t attach to you, she won’t care and she’s not going to chase anything lol.
Title: Re: Focus on her initial interest
Post by: Reporter on August 06, 2022, 10:41:30 AM
Women will not chase you if they don’t feel some sort of attachment to you. If that’s not happening, they won’t chase you.

Dudes think that they can use game to get women to chase them by not showing any interest or not validating the chick or compliment her looks. Truth be told: If a girl don’t like you, if a girl isn’t attach to you, she won’t care and she’s not going to chase anything lol.

Deep down, that's what it comes to.

Title: Re: Focus on her initial interest
Post by: Reporter on August 06, 2022, 10:42:56 AM
Ne, ne, ne kuv twb hais tsis txhob mus caum lawm nes.  ;D

Many women have been won by chasing though. They want to see an honest interest among their various interests. Then if those other interests fall off, look who's convenient? Answer: the chaser.
Title: Re: Focus on her initial interest
Post by: Gracified23 on August 06, 2022, 08:41:36 PM
Many women have been won by chasing though. They want to see an honest interest among their various interests. Then if those other interests fall off, look who's convenient? Answer: the chaser.

The man who chases is a simp and she’s obviously not interested in him lmao.
Title: Re: Focus on her initial interest
Post by: Visualmon on August 07, 2022, 01:49:32 AM
Is this what y'all talking about?  ;D

https://www.instagram.com/tv/CdAF34hJ2Ua/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link (https://www.instagram.com/tv/CdAF34hJ2Ua/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link)
Title: Re: Focus on her initial interest
Post by: Gracified23 on August 07, 2022, 03:35:06 AM
Is this what y'all talking about?  ;D

https://www.instagram.com/tv/CdAF34hJ2Ua/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link (https://www.instagram.com/tv/CdAF34hJ2Ua/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link)

Not really because she gave him a choosing signal and made it quite evident she was interested in him.

If she didn’t give him choosing signals and he approached her it will always lead to a rejection lol

Approaching a woman first is already setting yourself up for disappointment, no choosing signal= no approach.

Title: Re: Focus on her initial interest
Post by: Reporter on August 07, 2022, 12:11:08 PM
The man who chases is a simp and she’s obviously not interested in him lmao.

You seem to be thinking that the winner is the loser. lol

Two possibilities: 1. his persistence wins, or 2. she doesn't know herself yet until all sources have been exhausted.

Title: Re: Focus on her initial interest
Post by: Believe_N_Me on August 15, 2022, 11:01:58 AM
What is the definition of "chasing" according to men?

The first to initiate contact?

The first to initiate compliments?

Dating is too hard.  :-\


Title: Re: Focus on her initial interest
Post by: Believe_N_Me on August 15, 2022, 12:26:08 PM
Then I am a fool.  :'(

I have already told him that I love him, and not just once but everyday.

In the past, I was never the type to openly share how I really felt to the one that I adore. I don't want to make that mistake again. I am willing to take the risk and be seen as a fool, rather than regret not telling him just how much I love him.

Love has no room for mind games.

If you love someone then just love them purely, honestly, and sincerely.

Don't worry too much about who is doing or not doing.
Title: Re: Focus on her initial interest
Post by: DuMa on August 15, 2022, 01:23:11 PM
You’re not supposed to work hard if a woman is genuinely interested in you.

If you have to work hard for it then women probably didn’t have high interest.

If a girl like you, she will make it easy for you to meet up. If she’s not interested, she won’t care.

Low interest women are generally not going to sleep with you.

Most of my successful dates came from women messaging me first.

And most of your successful dates are from sugar dating apps.  When you have a profile on there, like duh, they will hit you up because you created jobs opportunity for them.  Hit you up or not getting payed.  Nothing special about your success when it comes to women and dating. 

Please don't run around here and say that you are special just because payed hoez are hitting you up.   :2funny:

 
Title: Re: Focus on her initial interest
Post by: Gracified23 on August 15, 2022, 03:06:19 PM
And most of your successful dates are from sugar dating apps.  When you have a profile on there, like duh, they will hit you up because you created jobs opportunity for them.  Hit you up or not getting payed.  Nothing special about your success when it comes to women and dating. 

Please don't run around here and say that you are special just because payed hoez are hitting you up.   :2funny:

A lot of men get caught up on game thinking women are going to sleep with them. The fact is unless these men bring value, these women are not opening their legs to these dudes. She only sleeping with men she getting something in return, and  game is not enough of an exchange for them give their bodies to these non-select dudes.

