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Title: Interracial marriages
Post by: Dok_Champa on February 22, 2021, 08:11:27 PM
Just want to know what PHers are thinking on this topic.  Thanks for sharing.
Title: Re: Interracial marriages
Post by: hmgROCK on February 22, 2021, 08:45:54 PM
that would be a no from me
that's how you get weird looking babies

(https://i.ytimg.com/vi/2JIH3pk3k6w/hqdefault.jpg)

/s
Title: Re: Interracial marriages
Post by: ProudLao on February 22, 2021, 09:03:14 PM
Just want to know what PHers are thinking on this topic.  Thanks for sharing.

Most definitely. The world is full of beautiful race.
Title: Re: Interracial marriages
Post by: DuMa on February 22, 2021, 09:09:00 PM
that would be a no from me
that's how you get weird looking babies

(https://i.ytimg.com/vi/2JIH3pk3k6w/hqdefault.jpg)

/s

We all are mixed somehow.   That makes you weird too  :2funny:

you only got 4 toes


(https://i.imgur.com/ZLWDBtH.jpg)
Title: Re: Interracial marriages
Post by: theking on February 22, 2021, 09:16:09 PM
Most definitely. The world is full of beautiful race.

Yep, +1 for you sir!  O0

I want my daughter to have the same choices as me by marrying someone she loves and loves her back regardless of "race", ethnicity, religion, political views, social status, career choice, income level, etc.

Title: Re: Interracial marriages
Post by: theking on February 22, 2021, 09:16:57 PM
We all are mixed somehow.   That makes you weird too  :2funny:

you only got 4 toes

No wonder dude dare not come out of the basement.. ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Interracial marriages
Post by: DuMa on February 22, 2021, 09:19:34 PM
No wonder dude dare not come out of the basement.. ;D ;D ;D

Fool not going anywhere when covid is still out there.  Wife order not to go to work or go any places till he gets them shots.  Biggest poocee whip I ever heard of.   :2funny:
Title: Re: Interracial marriages
Post by: ProudLao on February 22, 2021, 09:26:51 PM
Yep, +1 for you sir!  O0

I want my daughter to have the same choices as me by marrying someone she loves and loves her back regardless of "race", ethnicity, religion, political views, social status, career choice, income level, etc.

Right back at you man!

With me, I take pride in my daughter’s happiness. That’s what it is all about, the happiness of your children and our grandchildren.
Title: Re: Interracial marriages
Post by: hmgROCK on February 22, 2021, 09:31:01 PM
We all are mixed somehow.   That makes you weird too  :2funny:

you only got 4 toes


last name:  nguyen
might be dating your cousin or family member
  ;D O0
Title: Re: Interracial marriages
Post by: hmgROCK on February 22, 2021, 09:50:22 PM
fried rice or refined beans

???

 
Title: Re: Interracial marriages
Post by: theking on February 22, 2021, 10:04:24 PM
Fool not going anywhere when covid is still out there.  Wife order not to go to work or go any places till he gets them shots.  Biggest poocee whip I ever heard of.   :2funny:

What's worst or funnier is that it's just his imaginary like the *fake* "hmong girl in north carolina that wants to have sex with" him and all he needs to do is "call her"... ;D ;D ;D:

(https://i.imgur.com/JSA1Ohv.png)

Title: Re: Interracial marriages
Post by: hmgROCK on February 22, 2021, 10:14:24 PM
didn't wallflower tell you not to use other PHER name for your false lies

LOL

funny shyt
 ;D ;D
Title: Re: Interracial marriages
Post by: hmgROCK on February 22, 2021, 10:29:17 PM
We all are mixed somehow.   That makes you weird too  :2funny:

you only got 4 toes



Both you two got a foot fetish
Or something

Relax man
Wife bought me wrong size
Little bit big
Title: Re: Interracial marriages
Post by: Reporter on February 22, 2021, 11:05:14 PM
I won't intentionally go out to marry a non-Hmong just to diversify my genes. But I will marry a non-Hmong if my heart leads me to her and vice versa.

(The prefix "non" does not stand alone as a word, so I had to put a hyphen after it to connect to the next word to turn the word negative.)
Title: Re: Interracial marriages
Post by: Dok_Champa on February 23, 2021, 09:17:47 AM
Ok, looks like we have 1 no and 2 yes and 1 maybe...

I think for me, I'm like the "maybe"... or will  have to see or to be determined, or depends...

