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General Category => General Discussion => Topic started by: hmgROCK on August 15, 2021, 11:05:13 PM
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Welps folks...
Looks like its done
The Taliban has clearly won
in my previous thread “joe biden don’t give an F anymore”
Still stand by those statements
GAME OVER!
In the up coming days
You going see mass executions and beheading
Maybe raping too
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I heard all these talking point about 2 trillion in 20 years
But dude
We printed like $3 trillion just last year
More to come
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Bunch of dude wearing flip flop
Riding moped, carry ak47
Defeated the might ole USA
#loseface
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THIS HAPPENED UNDER YOUR JOE BIDEN'S WATCH. YOU VOTED FOR IT.
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THIS HAPPENED UNDER YOUR JOE BIDEN'S WATCH. YOU VOTED FOR IT.
Lol
I thought you were on board???
After all, this was the withdraw deadline set by trump
Sure biden could have stop
But he didn’t
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America learns that an overseas war can't be won without knowing the local logistics.
The Talibans know their mountains and hills more than the newly-arrived American fighters.
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Sure
George w Bush started the war
Obama continue it
Trump try to end it
Joe Biden let it fall
It don’t matter which president
AFGHANISTAN fall under “your watch”
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Joe Biden don’t give an F
He still on vacation
Don’t brother him!!!
:D :D
I voted for this prick too
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Why did you "voted" for that "prick"...
Shouldn't you foresee this coming being the "hmong Nostradamus and is always right" and all?? ???
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Don't they learn anything from Vietnam?
Pulling soldiers out and let the country's army to deal with it. Seeing all them people running like rabid rabbits, trying to board planes and trying to get out of the country....Jus t like vietnam.
Cot dayam why did we study history for? So history do not repeat itself.
Then again, on the flip side to play the devil's advocate. Curry, are you curry? Why should you care? >:D
Didn't the chinese and the taliban had a meeting not too long ago? What was the deal? We will supply with gears to overthrown the government but here is my chinese boarder, don't cross our boarder with your curry self.
Lets see what Biden will have to say for it today. He is addressing the nation today on tv I believe.
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I think you guys need to read this to understand the play by play to what is going on from then till now. Long years apart, we may forgotten what we are fighting for.
A look back at Operation Enduring Freedom, the US mission in Afghanistan
The Taliban has swiftly regained control of Afghanistan 20 years after US forces began Operation Enduring Freedom (OEF).
The United States linked the September 11, 2001 terrorist attacks to al Qaeda, a group that operated under the Taliban regime’s protection in Afghanistan. The operation was launched to stop the Taliban from providing a safe haven to al Qaeda and to stop al Qaeda’s use of Afghanistan as a base of operations for terrorist activities.
Operation Enduring Freedom began on October 7, 2001, under President George W. Bush's administration, with allied air strikes on Taliban and al Qaeda targets.
On Oct. 14, 2001, the Taliban offered to discuss giving Osama bin Laden, then the lead of al Qaeda, to a third country for trial if the United States provided evidence of bin Laden’s involvement in the Sept. 11 attacks. The White House rejected the offer.
On Nov. 13, 2001, US airstrikes and ground attacks by the anti-Taliban Afghan Northern Alliance led to the fall of Kabul.
That same month many European countries offered troops to support OEF including, Germany, the Netherlands, France and Italy. US Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld also announced that the US doubled the number of its troops based in the country.
Over the next 20 years, the US along with allied nations and coalitions worked to create a stable Afghan led nation and also create and train an Afghan national army. Here's a timeline:
Dec. 2-5, 2001 - The United Nations hosts the Bonn Conference in Germany, results from the Bonn Agreement creates an Afghan Interim Authority and outlines a process for creating a new constitution and choosing a new government.
Dec. 20, 2001 - The United Nations authorized the International Security Assistance Force (ISAF) to provide security support to the Afghans. The United Kingdom agrees to lead the force initially.
Dec. 22, 2001 - Hamid Karzai is sworn in as head of an interim power-sharing government.
March 25, 2002 - Rumsfeld announces that there are plans under way for US and coalition forces to help train and create an Afghan national army.
January 2004 - Afghanistan passes a new constitution by consensus.
Oct. 9, 2004 - Afghanistan’s first direct democratic election is held.
Dec. 7, 2004 - Karzai is sworn in as the first democratically elected president of Afghanistan.
Dec. 1, 2009 - Obama announces the deployment of 30,000 additional US troops. This new deployment, set for 2010, brought US troop totals to almost 100,000, in addition to 40,000 NATO troops.
January 2010 - Representative s from more than 60 nations meet in London for the International Conference on Afghanistan, pledging to support the development of the Afghan National Security Forces.
May 2, 2011 - In the early morning hours, a small group of US Forces, including Navy Seals, raid a compound in Abbottabad, Pakistan and kill Osama bin Laden.
June 22, 2011 - Obama announces a plan to reduce the number of troops in Afghanistan and that US combat operations in the country will end by 2014.
Feb. 1, 2012 - Defense Secretary Leon Panetta announces that the US hopes to end its combat mission in Afghanistan in 2013, transitioning primarily to a training role.
