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General Category => Hmong Culture & History => Wedding Rituals & Customs => Topic started by: kenx on May 17, 2009, 03:16:24 PM

Title: Bride Head Price & Lesbians
Post by: kenx on May 17, 2009, 03:16:24 PM
 ;D

So you have two Hmong lesbians, madly in love with one another.  They've known each other since high school and went to the prom together in a big group date with their loser boyfriends at the time, but both grew up and out of the whole group of high school friends.  Somehow, they remained in touch even though they lived on opposite sides of the country working their professional careers.  One is a marketing executive at a mid-sized engineering firm, and the other is the head chef at a five star hotel.  Suffice to say, they had a chance encounter at the Fresno New Year of 2009 and realized, upon first seeing each other in years, that all those emails, IM's, and txt messages back and forth these 8 years have been for a good reason --- they're both madly in love with one another.

After spending the next two years seeing each other every month or so and stay connected online and by telephone, they decide to get married.  Herein, however, lies the problem.  According to the culture, who, then, would be responsible for the bride head price and how much is it for?  And what last name will they choose?
Title: Re: Bride Head Price & Lesbians
Post by: Ecaloza on May 19, 2009, 10:58:36 PM
;D

So you have two Hmong lesbians, madly in love with one another.  They've known each other since high school and went to the prom together in a big group date with their loser boyfriends at the time, but both grew up and out of the whole group of high school friends.  Somehow, they remained in touch even though they lived on opposite sides of the country working their professional careers.  One is a marketing executive at a mid-sized engineering firm, and the other is the head chef at a five star hotel.  Suffice to say, they had a chance encounter at the Fresno New Year of 2009 and realized, upon first seeing each other in years, that all those emails, IM's, and txt messages back and forth these 8 years have been for a good reason --- they're both madly in love with one another.

After spending the next two years seeing each other every month or so and stay connected online and by telephone, they decide to get married.  Herein, however, lies the problem.  According to the culture, who, then, would be responsible for the bride head price and how much is it for?  And what last name will they choose?

"According to culture" is grossly incorrect, this marriage is the furthest from Hmong culture.  I say throw culture out the window and just have an amazing celebration.  Best of luck to them.  :)  Both sets of parents should also look beyond gender lines and be happy that their daughters have found someone loving and supportive to spend the rest of their lives with. 
Title: Re: Bride Head Price & Lesbians
Post by: SYNner on May 20, 2009, 09:31:38 AM
According to the culture, we would have taken these two and fed them to the lions already.

;D

So you have two Hmong lesbians, madly in love with one another.  They've known each other since high school and went to the prom together in a big group date with their loser boyfriends at the time, but both grew up and out of the whole group of high school friends.  Somehow, they remained in touch even though they lived on opposite sides of the country working their professional careers.  One is a marketing executive at a mid-sized engineering firm, and the other is the head chef at a five star hotel.  Suffice to say, they had a chance encounter at the Fresno New Year of 2009 and realized, upon first seeing each other in years, that all those emails, IM's, and txt messages back and forth these 8 years have been for a good reason --- they're both madly in love with one another.

After spending the next two years seeing each other every month or so and stay connected online and by telephone, they decide to get married.  Herein, however, lies the problem.  According to the culture, who, then, would be responsible for the bride head price and how much is it for?  And what last name will they choose?
Title: Re: Bride Head Price & Lesbians
Post by: Petals on May 20, 2009, 09:38:45 AM
oh gosh- just have an american wedding- no dowry or bride price because they are both females lolz..might as well put that money towards their wedding lolz..so will both wear a wedding dress or one is more manly than the other?  ??? ::) :D
Title: Re: Bride Head Price & Lesbians
Post by: xob on May 21, 2009, 02:38:13 PM
;D

So you have two Hmong lesbians, madly in love with one another.  They've known each other since high school and went to the prom together in a big group date with their loser boyfriends at the time, but both grew up and out of the whole group of high school friends.  Somehow, they remained in touch even though they lived on opposite sides of the country working their professional careers.  One is a marketing executive at a mid-sized engineering firm, and the other is the head chef at a five star hotel.  Suffice to say, they had a chance encounter at the Fresno New Year of 2009 and realized, upon first seeing each other in years, that all those emails, IM's, and txt messages back and forth these 8 years have been for a good reason --- they're both madly in love with one another.

After spending the next two years seeing each other every month or so and stay connected online and by telephone, they decide to get married.  Herein, however, lies the problem.  According to the culture, who, then, would be responsible for the bride head price and how much is it for?  And what last name will they choose?

This is not a marriage in Hmong culture. 