Game is manipulation. You’re basically trying to get something that you can’t afford for free. You’re trying to get a woman  when you have zero value and options, trying to get a woman that’s not attracted to you nor fascinated with your life. You can deny it but this is the truth, I used to work in a store where customers try to manipulate there way to get a item they can’t afford.
Title: Re: Focus on her initial interest
Post by: Gracified23 on August 15, 2022, 03:15:40 PM
Once you are mature enough you will understand that relationships are mutual beneficial. You got to have more than just game. Women want a guy that can give them excitement and experience. A broke unattractive dude with game can’t do that. He haves no options and he have a boring life and focus on getting women for free watching how to seduce a woman videos lol.
Title: Re: Focus on her initial interest
Post by: Reporter on August 15, 2022, 04:50:28 PM
Once you are mature enough you will understand that relationships are mutual beneficial. You got to have more than just game. Women want a guy that can give them excitement and experience. A broke unattractive dude with game can’t do that. He haves no options and he have a boring life and focus on getting women for free watching how to seduce a woman videos lol.

Why must it be all the man's responsibility? Why don't the women take responsibiliti es, too? They are mutually benefiting from the relationship. They have to excite us! They have to attract us! Etc.
Title: Re: Focus on her initial interest
Post by: Gracified23 on August 15, 2022, 05:58:37 PM
Why must it be all the man's responsibility? Why don't the women take responsibiliti es, too? They are mutually benefiting from the relationship. They have to excite us! They have to attract us! Etc.

Well like I already said… You’re either preselected by women or not and if you have to go out your way to find one and you have to put in a lot of time and energy for her to deal with you then chances are she’s not attracted and you’ve already lost. Women chase high value male. But guys who think a they have game, will blame it on their game. They will always secretly thinking that it has to be them doing something wrong which is leading them to get rejected.

Game don’t make men high value lol.
Title: Re: Focus on her initial interest
Post by: Reporter on August 15, 2022, 06:43:04 PM
I believe in efforts. I don't think everything comes naturally.
Title: Re: Focus on her initial interest
Post by: NtsesHnub on August 15, 2022, 08:09:34 PM
Her interests are your resources which is money. 
Title: Re: Focus on her initial interest
Post by: Gracified23 on August 15, 2022, 09:45:43 PM
I believe in efforts. I don't think everything comes naturally.

It’s difficult to give an answer lol. But I’ll try to be honest with you as much as I can. I don’t chase in the sugar bowl. I’m providing support and she needs to be active and put in some effort into our dates like reaching out first “hey let’s meet this week” or “I had such a good time. Let’s meet again next week”. Things like that will make me feel appreciated. Is she silent between meets? Does she initiate text? If she doesn’t put in the effort then it’s not going to work.

Anyway, I like to be upfront. Things like that needs to be discussed before we even come to terms.


Title: Re: Focus on her initial interest
Post by: Gracified23 on August 15, 2022, 09:46:26 PM
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Title: Re: Focus on her initial interest
Post by: Gracified23 on August 15, 2022, 10:02:05 PM
Then I am a fool.  :'(

I have already told him that I love him, and not just once but everyday.

In the past, I was never the type to openly share how I really felt to the one that I adore. I don't want to make that mistake again. I am willing to take the risk and be seen as a fool, rather than regret not telling him just how much I love him.

Love has no room for mind games.

If you love someone then just love them purely, honestly, and sincerely.

Don't worry too much about who is doing or not doing.

Agree. That’s why I like to be upfront about my intentions. This isn’t regular dating where people don’t know what they want and you kind of have to  go along for weeks or even months just to find out the two of you aren’t on the same page. It’s a waste of time and resources and the sex isn’t even guarantee. Sugar dating cuts through the games and both are honest. Now I’m not saying every people are honest. Just like normal dating there are bad ones out there too.  But you’ll know when you see a good one.
Title: Re: Focus on her initial interest
Post by: Gracified23 on August 16, 2022, 01:06:45 AM
Her interests are your resources which is money.

