Hmong Green vs. Hmong White

[TheAfterLife]

Have they ever fought each other in a war during the ancient times of China or before China?

[Reporter]

No. There's no written or oral record of such thing.

I think the Hmong have been divided among ourselves, even within clans and families, because of our religious affiliations and even lack of open-mindedness in the past. But we have never fought ourselves in a revolutionary war or war for territories.

[jtenz0]

I've heard many of the elders say that, "All Hmong people were Green at one time"? Anyone got any other input on this?

[PebHmoobUnited]

There was ONLY one HMOOB xwb....the dialects never was an issue...it was those OUTSIDERS that seek to divide us that have succeeded in dividing not by linguistics differences, but by our own stupidity to support one another to defend our freedom/land and a self-governing people!

[night912]

There isn't a lot of hmong green if any left. People get green confused with hmong leng.

[Wi_sweetguy]

hmong white and green is like American north and southern dialect or American english and British english. Same people with two different dialect.

[night912]

hmong white and green is like American north and southern dialect or American english and British english. Same people with two different dialect.

Don't you mean hmong leng and hmong white.

[night912]

It's green in the way I was taught.

That is considered an insult for some hmong leng.

[hmoobconan]

Hey, blame the culture that is changing, not me...

That's a typical attribute that many White Hmongs tend to have. Ignorance.

Btw, what is the reason or the way how you were taught that turned Hmong Leng into Hmong Green?
Don't tell me it's because of what we wear. lol

[night912]

Hey, blame the culture that is changing, not me...

Doesn't matter on the changing of the culture, to that particular person it's still offensive. It's the same as a Laotian calls a Hmong from the US "meo". That means nothing to that person. But call a Hmong from Laos that and it's considered offensive to that person.

[night912]

No, we will change it into Hmong rather than Miao. The Miao shall be no more since we want some respect to which I agree with you; however, what does this have to do by just asking permission from China to let us name our OWN country, without any racial terms?

You lost me there with China and country.

[night912]

What I am saying is that the Chinese have no rights to force us to be Chinese, but I would rather have them called me, "Hmong" rather than Chinese or Miao. That's what I am saying. However, we must agree that we have to be in their united kingdom, or else all hell breaks loose. That's my point.

I think you're in the wrong thread.

[zina]

http://www.asiafinest.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=293504

Look at the DNA.... Green Hmong would be Yunan Hmong.   Interesting ...  It could be why Hmong Leng (Mong) are so sensitive on this subject.  Another thing... when you see Mong..  it means Hmong Leng.  It does not include White Hmong.

[Rani]

I don't believe they are such historical stories involving white and green Hmong....

[TubMTT]

Have they ever fought each other in a war during the ancient times of China or before China?

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Moob dlawb (Hmong White) yog dlaim tab ntaub maaj dlawb.  Cas le muab caws es naav xwb. Tsi muab rau nkaaj.  Naav dlaim dlawb paug...zoo le naaj nub nuav mej pum.  Cov laug txhajle hu ua Moob Dlawb.

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