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General Category => General Discussion => Topic started by: lilly on February 07, 2020, 04:34:11 PM
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https://www.mprnews.org/story/2020/02/07/thousands-of-hmong-and-lao-americans-face-deportation-under-trump-proposal (https://www.mprnews.org/story/2020/02/07/thousands-of-hmong-and-lao-americans-face-deportation-under-trump-proposal)
Thousands of Hmong and Lao Americans face deportation under Trump proposal
In a letter to Secretary of State Mike Pompeo, Rep. Betty McCollum calls the plan 'unconscionable'
Riham FeshirSt. PaulFebruary 7, 2020 3:52 p.m.
Advocates warn that a Trump administration proposal to deport thousands of Hmong and Lao Americans back to Laos could be detrimental to families in Minnesota.
Community advocates say the proposal would affect about 4,700 Hmong and Lao people nationwide who never became United States citizens. Those affected include those who have committed crimes and have deportation orders issued against them.
The Trump administration is negotiating with the Lao government to allow for the deportation, according to Minnesota U.S. Rep. Betty McCollum.
McCollum, a DFLer, wrote a letter Monday to Secretary of State Mike Pompeo opposing the plan, saying it would be “unconscionable to deport individuals to any country in which the U.S. knowingly puts them at risk.”
McCollum’s office has received numerous requests to take urgent action against the negotiations, said her chief of staff, Bill Harper.
"Laos does not want to sign the agreement,” Harper said. “They don’t want these individuals sent back to their country, and in part because most of these individuals have not lived in Laos for decades."
Sia Her, executive director of the Council on Asian Pacific Minnesotans, said it’s unclear how many people in the state would be affected. She said the plan would tear apart families, not to mention burden them financially if a parent were deported. Her added that many individuals have already have served prison terms.
“Many of them will have built a family and lived in communities for decades now,” Her said.
McCollum noted in her letter that Minnesota is home to tens of thousands of Hmong and Lao veterans of the Vietnam War-era conflict, naturalized U.S. citizens who were refugees from Laos and legal residents who never received citizenship.
The Twin Cities is home to the largest urban Hmong concentration in America — with about 82,000 people of Hmong ancestry residing in Minnesota. About 17,800 Lao Americans call the state home, according to estimates by Minnesota Compass.
“This is a strong and vibrant community that contributes immeasurably to the success of Minnesota’s economy and our quality of life,” McCollom wrote. “Any repatriation agreement resulting in the deportation of Hmong-Lao community members will be viewed as a direct attack on my constituents and their family members.”
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I believe he has deported more than two dozens Cambodian.
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I believe he has deported more than two dozens Cambodian.
Yes, he has. They were mostly non-citizens but legal refugees who committed crimes. These people have green cards and call America home. To uproot them all of sudden is a huge disruption to their family life. Many of these people have children so deporting them would essentially be tearing families apart. I don't agree with reaching a repatriation agreement for this reason because keeping families together has more value in my book than other motivators.
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Where do we sign up???
Going start a farm on the hillside
Maybe raise some cattle
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I'm all for it. Let's not pretend that these offenders are peace-building, contributors in Hmong communities. If anything, they have been disrupters. I laugh at the people who act like these people were the glue in their children's lives. If anything, they've done nothing but created an unstable environment for their family, especially the children.
Maybe it's time for serious consequences to get these bad characters to shape up or ship out of Hmong communities. And look on the bright side, if deported, they can finally have their young brides/grooms in Laos. But even Laos don't want them. That says a LOT!
I have no sympathy for them. And btw, this sh.it was happening to Cambodians in Seattle for decades before Trump. I remember watching a PBS documentary about it in the 90s.
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The key issue here is this. The USA is opening up their doors to foreigners and with a reason. If you come here just to suck the resources from the government then you are not doing a service to the american government that got you here in the first place. He don't need you so he kick yall back. He did gave yall a chance but not his fault if yall blew it.
Now with the kids of criminals, it is like a catch 22 kind of a thing. The enemy, once cornered will hold up their innocent children just so you do not strike at them. Do you still bomb the chit out of the both of them? Dayam if you do and double dayam if you don't cuz allowing crimes by our own people do sux. It will put a dampened on your own people and that is not how we try to strive for this american dream when we have the few that is holding us back.
How about this. I'll help deport your hmong criminals and you can help deport my viet criminals.