But at the end of the day, even if I'm against it.... I will support if they have found the person to love them, cherish them, makes them happy.
Title: Re: Interracial marriages
Post by: Reporter on February 23, 2021, 12:47:08 PM
The world is very mixed nowadays.
Title: Re: Interracial marriages
Post by: Dok_Champa on February 24, 2021, 09:47:35 AM
The world is very mixed nowadays.
Interracial marriages has been around probably since the beginning of humankind and even back in Laos... Even in my close knit family, there's interracial marriages..

But I still hope to have a nice hmng nyab and hmong vaus... But it's to hard to find them these days..since they toss the "visiting the girls home" courting ritual ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D AND these days, many forego the Hmong New Year celebrations, another long standing courting rituals..

So, I'm thinking it's very possible interracial marriages are the thing of the future whether we are ready or not.
Title: Re: Interracial marriages
Post by: Reporter on February 24, 2021, 10:51:31 AM
We change with times. But that's still a matter of choice. If a girl thinks it's appropriate just to stay on her sofa for guys to visit her and call those talks "dates", she can still insist on that. Lots of marriageable guys--especially those from out-of-town--will still honor that.

Interracial marriages aren't waiting to be the future. They are happening right now. In fact, they have happened yesterday and the days before, too.

Interracial marriages has been around probably since the beginning of humankind and even back in Laos... Even in my close knit family, there's interracial marriages..

But I still hope to have a nice hmng nyab and hmong vaus... But it's to hard to find them these days..since they toss the "visiting the girls home" courting ritual ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D AND these days, many forego the Hmong New Year celebrations, another long standing courting rituals..

So, I'm thinking it's very possible interracial marriages are the thing of the future whether we are ready or not.
Title: Re: Interracial marriages
Post by: Reporter on February 24, 2021, 10:53:38 AM
Right. They choose whom they want.

You really can't control anyone's heart. The elders who make promises that they will hold their sons or daughters to the deals between any two families usually end up saying "we give them birth but they have their own hearts."

We can't even control our own hearts, can we?

I don't have kids, but if I did, I won't lie. I'd have a preference for a Hmong partner for them. However, who they love is not up to me, so they can marry whomever they want to.
Title: Re: Interracial marriages
Post by: Dok_Champa on February 24, 2021, 12:22:52 PM
We change with times. But that's still a matter of choice. If a girl thinks it's appropriate just to stay on her sofa for guys to visit her and call those talks "dates", she can still insist on that. Lots of marriageable guys--especially those from out-of-town--will still honor that.

Interracial marriages aren't waiting to be the future. They are happening right now. In fact, they have happened yesterday and the days before, too.
How young people court today is not the same as how they court years ago...so a girl today will feel weird sitting on her sofa waiting for guys to visit or call.  You and I are familiar with that and it's sad to see that long standing tradition lost. Changing of the times indeed.

Interracial marriages has been happening since the beginning of mankind but today it's inching closer to my neck of the wood.... and sooner or later I have to come to term with that...   and right now, I'm still feeling "hopeful.."
Title: Re: Interracial marriages
Post by: Reporter on February 24, 2021, 12:33:24 PM
You can't stop it, Dok. We don't live in homogenous society anymore. The world around us is diverse.

I don't regret that the home girl tactic is gone. It has created many problems in the past such as suitors hooking up with young moms instead of their daughters, etc. Plus, a guy isn't really ready to meet the family just on first sight of the girl... Give it time. Let outside dating take place. Just tell daughters to be careful whom they're with, etc.

No hope of going back to times. We are moving forward. Diversity. Interracial marriages across all. We can't stop it.

How young people court today is not the same as how they court years ago...so a girl today will feel weird sitting on her sofa waiting for guys to visit or call.  You and I are familiar with that and it's sad to see that long standing tradition lost. Changing of the times indeed.

Interracial marriages has been happening since the beginning of mankind but today it's inching closer to my neck of the wood.... and sooner or later I have to come to term with that...   and right now, I'm still feeling "hopeful.."
Title: Re: Interracial marriages
Post by: Dok_Champa on February 24, 2021, 12:42:37 PM
My children and I talked about interracial dating, family discussion.  The young people they are more open minded to the idea because they grew up in this country so they can relate to other young w/ similar backgrounds like them.  When I searched my heart and soul, the one thing I really want for my children is to find someone to love and cherish them and they in return... and if that person happens to be of another race, I do accept. 
Title: Re: Interracial marriages
Post by: Reporter on February 24, 2021, 12:53:32 PM
It's good you are able to accept or will have to accept it.