May 27, 2014 - President Obama announces that the United States combat mission in Afghanistan will end in December 2014.
Sept. 30, 2014 - The US and Afghanistan sign a joint security agreement that will allow US troops to stay in Afghanistan beyond the previous December deadline to withdraw.
Jan. 1, 2015 - After more than 13 years of combat operations in Afghanistan, the US begins Operation Freedom’s Sentinel (OFS). The new mission conducts counterterrori sm operations targeting terrorist groups like al Qaeda and the local ISIS affiliate and also focuses on building up local Afghan security forces to help fight the Taliban.
Dec. 9, 2019 - Confidential documents obtained by The Washington Post reveal that top US officials misled the American public about the war in Afghanistan in order to conceal doubts about the likelihood that the United States could be successful in the nearly 20-year effort since its earliest days, the paper reports.
April 14, 2021 - US President Joe Biden formally announces his decision to withdraw US troops from Afghanistan before September 11, 2021, deeming the prolonged and intractable conflict in Afghanistan no longer aligns with American priorities. “It’s time to end America’s longest war,” he says.
August 2021 - The Taliban take control of Afghanistan's capital city, Kabul, almost two decades after they were driven out by US troops. President Biden sends an additional 5,000 troops to Kabul to evacuate US personnel.
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Who to blame? What to blame? Just work with what you know or the facts given. We all are to blame. Wildly enough, Americans are supporting biden to pull troops out by sept 11 2021. Biden has this to say about your boy Trump.
"In his statement, Biden lay part of the blame for the current situation on his predecessor, Donald Trump, who brokered a deal with the Taliban to withdraw American troops by May 1, 2021.
But the President went beyond merely criticizing the deal; he also accused Trump of leaving the Taliban in its “strongest position militarily” since 2001 and mentioned that Trump invited Taliban leaders to meet at Camp David in 2019"
https://www.cnn.com/2021/08/15/politics/biden-administration-taliban-kabul-afghanistan/index.html (https://www.cnn.com/2021/08/15/politics/biden-administration-taliban-kabul-afghanistan/index.html)
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Key issues and I might be wrong are these and to why I think it is similar to the Vietnam War.
Why as there troops in curry land in the first place? 9-11, to get osama bin laden and his curry azz.
They got their target so mission accomplished so why linger around for?
Don't the curry afghan nation has their own army? Didn't the USA gave them the tools to stand on their two feet against the Taliban?
Biden probably know that sooner or later, the country will be taken over by the Taliban. What the USA did not calculate is how fast it was done. So the USA is suppose to pull troops and the afghan military is to hold fort. This would give enough time for the USA to pull all their guys out. Biden is now blaming the weak afghan government for not holding the Taliban. In other words, You all got used by the USA government. All pawn pieces. Perhaps the deal or goal is to set up a Taliban government like Vietnam and let it ride.
Imagine having a business there. Taliban say to join them or we will prosecute you. You join them and you will be under a registry for when there is a time of war, your name will get drafted. Sounds like vietnam to me. Join commie north or die.
What about the women? They want Islamic state laws forced onto all nation. Nearby Nations are worried. Same chit with vietnam. The fear of communism spreading to nearby countries like an infected disease.
Parallel to the Fall of saigon but not really but similarities are there.
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Key issues and I might be wrong are these and to why I think it is similar to the Vietnam War.
Why as there troops in curry land in the first place? 9-11, to get osama bin laden and his curry azz.
They got their target so mission accomplished so why linger around for?
Don't the curry afghan nation has their own army? Didn't the USA gave them the tools to stand on their two feet against the Taliban?
Biden probably know that sooner or later, the country will be taken over by the Taliban. What the USA did not calculate is how fast it was done. So the USA is suppose to pull troops and the afghan military is to hold fort. This would give enough time for the USA to pull all their guys out. Biden is now blaming the weak afghan government for not holding the Taliban. In other words, You all got used by the USA government. All pawn pieces. Perhaps the deal or goal is to set up a Taliban government like Vietnam and let it ride.
Imagine having a business there. Taliban say to join them or we will prosecute you. You join them and you will be under a registry for when there is a time of war, your name will get drafted. Sounds like vietnam to me. Join commie north or die.
What about the women? They want Islamic state laws forced onto all nation. Nearby Nations are worried. Same chit with vietnam. The fear of communism spreading to nearby countries like an infected disease.
Parallel to the Fall of saigon but not really but similarities are there.
the woman will probably go back to covering up
no school
sold to marriage
moving backward... not forward with these kinda of mindset thinking
taking advice from a 1500 year old book
this is why the US founding father separate the CHURCH from STATES
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fall of saigon
fall of afghan
looks almost the same
unless im that blind
seeing is truly believing
(https://i.dawn.com/primary/2021/08/61195dcb1d530.jpg)
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Joe biden says the buck stop with him
Than he goes pointing finger at trump and the afghan army
C’MON NOW
Sheesh
Its “your watch”
Take ownership
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I guess it’s time to go
Even if the job is unfinished
I do that sometimes in real life