I only wish for one thing though and that their kids, when being left behind will find a great family so their kids can grow up to be someone productive for this country. Sometimes you break families up for the betterment of the picture as a whole can be justifiable. If I'm that criminal, I want my kids to do better in life than my sad self so with that, come ship my criminal azz already. I'm down for it. When my kids are older, they can fly to the motherland and give daddy a million bucks. How about that?
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Be citizens, citizens!
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sign me up
i'm ready to go back to the motherland
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Be citizens, citizens!
I agree and don’t commit crime.
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sign me up
i'm ready to go back to the motherland
You can get up and go on your own any day now lol
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You can get up and go on your own any day now lol
not really PROUD lao afterall
;D
going start a veggie farm by the hillside
maybe have a cattle of two
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I'm all for it. Let's not pretend that these offenders are peace-building, contributors in Hmong communities. If anything, they have been disrupters. I laugh at the people who act like these people were the glue in their children's lives. If anything, they've done nothing but created an unstable environment for their family, especially the children.
Maybe it's time for serious consequences to get these bad characters to shape up or ship out of Hmong communities. And look on the bright side, if deported, they can finally have their young brides/grooms in Laos. But even Laos don't want them. That says a LOT!
I have no sympathy for them. And btw, this sh.it was happening to Cambodians in Seattle for decades before Trump. I remember watching a PBS documentary about it in the 90s.
Ofcourse you are and if Trump changes his mind tomorrow, you'll be for that too because that's what brainless people do.
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You can get up and go on your own any day now lol
Watch him back pedal when challenged directly like this... ;D
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I'm all for it. Let's not pretend that these offenders are peace-building, contributors in Hmong communities. If anything, they have been disrupters. I laugh at the people who act like these people were the glue in their children's lives. If anything, they've done nothing but created an unstable environment for their family, especially the children.
Maybe it's time for serious consequences to get these bad characters to shape up or ship out of Hmong communities. And look on the bright side, if deported, they can finally have their young brides/grooms in Laos. But even Laos don't want them. That says a LOT!
I have no sympathy for them. And btw, this sh.it was happening to Cambodians in Seattle for decades before Trump. I remember watching a PBS documentary about it in the 90s.
Ofcourse you are and if Trump changes his mind tomorrow, you'll be for that too because that's what brainless people do.
LOVE IT!!! ;D ;D ;D
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Regardless of what crimes they have committed... everywhere you live and every race have criminals. Us compared to the whole USA, we don't even compared. We are still a minority when compared to the crimes where as other races have caused. It's not about who to send back. Why? or that criminals should be sent back. It's about us as a whole HMONG/LAO community. When are we going to stand up and unite as one? Our hmong mentality has always been "Not my concern if it doesn't have anything to do with me". Well, you better stop with this mentality thinking because it is about everyone in your race regardless if you want to claim that you are a hmong or not. It's about standing up now for the present and for your future generation so that they will know not to push hmong people around. We might be a small community.. but I think if we all stand up and unite as one we will be stronger. If you want to live in a crime-free country, this is not the country for you. Every day people are getting murder, robbed, and raped. It happens everywhere.
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Yup.
Crime is a no-no.
I agree and don’t commit crime.
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This is the reason why I keep telling y'all I ain't voting for anyone, never have, never will. You help them get to the top and then they burn you. I agree with don't commit crime to some extend. This is because I know and you probably know someone who have a ONE time criminal record for being at the wrong place at the wrong time, with the wrong people, doing something culturally in good intentions but was breaking the law in the American Justice System, etc. Furthermore, some of the real criminals are still out there, they haven't been caught and charged yet. All of this deportation laws is about hate and racism, nothing more.
So basically Serial killer John down the street who's White is not getting deported or hang for killing women and children instead he get the holiday stay and treatment, but Jose who hijacked a ATM machine and stole $10k is getting deported. These laws are made to favor the White but they don't tell you that, it's against the law lol. You suppose to see thru the BS and know that yourself.
Can you imagine if the Native Indians wrote a law back in the days to deport White folks, this would still be Indian land. This is the same process. When you want a group of people to get the F out of your country, you can't say it out loud, so you have to create laws that only apply to them and you remove them under those laws so you don't appear to look so evil, but truth is you are worst than the devil. Yes, in the mist of it all, some White Color folks will get burn to make you think that it affect all colors but they know their casualties before hand and they willing to sacrifice a few of their color to get all of you out.
