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Hobbies & Interests => Computer & Technology => Topic started by: jbutton on June 04, 2010, 04:25:52 PM
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I"m curious. Is the user experience any different from a core 2 due 2.2? Do you feel applications and menu are more responsive?
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Yes, beyond belief.
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Yes, beyond belief.
Are you sure? Is it worth the money? My professor just got his MacBook Pro with Core i7. He said he didn't notice any difference between it and his old MacBook Pro with a 2.2 Ghz core 2 duo. It would be nice if the user interface is snappier.. everything is zippier. But it seems you only benefits when running CPU intensive applications.
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of course you can feel the different.
2 due 2.2
is only running at 2.2 and 2.2 which is 4.4
i7 core 2.2
is running at 2.2 + 2.2+2.2=6.6
there a big different.
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I think if he swaps his hd for a solidstate hd like I did, he will surely notice the speed difference.
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Here's my setup:
HD:
OS : SSD
Photos: 300gb WD raptor 10K RPM
Music: 300gb WD Raptor 10K RPM
Everything else: 1TB seagate
Everything else++: 1TB seagate
Processor: intel [email protected] overclocked at 3.6
RAM: 12GB Corsair 8-8-8
Etc, etc....
In conclusion: It's very fast for what it's use for. "photography" The boot up time is around 30 second from the time I push the start button. Multi-tasking is fast and it doesn't freeze up. I'm waiting for the SSD to come down on price for a larger space capacity.
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Are you sure? Is it worth the money? My professor just got his MacBook Pro with Core i7. He said he didn't notice any difference between it and his old MacBook Pro with a 2.2 Ghz core 2 duo. It would be nice if the user interface is snappier.. everything is zippier. But it seems you only benefits when running CPU intensive applications.
Your professor needs a SSD to make it faster. Usually or most of the time the HD is the bottleneck of the problem. Most of the time the processor is just waiting for the HD to sent the information.
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it feels like it dig deeper into the pocket than the core 2 duo.
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Here's my setup:
HD:
OS : SSD
Photos: 300gb WD raptor 10K RPM
Music: 300gb WD Raptor 10K RPM
Everything else: 1TB seagate
Everything else++: 1TB seagate
Processor: intel [email protected] overclocked at 3.6
RAM: 12GB Corsair 8-8-8
Etc, etc....
In conclusion: It's very fast for what it's use for. "photography" The boot up time is around 30 second from the time I push the start button. Multi-tasking is fast and it doesn't freeze up. I'm waiting for the SSD to come down on price for a larger space capacity.
wow nice
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I'm sure it feels like the other CPU's. Hard, flat, with lots of pins at the bottom of them.
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Unless you are doing any movie converting or editing, then I don't really think you will notice much. Saving a few seconds here and there is nothing much. With movie conversion, you can use the graphics cards to do that job and that is way faster than the cpu. So there really is nothing much gained other than your bank account being smaller. Don't get me wrong, if I had money to burn, I'd get one. Just that I'd rather get a system that will be good enough for me and save the money for other stuff like a TV or bigger monitor.
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Unless you are doing any movie converting or editing, then I don't really think you will notice much. Saving a few seconds here and there is nothing much. With movie conversion, you can use the graphics cards to do that job and that is way faster than the cpu. So there really is nothing much gained other than your bank account being smaller. Don't get me wrong, if I had money to burn, I'd get one. Just that I'd rather get a system that will be good enough for me and save the money for other stuff like a TV or bigger monitor.
That's what I thought..
The mac interface is sure slow.. I'm so used to faster interface from Linux.. In fact, if you compile your own linux kernel, you can specific the kernel to be more responsive to user interface making your interface very very responsive. In fact, probably too responsive that you don't want it anymore. :)
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Here's my setup:
HD:
OS : SSD
Photos: 300gb WD raptor 10K RPM
Music: 300gb WD Raptor 10K RPM
Everything else: 1TB seagate
Everything else++: 1TB seagate
Processor: intel [email protected] overclocked at 3.6
RAM: 12GB Corsair 8-8-8
Etc, etc....
In conclusion: It's very fast for what it's use for. "photography" The boot up time is around 30 second from the time I push the start button. Multi-tasking is fast and it doesn't freeze up. I'm waiting for the SSD to come down on price for a larger space capacity.
very nice setup u got there sir O0 . esp the idea of using the SSD to install/boot the OS/programs and using the sata drives to store data.
don't forget to get your computer in "performance mode" and tweak msconfig, elminates all that un-necessary animations/bootup shiet. it'll make ur computer run even faster.
wat kind of i7 2.6 processor do u have? 920? 750?
i wanna build a gaming/multimedia PC with the 980x since u can overclock it to 3.8GHz or possibly 4.0GHz. will need some serious cooling power to keep that baby under control :-\ . i think the fastest over-clocking done on the 980x so far is 6.0 GHz :o but need to do more research first before bying. do u know is it worth it? over-rated? i'm too lazy to google it :2funny:
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Your professor needs a SSD to make it faster. Usually or most of the time the HD is the bottleneck of the problem. Most of the time the processor is just waiting for the HD to sent the information.
yep. the computer will only run AS FAST as the SLOWEST component.