Moms hang tight onto their children's well-being. I know. But moms have gotta let that hold go. What moms think will make their children happy won't necessarily be so.

My children and I talked about interracial dating, family discussion.  The young people they are more open minded to the idea because they grew up in this country so they can relate to other young w/ similar backgrounds like them.  When I searched my heart and soul, the one thing I really want for my children is to find someone to love and cherish them and they in return... and if that person happens to be of another race, I do accept.
Title: Re: Interracial marriages
Post by: Dok_Champa on February 24, 2021, 01:02:27 PM
YEPP...but at the same time, easier said than done until you walk in my shoes ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D Let's re-continue w/ the discussion when the day comes... ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Interracial marriages
Post by: Reporter on February 24, 2021, 01:40:54 PM
Sure.

Feel free to call me if you want more of my opinion on this. You already have my number.

Yes, you do. Here it is: 651 424 7600. :2funny:

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YEPP...but at the same time, easier said than done until you walk in my shoes ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D Let's re-continue w/ the discussion when the day comes... ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Interracial marriages
Post by: Dok_Champa on February 24, 2021, 02:07:44 PM
Sure.

Feel free to call me if you want more of my opinion on this. You already have my number.

Yes, you do. Here it is: 651 424 7600. :2funny:
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Show me a birth certificate first and NO, I don't want to see yours ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Interracial marriages
Post by: Reporter on February 24, 2021, 02:16:25 PM
Well, you know me and you: we don't have such thing. We got into the US without them. We came only through the Congressional approval of the Extended Parole Authority of 1975, which allowed people like us into the country without hospital or village chief records.

I could create one for you. But that would be fake. So, I won't do that.


Show me a birth certificate first and NO, I don't want to see yours ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Interracial marriages
Post by: Dok_Champa on February 24, 2021, 02:28:03 PM
I'll wait for the real certificates.
Title: Re: Interracial marriages
Post by: Dok_Champa on February 24, 2021, 03:39:31 PM
interracial marriage is not a crime..i've dated out of race more than plenty of times, and i notice how much in common humans have despite the color of our skin. take for example, you go pick up your white g-f, her mother and father is going to asked you a few questions first...what's your clan, who's the chief of your clan....and where and when you bringing their daughter back...haha j/k about the clan part...most people from good families hold very similar values...we're all Americans whether we want to admit to it or not..haha
Did you have a interracial marriage?
Title: Re: Interracial marriages
Post by: Reporter on February 24, 2021, 03:48:09 PM
Okay. I'll have to request my immigration documents from immigration office then. They should have everything on me from the time my family got interviewed in Ban Vinai to the time I got my Green Card here years ago. I think they even have info on my citizenship and passport, too.

I'll wait for the real certificates.
Title: Re: Interracial marriages
Post by: Dok_Champa on February 24, 2021, 04:00:18 PM
Okay. I'll have to request my immigration documents from immigration office then. They should have everything on me from the time my family got interviewed in Ban Vinai to the time I got my Green Card here years ago. I think they even have info on my citizenship and passport, too.
Oh no, not interested in yours... but the little ones ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Interracial marriages
Post by: Reporter on February 24, 2021, 04:17:42 PM
One more year or so then?

But I'm not just talking. Nothing is going to change how I feel about this issue. I've seen enough of history. I know I accept diversity to the extreme.

Oh no, not interested in yours... but the little ones ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Interracial marriages
Post by: theking on February 24, 2021, 04:57:16 PM
Some Hmong guy and his non-Hmong wife about 10 years ago  ;D:

(https://i.ytimg.com/vi/1e-bS7UQeVU/maxresdefault.jpg)
Title: Re: Interracial marriages
Post by: theking on February 24, 2021, 05:01:46 PM
This Hmong guy and his non-Hmong wife have been married for about 40 years now:

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Title: Re: Interracial marriages
Post by: hmgROCK on February 25, 2021, 07:36:58 AM
Guess I’m the only one who voted no
Going get some weird looking hybrid kids

Lol
Title: Re: Interracial marriages
Post by: starchaser1989 on February 25, 2021, 08:38:52 AM
Tough call.  Hmong men today are still living in their parents basement so can't really blame the Hmong girls who want to marry to someone who is responsible, even out of race. On the other hand, Hmong girls nowadays don't really respect their body like 30+ years ago.  Chances are Hmong men will end up marrying someone who been around the world and taste the rainbow.  If that don't bother you, wait until you both argue and certain names get mention, it's the icing on the cake lol.  Conclusion, there's good and bad, pros and cons in either way you look at it so just do what works in your situation really.   
Title: Re: Interracial marriages
Post by: Reporter on February 25, 2021, 12:33:10 PM
To truly keep a nonHmong and for a nonHmong to truly keep a Hmong, there's a lot to do.