If she’s asking for money upfront before meeting it’s most likely a scam. Real babies doesn’t do that. People that do that has no intention of meeting up with you. And if you’re legit sugar daddy you would have no problem with allowance. Only regular guys have this problem because they’re trying to get it for free.
Title: Re: Focus on her initial interest
Post by: Believe_N_Me on September 05, 2022, 11:41:42 AM
What is excitement according to the men? If it's a woman who keeps an active social schedule, such as frequent outings with family, female friends and/or recreational hobbies then I'm done for.   :-\

I'm a real homebody and my hobbies are usually quiet activities. Walking, reading, writing, drawing, watching documentaries, listening to debates, solving puzzles, and storyboarding - things of that nature. I'm not opposed to enjoying physical activities: horseback riding, hiking, camping, tubing, biking, scootering, etc. I love all those things, too, but I just don't do them as regularly as the other stuff.

As I get older, I've become very cooperative and just want to get along for the sake of peace. That means I don't frequently suggest or invite things to do with my partner as I used to, but it doesn't mean I've lost feelings or attraction. We can peacefully exist in our own corner of the house and still feel comforted to know that commitment hasn't diminished. But reading the posts from men on here gives me some anxiety. It feels like many of you want to be entertained 24/7 by your woman in order to maintain your attraction towards her. Otherwise it's "good-bye". I think when you're in the dating or bf/gf stage then it is important (almost vital) to entertain the other person. Heck, I'd want to hear from my man all the time, too, in order to feel secure about his feelings for me. But once in a marriage, you know that you have true love when you don't have to talk to each other every minute of the day YET feel so in love and giddy the moment you do converse and spend time together.
Title: Re: Focus on her initial interest
Post by: Gracified23 on September 07, 2022, 01:01:46 AM
What is excitement according to the men? If it's a woman who keeps an active social schedule, such as frequent outings with family, female friends and/or recreational hobbies then I'm done for.   :-\

I'm a real homebody and my hobbies are usually quiet activities. Walking, reading, writing, drawing, watching documentaries, listening to debates, solving puzzles, and storyboarding - things of that nature. I'm not opposed to enjoying physical activities: horseback riding, hiking, camping, tubing, biking, scootering, etc. I love all those things, too, but I just don't do them as regularly as the other stuff.

As I get older, I've become very cooperative and just want to get along for the sake of peace. That means I don't frequently suggest or invite things to do with my partner as I used to, but it doesn't mean I've lost feelings or attraction. We can peacefully exist in our own corner of the house and still feel comforted to know that commitment hasn't diminished. But reading the posts from men on here gives me some anxiety. It feels like many of you want to be entertained 24/7 by your woman in order to maintain your attraction towards her. Otherwise it's "good-bye". I think when you're in the dating or bf/gf stage then it is important (almost vital) to entertain the other person. Heck, I'd want to hear from my man all the time, too, in order to feel secure about his feelings for me. But once in a marriage, you know that you have true love when you don't have to talk to each other every minute of the day YET feel so in love and giddy the moment you do converse and spend time together.

Women who are less conventional attractive (5s and 6s are in less demand compare to 8s, 9s and 10s) across the board. In sugar, because I am putting out cash, I am more picky and women are now have to reach out where tables are turned. I don’t chase them if I am financially supporting them. The older and less attractive/overweight a woman is, the harder to find a sugar daddy.

Title: Re: Focus on her initial interest
Post by: Believe_N_Me on September 07, 2022, 03:14:22 PM
What you're doing proves my point about pretty women. Once they allow a man to use them for their looks then they become a dime a dozen. It might only be worth it if the man is filthy rich, but even Hugh Hefner's three wives divorced him later.

I prefer that the man falls in love with me first and my physical appearance is just a bonus. Again, this is why I don't show my picture before the guy knows me. If he feels doubtful about what I might look like then that is his loss.
Title: Re: Focus on her initial interest
Post by: Gracified23 on September 07, 2022, 08:03:41 PM
What you're doing proves my point about pretty women. Once they allow a man to use them for their looks then they become a dime a dozen. It might only be worth it if the man is filthy rich, but even Hugh Hefner's three wives divorced him later.

I prefer that the man falls in love with me first and my physical appearance is just a bonus. Again, this is why I don't show my picture before the guy knows me. If he feels doubtful about what I might look like then that is his loss.

I can date average looking women for free. I’m way more pickier when money is involved. 
Title: Re: Focus on her initial interest
Post by: Gracified23 on September 07, 2022, 11:10:56 PM
What you're doing proves my point about pretty women. Once they allow a man to use them for their looks then they become a dime a dozen. It might only be worth it if the man is filthy rich, but even Hugh Hefner's three wives divorced him later.

I prefer that the man falls in love with me first and my physical appearance is just a bonus. Again, this is why I don't show my picture before the guy knows me. If he feels doubtful about what I might look like then that is his loss.