So, no bride price.
Title: Re: Bride Head Price & Lesbians
Post by: slude on May 21, 2009, 04:20:28 PM
the result is the same with a hmong girl and a black guy. no dowry.

or

both moms "yog kuv yug, mob kuv plab, kuv yuav sau $5000". then they pay each other $5000. ;D




Title: Re: Bride Head Price & Lesbians
Post by: Toumeng on June 30, 2009, 06:25:39 PM
According to the culture, we would have taken these two and fed them to the lions already.


This might be the best answer if you based it on culture.  ;D
Title: Re: Bride Head Price & Lesbians
Post by: Mizsta_EZ on July 18, 2009, 10:47:53 PM
They'd be invited to go camping with the elders...
Title: Re: Bride Head Price & Lesbians
Post by: Gatorade_Guy on July 27, 2009, 12:13:15 PM
this just added to our culture: the one with shorter hair, is the one responsible for the bride price.
Title: Re: Bride Head Price & Lesbians
Post by: chidorix0x on July 27, 2009, 07:42:30 PM
Ob tog niam txiv txaj txaj muag ces nyob twj ywm xwb. Zais pog kom teb chaws txhob paub kiag li. Ua tus ruam tsis paub.  ;D
Title: Re: Bride Head Price & Lesbians
Post by: ThePhatSista on August 30, 2009, 04:53:56 AM
kuv HAHAHAHA xwb this is a freakin joke right?
Title: Re: Bride Head Price & Lesbians
Post by: NceegVaj on October 08, 2009, 10:59:56 AM
You know what they did in Long Tieng don't you?

Gen. Vang Pao would have them loaded up on a propeller airplane (dav hlau kab tsawb), fly to a nowhere forest and push them out of the plane-->this time no parachute attached.

How's that for Hmong culture?

Hey, it's true at least for the case of Vang trying to marry a Vang.
Title: Re: Bride Head Price & Lesbians
Post by: tengri_gim on February 07, 2010, 10:51:43 PM
This question doesnt even dignify a response.  Notice how they date losers of the opposite sex but "discover" that they are "madly in love" with each other after 8 years of living 3000 miles from each other.  The simple question is gays cant get married according to traditional guidelines.  This is how it is everywhere else in the world.  Marriages are one of the last universal traditions but no where in there is something about two sexually confused idiots trying to get validation for their lifestyles by pretending they are normal.  Find two rich gay guys and marry them the traditional way.  The fact that these people cant even pretend to be normal tells you something.  Gay is an affliction like mental retardation and you dont tell a mental or physical midget they can one day go through the motions and pretend to be normal and no one is going to say anything about it and its a given that you get a special pass and everyone extends you some kind of immunity.  Let me guess your "friends" already have a few guys picked out to be potential sperm donors.  They just have to work up the nerve to ask them if they want to jerk off into a turkey baster.  Or better yet.  They have it narrowed down to some abandoned girl baby from china or south america for some fuzzy haired mulatto street kid.  Muahahahahaha.  OMG man are you for real.

Play them this old song about pilots of the chocolate runway but I think you get they will get the underlying message:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pExpUT1xxT4

Title: Re: Bride Head Price & Lesbians
Post by: Mogee on February 26, 2010, 11:58:47 AM
Gay marriage is not yet an acceptable form of marriage in our community, but if it were...

... I imagine the bride price would have to be paid by which ever clan the couple goes to become a part of.

It is true that even in heterosexual marriages, a price can be paid where the groom goes to become a part of the bride's family.  This is not unheard of.

Similarly, if the couple can decide between the two of them, which clan they will be more a part of, then that will answer the question of who needs to pay.  It really doesn't even have to be a matter of which clan they will spend more time with, or stuff like that, but more a matter of responsibiliti es.  For example, which clan will handle responsibiliti es when one of their kids get married, or which clan will handle responsibiliti es when one of them dies.  That kind of stuff needs to be hashed out and agreed on, otherwise, it isn't a marriage.
Title: Re: Bride Head Price & Lesbians
Post by: i_am_sam on February 26, 2010, 12:41:56 PM
It ain't going to happen and will never be accepted. Enough said...


Gay marriage is not yet an acceptable form of marriage in our community, but if it were...

... I imagine the bride price would have to be paid by which ever clan the couple goes to become a part of.

It is true that even in heterosexual marriages, a price can be paid where the groom goes to become a part of the bride's family.  This is not unheard of.