White people are smarter than you think, they will F-YOU UP and make themselves appears to be the good guys. You people need to wake the F up, just because your White buddies thinks you okay don't mean White America like you. It's only a few White folks you know personally that like you. The majority of White people still want you to GO BACK TO WHERE YOU CAME FROM.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WRuHQtnHK0Q+ws# (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WRuHQtnHK0Q+ws#)
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I had never voted until Obama ran.
Now I'm voting every year.
This is the reason why I keep telling y'all I ain't voting for anyone, never have, never will. You help them get to the top and then they burn you. I agree with don't commit crime to some extend. This is because I know and you probably know someone who have a ONE time criminal record for being at the wrong place at the wrong time, with the wrong people, doing something culturally in good intentions but was breaking the law in the American Justice System, etc. Furthermore, some of the real criminals are still out there, they haven't been caught and charged yet. All of this deportation laws is about hate and racism, nothing more.
So basically Serial killer John down the street who's White is not getting deported or hang for killing women and children instead he get the holiday stay and treatment, but Jose who hijacked a ATM machine and stole $10k is getting deported. These laws are made to favor the White but they don't tell you that, it's against the law lol. You suppose to see thru the BS and know that yourself.
Can you imagine if the Native Indians wrote a law back in the days to deport White folks, this would still be Indian land. This is the same process. When you want a group of people to get the F out of your country, you can't say it out loud, so you have to create laws that only apply to them and you remove them under those laws so you don't appear to look so evil, but truth is you are worst than the devil. Yes, in the mist of it all, some White Color folks will get burn to make you think that it affect all colors but they know their casualties before hand and they willing to sacrifice a few of their color to get all of you out.
White people are smarter than you think, they will F-YOU UP and make themselves appears to be the good guys. You people need to wake the F up, just because your White buddies thinks you okay don't mean White America like you. It's only a few White folks you know personally that like you. The majority of White people still want you to GO BACK TO WHERE YOU CAME FROM.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WRuHQtnHK0Q+ws# (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WRuHQtnHK0Q+ws#)
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Well, Trump is pushing for deportation of those people that already on the list of deportation for years... or those folks that lost their green cards/illegal. Previous Pres. choose not to pursue (they could have) while Trump make sure all the loose ends are tied up...to make America Great Again.
Do you know anyone that could be deporting? I'm just curious, what did Trump offer Laos to make them reconsider accepting the deportees while in the past they were so hesitant.
Also, another matter..what about those folks that were born in Thailand...doe s this mean they will not be deporting to Laos since they were never Laotian citizenship to begin with?
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This is the reason why I keep telling y'all I ain't voting for anyone, never have, never will. You help them get to the top and then they burn you. I agree with don't commit crime to some extend. This is because I know and you probably know someone who have a ONE time criminal record for being at the wrong place at the wrong time, with the wrong people, doing something culturally in good intentions but was breaking the law in the American Justice System, etc. Furthermore, some of the real criminals are still out there, they haven't been caught and charged yet. All of this deportation laws is about hate and racism, nothing more.
So basically Serial killer John down the street who's White is not getting deported or hang for killing women and children instead he get the holiday stay and treatment, but Jose who hijacked a ATM machine and stole $10k is getting deported. These laws are made to favor the White but they don't tell you that, it's against the law lol. You suppose to see thru the BS and know that yourself.
Can you imagine if the Native Indians wrote a law back in the days to deport White folks, this would still be Indian land. This is the same process. When you want a group of people to get the F out of your country, you can't say it out loud, so you have to create laws that only apply to them and you remove them under those laws so you don't appear to look so evil, but truth is you are worst than the devil. Yes, in the mist of it all, some White Color folks will get burn to make you think that it affect all colors but they know their casualties before hand and they willing to sacrifice a few of their color to get all of you out.
White people are smarter than you think, they will F-YOU UP and make themselves appears to be the good guys. You people need to wake the F up, just because your White buddies thinks you okay don't mean White America like you. It's only a few White folks you know personally that like you. The majority of White people still want you to GO BACK TO WHERE YOU CAME FROM.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WRuHQtnHK0Q+ws# (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WRuHQtnHK0Q+ws#)
Tell us again, what is 25 to life in jail here in the usa vs being deported for 25 to life in laos have in common?