I'm serious.

Tough call.  Hmong men today are still living in their parents basement so can't really blame the Hmong girls who want to marry to someone who is responsible, even out of race. On the other hand, Hmong girls nowadays don't really respect their body like 30+ years ago.  Chances are Hmong men will end up marrying someone who been around the world and taste the rainbow.  If that don't bother you, wait until you both argue and certain names get mention, it's the icing on the cake lol.  Conclusion, there's good and bad, pros and cons in either way you look at it so just do what works in your situation really.
Title: Re: Interracial marriages
Post by: hmgROCK on February 25, 2021, 12:38:14 PM
Tough call.  Hmong men today are still living in their parents basement so can't really blame the Hmong girls who want to marry to someone who is responsible, even out of race. On the other hand, Hmong girls nowadays don't really respect their body like 30+ years ago.  Chances are Hmong men will end up marrying someone who been around the world and taste the rainbow.  If that don't bother you, wait until you both argue and certain names get mention, it's the icing on the cake lol.  Conclusion, there's good and bad, pros and cons in either way you look at it so just do what works in your situation really.

Lol

Whats with these basement hmong guy comment???
Got a fetish or something
Title: Re: Interracial marriages
Post by: Dok_Champa on February 25, 2021, 12:57:36 PM
Ok, let's be a little vulnerable for a moment.. My biased towards interracial marriages is because of the cultural difference, values, beliefs, way of life, perspective of marriages, etc... When the going gets tough in the marriage, they (non hmong partner) bail out.  In the Asian cultures and similar across the board, when the going gets tough, many times we try and try again...becaus e marriage is a bond between individuals, family, and community...so everyone encouraged couples to stay, work before giving up. 
Title: Re: Interracial marriages
Post by: Reporter on February 25, 2021, 01:12:41 PM
Ok, let's be a little vulnerable for a moment.. My biased towards interracial marriages is because of the cultural difference, values, beliefs, way of life, perspective of marriages, etc... When the going gets tough in the marriage, they (non hmong partner) bail out.  In the Asian cultures and similar across the board, when the going gets tough, many times we try and try again...becaus e marriage is a bond between individuals, family, and community...so everyone encouraged couples to stay, work before giving up.

To truly keep a nonHmong and for a nonHmong to truly keep a Hmong, there's a lot to do.

I'm serious.

Title: Re: Interracial marriages
Post by: hmgROCK on February 25, 2021, 01:15:03 PM
Ok, let's be a little vulnerable for a moment.. My biased towards interracial marriages is because of the cultural difference, values, beliefs, way of life, perspective of marriages, etc... When the going gets tough in the marriage, they (non hmong partner) bail out.  In the Asian cultures and similar across the board, when the going gets tough, many times we try and try again...becaus e marriage is a bond between individuals, family, and community...so everyone encouraged couples to stay, work before giving up.

Thats meeka relationship for you
Married in the morning
Divorce at night

 ;D O0

Thats why i voted no
Plus weird looking kids
Title: Re: Interracial marriages
Post by: Reporter on February 25, 2021, 01:16:46 PM
Rock, do not mock around on this issue. We'll take your comments seriously to be discriminatory .

Thats meeka relationship for you
Married in the morning
Divorce at night

 ;D O0

Thats why i voted no
Plus weird looking kids
Title: Re: Interracial marriages
Post by: Visualmon on February 25, 2021, 11:45:36 PM
Rock, do not mock around on this issue. We'll take your comments seriously to be discriminatory .

 ;D ;D
Title: Re: Interracial marriages
Post by: ProudLao on February 26, 2021, 09:02:58 AM
Guess I’m the only one who voted no
Going get some weird looking hybrid kids

Lol

You have definitely been living under a rock.