Similarly, if the couple can decide between the two of them, which clan they will be more a part of, then that will answer the question of who needs to pay.  It really doesn't even have to be a matter of which clan they will spend more time with, or stuff like that, but more a matter of responsibiliti es.  For example, which clan will handle responsibiliti es when one of their kids get married, or which clan will handle responsibiliti es when one of them dies.  That kind of stuff needs to be hashed out and agreed on, otherwise, it isn't a marriage.
Title: Re: Bride Head Price & Lesbians
Post by: beester on May 11, 2010, 11:28:42 AM
Most elders will just dismiss it and/or disown them, thus negating all responsibiliti es for them. There will come a day when we except people for who they are and not despise them for what they are.
Title: Re: Bride Head Price & Lesbians
Post by: MSV on August 01, 2010, 11:49:48 PM
the result is the same with a hmong girl and a black guy. no dowry.

or

both moms "yog kuv yug, mob kuv plab, kuv yuav sau $5000". then they pay each other $5000. ;D


Off topic: Damn, peb saib kaydoo nqis npaum ntawd los?  :-\

If it really went down like option two there, it's gonna equal zero at the end. Might as well save the trouble and just let the two have a nice wedding ceremony xwb mas.
Title: Re: Bride Head Price & Lesbians
Post by: NtxheeYeesVaj on August 23, 2010, 06:49:42 PM
I personally don't believe in homosexual relationships, but I've got to admit...gay men are by far the nicest people on earth! as for lesbians, i just can't stand the dikes. They act, dress, and even try to walk and talk like men, but they can never take the place of a real man. I knew a few people who were straight, had kids, dated people of the opposite sex then years later when I met them again, they were with someone of the same sex. I honestly don't understand how people can go from straight to gay. I guess I can kind of understand from a woman's perspective, especially when she's been used and abused in all her relationships. After all, finding love and comfort in another woman would probably be better knowing that women have the same understanding and they'll understand you better. Still it doesn't justify or make it okay for women to become lesbians. However, for a man to become gay...now, I can't understand that!

My opinion is this...if we allow gay marriages then someday down the line, some weird idiot is going to think that it's okay to marry their own pet. Then we'll have the same debate again whether to allow them to marry an animal or what not. It's sickening enough that they already have human and animal porns...soon someone will say, "If the world can accept gay marriages then they'll learn to accept that it's okay for a master/owner to marry their own pet or animal." I think marriage is very sacred, although most people nowadays probably don't agree with me, but I believe that marriage is between a man and a woman. A man and another man cannot create a child nor can a woman and a woman. It takes a man and a woman to create another life.

I will never understand a homosexual person's lifestyle...wh y they chose to be that way, but seriously ladies...if you're just gonna use vibrators and dildos each other, why not stick to the real thing?! Then again, some men just don't have what it takes, but to answer the question...I'd say they can pay their own parents.
Title: Re: Bride Head Price & Lesbians
Post by: Qau on September 29, 2010, 02:49:28 PM
Too funny..Lets just feed them to the lions.  ;D
Title: Re: Bride Head Price & Lesbians
Post by: Qau on September 29, 2010, 02:50:28 PM
NtxheeYeesVaj ...they say real men take it in the azz. ;D
Title: Re: Bride Head Price & Lesbians
Post by: sprite on October 04, 2010, 11:50:00 AM
They sound confused. If they've already stepped out of conventional thinking, why bother to solidify their relationship by conventional means?

Do whatever they want and stop concerning other people who probably don't agree with them anyways.
Title: Re: Bride Head Price & Lesbians
Post by: nraughmoobmuas on January 15, 2013, 03:40:36 AM
Interesting. Probably no wedding? Maybe? Laib toj laib? Both side just give NO DAMN about it?
Title: Re: Bride Head Price & Lesbians
Post by: NceegVaj on January 15, 2013, 08:41:06 AM
;D

So you have two Hmong lesbians, madly in love with one another.  They've known each other since high school and went to the prom together in a big group date with their loser boyfriends at the time, but both grew up and out of the whole group of high school friends.  Somehow, they remain...

You're poisoned your brain my amigo.  Stop this crap.

In the Hmong Vang Pao culture - VP would have them ordered to a chopper and dropped in the steepest jungle of Laos.

In the post VP days - they are out casters and disappeared to the no Hmong land.

THAT IS SICK MIND, SICK BODY, SICK PUSS.Y....GET HELP.  IMMEDIATELY.

(http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f29/Vonni12/Lesbian_Kiss.jpg)



Title: Re: Bride Head Price & Lesbians
Post by: supadupac on January 15, 2013, 08:48:12 AM
Which ever one looks more Butch is the guy. :)
Title: Re: Bride Head Price & Lesbians
Post by: AOZ on January 15, 2013, 10:04:53 AM
i accept if kuv daughter is gay.  tsis need ua ntshoob hmoob li... they just go live together.  that's fine with me.  ;D