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Title: Your thoughts on all these police shooting of black peoples...
Post by: hmgROCK on April 28, 2021, 10:35:12 AM
Seems like every week
Some black person is gun down

Where is your stance on this issue???
Title: Re: Your thoughts on all these police shooting of black peoples...
Post by: Reporter on April 28, 2021, 10:39:52 AM
Reform is needed.
Title: Re: Your thoughts on all these police shooting of black peoples...
Post by: Dok_Champa on April 28, 2021, 10:42:02 AM
I was talking to a person who is in the criminal justice and I said, how come police don't shoot to injure but shoot to kill... Many instance they (police) could have injure a person to protect themselves, say shoot in the leg so the person stop running or some place less deadly.  He said in their training, they shoot to kill to avoid complications later on and for suspects w/ a longgg record, one they (police) feel confident will not give them a problem, they can choose to shoot to injure...

Not sure how true the info is... but

Yes a reform is needed.
Title: Re: Your thoughts on all these police shooting of black peoples...
Post by: hmgROCK on April 28, 2021, 10:47:40 AM
I was talking to a person who is in the criminal justice and I said, how come police don't shoot to injure but shoot to kill... Many instance they (police) could have injure a person to protect themselves, say shoot in the leg so the person stop running or some place less deadly.  He said in their training, they shoot to kill to avoid complications later on and for suspects w/ a longgg record, one they (police) feel confident will not give them a problem, they can choose to shoot to injure...

Not sure how true the info is... but

Yes a reform is needed.

I was taught in hunting safely class and carry
To aim center mass
To kill

This is usually right in the middle of the chest
Title: Re: Your thoughts on all these police shooting of black peoples...
Post by: ProudLao on April 28, 2021, 12:47:34 PM
Follow the rules and you won’t be shot by officers keeping the peace.

I’m more concern with blacks hating on our elderly.
Title: Re: Your thoughts on all these police shooting of black peoples...
Post by: lexicon on April 28, 2021, 01:02:37 PM
Follow the rules and you won’t be shot by officers keeping the peace.

I’m more concern with blacks hating on our elderly.

I gotta play the Devil's Advocate here. You're using an old argument. Regardless of color or ethnicity, don't let the actions of a few taint your pov. Innocent people are killed by law enforcement officers.

Moving forward;

Did you show the same concern when Hmong/Asian families were targeted by Hmong/Asian gangs (home invasion robberies)?
Do you show the same concern about Hmong/Asian husbands killing their wives?

If we were to condemn a group of people based off what we see/hear/read about, then as a Hmong man I'm screwed because we're a bunch of wife-beating-wife-murderers who can't take rejection right?


Title: Re: Your thoughts on all these police shooting of black peoples...y
Post by: hmgROCK on April 28, 2021, 02:02:40 PM
Follow the rules and you won’t be shot by officers keeping the peace.

I’m more concern with blacks hating on our elderly.

I don’t know, dog
They, the police, went to the wrong house in the middle of the night
 Louisville


Plus the guy they were after is already in jail :2funny: :2funny: :2funny:

BIG BRAIN RIGHT THERE
Title: Re: Your thoughts on all these police shooting of black peoples...
Post by: Mr_Mechanic on April 28, 2021, 02:06:34 PM
you probably wouldn't like my honest opinion.
Title: Re: Your thoughts on all these police shooting of black peoples...
Post by: hmgROCK on April 28, 2021, 02:12:38 PM
you probably wouldn't like my honest opinion.

Don’t hide your emotions all inside, bro
Let it all out
Let it be known
Title: Re: Your thoughts on all these police shooting of black peoples...
Post by: DuMa on April 28, 2021, 02:20:14 PM
If yall prejudice against black people...

yall be thinking..  "it is just another dumb and dead nigga" 

Title: Re: Your thoughts on all these police shooting of black peoples...
Post by: ProudLao on April 28, 2021, 05:47:44 PM
I gotta play the Devil's Advocate here. You're using an old argument. Regardless of color or ethnicity, don't let the actions of a few taint your pov. Innocent people are killed by law enforcement officers.

Moving forward;

Did you show the same concern when Hmong/Asian families were targeted by Hmong/Asian gangs (home invasion robberies)?
Do you show the same concern about Hmong/Asian husbands killing their wives?

If we were to condemn a group of people based off what we see/hear/read about, then as a Hmong man I'm screwed because we're a bunch of wife-beating-wife-murderers who can't take rejection right?

Yes, I definitely show the same concerns when anything of that nature occurring.

I’m not for cops shooting just because either. There’s always the other side of the story.

We only see when is being reported. I’ll leave that for our justice system.
Title: Re: Your thoughts on all these police shooting of black peoples...
Post by: Visualmon on April 29, 2021, 01:57:05 AM
Every single time I wanna say anything obvious, my laptop crashes. Hmmm seems like the devil don't want me to reveal the dirty truth about the police department. Wasted 5 minutes of my time writing good sh!ets.
Title: Re: Your thoughts on all these police shooting of black peoples...
Post by: Dok_Champa on April 29, 2021, 08:26:14 AM
I think the police need to build trust with the African American communities.  I can kind of sense that  when African-Americans are stopped/pulled over by police, there's a sense of fear....fear of getting killed so they do the very thing that get them killed:  run away, drives away, talk back/provoke officers (fight back mentality), etc... When the best thing to do is stay calm, follow directions, and let it go from there.

 
Title: Re: Your thoughts on all these police shooting of black peoples...
Post by: YAX on April 29, 2021, 08:37:52 AM
I think we should hire more liberal cops and less conservative cops.  Maybe cops need to go to 4 years university as psychology majors or something.
Title: Re: Your thoughts on all these police shooting of black peoples...
Post by: hmgROCK on April 29, 2021, 09:37:03 AM
You guys see that cop who use the gun, instead of the taser video???

Damnnnn

Lack of training right there
Title: Re: Your thoughts on all these police shooting of black peoples...
Post by: Reporter on April 29, 2021, 10:30:04 AM
I realize a lot of cops don't know the integrity of what policing means. Reform will straighten them out to a large extent.

There will be loopholes here and there, but the reform will certainly help a lot of cops do their jobs more smoothly and better instead of just taking a gun
into the street and elsewhere to shoot.

Reform is needed.
Title: Re: Your thoughts on all these police shooting of black peoples...
Post by: lexicon on April 29, 2021, 10:41:09 AM
I think we should hire more liberal cops and less conservative cops.  Maybe cops need to go to 4 years university as psychology majors or something.

Beyond the rhetoric, our standards for hire are extremely low compared to other countries;

https://www.cfr.org/backgrounder/how-police-compare-different-democracies (https://www.cfr.org/backgrounder/how-police-compare-different-democracies)
Title: Re: Your thoughts on all these police shooting of black peoples...
Post by: hmgROCK on April 29, 2021, 11:38:49 AM
You can’t mistake a glock for a taser
The grips is different and ergonomic is all different

LACK OF TRAINING
Title: Re: Your thoughts on all these police shooting of black peoples...
Post by: hmgROCK on May 05, 2021, 02:31:17 PM
Can we also address why black folks running from the police???
Alot of these video
After being caught, they still try to run away