Sugar standards are different. Women date men because they are successful/have stability. Men wouldn’t date women if they aren’t attractive. In normal dating, that may also still be true. People still has to find each other attractive. In sugar, I still want the girl to find me attractive. Money should be extra. She shouldn’t sugar out of desperation.
Title: Re: Focus on her initial interest
Post by: DuMa on September 17, 2022, 12:41:14 PM
Sugar standards are different. Women date men because they are successful/have stability. Men wouldn’t date women if they aren’t attractive. In normal dating, that may also still be true. People still has to find each other attractive. In sugar, I still want the girl to find me attractive. Money should be extra. She shouldn’t sugar out of desperation.

If she finds you attractive, she wouldn't want a dime out of you.  You don't have to pay her for anything. 

Sugar relationship is a dependency.  IF it is not payed, she wouldn't need you.  Who here works for free?   O0

You payed for a fake relationship.  Bravo, like watching a movie, great acting job.  You got played and you don't even know it.  Then again, you payed for that emotional support, one that you can not get but must be bought. 
Title: Re: Focus on her initial interest
Post by: DuMa on September 17, 2022, 12:42:06 PM
I can date average looking women for free. I’m way more pickier when money is involved.

You a charcoal looking thing and you asking for a diamond?    :2funny:
Title: Re: Focus on her initial interest
Post by: DuMa on September 17, 2022, 12:54:48 PM
A lot of men get caught up on game thinking women are going to sleep with them. The fact is unless these men bring value, these women are not opening their legs to these dudes. She only sleeping with men she getting something in return, and  game is not enough of an exchange for them give their bodies to these non-select dudes.

Game is manipulation. You’re basically trying to get something that you can’t afford for free. You’re trying to get a woman  when you have zero value and options, trying to get a woman that’s not attracted to you nor fascinated with your life. You can deny it but this is the truth, I used to work in a store where customers try to manipulate there way to get a item they can’t afford.

There are plenty of definitions of game. 

What you are doing as a SD/SB relationship is also a game.  All that is a fantasy as both sides are benefiting from one another.  Fake love, fake everything and nothing real about it.  It feels real to you because you are delusional. 

Once again, the game is subjective to how you play it.  A cheater may started out as not looking for anything but in it for the booty.  A kaydoo going around getting plenty women pregnant because that's his game like nick cannon.  A broke college student is playing the field because he's also hungry so he must eat too.  Fake it till they make it they say. 

My game doesn't correspond to you and your game surely doesn't do anything for me either.  The game, whether you lie, cheat, steal or payed is still what it is, still a game.  Guys like andrew tates already knew the danger about these women who "played or preyed" on men thus why he's advocating the reverse negative of it.  I'm not mad at them though.   O0
Title: Re: Focus on her initial interest
Post by: Gracified23 on September 17, 2022, 02:43:30 PM
If she finds you attractive, she wouldn't want a dime out of you.  You don't have to pay her for anything.

Sugar relationship is a dependency.  IF it is not payed, she wouldn't need you.  Who here works for free?   O0

Take away sex and most men would leave in a heartbeat. I saw a video where a black man took a black woman out to dinner and she refused to go home with him or refused to give him sex and he didn’t pick up the tab or he made her split the bill.

There are still some women that expect the man to provide when dating them. Some women will not date a guy who expects them to go 50/50.

Some women are just looking to date guys who are more establish and well off and could provide for them. Guys who aren’t going to complain about taking her out and do nice thing for them.

You payed for a fake relationship.  Bravo, like watching a movie, great acting job.  You got played and you don't even know it.  Then again, you payed for that emotional support, one that you can not get but must be bought.

Ask anyone who is married and tell them if money is a part in their relationship, whether it is child support or helping each other getting out of debt. It might not be true love to you, but it doesn’t mean she don’t enjoy our time and that feelings aren’t real. They certainly are real. Lol.

In a normal relationship, she may be with you for the emotional support but what happens to a guy that can’t give her the emotional support? She will dump him quick too because he lack the emotional support. Why would women date a guy that can’t support her?

If your job provides you with career growth and it stops, you would leave the job to find a new better job. Also if the money stop, so does the relationship. That shit apply to every relationship.

Having a fake relationship means someone was one sided and lying in order to stay like cheating or changing the terms  to fit one sided unequally. It’s not fake if both partner held their end of the terms.