The answer is simple. Keep the criminals out of the world of the normal society. I too have a criminal mind but I'm smart enough not to act upon it. If you do not agree with this simple concept, do allow me to rape your wife and you can help me stay here in the usa and I will rape your mom next.
Best to deport my criminal azz back to wuhan so your love ones can be safe.
This same message goes to all criminals, regardless of your skin or race. Get them out of our sight and make america, safe again.
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Well, Trump is pushing for deportation of those people that already on the list of deportation for years... or those folks that lost their green cards/illegal. Previous Pres. choose not to pursue (they could have) while Trump make sure all the loose ends are tied up...to make America Great Again.
Do you know anyone that could be deporting? I'm just curious, what did Trump offer Laos to make them reconsider accepting the deportees while in the past they were so hesitant.
Also, another matter..what about those folks that were born in Thailand...doe s this mean they will not be deporting to Laos since they were never Laotian citizenship to begin with?
I don't care who is in politics.
When everyone else be ignorant or hating on you because a china man that fits your description be doing them filthy crimes and you get this guilty by association factor, now that's where I draw the line. Same goes with those who hates ALL kaydoos cuz of the act by one kaydoo.
Don't tell me you don't flinch when a dirty kaydoo be walking behind you.
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Don't complain about the injustice in America if you are not going to vote.
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Blame on those hmong folks who voted for Trump. Let Trump deport all their grandmas,grandpas, uncles, aunts and relatives back. They voted for him because he was republican but overlooked that he was racist.
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Guys, Just think of all those young Lao Hmong girls you can have when you go back! ;)
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Any of your Hmong communities doing anything about it? Any Hmong town hall meeting? Any protest? Any thing at all? J/w..
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Any of your Hmong communities doing anything about it? Any Hmong town hall meeting? Any protest? Any thing at all? J/w..
Too busy working to protest
Plus its winter
Still cold as F
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Ofcourse you are and if Trump changes his mind tomorrow, you'll be for that too because that's what brainless people do.
Oh shut up already you cancer-ridden fake Christian. I've been for it since way back when you Californians were killing your brother for life insurance money. Did Trump f.uck you in the a.ss that hard that you are so butthurt? Maybe he grabbed your wife by the p.ussy and you're still sore about it.
The only brainless one is you and all of your state. Except for the few conservative ones, of course. You people are literally living in a s.hithole.
Nobody else in the country wants you Californians to move to their state. Just build a wall around California.
California needs to sink into the Pacific Ocean or climate change is a hoax.
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America is too racist for you Hmong Democrats. You should be happy that some will be rightfully deported back to Laos. In fact, why don't you Hmong Democrap volunteer yourselves. :2funny: :2funny: :2funny: :2funny: :2funny: :2funny: :2funny: :2funny: :2funny: :2funny: :2funny:
The only good Hmong Democrap is a dead one. They're already braindead so might as well just pull the plug.
See how f.cuking dumb you ucnts are. You complain about America being too racist. You hate white people. You don't want to assimilate, yet complain about OGs marrying teen brides and the patriarchal culture. Some of you plan to marry oversea teen brides yourselves. When you get a chance to return to Laos for free, you're suddenly scared.
No wonder white folks where y'all live in big Hmong communities can't stand your guts. You poop out tons of children with IQs less than 80 and expect the government to take care of them.
California and Minnesota are the worst offenders. Is it any surprise that the most corruption and scandals occur in such states?
Just because some of y'all finally got college degrees after white leftists convinced you with extra minority grants, y'all act like you're hot s.hit. But your roots still stinky. You still got that socialist mindset. AND THIS IS WHY THE HMONG WILL NEVER HAVE A COUNTRY. If they did, it would burn down anyways.
The Hmong take anything good and ruin it with their socialist ideas. Church is one of those places.
Just go back to Laos already.
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Ok, so here's the latest on the Hmong deportation
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9cjPynLFof4 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9cjPynLFof4)
I'm glad we have a Hmong person running for national office but still... he shouldn't defend the deportation and should advocate for us Hmong.
Yes a Hmong person will be the best voice for Hmong people but why isn't he speaking up for the Hmong at this crucial time? Why he is agreeing w/ the current administration?
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Depends..reaso ns can vary for better or worst...