Don’t mock others and be careful what you say, you don’t have any kids yet and your grandchildren to come.
Title: Re: Interracial marriages
Post by: DuMa on February 26, 2021, 09:08:12 AM
If only I can vote another time

Half viet and half hmong.  Still looking like a china man so no stare from the public here.   :2funny:
Title: Re: Interracial marriages
Post by: ProudLao on February 26, 2021, 12:38:20 PM
We are all China men lol
Title: Re: Interracial marriages
Post by: Reporter on February 26, 2021, 12:40:14 PM
No. Japanese, too.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d_CaZ4EAexQ (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d_CaZ4EAexQ)

We are all China men lol
Title: Re: Interracial marriages
Post by: ProudLao on February 26, 2021, 12:43:26 PM
Okay, my bad. You got me there . Lol
Title: Re: Interracial marriages
Post by: Reporter on February 26, 2021, 12:45:25 PM
Yeah.

I think, even if my child is mixed Thai and Hmong or mixed Chinese-Thai-Hmong, she will be looked upon as either Chinese or Japanese.

Okay, my bad. You got me there . Lol
Title: Re: Interracial marriages
Post by: ProudLao on February 26, 2021, 12:48:07 PM
Yup, very true. My daughter is mixed and growing up people can only see her as a China woman lol
Title: Re: Interracial marriages
Post by: DuMa on February 26, 2021, 12:49:43 PM
My Hmong friend said he's Hmong golian

At least that type of china man is on the map cuz they know Mongolian beef.
Title: Re: Interracial marriages
Post by: ProudLao on February 26, 2021, 12:51:26 PM
My Hmong friend said he's Hmong golian

At least that type of china man is on the map cuz they know Mongolian beef.

LOL
Title: Re: Interracial marriages
Post by: DuMa on February 26, 2021, 12:51:55 PM
You Hmong should play with them ignorant.   Say you Hmong anese from the island of mung bean.
Title: Re: Interracial marriages
Post by: Reporter on February 26, 2021, 12:52:42 PM
Proof right there!

Yup, very true. My daughter is mixed and growing up people can only see her as a China woman lol
Title: Re: Interracial marriages
Post by: Reporter on February 26, 2021, 12:53:37 PM
Why should one mislead someone when one does not want to be addressed so?

You Hmong should play with them ignorant.   Say you Hmong anese from the island of mung bean.
Title: Re: Interracial marriages
Post by: ProudLao on February 26, 2021, 12:55:42 PM
You Hmong should play with them ignorant.   Say you Hmong anese from the island of mung bean.

I’ve known some Lao people claimed to be Thai just because they don’t want to have to describe where and what Lao is lol
Title: Re: Interracial marriages
Post by: ProudLao on February 26, 2021, 12:57:05 PM
Proof right there!

It’s the society we live in, and it stems from the parents who does not educate their children.
Title: Re: Interracial marriages
Post by: Dok_Champa on February 26, 2021, 01:17:40 PM
Ok, most of you have said you are open to interracial marriage, have anyone been in a interracial relationship before besides DaCurses?  I can say I like steak but if I've never eaten steak, do I really like it? something like that...
Title: Re: Interracial marriages
Post by: Mr_Mechanic on February 26, 2021, 01:36:13 PM
Ok, most of you have said you are open to interracial marriage, have anyone been in a interracial relationship before besides DaCurses?  I can say I like steak but if I've never eaten steak, do I really like it? something like that...
Crushes, Yes.  Relationships, Nope.
Title: Re: Interracial marriages
Post by: theking on February 26, 2021, 02:56:39 PM
Ok, most of you have said you are open to interracial marriage, have anyone been in a interracial relationship before besides DaCurses?  I can say I like steak but if I've never eaten steak, do I really like it? something like that...

Yes, several..No different than my relationships with Hmong girls.
Title: Re: Interracial marriages
Post by: Reporter on February 26, 2021, 03:34:33 PM
Just because I haven't eaten steak doesn't mean I'm not open to eating it. Being open to eating it doesn't mean I have to eat it. I'll eat it only if it doesn't cause me health issues.

Ok, most of you have said you are open to interracial marriage, have anyone been in a interracial relationship before besides DaCurses?  I can say I like steak but if I've never eaten steak, do I really like it? something like that...
Title: Re: Interracial marriages
Post by: Dok_Champa on February 26, 2021, 03:50:22 PM
Just because I haven't eaten steak doesn't mean I'm not open to eating it. Being open to eating it doesn't mean I have to eat it. I'll eat it only if it doesn't cause me health issues.
But have you ever eaten steak?  I mean, if a person claim to like steak but never eaten ONCE....  and when I say eaten a steak, I mean opening your heart to dating other race.  When you open your heart, you will find beauty in another race and you will not help yourself but end up w/ at least a minimum of 1 relationship.. .. but if you close your heart and say you are open, is that really open?