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very nice setup u got there sir O0 . esp the idea of using the SSD to install/boot the OS/programs and using the sata drives to store data.
don't forget to get your computer in "performance mode" and tweak msconfig, elminates all that un-necessary animations/bootup shiet. it'll make ur computer run even faster.
wat kind of i7 2.6 processor do u have? 920? 750?
i wanna build a gaming/multimedia PC with the 980x since u can overclock it to 3.8GHz or possibly 4.0GHz. will need some serious cooling power to keep that baby under control :-\ . i think the fastest over-clocking done on the 980x so far is 6.0 GHz :o but need to do more research first before bying. do u know is it worth it? over-rated? i'm too lazy to google it :2funny:
Any processor over $300 is not worth getting in terms of price vs performance. You get very little for all that extra money. You are paying 3-4 times the price, but are not even getting 2 times the performance boost. If you have the money though, then it's all for bragging rights. You may be able to save seconds maybe even minutes from some tasks, but it's up to you to figure out if it is worth the price premium.
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I"m curious. Is the user experience any different from a core 2 due 2.2? Do you feel applications and menu are more responsive?
By overclocking my i7 930 from 2.8 Ghz to 3.6 Ghz I actually improved my frame rates on Performance Test 7.0's Complex 3D graphics test from 65 fps to 80 fps and from 44 fps to 50 fps on DirectX 10 testing. So I figure if I'm getting better frame rates by simply overclocking this already fast CPU, then just imagine how big a difference it'd be to go from a Core2 Duo 2.2 to a Core i7.
Check out Passmark.com for CPU benchmark comparisons. If you download their program you get to download other people's benchmarks so you can get an idea of how well they do compared to yours, or compared to your ideal setup. This is how I made the decision on what I wanted, because even though the Phenom II x6 1055T was rated about the same as the Core i7 930, the Core i7 930 utilizies Triple Channel memory, this actually helping improve frame rates if you're an enthusiast PC gamer like me.
I actually made a thread that's related to your question, you can check it out here: http://www.pebhmong.com/forum/index.php/topic,188688.0.html
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By overclocking my i7 930 from 2.8 Ghz to 3.6 Ghz I actually improved my frame rates on Performance Test 7.0's Complex 3D graphics test from 65 fps to 80 fps and from 44 fps to 50 fps on DirectX 10 testing. So I figure if I'm getting better frame rates by simply overclocking this already fast CPU, then just imagine how big a difference it'd be to go from a Core2 Duo 2.2 to a Core i7.
Check out Passmark.com for CPU benchmark comparisons. If you download their program you get to download other people's benchmarks so you can get an idea of how well they do compared to yours, or compared to your ideal setup. This is how I made the decision on what I wanted, because even though the Phenom II x6 1055T was rated about the same as the Core i7 930, the Core i7 930 utilizies Triple Channel memory, this actually helping improve frame rates if you're an enthusiast PC gamer like me.
I actually made a thread that's related to your question, you can check it out here: http://www.pebhmong.com/forum/index.php/topic,188688.0.html
You are talking about benchmarks only. Sure, you can see the difference on benchmarks, but can you tell a difference while surfing or doing whatever it is that you are doing on a day to day basis? I highly doubt that, unless you are doing a lot of video converting and compressing of files. There really are no games out there that will max your cpu out if you only have a 24" or smaller monitor. Also, I would rather save my money and buy a better video card than spend the money on an expensive cpu.
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You are talking about benchmarks only. Sure, you can see the difference on benchmarks, but can you tell a difference while surfing or doing whatever it is that you are doing on a day to day basis? I highly doubt that, unless you are doing a lot of video converting and compressing of files. There really are no games out there that will max your cpu out if you only have a 24" or smaller monitor. Also, I would rather save my money and buy a better video card than spend the money on an expensive cpu.
A benchmark means exactly just that, a benchmark. How well your computer does compared to others. You'll never know if yours is actually keeping up with others or doing poorly unless you actually know what the benchmarks are. That's why benchmark tests are important, and as far as I can see on the internet, Passmark.com has more than enough submissions to convince me on which parts are the best buy out there. Their benchmark program allows me to see what kind of frame rates my current CPU/Video Card gets compared to others. Now because I like PC games, this is important because I like to play the latest games at full graphic settings.
Tom's Hardware actually made of note of what you prefer to do by using a $75 CPU paired with different graphics card including the best then, Radeon HD 5870. They tested if getting a better CPU actually makes a difference in real world gaming experiences with Crysis, World in Conflict, and other graphic demanding PC games. They tested an AMD Athlon II x3 440 vs an Intel Core i7 920 using the exact same graphics cards. The conclusion was simple, the AMD does just fine if you don't play PC games that pump out some hardcore 3D graphics but if you plan on playing max settings in World in Conflict or Crysis then yes a nice CPU will make a difference. Their article proves that Passmark.com's benchmark program is actually accurate in telling how your system will do (at least here in terms of gaming).
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/athlon-ii-x3-440-gaming-performance,2619.html
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U are saying buy i5 and i3 right and dump the i7 because it's too expensive? That's the going trend for peeps who are building cost effective systems.
I'm saying buy anything within your budget. I only build AMD computers, but that's just me. You can build anything you want, as long as you have the money.
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U are saying buy i5 and i3 right and dump the i7 because it's too expensive? That's the going trend for peeps who are building cost effective systems.
The cheapest i3 is at $115, at that price the AMD Athlon II x4 630 actually performs better and for $20 less.
I definitely take pride in building both types of setups though. High end, and most cost effective.
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i'm running on my new set up at i5 750 2.66ghz as we speak (did not tweak it yet)
i'm not a gamer but do use it for cs5 and other graphic design programs.
did not notice much difference (if any at all) from my old set up - core 2 duo 3.xx