Txiv Xaiv: funeral songs

[slude]

Xyom Cuab Ua Tsaug 01.mp3

Slude,
 
Do you have this in written format?

sorry i don't. this is one of the formal ua tsaug verse, i think youknowthat may have written this in another thread.

[8v10un30sun]

I think when I retire, I'll study these...so much to learn so little time...such is the curse of life.

[thehotone]

I just out this past weekend that hais xi is not required if someone passes away and does not have a tub and nyab? What if his tub and nyab are divorce but no offsprings? Can they still hais xi?

[slude]

I just out this past weekend that hais xi is not required if someone passes away and does not have a tub and nyab? What if his tub and nyab are divorce but no offsprings? Can they still hais xi?

no offspring, no hais xi. even with 10 kids, it's up to the family.

[A_New_Beginning]

There has to have a rooj Xim aka rooj plaub rooj lus.  But all can be taken care of by the Kavxwm.  Xivxaiv is not required.

When my father passed away, we dont even have Xivxaiv, per his final wish. During his last few weeks, probably he knew he's going to go, he said, "Kuv tej lus nyiaj lus kub, tej koob tej hmoo ces twb muaj tab rau cov uas hlub kuv, nrog kuv nyob. Kev ua nom ua tswv ces leejtwg hlub kuv ces tau zoo, kev ua neej kuv twb qhia tag rau nej. Yog tias kuv tus mob tsis tso kuv tseg, es kuv tau mus lawm tsis thas hais tej lus uas tsis yog kuv lus."

[slude]

lots of truth in your dad's final wish. txivxais in one ear and out the other, there is no point in learning when alive you don't even show your appreciation/love.

[yaweh]

an advice for all:

it has been only 30 years since the migration from laos to america.  but the differences of the "old" txiv xaiv and the "new" ones in america is SO BIG!  in fact, many of the txiv xaiv "changed" their verses or kws songs...to the point of not making any more sense.

yaweh

[A_New_Beginning]

Since we dont have Txivxaiv. Txwjlaug, Muamphauj and a couple former Tojxeem, and former GVP's Commanders, Majors and Lieutenants, and the leaders of the various Hmong organizations in the States blessed us with their words of wisdom and pays their respect to my father. I think this is way better than listening to Xivxaiv.  I got collections of Xivxaiv from numerous Txiv Xaiv, that I listen to whenever I have leisure time.

[yuknowthat]

There has to have a rooj Xim aka rooj plaub rooj lus.  But all can be taken care of by the Kavxwm.  Xivxaiv is not required.

When my father passed away, we dont even have Xivxaiv, per his final wish. During his last few weeks, probably he knew he's going to go, he said, "Kuv tej lus nyiaj lus kub, tej koob tej hmoo ces twb muaj tab rau cov uas hlub kuv, nrog kuv nyob. Kev ua nom ua tswv ces leejtwg hlub kuv ces tau zoo, kev ua neej kuv twb qhia tag rau nej. Yog tias kuv tus mob tsis tso kuv tseg, es kuv tau mus lawm tsis thas hais tej lus uas tsis yog kuv lus."

true...tau khoob tau hmoov ces yog thaum ciaj tsis yog thaum tuag..

[zaubmos]

My husband is a student n tau mus hais ob peb zaug lawm its very sad

Kuv tsis understand but he'll tell me what they r saying and as we listen more i start to understand more

Yus yuav xyaum ces xyaum thaum hluas laus lawm mam xyaum nws nyuaj heev..yus tau cov lus xwb tsis tau lus suab nws tsis zoo thiab ...hais tsis zoo mloog..tus cov lus thiab lub suab lawm hais mas zoo mloog tshaj

I do encourage peb cov tub hluas to learn this ..yus xyaum tau thiab yus understand lawm yus mam paub hais tias txog kev hais txiv xaiv nws muaj nqis npaum cas and how meaningful the words r ..cov lus no tsuas tog lus paj lub kub lus zoo rau yus khaws coj mus ua neej xwb very 

[slude]

zaubmos,

first, sorry i haven't update this post for awhile. secondly, great that your husband is learning. we need more young-middle age people to learn. it's hard cause we're losing our language. thirdly, if you pay attention to the lyrics, the words are basic hmong tongue.

the links are no longer working but i will upload them to a permanent site for easy access. and i have more translations to add.

thanks to all for viewing/learning.

enjoy,

slude

[zaubmos]

Koj upload cov txiv xaiv li no es koj tus xib hwb tsis hais li cas lov? Kuv husband nws tus xib hwb tsis pub laiv

[slude]

tsis ua li cas, cause it's public knowledge and txiv xaiv is for the living not the dead. different reason for different xib hwb and i was taught to share knowledge not hide from others. i can't share or speak of the death verses but i can share 'educational' and 'inspirational' according to my own interpretation . txivi xaiv adapts to educate, not to compare.

[zaubmos]

tsis ua li cas, cause it's public knowledge and txiv xaiv is for the living not the dead. different reason for different xib hwb and i was taught to share knowledge not hide from others. i can't share or speak of the death verses but i can share 'educational' and 'inspirational' according to my own interpretation . txivi xaiv adapts to educate, not to compare.

Ahhhh!! Gotcha

[yuknowthat]

Koj upload cov txiv xaiv li no es koj tus xib hwb tsis hais li cas lov? Kuv husband nws tus xib hwb tsis pub laiv

tsis zoo hais tom vaj tom tsev xwb..thiab yog lus ntuas ua neej, i think your hubby tus xibfwb hais li ntawv because "if you want to hear you must pay first"..i think?