I don't know The King and DaCurse but on responds, I can say they are OPEN to interracial marriages.... They try the steak, probably variety of steaks actually... I'm guessing.

I have not open my heart to dating outside of my race and so I don't seek it and when I don't see it , I don't find it, plain and simple...UNLES S fate in the universe throws it my way....  but that's life, sometimes fate in the universe throws things at us w/ out seeking...



Title: Re: Interracial marriages
Post by: Reporter on February 26, 2021, 04:46:10 PM
Bring me a hot steaming steak to me and see if I won't eat it. I'll tell you what it tastes like, too, afterwards.

That's what I mean by being open to eating steak.

But if there's no steak, how do I eat it? Can't eat what's not there.

I am not going to eat just any steak though.



But have you ever eaten steak?  I mean, if a person claim to like steak but never eaten ONCE....  and when I say eaten a steak, I mean opening your heart to dating other race.  When you open your heart, you will find beauty in another race and you will not help yourself but end up w/ at least a minimum of 1 relationship.. .. but if you close your heart and say you are open, is that really open?

I don't know The King and DaCurse but on responds, I can say they are OPEN to interracial marriages.... They try the steak, probably variety of steaks actually... I'm guessing.

and when I say eaten a steak, I mean opening your heart to dating other race.  When you open your heart, you will find beauty in another race and you will not help yourself but end up w/ at least a minimum of 1 relationship.. .. but if you close your heart and say you are open, is that really open?

I have not open my heart to dating outside of my race and so I don't seek it and when I don't see it , I don't find it, plain and simple...UNLES S fate in the universe throws it my way....  but that's life, sometimes fate in the universe throws things at us w/ out seeking...
Title: Re: Interracial marriages
Post by: Dok_Champa on February 26, 2021, 08:45:54 PM
Bring me a hot steaming steak and see if I won't eat it. I'll tell you what it tastes like, too, afterwards.

That's what I mean by being open to eating steak.

But if there's no steak, how do I eat it? Can't eat what's not there.

I am not going to eat just any steak though.
If you like steak you should be able to find without me bringing to you.  If I  have to do that, I may be forcing you

Young people today are more open to interracial marriage and you see more interracial relationship but if a person has never had one, that's a contradiction :D :D :D :D
Title: Re: Interracial marriages
Post by: Visualmon on February 26, 2021, 08:53:44 PM
Interracial dating? Yes, I did have. With several white girls and black girls in the past.
Interracial marriage? Meka dawb = yes. Mev = yes. Meka dub = maybe. Hmoob = nope. Suav = yes. Nippon = maybe. Kaus Lim = yes.

Title: Re: Interracial marriages
Post by: Dok_Champa on February 26, 2021, 09:06:26 PM
Interracial dating? Yes, I did have. With several white girls and black girls in the past.
Interracial marriage? Meka dawb = yes. Mev = yes. Meka dub = maybe. Hmoob = nope. Suav = yes. Nippon = maybe. Kaus Lim = yes.
You bring another interesting point to interracial marriage/dating , there's a different layer/level of acceptance within the race, hope that make sense..

Title: Re: Interracial marriages
Post by: Reporter on February 27, 2021, 08:38:03 AM
Liking and being open to it are two different things. I am open to eating only good steaks that I like; I won't be open to eating bad steaks that I don't like.  There are many kinds of steaks around. I'll eat the good one.

Notice I said "good one" and not "ones." One good steak is enough.


If you like steak you should be able to find without me bringing to you.  If I  have to do that, I may be forcing you

Young people today are more open to interracial marriage and you see more interracial relationship but if a person has never had one, that's a contradiction :D :D :D :D
Title: Re: Interracial marriages
Post by: Dok_Champa on February 27, 2021, 12:22:17 PM
Liking and being open to it are two different things. I am open to eating only good steaks that I like; I won't be open to eating bad steaks that I don't like.  There are many kinds of steaks around. I'll eat the good one.

Notice I said "good one" and not "ones." One good steak is enough.
Since we're talking about interracial marriage, we'll say "steak" = relationship.  You've had plenty of relationship within your own kind but how come non outside of that, just saying.  It's human nature to find people of all races attractive from time to time. Most of us have this experience because that's what it means to be alive.  FYI..my first crush was w/ Scott Peck... wonder what he's up to these days ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

1)I can say I never  had an interracial relationship which could potentially = interracial marriage because it was never in my plan.  My heart was closed to the idea.  So when I was single, I never pursue. 

2)AND let's say interracial marriage is something I don't mind, of course, I may pursue a minimum of 1 or two in my lifetime at least or could be in an interracial marriage because I kept my heart open to loving another race..  EX: DaCurse & The King

3)But let's say "fate" step in and force me into a corner - say I suddenly fall in love with a man that's not Hmong, perhaps, I could be in an interracial marriage...con vert me or not  EX: most people

4)And another  is = respecting choices of others... but may not necessary be your own.  Ex: You can have interracial marriage but don't force me into one...or expect the same of me.. EX:  Most People

My opinion, since you've never had an interracial relationship, you fall into #1, 3, 4
Title: Re: Interracial marriages
Post by: Reporter on February 27, 2021, 02:13:24 PM
I thought the topic "Interracial Marriage" means tying the knot, not just a relationship. A relationship does not necessarily mean "marriage."

So, what frightens you about loving a White or Black man or a Chinese or Latino one at that?

Since we're talking about interracial marriage, we'll say "steak" = relationship.  You've had plenty of relationship within your own kind but how come non outside of that, just saying.  It's human nature to find people of all races attractive from time to time. Most of us have this experience because that's what it means to be alive.  FYI..my first crush was w/ Scott Peck... wonder what he's up to these days ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

1)I can say I never  had an interracial relationship which could potentially = interracial marriage because it was never in my plan.  My heart was closed to the idea.  So when I was single, I never pursue. 

2)AND let's say interracial marriage is something I don't mind, of course, I may pursue a minimum of 1 or two in my lifetime at least or could be in an interracial marriage because I kept my heart open to loving another race..  EX: DaCurse & The King

3)But let's say "fate" step in and force me into a corner - say I suddenly fall in love with a man that's not Hmong, perhaps, I could be in an interracial marriage...con vert me or not  EX: most people

4)And another  is = respecting choices of others... but may not necessary be your own.  Ex: You can have interracial marriage but don't force me into one...or expect the same of me.. EX:  Most People

My opinion, since you've never had an interracial relationship, you fall into #1, 3, 4
Title: Re: Interracial marriages
Post by: Dok_Champa on February 27, 2021, 04:42:16 PM
I thought the topic "Interracial Marriage" means tying the knot, not just a relationship. A relationship does not necessarily mean "marriage."

So, what frightens you about loving a White or Black man or a Chinese or Latino one at that?
Before you get to interracial marriage you've got to go through interracial relationship ...one can't happen w/out the other. 

It just never occur to me an interracial marriage is possible or the idea of marriage.  I was more focused on riding bikes, playing, and where to get the most delicious ice creams.... but it was my first taste of being attracted to the opposite sex...  Who knows, if I was older, mature,  that's a #3 scenario.

Over the years, I came across some fine looking people of another race but again, I'm a one woman man...  So even I who is not into interracial marriage have experience such....
Title: Re: Interracial marriages
Post by: ProudLao on February 27, 2021, 10:15:06 PM
Interracial marriage isn’t for everyone. It has its ups and downs just like any marriage. It takes a deep understanding and acceptance from oneself. If you’re not for it 100% don’t bother with it because you will blame all your arguments and differences on having a different background. Just like interfaith marriage, it’s not for the ordinary person.
Title: Re: Interracial marriages
Post by: Reporter on February 28, 2021, 04:34:23 AM
I see. So, this post is about you getting affirmation that it is okay to have an interracial relationship, which you seem to have felt guilty about after having had one.

Don't worry about it. Feel no guilt about it. It's a good blend for your life as an available woman in a diverse society. I've seen many older Hmong women who are dating or marrying older White men.  I guess that means I've seen many older White men marrying older Hmong women, too. By older, I simply men in their 40s and 50s. And I'm pleased to see that because I know those people have gone through life thinking marrying their own groups would be best but realize that love is more important than being isolated from diversity.

Something like that.


Before you get to interracial marriage you've got to go through interracial relationship ...one can't happen w/out the other. 

It just never occur to me an interracial marriage is possible or the idea of marriage. I was more focused on riding bikes, playing, and where to get the most delicious ice creams.... but it was my first taste of being attracted to the opposite sex...  Who knows, if I was older, mature,  that's a #3 scenario.

Over the years, I came across some fine looking people of another race but again, I'm a one woman man...  So even I who is not into interracial marriage have experience such....
Title: Re: Interracial marriages
Post by: Reporter on February 28, 2021, 04:40:53 AM
True.

We are already pretty mixed. No need to wait millions of years to see that. I bet you know one Hmong mother who has a mixed grandkid today. Or a father who has one, too.

It's evolution man yo dawgs...Blacks, whites, latins, and Asians-we're all trading our women with each other...lols

For Hmong folks its not too bad...for me I'm either too whitewashed for the traditional Hmong women, or not Blonde Hair blue eyes, or 6 foot full of muscles for the whitewashed Hmong women. lols...there is no inbetween...it's hot or cold, left side or right side...hahah

Crossbreeding in the animal kingdom has been shown to yield stronger, smarter and healthier offsprings...h aha Eventually, we're all gonna have to exchange women....and or men...give it several more millions of years of life still exists, its the law of nature....lmao

Ive raised chickens and pigeons all my first half of my life...and I have to tell you guys...every so years, you need to find new blood to infuse or mix with your current flock or bloodlines..ot herwise, you will end up with a lot of weak and deform birds..some showing no sign, but premature deaths...

oh, sorry going off subject...sort of... Hrock, hope you see this message. lols
Title: Re: Interracial marriages
Post by: theking on February 28, 2021, 09:48:29 PM
Interracial marriage isn’t for everyone. It has its ups and downs just like any marriage.

True!

Also same race marriage is not for everyone either..For example, George Lucas' first wife was White but ended divorcing her and is now with a Black wife:

(https://media.vanityfair.com/photos/551574d1fa699a350cfd823a/master/w_1600%2Cc_limit/mellody-hobson-george-lucas-01.jpg)
Title: Re: Interracial marriages
Post by: Dok_Champa on March 01, 2021, 10:18:13 AM
I see. So, this post is about you getting affirmation that it is okay to have an interracial relationship, which you seem to have felt guilty about after having had one.

Don't worry about it. Feel no guilt about it. It's a good blend for your life as an available woman in a diverse society. I've seen many older Hmong women who are dating or marrying older White men.  I guess that means I've seen many older White men marrying older Hmong women, too. By older, I simply men in their 40s and 50s. And I'm pleased to see that because I know those people have gone through life thinking marrying their own groups would be best but realize that love is more important than being isolated from diversity.

Something like that.
Interracial marriage can't happen without interracial relationship and when dealing with one we have to deal with the other.  People that truly embrace interracial marriage should be open to interracial relationship.  If a person is not or never had one, can we really say that person is truly open.  As children, they don't come with biased like adult....overt ime we develop those biased from experience, what we see,  hear around us. 



Title: Re: Interracial marriages
Post by: Dok_Champa on March 01, 2021, 10:24:52 AM
True!

Also same race marriage is not for everyone either..For example, George Lucas' first wife was White but ended divorcing her and is now with a Black wife:

(https://media.vanityfair.com/photos/551574d1fa699a350cfd823a/master/w_1600%2Cc_limit/mellody-hobson-george-lucas-01.jpg)
Kudos to the couple.  When I was thinking of interracial marriage, I was thinking about the Hmong community.  It's making progress but still people in my generation and in my parents generation still find it hard to accept, that's the realistic.  For me, I"ve seen more cases of interracial marriage not working than working.  I'm thinking different cultures, different values, different beliefs, ideas of marriages, and other contributing factors.  Within Asian marrying other Asian, ex. Hmong & Lao, Hmong and Thai, etc.. I see more enduring marriage and I'm thinking because of the shared cultures, beliefs, values, etc...(in some way).

Title: Re: Interracial marriages
Post by: Reporter on March 01, 2021, 10:59:25 AM
Okay. That's true. You have to first get to know someone before marrying them anyway.

I'm open to having an interracial relationship first, too.

Interracial marriage can't happen without interracial relationship and when dealing with one we have to deal with the other.  People that truly embrace interracial marriage should be open to interracial relationship.  If a person is not or never had one, can we really say that person is truly open.  As children, they don't come with biased like adult....overt ime we develop those biased from experience, what we see,  hear around us.
Title: Re: Interracial marriages
Post by: Dok_Champa on March 01, 2021, 03:37:18 PM
Interracial marriage isn’t for everyone. It has its ups and downs just like any marriage. It takes a deep understanding and acceptance from oneself. If you’re not for it 100% don’t bother with it because you will blame all your arguments and differences on having a different background. Just like interfaith marriage, it’s not for the ordinary person.
This entire debate on interracial marriage, Proud Lao sums it up very well:  It's not for everyone.  Whether you are for or against or in the middle, maybe a person know it's not for them.  I haven't thought about that...